Line #25 PlayingWith/DetrimentalDetermination


1	'''Basic Trope''': Sometimes being the {{PlayingWith/Determinator}} is self-destructive and endangers others.
2	* '''Straight''': In the ''JustForFun/TalesOfTroperia'' series, mainstay [[TheRival rival]] [[TheBrute Claidheamh]] is ''constantly'' trying to defeat Sir Robert, often to no avail, and this often endangers everyone around him.
3	* '''Exaggerated''': Claidheamh is just so utterly determined to kill Sir Robert that he destroys ''anything'' in his path just to kill his rival.
4	* '''Downplayed''':
5	** Claidheamh only tries to fight Sir Robert when both are at their peak; He refuses to fight an injured (or outnumbered) Sir Robert. Any other time is fair game, though; Even when Claidheamh ''himself'' [[HypocriticalHumor is injured and/or outnumbered]].
6	** Claimheamh has destroyed his own resources, reputation and health to try to defeat Sir Robert, but he explicitly quits when the livelihood of ''others'' is at stake.
7	* '''Justified''': Claidheamh hates Sir Robert so much that he doesn't care for anything else around him.
8	* '''Inverted''': Claidheamh has a severe lack of determination, and his cowardice benefits everyone around him.
9	* '''Subverted''': Claidheamh [[KnowWhenToFoldEm concedes]] when outnumbered.
10	* '''Double Subverted''': That is, until his BerserkButton is pressed. Then all caution goes to the wind.
11	* '''Parodied''': Claidheamh explicitly states that he wakes up extra early just to be Sir Robert's rival.
12	* '''Zig-Zagged''': Claidheamh's willingness to fight fluctuates.
13	* '''Averted''': Claidheamh has normal amounts of determination.
14	* '''Enforced''': A bug in the first game manages to bump Claidheamh's chance of appearing in random encounter battles to be a concerning amount, even though he often gets squashed in the end game. The Developer decided to make this a plot point.
15	* '''Lampshaded''': "God, has it ever occurred to you to just ''give up''!?"
16	* '''Invoked''': (From Lampshaded) "Nay, I choose tae keep fightin'. I care only for the death of me greatest enemy, Sir Robert!"
17	* '''Exploited''': Claidheamh uses his constant determination to consistently take VictoryByEndurance again and again, even though he's basically tearing the landscapes apart.
18	* '''Defied''':
19	** Claidheamh is either physically crippled or outright killed.
20	** Sir Robert's party captures Claidheamh and puts him through all sorts of ColdBloodedTorture, mainly through [[BlackMagicianGirl Marcy]] inducing at least 120 decibels worth of {{Brown Note}}s and {{Mind Rap\|e}}ing him (as well as allowing [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil normal rape for the]] {{Token Evil Teammate}}s) in order to thoroughly ensure that he'll KnowWhenToFoldEm next time.
21	* '''Discussed''': "Claidheamh had gone so utterly mad that he's going to kill himself before he kills Sir Robert."
22	* '''Conversed''': "Good grief, this guy should at LEAST know when to quit!"
23	* '''Implied''': There is a cautionary tale of a Claidheamh whose perseverance was too much to handle. How this is expanded upon is up for interpretation.
24	* '''Played for Laughs''': Claidheamh has {{silly reason\|forwar}}s as to why he's so determined.
25	* '''Played for Drama''': Normally done as is.
26	* '''Played for Horror''': Claidheamh [[AnatomyAgony has gone through serious lengths of revenge (most of which is self harm) to the point that]] [[BodyHorror whatever is left of him is an honest to god miracle that it's still kicking]].
27	* '''Deconstructed''': Inherently, this trope is a deconstruction of {{Determinator}}, but here's a rare optimistic variant: Claidheamh's constant determination manages to snag him a PyrrhicVictory; Even when he had lost many, many battles, Claidheamh will at least be known for the one time he finally won...
28	* '''Reconstructed''': ...Or, that's what he believes. Instead, he is known for being a complete maniac whose utter perseverance serves as a cautionary tale for those who believe that determination will eventually win over everything else.
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