Created By: MCE on July 3, 2011 Last Edited By: MCE on July 16, 2011

Beating the insanity out of them

People who regain their sanity after a battle

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The evil boss is defeated, his insane plans are over, you just have to land the killing blow. But wait! He's talking normally, somehow the punches have restored his sanity, if only for a moment. He will then tell the heroes how to defeat him, take his own life or give them time to run.

other possible titles: beating some sense into them, trauma induced sanity

Do you think this should be a separate trope or incorporated in Beat the Curse Out of Him ? Let me know!

Examples:

  • A boss in Heretic 2 reveal that she was driven insane by the effects of the magical plague, but offers to help after fighting the hero, teleporting him closer to the final boss. The final boss can only be defeated by completing a ritual which restores his sanity.
  • Mass Effect: An asari matron breaks free of indoctrination by the reaper sovereign after being attacked.
  • American McGee's Alice does this. Literally. Also some of the Psychopaths in Dead Rising will briefly come back to their senses after defeat.
  • Happens to Allenby in Mobile Fighter G Gundam... more than once, I think. The 'berserker system' built into her Humongous Mecha drives her insane, but makes her devastating in combat, and on more than one occasion, Domon is forced to beat her back into sanity. (Also happens in Super Robot Wars J, and probably any other SRW-title where Allenby is included.)
  • In "Dissidia: Final Fantasy", Cloud does just that to Terra.
  • Mega Man X 2 has a sub-mission where you need to locate and defeat the 3 X-Hunters to obtain all of Zero's parts. If you fail to get all 3 you have to fight Zero before facing Sigma. Once defeated Zero regains his sanity.

Community Feedback Replies: 21
  • July 3, 2011
    AMNK
    • Gunnerkrigg Court, Chapter 33, "Give and Take". When one of the Court's first robots is re-awakened, it begins to mess up with Kat's laboratory, in addition to doing a hole in the wall to go outside. It takes Robot's efforts to put him in it's place, after which he calms down.
  • July 3, 2011
    fluffything
  • July 3, 2011
    Stratadrake
  • July 4, 2011
    NetMonster
    Do we have a trope for when they slap someone who's hysterical and the person calms down? It should be linked if we do.
  • July 4, 2011
    Unknown Troper
    ^ that would be Get A Hold Of Yourself Man. Perhaps Beat The Curse Out Of Him can be expanded to fit these examples, maybe this trope is actually about a temporary return to sanity. We'll see.
  • July 4, 2011
    Bisected8
    Also in Soul Eater, Kidd previously did the same to Black Star (beating some sense into him unarmed, which inspired him to go off to train with Tsubaki for a while).
  • July 4, 2011
    Ryuuma
    American Mc Gees Alice does this. Literally. Also some of the Psychopaths in Dead Rising will briefly come back to their senses after defeat.
  • July 4, 2011
    Aielyn
    It does seem like it would fit nicely within Beat The Curse Out Of Him... unless you adjust the trope to cover a specific case - the case where the "sanity" is temporary. In that case, I'd suggest adding reference to insanity in the Beat The Curse Out Of Him page, and then making this a trope about that special case (since the curse/insanity/possession wasn't actually beaten out, just momentarily subdued). Perhaps it can also serve as a supertrope for Dying As Yourself, {{"I Know You're In There Somewhere" Fight}}, etc.

    And if you do make this trope into that specific case, I'd recommend something like Mometary Lucidity (OK, probably a bit too obscure, but it gets the gist across).
  • July 5, 2011
    MCE
    ^ Agreed. Temporary sanity reinstatement due to physical assault. Still need a decent tile though.
  • July 5, 2011
    Pyroninja42
    Title suggestion: "Here, let me jog your sanity."
  • July 5, 2011
    AlexSora89
    In "Dissidia Final Fantasy", Cloud does just that to Terra.
  • July 5, 2011
    Darthcaliber
    Mega Man X 2 has a sub-mission where you need to locate and defeat the 3 X-Hunters to obtain all of Zero's parts. If you fail to get all 3 you have to fight Zero before facing Sigma. Once defeated Zero regains his sanity.

  • July 5, 2011
    Aielyn
    Does it actually have to be beaten out? Is there a trope for temporary sanity? If not, I'd suggest calling the trope either Momentary Lucidity or Pleading Temporary Sanity, and letting it cover all cases where someone is given just one moment of clarity from their curse/insanity/etc, whether by being beaten up or by another method.

    If it's generalised in this manner, I've got an example from Literature.

    • In the prologue of the first book of The Wheel Of Time, we see the insane Lews Therin Telamon, who is then approached by the evil Ishamael. Ishamael uses his ability to channel the Dark One's power to momentarily heal Lews Therin's insanity; when he realises what he had done in his insane rampage, he commits suicide in a spectacular fashion, in effect setting in motion three millennia of events that would culminate in the events described by the series.
  • July 6, 2011
    MCE
    ^ yes It needs to be beaten out, the trope is about the bizarre idea the physical violence can provide a temporary cure for insanity.
  • July 6, 2011
    Aielyn
    But it's not at all bizarre, the idea that pain can momentarily give someone clarity. It's no cure, but it can give a short, temporary respite in some cases. In most cases, though, even while momentarily sane, a person wouldn't appreciate the pain.
  • July 16, 2011
    MCE
    BUMP
  • July 16, 2011
    EmbracingShadows
    Isn't this Warrior Therapist?
  • July 16, 2011
    Aielyn
    No, Warrior Therapist is similar, but involves a warrior who also seems to be able to psychologically evaluate you, rather than using a warrior's approach to cure insanity.

    Think of it this way. Suppose you have an insane person and another person in the same room. In Warrior Therapist, the other person would be attacked by the insane person, and while defending themselves, would be able to figure out why that person is insane, etc. In this trope, the other person would attack the insane person, causing them to become sane temporarily for no other reason than that they were beaten up.

    I still think it should cover any case where temporary sanity is achieved due to the actions (not words) of another person, though.
  • July 16, 2011
    jatay3
    Worf challenged Martok to a duel at the climax of Deep Space Nine Soldiers of the Empire . This was to restore his sense of Klingon honor when he was in a state of shock after his confinement in a Jem'hader prison. Worf was deliberately encouraging bloodlust to shake the fear out of Martok.
  • July 16, 2011
    BlackDragon
    Happens to Allenby in Mobile Fighter G Gundam... more than once, I think. The 'berserker system' built into her Humongous Mecha drives her insane, but makes her devastating in combat, and on more than one occasion, Domon is forced to beat her back into sanity. (Also happens in Super Robot Wars J, and probably any other SRW-title where Allenby is included.)
  • July 16, 2011
    Earnest
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