Created By: FallenLegendAugust 11, 2011 Last Edited By: FallenLegendJune 23, 2012

Construction

Proving that something Lame/boring/bad/cliche can be amazing.

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"Girliness doesn't make a show bad, bad writing does"

While some fantasy concepts are very popular and have a great deal of acceptance because they are considered as being very desirable. That is until they lose their credibility by being deconstructed. For example being a princess/Badass.

Some Fantasy tropes are considered as bad, lame, boring or average at best. Not because they were Deconstructed But because even when played straight,cliche they are shown as being uninteresting or undesirable.Some of them even being ClicheStorms for not being used at their full potential.

This tropes have a low social acceptance even without even before any form of deconstruction. Their appeal (if any) tends to be limited to a very small or limited demographic.

  • For instance while a girl wanting to be a princess is a very , being the maid of said princess however is not.

In other words the concept "self- destructed" by having a low social acceptance despite the fact it is always played straight.

This trope happens when an author sees potential on a concept that very few people saw before and wants to prove that this "lame" concept can actually be awesome if done correctly. Taking the example mentioned before.The maid could be secretly an Action Girl and a bodyguard that has much more adventures and fun than the princess she is protecting.

While trying to recreate this concept/trope an author has a lot to prove and nothing to lose regarding the tropes they want to play with. Some of them have either a creative or personal motivation regarding the tropes. For example a woman trying to prove that female characters can be as interesting as male characters.


Examples:

Manga and Anime
  • Lyrical Nanoha proved that the Magical girl genre could have a great appeal between males fans, and not just becuase of Fanservice

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  • CSI and its family of spin-offs and Follow The Leaders? Crime scene investigators used to be the nerds in action movies who only got to talk so they could give the hero a clue. CSI roles around and proves that people welcome the change from Good Cop hunts Bad Guy to the more thriller-oriented sub-genre.

Videogames
  • The Atelier Series. The main characters are alchemists and store-owners who make items to sell in shops. Yeah, the item vendors every adventurer finds in every shop in every town in every RPG ever made get their own game. By showing the incredible lengths the characters go to get ingredients and the complex formulas they must study, experiment and perfect to create said items, they show that the lowly item vendor is probably an adventurer light years beyond the supposed RPG protagonists in intelligence and daring.
  • Swords and potions runs a similar gambit by allowing the player to set up shop and sell wares to adventurers.
Western Animation
  • My little pony franchise is infamous for being the posterchild of Tastes Like Diabetes, along with other girly shows. However Lauren Faust put herself as a goal to demonstrate that "girly doesn't equal lame". By retooling and using clever writing she has improved the perception of tropes associated with girly shows with My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic proving that a girly show can be amazing and even enjoyed by grown up men, with much success.

Community Feedback Replies: 27
  • August 12, 2011
    MorganWick
    This is basically Reconstruction without being deconstructed first, or ever being cool in the first place.

    In any case, it needs a rename, bad. The current name makes me think of making something in-universe more awesome (I think Homestuck uses it literally).
  • August 12, 2011
    hevendor717
    Wasn't this already around? Have you brought it back from the dead, without even more examples?
  • August 12, 2011
    FallenLegend
    nope I redid it completely. Past one sucked I admitt. I feel this is actually tropeable
  • August 12, 2011
    CommanderPanda
    Sort of like Heart Is An Awesome Power Reconstruction. Maybe Ponies Reboot is the name you're looking for. YMMV on this, but Clash Of The Titans was also remade and considered by most a slight improvement. I'm not sure if it applies though.

  • August 18, 2011
    TBeholder
    By the description, very close to Tropes Are Not Bad. By the title... is it about bulimia?
  • August 25, 2011
    LogicallyDashing
    Title suggestion: Uplifted Trope
  • August 25, 2011
    CommanderPanda
    Wow. New title. It fits. It kinda makes me think Bob The Builder, but maybe after some establishment as the antithesis of Deconstruction this can come out on its own.

  • August 25, 2011
    FallenLegend
    thanks But I think that uplifted trop could work as well. What do you think?
  • August 25, 2011
    CommanderPanda
    Hm.Priorities should be getting more examples, and then check what name is most reflected in what comes up.
  • August 25, 2011
    DannyVElAcme
    I LIKE this trope, and from the way it's written, I'd think there are more examples waiting to be thought up. Here's one to contribute:

    • The Atelier Series. The main characters are alchemists and store-owners who make items to sell in shops. Yeah, the item vendors every adventurer finds in every shop in every town in every RPG ever made get their own game. By showing the incredible lengths the characters go to get ingredients and the complex formulas they must study, experiment and perfect to create said items, they show that the lowly item vendor is probably an adventurer light years beyond the supposed RPG protagonists in intelligence and daring.
  • August 25, 2011
    CommanderPanda
    ^

    • Swords And Potions runs a similar gambit by allowing the player to set up shop and sell wares to adventurers.
  • August 25, 2011
    CommanderPanda
    I wonder if Puella Magi Madoka Magica would count. On the one hand, it's the Magical Girl series Deconstruction. On the other hand, previous Magical Girl series cater to a shoujo audience, while Puella had remarkable, innovative, nuanced and immersive plot. :S
  • August 25, 2011
    DannyVElAcme
    ^Wasn't the Lyrical Nanoha series already this before PMMM ?
  • August 25, 2011
    CommanderPanda
    It could well be, I'll confess to not having seen it. If it is, throwing it on the board would work, and by virtue of the genre already having been re-Constructed, Puella Magi Madoka Magica would be disqualified before trying to solve the question of whether it can be constructive and deconstructive at the same time.
  • August 26, 2011
    MinotaurWarrior
    Might a lot of Genre Makers fit this trope as well? Might this be a supertrope to that?
  • August 26, 2011
    FallenLegend
    thanks for the help guys! and yeah genre makers and supertropes may fit
  • August 26, 2011
    CommanderPanda
    I was going to bring up Venture Bros but I guess that's Deconstruction. Uhh, I'm stretching it here, but maybe CSI and its family of spin-offs and Follow The Leaders? Crime scene investigators used to be the nerds in action movies who only got to talk so they could give the hero a clue. CSI roles around and proves that people welcome the change from Good Cop hunts Bad Guy to the more thriller-oriented sub-genre.

  • August 27, 2011
    FallenLegend
    sorry I have never seen the venture bros so I couldn't tell
  • August 27, 2011
    CommanderPanda
    Trust me, it's Deconstruction of the boy-adventurer genre. Lol. It couldn't count here.
  • August 27, 2011
    FallenLegend
    ok then I trust you :)
  • August 27, 2011
    peccantis
    If it's a mess to begin with, you don't need to break it more to recontruct it. I say this fits perfectly well within the realm of Recuntructed Trope.
  • August 27, 2011
    FallenLegend
    Nope reconstruction by definition needs a Deconstruction before it.
  • August 27, 2011
    Sackett
    No it doesn't

    It is not at all unusual for a work to simultaneously deconstruct and then reconstruct a trope.

    This is just a mishmash of Reconstruction, Trope Maker, and Tropes Are Not Bad

    Already covered. No value is added.

    All examples fit better and are explained better by being labeled under the different pre-existing tropes:

    Lyrical Nanoha is Mix And Match (subtrope of Trope Maker)

    CSI isn't even really an example as those types of shows have existed for ages as detective oriented thrillers as opposed to Good Cop Hunts Bad Guy: Murder She Wrote, Sherlock Holmes? At most CSI is a Trope Codifier of a very specific subgenre => Mix And Match

    Atelier Series is a Deconstruction with a Reconstruction explaining where those adventuring shops get all their fancy goodies.

    My Little Ponies is a case of Tropes Are Not Bad

    There just isn't anymore room for another trope here.

  • August 27, 2011
    FallenLegend
    Nope this is about the social acceptance of the trope. Not tropes that were proven unfit or undesirable by Deconstruction

    I want to convey an Authors's quest to prove themselves towards (and evem changing )social expectations. Towards a trope.

    For example My Little pony. Lauren Faust didn't reconstruct anything because by definition reconstruct implies that something was deconstructed first.MLP was never deconstructed simply authors didn't care for portraying well girly tropes in the first place. Further more the idea that of girls shows in society was bad

    She tried to change social expectations of the trope. Those weren't caused by a deconstruction but by a social perception that girl's shows were lame

  • August 27, 2011
    FallenLegend
    Deconstruction =====> your fantasies aren't as cool aren't they? Reconstruction====> sure it sucked but this aint so bad! from this new angle

    Construction====> remember that trash? Nobody even cared to deconstruct? Turna Out you can make cool stuff with recicled trash!

    A construction doesn't even need to be the first, some tropes even get forgotten or dismissed. Example starwars space epic before it? Sure.dace operas with that impact an appeal before... nope

    In fact the most successful space fantasy movie before was planet if the apes, not much was expected from space epics. Hence the reason Lucas had trouble financing the project.
  • June 23, 2012
    Noah1
  • June 23, 2012
    animeg3282
    Needs to be on the Sugar Wiki.

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