Created By: Vegetto on July 26, 2010 Last Edited By: Vegetto on July 26, 2010
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Beneath The Mask

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She has the maners of a princess( picture above), But only when her parents are around (picture below)

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"Almost every man can face adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give them power."
-- Abraham Lincon

''...Everybody lies."

Have you ever wanted to say or do something, but couldn't, because you were concerned of what others might think of you, or the punishment you could get? This trope is about that.

It's often said that both anonymity and power will corrupt otherwise decent, good people. Beneath the Mask is when the anonymity or power didn't change a person; it simply revealed what was already there, a hidden self kept in check by fear of what others would think or do in response hidden to others , sometimes even hidden from ourselves

It may not be an "evil" aspect that's revealed; a bloodthirsty, ruthless villain doing something nice or good when he doesn't need to worry about others thinking him soft or weak for it would also fall into this trope.

When it's played for comedy rather than seriously, the person is usually caught in the act, most often by the one person or group they were most worried about finding out their secret.

Depending on what compels the character to remove their masks this trope can be clasified in three types.

Type A: Anonymity
  • The character is able to reveal their hidden side because some sort of anonymity means that they won't be linked to it.

Type B: Power
  • The character is able to express their hidden side because they have sufficient power (of any type) to protect themselves from any negative response.

Type C: Indiference
  • The character has already being caught or simply decides not to care anymore about the consequences.

Related to GIFT and What You Are in the Dark, Often used in conjunction with Jerk with a Heart of Gold, Jerkass Façade, Bitch in Sheep's Clothing.

Trope Codifier : MagicalProjectS

Disclaimer This trope is Not to be confused with Hidden Depths. That focuses more on hiddden skills (this trope being more psychology/personality oriented), What You Are in the Dark, which is a subtrope, A Darker Me, which is an specific case, Nor GIFT, which focuses on corruption, unlike this trope that focuses on reveals.

This trope is Truth in Television, acording to psychology.

Examples:

Please try not to add A Darker Me examples! Even though they are valid, other tropes cover them better, thanks!

Anime and Manga

Video Games
  • In Halo 3 the normally calm Lawful Good or Lawful Evil ( for the humans) prophet of truth showed his true colors as a mad alien willing to kill his fellow prophets and an entire race of aliens While trying to reach godhood. 
    • Both guilty spark and medicant bias hid their true intentions until their betrayals due to rampancy.
  • "Final Fantasy XIII" the cocoon Fal'cie showed their true intentions to the lu'cie. While they were hidden in their anonymity, they wanted to commit suicide and pretended being good to the people of the cocoon while showing their true intentions to the heroes
  • ModernWarfare: the general shepherd betrayed task force 141 killing them showing that he realy was a [1] as oposed to the  Lawful Good faces he had. Very hard for price and soap to bear, though not too hard to believe.

Literature
  • in "Twilight" Rosalie Cullen tough she acts cold to Bella at first , it is revealed that she actualy envys Bella and is sad on the inside because of her inability to get pregnant.   

Western Animation
  • In the The Last Airbender, Admiral Zao, though at first considered Lawful Evil, was revealed at the season finale to be completely insane, even killing the moon spirit.
    • Toph bei Fong tough she pretends to be a weak well manered girl infron of her parents , while not seen by them she is shown as a very powerful earthbender  and while she has perfect good maners ,but he chooses to ignore the When she is with her friends, this is played for the laughs 
    • Princess Azula, though she pretended being a secure, strong, cold woman, it was revealed at the last episode that she was a lonely woman that wanted someone to trust, but lost her friends and didn't have anyone to confide in, and was crazy and sad because she wanted her mother's approval. It wasn't a coincidence that when she became more powerful thanks to being almost the new firelord plus getting a power upgrade thanks to sizing comet, that much political power plus the loneliness was too much for her, and showed how she truly was on the insideshe felt unloved(by his mom or anyone for that matter),Crazy , and emotionally unstable
  • Helga, a type 1  from Hey Arnold!, expressed her true feelings for Arnold when alone.
  • in "Justice League Unlimited"  the flash a type 1 is apparently a goofy ,dumb and "incompetent"  character but it is revealed in an episode that he only pretends to be silly to get close to the people and as Orion put it :  
    • ->''Orion: [to the Flash] "I understand now. You play the clown to hide a warrior's pain."
  • Trixie Tang from TheFairlyOddParents a type 1  is secretly a tomboy that likes boy stuff like comc books and secretly disguises herself as a boy because she has fear of being judged and rejected due to the fact that she is a popular girl and "The Libby" of her school. 

Film
  • The Mask this is the basic premise of the titular mask of the  movie.  putting the mask unmasks your hidden self, plus giving superpowers at the same time.
  • In "Pirates of the Caribbean" Tia Dalma initially acts as a NeutralGood , helping the characters and even showing care for Jack Sparrow but in the third movie it is revealed that she is actually Calypso a sea goddess and when she regains her full powers back she is revealed to be a TrueNeutral ,ChaoticNeutral character not really caring about any of the   factions

Live Action Tv

   Real Life
  • The Roschach test (not to be confused with the other Roschach is a test uses to see the hidden aspects of the personality throught the use of  ink spots , this way people reveal things about themselves that they wouldnt reveal otherwise due to liying or fear of  embarasment more information click here.
  • Internet people in general in the bad extreme  they take out their frustrations on people that won't recognize them , however in the good extreme people are able to share their honest opinions about controversial subjects without fearing of  being judged bad. 
  • Ever wanted to eat a cake with your hands? Or a soup without a spoon?
  • Bullies almost never attack people that can face them either socialy or physicaly. Infront of their teacher and their parents they act diferently.  

Comics
  • The sentry , tough he pretends to be a LawfulGood hero his dark side actually manifests against his will due throughout the void , the void is basically his dark side before taking the professor's formula his powers only made the void manifest what was already there. That much power made the sentry unable to keep  in check his darkside
  • Jean Grey of the "Xmen" her phoenix persona was retconed to be actually her an not a separate entity her dark Phoenix persons is radicaly  different from  her normal self restrained self 
 *Black Adam of "Captain Marvel" was chooses for being good a champion of justice but when he received superpowers while not nesesarily evil , he was revealed not to be a LawfulGood as he was espected  to be like Captain Marvel
Community Feedback Replies: 50
  • July 23, 2010
    mandrke
    What did Fast Eddie say was the problem?
  • July 23, 2010
    AlirozTheConfused
    I see nothing wrong with this, but "Shadow Persona" might not be the best title. Yeah, Fast Eddie has deleted several of my best things. Tropes, Ykktws, edits, pictures. Don't feel offended. He's just a deleting meanie.
  • July 23, 2010
    Vegetto
    Thanks for the words of advice guys well from the bright side I have more time to polish and to choose a new name in the meantime

    ironicaly I could put him on this very trope example lol I tough that was just me :)

    Still if anyone santos to propose a bEtter name feel free to do it :)
  • July 23, 2010
    Lysythe
    This definitely needs a cleanup in terms of grammar.
  • July 23, 2010
    Vegetto
    @ mandarke nothing he jus deleted 90% article and when I told him he deleted the soul of the article and fixed it he got mad.... Basicaly , and uronicaly he is the best example of this trope :)
  • July 23, 2010
    FastEddie
    There isn't anything good in it. The spelling is atrocious. The thesis is murky. The entire 'power' thread is unsupported and unnecessary. It is essentially a duplicate of A Darker Me. The picture is Just A Face And A Caption.
  • July 23, 2010
    Vegetto
    Ok I will replace the picture , there is better one that expresed the point. And as stated in the article this article ISNOT about a hidden evil or a Darker Me it's about what we don't dare to do infron of others like our secret crushes
  • July 23, 2010
    AlirozTheConfused
    I could fix the grammar.
  • July 23, 2010
    arromdee
    http://www.newsarama.com/comics/doctor-solar-man-of-the-atom-shooter-100625.html

    Jim Shooter's interview about Solar Man Of The Atom where he mentions this as part of how he's writing Solar. I'm not sure if this would count since while he is saying this, he's saying it as part of "power magnifies", which is not itself this.

    I find the statement "Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" to be nonsense. Power doesn't corrupt, it magnifies--if you're a noble person, acquiring power means you can do more good. Mother Theresa or Albert Schweitzer given great power would worry me not at all.

    However, jerks, including jerks who are well-behaved because they're powerless, become mega-jerks or monsters given power--and that sometimes makes for a good story, so the old saw hangs around.
  • July 23, 2010
    KiTA
    I believe the trope itself -- "Anonymity brings out hidden things in people" -- has merit, but the name itself needs work, and you really do need to learn how to use wiki links. Also, typing stuff into a word processor and letting spell check et all would definitely help the cause; I spent a good half hour re-editing the page yesterday for grammar and flow. (The version above is the one from before the edits.)

    But no, the thing that made me realize it was going to get cut yesterday was seeing it had been added to 9 different indexes and a dozen different tropes, all in the same "breathless" style of text editing. A bit too fast for a one man band, methinks.

    Anyway, getting off on a tangent. Back to the point at hand: I do believe the main thesis -- "People tend to reveal things about themselves when anonymous" has merit as a trope (although it may be covered under A Darker Me, although who says the revealed things have to be "dark")... but not all your cited examples fit that. Some are covered under GIFT, some are covered under various "superpowers cause insanity" tropes, etc.

    I believe a rather good example from the article is the one from The Fairly Odd Parents, wherein The Libby felt safe expressing an interest in comic books when anonymously hiding as a boy. I have seen that before in other works, usually of the "I can't believe the jock is secretly a fan of needlepoint" or "Holy cow, the head cheerleader is a level 18 barbarian" variety. There is also a subconscious version, where anonymity / amnesia / etc causes a person to act different -- "I forgot to be a jerk" or somesuch.

    Ultimately this is a trope that is very, very similar to half a dozen others, but appears to be different enough that it might be a valid trope / supertrope of it's own. I remain convinced there's something of merit there, but we need a tighter thesis, and definitely needs a better name. "Revealing Anonymity?"

    As an aside: The name keeps making me think of the dark persona from Persona 4, as well. I am not sure they count as examples of this trope, however, but again, they're very close.
  • July 23, 2010
    Stratadrake
    IU was going to mention the forum topic, but apparently you saw it already.
  • July 23, 2010
    KiTA
    Thought: There was the Internet idol from Negima, who acted vastly different online (where she was a cosplaying camwhore exhibitionist type) when in comparison to real life (where she was a shy Only Sane Man, I believe) -- does Negima have her listed as any tropes?

    Edit: Chisame is the name, and nope. But I am not sure how relevant that is to her character, I haven't read Negima in years.
  • July 23, 2010
    Vegetto
    @Kits thanks for the feedback The picture will be replaced with a better name promise , as this isn't a "hidden evil" trope as for the central tesis you guys are right it isn't very clear and can be easily confused to other tropes , I will redo ot to make it moré clear Plus the hunt for a betterr name remains :) As for the examples I will look unto moré variedad ones

    thanks a slot will make z new version later this day fixing the problem
  • July 23, 2010
    AlirozTheConfused
    I fixed it.
  • July 23, 2010
    Ryusui
    It's not just anonymity the trope is talking about, it's power - though frankly, both have the end result of stripping away inhibitions because the normal repercussions no longer apply.

    ...Unchained Monster? The Monster Unchained?
  • July 23, 2010
    AlirozTheConfused
    Ooh, I like your suggestions.
  • July 23, 2010
    Vegetto
    Ryuki is right is not just anonymity here and I like those names too :)
  • July 23, 2010
    KiTA
    This trope already has a different YKTTW entry with a significant number of replies, but it appears to have been locked: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=a3gxt7xpqxjolkg7rhdv11hq

    In there, I rather like Two Sides Of The Same Coin and if I may suggest a different one, What You Are In The Dark -> What You Are In The Ethernet (or some suitably witty variant thereof).
  • July 23, 2010
    callsignecho
    A lot of the examples don't fit under the description in the article, because they lack any sort of anonymous persona, nor did they Take A Level In Badass. Voldemort, Admiral Zao, Michael Corleone, actually the majority of the examples are either Heel Face Turn or Power Corrupts. It looks like there are two tropes here (that we already have) that the creator is trying to smash together.
  • July 23, 2010
    Vegetto
    Nope that's not the case , the problem is that the central tesis is explained wrong , i am worling on it tough sorry about that Ne XT versión will be more clear.
  • July 23, 2010
    Tnelson711
    Jekyll and Hyde are pretty good examples of this trope.
  • July 23, 2010
    Ryusui
    Two Sides Of The Same Coin? That's brilliant!
  • July 24, 2010
    STUART
    Anonymity bringing out a whole new side of people just sounds like the Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory.
  • July 24, 2010
    Vegetto
    nope Gift is about corruption of one self this trope is about revelation of one self read the articlle paragraph 2 please I mentionet it...
  • July 24, 2010
    Vegetto
    This article doesn't claim that qnonimty brings a new side , it claims that it was always there
  • July 24, 2010
    Fool
    No offense, Vegetto, but I also think that this was cut because your grammar is awful. This trope needs a proofreader badly.
  • July 24, 2010
    Vegetto
    I see , will fix the grammar
  • July 24, 2010
    Raidouthe21st
    Reworked most of the opening thesis for you to account for correct grammar and links. Wow, was that a piece of work. Nobody say I never did nothing nice for you guys. I'll do more later if I feel like it.

    And fix that Pixie Misa part and place it in the examples area. This is nowhere near the first time it's ever occurred in fiction, nor is it the definitive example of this.

    P.S. Truth In Television? Really?
  • July 24, 2010
    Vegetto
    Thanks a lot man I was gonna do this my self.

    About this being truth in television, I must tell you it is, basicaly is based on psychology , the facts that we would act diferent without society norms Is undeniable

    Btw thanks again
  • July 24, 2010
    Raidouthe21st
    No prob. Think I read somewhere English wasn't your first language, so thought I'd help.

    As far as Truth In Television goes, if you're saying it's a fact only to that extent than I can definitely agree. Just promise me this won't include IRL examples, okay? Most potential examples of this are covered elsewhere in more specific tropes, and might come of as TakeThats if placed here.
  • July 24, 2010
    Vegetto
    Yeah English isn't my first language :)

    yeah I think you are right this can be tryth only to an extent because of [[Flanderization the media tends to exagerate lol]].

    And yeah I think you are right I will remove those I Rl examples as you asked :) .. Unless I can think of one that is not as controversial like eating soup with your hands :)
  • July 24, 2010
    DragonQuestZ
    How about The True Self, since a lot of the examples are that.
  • July 24, 2010
    Madrugada

    Taking a stab at cleaning up the description:

    It's often said that both anonymity and power will corrupt otherwise decent, good people. Two Sides Of The Same Coin is when the anonymity or power didn't change a person; it simply revealed what was already there, kept in check by fear of what others would think or do in response.

    It may not be an "evil" aspect that's revealed; a bloodthirsty, ruthless villain doing something nice or good when he doesn't need to worry about others thinking him soft or weak for it would also fall into this trope.

    When it's played for comedy rather than seriously, the person is usually caught in the act, most often by the one person or group they were most worried about finding out their secret.

    Type 1: Anonymity The character is able to reveal their hidden side because some sort of anonymity means that they won't be linked to it.

    Type 2: Power The character is able to express their hidden side because they have sufficient power (of any type) to protect themselves from any negative response.

    Related to GIFT and What You Are In The Dark, Often used in conjunction with Jerk With A Heart Of Gold, Jerkass Facade, Bitch In Sheeps Clothing.

    I'm not even going to touch the examples. Most of them seem to be "This character isn't one-dimensional -- they're complicated."
  • July 24, 2010
    Gamesbot
    If I could put in for a new title (if you're still looking for one), how about "Behind the Mask"? It sticks with the whole social mask concept and doesn't lean towards the true self being necessarilly good nor evil.
  • July 24, 2010
    AlirozTheConfused
    I think that Behind The Mask is the best title yet proposed.
  • July 25, 2010
    Vegetto
    Yeah I am stil loking for a name :/ behind the mask looks cool but it spears it's already used , will try to use it anyways :)
  • July 25, 2010
    Fool
    Behind The Mask is the name of a movie, not a trope. I think you can get away with it.
  • July 25, 2010
    Fool
    I think you should get rid of the whole video thing, since it feels out of place and looks awkward... Anyway, once we clean up the examples, I think this will be ready for launch.

    Also, what happened to the Abraham Lincoln quote? I think that fit the trope very well...
  • July 25, 2010
    Bisected8
    I'm against using work names as trope titles. It always leads to a mess where half the links to the trope were trying to link to the namesake.
  • July 25, 2010
    Fool
    Two Sides Of The Same Coin it is, then.
  • July 25, 2010
    Gamesbot
    Could go with "The Person Behind the Mask" or "The Man Behind the Mask" if you want to keep that title.
  • July 25, 2010
    Fool
    I think this can be launched once someone cleans up the descriptions and replaces the first quote with the Abraham Lincoln quote. (I don't think that the current quote really fits the trope)
  • July 25, 2010
    Vegetto
    This trope is now up for grabs :) Thanks fool for the advice I am just cleaning the description
  • July 25, 2010
    dragonfire8181
    The first problem I see: how is this distinct from Hidden Depths?
  • July 25, 2010
    Vegetto
    @Dragon fire Hidden dephs is about hidden skills , this is about social masks , this trope is more psychologicaly oriented
  • July 26, 2010
    Prime32
    The first picture isn't a good example, since Toph wears those clothes as a rebel. Around her parents she wears fancy dresses.

    Maybe the first pic could be shy!dress!Toph, and the second could be smirking!Toph.
  • July 26, 2010
    Fool
    I agree, the current pictures don't fit very well.

    And agh, I meant to say "examples", not "descriptions". I must not have been thinking straight, sorry.

    But yes, this seems almost ready for launch.
  • July 26, 2010
    Vegetto
    I will replace the puctyre above sure ...After this gets launched :)

    Thats what wiki magic is for!!
  • July 26, 2010
    masterchief
    Someone launch this article already I am tired of seeing it here...
  • July 26, 2010
    Specialist290
    Eh, I'll do it. Launching in three...
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