1 | '''Basic Trope''': Sometimes being the {{PlayingWith/Determinator}} is self-destructive and endangers others. |
2 | * '''Straight''': In the ''JustForFun/TalesOfTroperia'' series, mainstay [[TheRival rival]] [[TheBrute Claidheamh]] is ''constantly'' trying to defeat Sir Robert, often to no avail, and this often endangers everyone around him. |
3 | * '''Exaggerated''': Claidheamh is just so utterly determined to kill Sir Robert that he destroys ''anything'' in his path just to kill his rival. |
4 | * '''Downplayed''': |
5 | ** Claidheamh only tries to fight Sir Robert when both are at their peak; He refuses to fight an injured (or outnumbered) Sir Robert. Any other time is fair game, though; Even when Claidheamh ''himself'' [[HypocriticalHumor is injured and/or outnumbered]]. |
6 | ** Claimheamh has destroyed his own resources, reputation and health to try to defeat Sir Robert, but he explicitly quits when the livelihood of ''others'' is at stake. |
7 | * '''Justified''': Claidheamh hates Sir Robert so much that he doesn't care for anything else around him. |
8 | * '''Inverted''': Claidheamh has a severe lack of determination, and his cowardice benefits everyone around him. |
9 | * '''Subverted''': Claidheamh [[KnowWhenToFoldEm concedes]] when outnumbered. |
10 | * '''Double Subverted''': That is, until his BerserkButton is pressed. Then all caution goes to the wind. |
11 | * '''Parodied''': Claidheamh explicitly states that he wakes up extra early just to be Sir Robert's rival. |
12 | * '''Zig-Zagged''': Claidheamh's willingness to fight fluctuates. |
13 | * '''Averted''': Claidheamh has normal amounts of determination. |
14 | * '''Enforced''': A bug in the first game manages to bump Claidheamh's chance of appearing in random encounter battles to be a concerning amount, even though he often gets squashed in the end game. The Developer decided to make this a plot point. |
15 | * '''Lampshaded''': "God, has it ever occurred to you to just ''give up''!?" |
16 | * '''Invoked''': (From Lampshaded) "Nay, I choose tae keep fightin'. I care only for the death of me greatest enemy: Sir Robert!" |
17 | * '''Exploited''': Claidheamh uses his constant determination to consistently take VictoryByEndurance again and again, even though he's basically tearing the landscapes apart. |
18 | * '''Defied''': |
19 | ** Claidheamh is either physically crippled or outright killed. |
20 | ** Sir Robert's party captures Claidheamh and puts him through all sorts of ColdBloodedTorture, mainly through [[BlackMagicianGirl Marcy]] inducing at least 120 decibels worth of {{Brown Note}}s and {{Mind Rap|e}}ing him (as well as allowing [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil normal rape for the]] {{Token Evil Teammate}}s) in order to thoroughly ensure that he'll KnowWhenToFoldEm next time. |
21 | * '''Discussed''': "Claidheamh had gone so utterly mad that he's going to kill himself before he kills Sir Robert." |
22 | * '''Conversed''': "Good grief, this guy should at LEAST know when to quit!" |
23 | * '''Implied''': There is a cautionary tale of a Claidheamh whose perseverance was too much to handle. How this is expanded upon is up for interpretation. |
24 | * '''Played for Laughs''': Claidheamh has {{silly reason|forwar}}s as to why he's so determined to take down Sir Robert. |
25 | * '''Played for Drama''': Claidheamh has good reasons for why he's so determined to take down Sir Robert; His teammates burnt down his DoomedHometown. |
26 | * '''Played for Horror''': Claidheamh [[AnatomyAgony has gone through serious lengths of revenge (most of which is self harm) to the point that]] [[BodyHorror whatever is left of him is an honest to god miracle that it's still kicking]]. |
27 | * '''Deconstructed''': Inherently, this trope is a deconstruction of {{Determinator}}, but here's a rare optimistic variant: Claidheamh's constant determination manages to snag him a PyrrhicVictory; Even when he had lost many, many battles, Claidheamh will at least be known for the one time he finally won... |
28 | * '''Reconstructed''': ...Or, that's what he believes. Instead, he is known for being a complete maniac whose utter perseverance serves as a cautionary tale for those who believe that determination will eventually win over everything else. |
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30 | I don't care if it hurts me, I'm not going back to [[DetrimentalDetermination the main page!]] |
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