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1	[[WMG: Debbie and Danny are the children of [[Music/FrankSinatra the original Danny Ocean]] in the [[Film/Oceans11 1960 film]].]]
2	If we assume the characters are the same ages as their actors, both Bullock and Clooney were born after the original film, meaning that Debbie and Danny would have been born when Danny Snr. was in his late 40s. They could have grown up hearing how the original heist succeeded and then went wrong, leading to them deciding to pull of their own capers.
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4	[[WMG: Danny isn't really dead; he's just faking his death as a part of an elaborate con]]
5	Debbie doesn't seem too bereaved by her brother's passing even flippantly drinking a martini, suggesting she knows something.
6	* Her knowing something is {{jossed}}, as she says "it'd better be you in there" during her first visit to his grave. This would imply one of two things -- either:
7	** It's not the first time he's done something like this, or:
8	** She ''really doesn't know if he's dead or not''. The ambiguity lends credence to the possibility that he has indeed faked his own is death, for reasons unexplored in this movie as the focus is on Debbie, not him. Which leads onto...
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10	[[WMG: Danny faked his death to avoid being killed by Terry Benedict and/or Willy Bank.]]
11	Both of whom would want revenge for his actions against them.
12	* Given that ''Twelve'' was all about raising the money to pay Benedict back following ''Eleven'', he wouldn't have much reasons to kill Danny unless ''he'd pulled yet another heist against him''. Bank, on the other hand, was shown to be almost ready to throw Reuben from the top of a building in ''Thirteen'', so he could be out for Danny's blood.
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14	[[WMG: The real target of the con is whoever's responsible for Danny's death]]
15	Debbie can't kill them, but she can certainly humiliate and ruin them like how Danny did to Bank at the end of ''Thirteen''. Plus the trailers make it clear that Debbie is running a con within the con from the start.
16	* {{Jossed}}: Debbie's seeking revenge on an ex-lover who framed and sent her to prison.
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18	[[WMG: Dakota Fanning is AdamWesting.]]
19	She will likely play a similar role like Topher Grace and the other celebrities that Rusty played poker with. Same with Katie Holmes.
20	* {{Jossed}}: Turns out she only has a very quick cameo and barely talks.
21	** Though her character does seem similar to her sister Elle, a young rising star, who we also see in a cosmetic ad, which Elle has done plenty of, but something Dakota doesnt do.
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23	[[WMG: Ocean's Nine will be about Debbie plotting to avenge Danny.]]
24	She'll learn that her brother was killed by Terry Benedict or Willy Bank and will plot a revenge. There are at least two twist possibilities:
25	* One villain was the real killer and framed the other. Debbie had already figured it out.
26	* Both Terry and Willy teamed up against Danny because of what he did to them in ''Thirteen''.
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28	[[WMG: Claude will be acquitted.]]
29	His lawyer will point out that he was set up by Debbie. Once he's free, he'll threaten to kill her unless she steals a lot of money for him. Just to make ''Ocean's Nine'' similar to ''Ocean's Twelve''.
30	* The acquittal is possible, but not the rest. Terry was a multimillionaire with massive connections. Claude is a two-bit art dealer who owns a single gallery. He wouldn't have the resources or contacts to match Debbie's.
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32	[[WMG: If there's an ''Ocean's 9'', the ninth member will be...]]
33	* Nineball's little sister Veronica.
34	* Tess Ocean, trying to either avenge Danny or help him keep his cover.
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36	[[WMG: If there's an ''Ocean's 9'', Debbie and Lou will openly be an OfficialCouple]]
37	Here's hoping that the studio, director and cast have taken note of how popular the ship is in the fanbase and will can the AmbiguouslyBi / AmbiguouslyGay crap for good in the potential sequel and make them an official item.
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39	[[WMG: The next film, if there is one, could be a huge crossover]]
40	One that would require TheReveal of Danny being alive, first things first. Many of the Eleven could return bar the late Creator/BernieMac and Creator/CarlReiner.
41	* The Eleven could team up with the Eight for the biggest heist in movie history.
42	* Or it could be a GambitPileup: the two crews trying to rob the same place at the same time without knowing of the other. It would be a great occasion to reunite the Oceans, brother and sister.
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44	[[WMG: [[ActorAllusion This is how]] [[Film/CrazyRichAsians Peik Lin]] got her money.]]
45	* It'd explain why Peik Lin's family was so obviously NouveauRiche compared to OldMoney types like the Youngs.

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