| 1 | This is the scale which tries to encapsulate how abusive and not-so-abusive parents' behaviors towards their children are judged by writers. As some authors like to remind you that [[{{Anvilicious}} a single bad day makes you evil]] and some others [[HandsOffParenting think that teenagers from 13 and up should be left to fend for themselves]], this can create serious ValuesDissonance. |
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| 3 | The usual examples of said dissonance usually consist of this: mothers [[DoubleStandard tend to be portrayed more sympathetically]] than fathers (unless they have a career); the protagonist [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality will usually]] have [[FreudianExcuse an excuse]] or be [[EasilyForgiven forgiven for]] the neglect that befalls their children; a dad or a mom [[DracoInLeatherPants has a much smaller chance]] to be seen as a villain; the dad who left the mom and the child fending for themselves and died a hero in the war becomes much more beloved than the mother who tries to prevent the child from staying up too late; and [[HandsOffParenting neglectful parents]] who let their children do whatever they want with no ill consequences are usually more popular with a young fandom than a rightly overprotective parent. It also complicates matters if the parents have more than one child (especially if one is adopted and they are treated more as guardians than parents) and treat them on a very different level. Their behavior might belong on a different category depending on the child. |
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| 5 | A high level of parent-shaming is usually a warning sign for TheWoobie, and a high number of these parents is usually a warning sign for a CrapsackWorld. |
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| 7 | Note that it can include older siblings and caretakers behaving as parents would. |
| 8 | [[noreallife]] |
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| 10 | !!Examples: |
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| 12 | [[foldercontrol]] |
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| 14 | [[folder:Off the scale: That was a bad day]] |
| 15 | Even the protagonist can indulge in this and remain sympathetic. The author will tell you these are forgivable mistakes, often with no knowledge of the bad consequences on the child, and understandably so: a better alternative could be imagined, but this one isn't this bad. It is really no big deal and will have no consequences even though the BrattyTeenageDaughter will complain about this for a while. ParentsAsPeople usually goes here as well, as even rather serious failings will be explained as the consequence of the parents being ordinarily fallible humans. |
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| 17 | No examples, please; this is far too subjective. |
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| 20 | [[folder:Type I: That was bad parenting]] |
| 21 | The protagonist can indulge in this and remain sympathetic, ''but'' expect either a redemption, or a small temporary decrease in popularity. It is mostly well-intentioned extremism, but can also be indifference toward something they think isn't important for the child. |
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| 23 | See mild and comedic examples of KnightTemplarParent, KnightTemplarBigBrother, and HandsOffParenting. |
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| 26 | [[AC: {{Anime}} and {{Manga}}]] |
| 27 | * ''Manga/SoulEater'' contrasts Maka's LovableSexManiac BumblingDad (who cheated on her mother a lot but sincerely cares about Maka) with Medusa's type IV. |
| 28 | * In ''Manga/SakiShinohayuDawnOfAge'', Kousuke, Shino's uncle and ParentalSubstitute after her mother's disappearance, tries to sell the mahjong set they and Shino's MissingMom played with, noticing Shino's depression. He thinks that having it around as a reminder of her mother will only make her depression worse (but since one tile is missing, the pawn shop owner says he doesn't think the set will sell). Shino is quite upset to learn about this, since she had hoped to enter a mahjong tournament in order to get her mother to come find her. However, when Kousuke sees Shino entering a tournament and enjoying herself, he comes up to her afterward and apologizes, saying that he was too busy with his job and the search for her mother to pay attention to her. He tells her that he will support what she wants to do from now on and gets the set back from the shop; they start playing together again. |
| 29 | * In ''Anime/GirlsUndPanzer'', Hana's mother, Yuri, passes out after learning that her daughter is doing tankery due to no longer being satisfied with flower arranging. Upon coming to, Yuri tries to find out if something is bothering Hana and tries to convince her that her flower arranging is good. After Hana reiterates her desire to do tankery, Yuri tells her never to come home again. Hana, however, remains convinced that her mother will come around, and she ''does'', after seeing that Hana's flower arranging has improved and is taking on its own style as a result of doing tankery. |
| 30 | * ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' had Misato Katsuragi as Shinji and Asuka's guardian. She seems to do a better job than their parents. "Better" in the sense that she constantly reminds them of their duties at school and work, at least. In spite of this, when it comes to their emotional and psychological needs, she can't do much about it as she has her own personal issues. |
| 31 | * ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00'': Colonel Sergei Smirnov had a strained relationship with his son, Andrei, and at the start of Season 2, he's surprised that he joined the A-Laws, though he treats him coldly. It's revealed that Andrei resented his father for not telling him the reason behind his mother's death and believed that he got her killed. [[spoiler:It gets worse later on when Andrei kills his own father on the assumption that he's helping the Federation rebels]]. However, Sergei's father-daughter relationship with [[SuperSoldier Soma Peries]] / Marie Parfacy is way better. When Soma's personality as Marie returns, he tells Allelujah to keep her out of battle and is grateful when Marie told him that the Soma Peries personality still sees him as a father. [[spoiler:This was used later on when Soma/Marie told Andrei that the colonel still cared for him and couldn't bring himself to tell the truth about his mother's death, much to Andrei's grief and regret]]. |
| 32 | * Kotetsu T. Kaburagi of ''Anime/TigerAndBunny'' is a single father who is constantly working at his dream job as a superhero. He doesn't spend time with his daughter, who lives with her uncle and grandmother and doesn't care about him being a superhero. [[spoiler:This becomes a problem later on when Kotetsu's powers start to dwindle and he has trouble trying to explain this to her and his partner, Barnaby.]] |
| 33 | * ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'': Amuro Rey's father is rarely at home and usually busy building the eponymous Gundam, though the first episode showed that he, at some point, cared about him with his picture on his desk. And then he ends up [[DeathByFallingOver dead]]. The mother chose to stay on Earth and is heavily implied to have been having an affair. However, Amuro still cares about her by the time he returns to Earth and his hometown. The relationship fell apart when Amuro killed a Zeon soldier in front of her and he outright said that he has to fight to protect, which his mother doesn't accept. |
| 34 | * In ''Manga/BloomIntoYou'', Touko's parents are shown to be loving, if a bit aloof, but unwittingly encourage Touko to be just like her sister Mio after the latter's death seven years before the start of the story. Touko's father does try to suggest that Touko doesn't need to push herself so hard, but Touko has spent so long chasing after Mio that she doesn't take it well. After Touko successfully revives the SchoolPlay, a school tradition that ended after Mio's death, Touko's parents realize that they should be there for her more. |
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| 36 | [[AC: Comic Books]] |
| 37 | * ''ComicBook/{{Robin|1993}}'': Tim's parents absentee parenting style is clearly not good for him, although his mother was murdered prior to the start of the series. His father doesn't really have any place trying to parent him when he is home either given how emotionally abusive he is without even realizing it and the fact that he tends to treat Tim as a status symbol rather than his own person. Bruce's displeasure with the Drakes' parenting was made clear long before Tim got his own ongoing: |
| 38 | -->'''Bruce:''' Tim…have you spoken to your parents about your being here?\ |
| 39 | '''Tim:''' My parents? Actually…I don’t know where they are now. Dad’s a corporate exec and they go all over the world. They haven’t called in a while.\ |
| 40 | '''Bruce:''' Do they do that often? Not call? |
| 41 | * Also from the ''ComicBook/{{Batman}}''-verse we have Dr. Jeremiah Arkham, who kept his daughter Astrid [[MadwomanInTheAttic isolated from the outside world]] for roughly ''twenty years'' after his fiancee/Astrid's mother was killed in a riot and overall over-protectiveness (semi-understandable since this is [[CrapsackWorld Gotham]] we're talking about here, but [[BedlamHouse Arkham]] is admittedly not much better not the least [[CardboardPrison because it explodes constantly]]). Unfortunately, his patients became more involved in parenting her more than him and they basically raised her as anti-Batman {{Tykebomb}}, becoming the Arkham Knight in the process. |
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| 43 | [[AC: {{Fanfiction}}]] |
| 44 | * In ''Fanfic/OfBloodAndSteel'', Riko "Erwin" Matsumoto's mother comes off as a bit cold, telling Erwin in no uncertain terms that they'll have to move from Oarai to Raven's Peak, because of her new job. The decision is justified, since the Matsumotos need the money, but the rather blunt way Mrs. Matsumoto delivers the news results in Erwin feeling bitter for some time. |
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| 46 | [[AC: Films -- Animated]] |
| 47 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaidIIReturnToTheSea'': Ariel, to Melody, but only by hiding a part of her heritage in order to protect her. The dramatic music playing in the background when Melody bursts into tears because of Ariel's reprimand makes clear that the writer considered this was serious business. Perhaps her only mistake was not to trust her for the case. |
| 48 | * The Sultan to Jasmine in ''WesternAnimation/{{Aladdin}}''. He didn't force her into an arranged marriage, but strongly encouraged her, because he genuinely thought it would be best for her. She dreamed of freedom and recognition to such a point that she puts herself in danger in order to have a taste of it. She also sets doves free while dreamily watching them flying to a far away place, which is not a good omen to begin with... |
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| 50 | [[AC: Films -- Live-Action]] |
| 51 | * Lord Thomas Bertram in the ''Film/MansfieldPark'' adaptations. He is portrayed as a cold, but well-meaning father figure to Fanny. Much more efficient and generous than her [[AffablyEvil Affably Selfish]] father and mother. |
| 52 | * This is how Mr. and Mrs. Bennet are portrayed in ''Film/PrideAndPrejudice2005''. Mrs. Bennet is neurotic and self-focused, but both practical and well-meaning. Mr. Bennet is overly snarky and not implicated enough in his two youngest daughters' lives, but also kind and well-meaning (it is stated as such in the many analyses and in the DVD commentary). The book was much more pejorative in its treatment of their education. |
| 53 | * Hank Pym from ''Film/AntMan1'' had a strained relationship with his daughter, Hope, and lied to her about her mother's death. As a result, Hope sides with Darren Cross to take over his company until she found out that Cross is not a nice man so she went back to her father. However, Hank refuses to let Hope take the Comicbook/AntMan mantle and instead has the ex-con, Scott Lang, do it. This further strains the relationship. Later on, Hank tells his daughter that his wife is Comicbook/TheWasp, who helped him during his superhero days [[spoiler:and made a HeroicSacrifice in one of their missions which caused him him retire and blame himself for it]]. After this revelation, the two reconciled. In TheStinger, [[spoiler:Hank decides to let Hope inherit the Wasp mantle by presenting her the new suit]]. |
| 54 | * The portrayal of Jonathan Kent in ''Film/ManOfSteel'' is very controversial to fans of Franchise/{{Superman}}. While his wife helped Clark control and channel his powers, Jonathan doesn't want him to use them out of fear of being exposed to the public, despite the fact that Clark wants to use them for good. It doesn't help that after the bus accident where Clark saves his classmates by using his SuperStrength, he confronts Jonathan: "What am I supposed to do?! ''Just let them die?!''" Jonathan answers, "''Maybe''". Then, there's the flashback where Clark calls him out, telling Jonathan that he's not his father. It gets worse when he is about to save his adopted dad when the tornado is coming near until Jonathan refuses, [[spoiler:which resulted to his death and Clark's grief]]. |
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| 56 | [[AC: {{Literature}}]] |
| 57 | * Various instances in the works of Creator/JaneAusten: |
| 58 | ** Mrs Dashwood in ''Literature/SenseAndSensibility''. She is one of the best mothers in Jane Austen's books, but she never realizes that Elinor, her eldest daughter who isn't as passionate as her and her younger daughter, can suffer as deeply as them, and acts much more constructively as the author quickly notes before explicitly writing that the favorite is Marianne, not Elinor. It reinforces Elinor's isolation in a painful situation out of which she pulls herself alone. |
| 59 | ** In ''Literature/{{Persuasion}}'', Lady Russel encourages the young and innocent Anne to dump her fiancé. Despite her good intentions and true generosity, she is proven wrong when she imagines the marriage wouldn't have worked only because of class pride and a quick first impression of the gentleman. This despite the fact that she ''has been around Sir Walter Eliott'' for years, and knows that aristocracy isn't the guarantee for a good personality. She even recognizes it innerly. |
| 60 | ** ''Literature/{{Emma}}'': Mr Woodhouse let his daughter become the mistress of the house and convinced her that he couldn't bear her marriage if she left home. Being clever, cunning, and having no future perspectives for herself, she fully focuses on a hilarious matchmaking business. [[spoiler: Need we say it goes as awry as it can in a Jane Austen novel ?]]. |
| 61 | * ''Literature/HarryPotter'': Molly Weasley is one of the GoodParents in the series and Harry's ParentalSubstitute. However, her "mollycoddling" (as Harry calls it) and overprotectiveness can be annoying to Harry, Hermione and the younger Weasley children in the fifth book, when they're not allowed to attend meetings of the Order. However, she and the rest of the adults are doing what Dumbledore had told them to: that is, keeping Harry in the dark regarding his connection to Voldemort, which resulted in Sirius' death. Dumbledore regrets this. |
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| 64 | * Robby Ray is this, sometimes, in ''Series/HannahMontana''. He likes to criticize his son Jackson as a RunningGag. Except, when you see all Jackson goes through, it isn't even funny, and numerous times it isn't completely supposed to be. This was finally acknowledged in an episode where Miley accused her grandmother of favoring Jackson over her. Grandma's answer? "Of course, I do. If I didn't, who would?". Robbie Ray recognizes that the situation is bad and tells Jackson that he is proud of him. Unfortunately Miley unwittingly steals the spotlight and by next episode everything [[SnapBack snaps back]]. He lets Jackson be abused by his chief, and refuses to ask a smaller discount for the abuse episodes to decrease in intensity, but can't bear it when he is subjected to a day of it himself. Now remember that most of Robby Ray's time is used to make his popstar daughter have a successful career. |
| 65 | * Alison Dubois and Joe, from ''Series/{{Medium}}'', were this at worst during the first couple of seasons. They are very conservative and quite strict, but they mean well and (unless ''Alison'' is possessed or ''they'' are possessed) treat their daughters in a coherent, constructive and loving way. However, they also force them to apply themselves to quite high and sometimes contradictory standards. This leads to many {{The Reason You Suck Speech}}es from one of them to the other. Their daughter Bridget later feels neglected in comparison of the two other much more glaringly perfect sisters. Ultimately, they all regress into a not-abusive-at-all state, after some type III episodes when the visions badly shake one of them, or in very dramatic {{Alternate Universe}}s where they understandably lose control. |
| 66 | ** Since Arielle, the eldest daughter, behaves as a caretaker and is influenced by their behavior, she is also a part of the equation. She behaves mostly as they ask but treats Bridget much more harshly than they do, and finds her free-minded, less socially conformist behavior annoying. Bridget ends up lashing out at her, viciously telling her why she won't miss her when she goes to college. Arielle is very affected, and it takes a ghost intervention to set things right. |
| 67 | * ''Series/OnceUponATime'' has Regina, who tried to avoid this trope after indulging in it in the first season. This serves to contrast her with her mother, [[AmbitionIsEvil The]]-[[StageMom Woman]]-[[{{Yandere}} Whose]]-[[ManipulativeBastard Name]]-[[PsychoticSmirk Makes]]-[[ColdBloodedTorture The]]-[[EvilMatriarch Fandom]]-[[AndShowItToYou Tremble]], Cora. |
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| 70 | * Most parents who are involved in Social Links in ''VideoGame/Persona4'' fall into this category. Dojima rarely spends time with Nanako because he's afraid of failing her, Eri has trouble bonding with her stepson Yuuta due to internalizing questionable ideas about being a mother and Shu's mother, by lavishing praise on her son, ends up inadvertently convincing him that he can only please her by doing well at school. What keeps them out of Type II is the fact that they recognize their flaws and work on overcoming them, and that like the rest of the Social Links, they're portrayed as well-intentioned but flawed individuals with the potential to change for the better. |
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| 73 | * ''Roleplay/TheDoomyAdventuresOfIrkenDoominess'' showcasts Deef and Alyssa's parents. They are type 2s bordering type 3 because they neglect their children, Deef and Alyssa don't seem all that affected but Deef often comments that his mom "Isn't really a good mom". |
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| 75 | [[AC:WesternAnimation]] |
| 76 | * Ursa in ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' doted on her oldest son Zuko, who was badly ignored and mistreated by his father, but in doing so accidentally forgot to give her daughter Azula the same protection. While she ''did'' love her daughter very much, she mistook Azula's behavior to mean she could handle things on her own despite Ozai being just as bad to her in a different way. This messed Azula up badly, and [[spoiler:ultimately led to her breakdown in the series finale. Ursa tried to patch things up with her in ''The Search'' and Azula seemed to let her, only to run away later on.]] |
| 77 | * In the spin-off series, ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'': Toph ultimately loved her daughters and considered them a blessing, but gave them far too much freedom (a result of own parents' over-protective and restrictive ways), wouldn't tell either about their respective fathers, and was frequently busy as the chief of police. |
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| 81 | [[folder:Type II: That made you a bad parent]] |
| 82 | This is short for "That made you a bad parent, but since StatusQuoIsGod, we may either forgive you in twenty minutes, or provoke your KarmicDeath". |
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| 84 | This ''is'' a big deal, at least for the writer. |
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| 86 | The character can remain officially sympathetic, but he has got to pull a DaddyHadAGoodReasonForAbandoningYou, or a MyGodWhatHaveIDone At this point, they are deemed redeemable, things may improve and everything may be fine, but the bad memories will ''never'' fade. If they aren't redeemed, expect the parent to cross to level 4, the child to forgive them while acknowledging implicitly all this damage, or the parent and the child to be estranged. |
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| 88 | See (usually) examples of KnightTemplarParent, KnightTemplarBigBrother and HandsOffParenting. May still cause DesignatedVillain complaints, even among people whose views do not get much further from the author's. |
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| 91 | [[AC: Anime and Manga]] |
| 92 | * While ''{{Manga/Saki}}'s'' parents have never been shown engaging in such behavior on-screen, she reveals that in the past, if she lost a mahjong game, her parents would take away her New Year's money, and if she won, her parents would get mad at her. The experience caused her to hate mahjong, but it's also implied that there may be more to her parents' separation than these arguments. |
| 93 | ** Nodoka's father is relatively strict and emotionally distant from her; one morning, the only thing he says to her before she goes to school is that she shouldn't play mahjong as much. He also wants her to give up on playing mahjong and go to a preparatory school, deriding mahjong as a game of chance, and believing that friends will be of no use to her in a "hick town" like the one where she lives. She implies that he's often away from home at night, and only seems to think about him when reflecting on the deal she made with him- she can stay in her current school if she wins the mahjong tournament. By comparison, Nodoka's mother doesn't know about the deal until just before the finals, and doesn't believe that Nodoka should have to go this far just to stay where she is. |
| 94 | * ''Manga/{{Bokurano}}'' |
| 95 | ** Jun Ushiro's father adopted him, the son of one of his former students. Both father and son describe the relationship as distant, with the elder Ushiro afraid to get close to his adoptive son, lest Jun reject him. His relationship with his biological daughter Kana is better, but he confesses that his mishandling Jun resulted in his relationship with Kana being damaged. In Jun's last conversation with his father, he apologizes for being a bad son, at which point Mr. Ushiro says that Jun never was a bad son- ''he himself'' was a bad father. |
| 96 | ** Akira Tokosumi was often away from home due to his work as a newscaster, resulting in his daughter Aiko (aka [[InSeriesNickname Anko]]) dreaming about becoming an IdolSinger so she could see him, and the two only really began talking in the days leading up to Aiko's battle and death. He gets called out in various ways- his wife's apparently a bit cross with him when he asks about Aiko going to nature school (which got the kids together and kicked off the plot), his boss says he's a great newscaster if not a good father, and Machi is furious when [[spoiler:Akira continues filming Zearth's battle after Aiko lost her legs while saving Machi's life]]. |
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| 98 | [[AC: Comic Books]] |
| 99 | * In the ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics'', Locke, Knuckles' father, has a questionable parenting technique. When Knuckles was still just an egg, Locke had him bombarded with radiation from a Chaos Emerald. When Knuckles was three, Locke began training him to be Guardian of Angel Island. This upset his wife, Lara-Le, and the two argued on how to raise Knuckles. The two divorced and Locke, being a Guardian, was given full custody of Knuckles. When Knuckles was five, they moved out of the city and into the wilderness, where Knuckles' training continued. Oh, and Locke told Knuckles his mother was ''dead''. When Knuckles was ten, Locke told his son he had to leave, then walked into a wall of fire, leaving Knuckles completely alone so that he would grow up to become independent. Until Knuckles was 15, Locke had him under constant surveillance to monitor his progress. Locke admits that his parenting skills are lacking, but he was more concerned with making Knuckles into a good Guardian than being a good dad. |
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| 101 | [[AC: Films -- Animated]] |
| 102 | * In Disney's ''WesternAnimation/{{Pocahontas}}'', the chief Powathan proves quite forceful in pushing Pocahontas into marriage with Kocoum. He also refuses to listen to her pleas and tells her "You cannot imagine how much I am ashamed of you" while also knowing that his approval and her people were so important for her that she considered letting go of the possibility of freedom for them. He eventually gets better, and had apparently always been kinder up to this period, but during this moment, he clearly but briefly crosses a line. This was not approved of by some highly-regarded members of Native American communities, as it goes against a Native American principle to always listen to one's children. However, he redeems himself for this and becomes non-abusive when he listens to her in the end of the movie, which an American Indian spokesman described as the moment in which the movie redeemed itself by showing someone practicing an American Indian culture accurately by way of this character, at least on this point. |
| 103 | * In ''WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989'', King Triton destroys Ariel's prized possessions as punishment for her intense curiosity about the human world and failure to heed his warnings that humans are dangerous. While his concern is understandable enough and he shows remorse and is later forgiven, this reaction is abusive and [[DisproportionateRetribution uncalled for to say the least]] and ends up driving Ariel straight to Ursula. |
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| 105 | [[AC: {{Literature}}]] |
| 106 | * Jane Austen liked using this type: |
| 107 | ** Lord Thomas Bertram and Lady Bertram in the book ''Literature/MansfieldPark''. They let Mrs. Norris bring Fanny down, Lady Bertram is lazy and self-involved and Lord Bertram is offensive and critical while it is not needed and tries to make her accept an ArrangedMarriage. But Lord Bertram means well and treats her decently and Lady Bertram loves Fanny dearly. This is evidenced by the generally positive view of Lord Bertram and his (justified after the narrator) MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment, and Lady Bertram's ironic but ultimately sympathetic portrayal as a sensitive but self-involved LazyBum. Their actions nevertheless lead to Maria and Julia turning into inconsiderate spoiled young girls, which leads to a lot of the problems in the story, but this part was unintended. The {{Aesop}} of the book seems to be partly that deep and well-thought education is an important thing, and mustn't be neglected in order to avoid creating self-destructive and self-centered people. |
| 108 | ** Mr. and Mrs. Bennet in ''Literature/PrideAndPrejudice''. It is outright stated in the book that their parenting mistakes and Mr Bennet's failure at showing respect to his wife are the cause of the family's problems. It can be explained thus: |
| 109 | *** Mr Bennet, despite a great intelligence allied with quick wit and much JerkassDissonance, is a cold, critical and neglectful father who leaves all the parenting to his impulsive, mean-spirited, verbally abusive, self-involved and extremely neurotic but ultimately loving wife. He unwittingly forces the children to "choose sides", which is very blatant with all the sisters but the eldest: Elizabeth is a younger ''girler'' version of him, with more compassion and indulgence, but still a [[{{Pride}} proud]] DeadpanSnarker and HorribleJudgeOfCharacter. Mary tries to impress him by gaining knowledge and a level-headed exterior, but ultimately ridicules herself. The two other sisters are younger versions of the mother, one of which may be hurt by her father's disdain and controls herself, while the other couldn't care less and [[spoiler: ruins the family's reputation because she really doesn't care about the only rational parent's opinion (seeing the way he treats her, many modern readers may accept this as understandable).]] |
| 110 | *** This directly causes: Elizabeth showing interest in Wickham and imagining that Darcy is a monster while he is more a JerkWithAHeartOfGold and after the revelation becomes her future husband, being asked to marry Mr. Collins, and getting humiliated, Jane to temporarily lose her fiancé, Lydia to marry a remorseless GoldDigger who ''likes'' her, and Mary and Kitty to witness all this and react in the most screwed-up way possible. |
| 111 | *** All of the daughters have screwed-up ideas of how people are supposed to behave in relationships, perhaps caused by a feeling of inferiority. Jane doesn't show her interest, Elizabeth is perfectly fine with the man she flirted with marrying a mildly richer woman (and even comments on how ''modest'' he is by choosing someone not-so-rich), and Lydia is no exception. |
| 112 | * Helen Graham from ''Literature/TheTenantOfWildfellHall'' is considered this in-universe by her neighbors as she is an example of MyBelovedSmother who won't let her son drink alcohol or do dangerous things, and even claims that she would rather see him dead than becoming what her neighbor calls "a man from the world" after a stressful moment. [[spoiler: She is actually a combination of BrokenBird and GoodIsNotNice, and tries to avoid the situation in which he would become like her own father and her husband, both alcoholics, neglectful fathers, and generally hedonistic men.]] |
| 113 | * [[Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire Doran Martell]] arranges several marriages to his heir and daughter, Arianne, with elderly men but the latter felt that he wanted to pass her inheritance to her younger brother, Quentyn, after she had read a letter meant for Quentyn when she was young. [[spoiler:When her uncle Oberyn died via MutualKill against Gregor Clegane]], Doran imprisoned her cousins, the Sand Snakes, when they were planning to start a war with the Lannister in retaliation, which pissed Arianne off sufficiently to stage a coup against her father until it was thwarted. Doran revealed that [[spoiler:she was supposed to marry Viserys Targaryen as part of his and Oberyn's plan to avenge the deaths of Elia and her children against the Lannisters, thus making her queen and passing the inheritance to Quentyn. [[labelnote:Note]]Of course, Viserys is dead for his own stupidity which makes Quentyn doing the deed by wooing Daenarys.[[/labelnote]] ]] But had not Doran kept his plans too secret from his relatives, [[spoiler:then Myrcella Baratheon wouldn't have lost an ear and Arys Oakheart wouldn't have died]]. After this revelation, Arianne and the Sand Snakes became supportive of it, though the latter still make quick jabs on their uncle Doran's passivity. |
| 114 | ** Catelyn Stark clearly loves her children and [[MamaBear is willing to do anything to protect and save them]] (which leads to [[NiceJobBreakingItHero very damaging consequences]]) but she resents her husband's [[HeroicBastard illegitimate child]] Jon Snow for being her husband's son by [[MissingMom another woman]] raised alongside her lawful children. While Jon loves and is loved by his father, half-siblings, and uncle, Catelyn remains distant and cold to him -- albeit she is never physically abusive to him and does not interfere in Jon's close relationships with his father and half-siblings. In a mad moment of grief when her son Bran is in a coma, she lashes out at a fourteen-year old Jon, who is also deeply grieved over his half-brother Bran, by telling Jon, [[YouShouldHaveDiedInstead "It should have been you"]]. She's glad when Jon decides to join the Night's Watch, where he'll be with his CoolUncle Benjen Stark. However, Catelyn is displeased when her son Robb, Jon's half-brother with whom he is very close, plans to legitimize him to inherit Winterfell in the event that he dies in the war he is fighting. |
| 115 | * In ''Literature/TheGordianEvent'' by Lee Deadkeys, Grandpa Walker tried to teach Frank a lesson after he let their meat rabbits out. He walked Frank outside with a shotgun, where their dogs had torn the rabbits to shreds. He made Frank watch while he shot the dogs, telling him that it was time to ''face the consequences''. Originally, Frank thought the gun was meant for ''him''. |
| 116 | --> '''Jess:''' My God, Gramps was kind of an asshole. |
| 117 | * ''[[Literature/Touch2017 Touch]]'' is set in a world where magical powers run in families, but only manifest through [[TraumaticSuperpowerAwakening some form of trauma]]. This has resulted in otherwise decent parents believing that it's okay to harm their children ''just'' enough for them to get superpowers. |
| 118 | ** [[spoiler:[[TheEmpath Caspar]]]]'s parents wound up abusing him for years hoping for this to work, and while the dad hated doing it, the mother seems more coldly pragmatic about the issue. Meanwhile, their kid ''does'' wind up getting powers, [[CallingTheOldManOut and now hates them]], running away from home upon learning the truth. |
| 119 | -->''"Surely it’s better to do it yourself, and give the kid as much help as they need in the aftermath. Yeah, I’m a crap dad, but I wasn’t wrong for trying to make it easier.” For a moment, he remembered his own father doing much the same. Afterwards, he’d been given ice cream.'' |
| 120 | ** When Peter was seven his parents, Hideyoshi and Tsuru, captured a faun, which is a SupernaturalFearInducer, and locked him in a room with it for three hours. They only let him out when he began begging them [[{{Omniglot}} in Turkish]]. As far as we know this was a one-time thing, but Peter outright calls it child abuse, and refuses to do it to his own children. |
| 121 | * ''Literature/TheShining'': Jack Torrance breaks his son Danny's arm in a fit of rage, and it's shown that he's incredibly cruel and hostile to others which results in the rest of his family suffering. While he lost control at a certain point, his repressed negative feelings towards his wife and child eventually lead to the house possessing him and trying to make him kill them, but he still clearly very deeply loves his son, to the point of briefly snapping out of the hotel's possession to save him and say goodbye to him. |
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| 123 | [[AC: LiveActionTV]] |
| 124 | * ''Series/VeronicaMars'' had Lianne Mars as a type two. She starts off as a MissingMom, the reasons for which weren't entirely in her control (it's complicated). But later on, after she's found again, Veronica learns that her mom has never fully recovered from her alcoholism. She dumps her college fund to get her mom into rehab. Her mom not only skips out before her program is complete, but steals Veronica's 50-grand bounty before disappearing (again). However, as she was an alcoholic, the writers maintained a reasonable doubt as to whether to blame her or her sickness for her most desperate acts. |
| 125 | * John Winchester of ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' is sympathetic once we know his history, but still falls here. He ostracizes Sam for going to Stanford when he could be hunting monsters; Dean has an obedient and authoritarian attitude towards John that John apparently prefers; he made his sons spend their childhood as traveling Hunters despite the many disadvantages of this lifestyle; and he is usually portrayed as an emotionally distant drunk. But he did it all because the Yellow-Eyed demon has plans for Sam and there was probably no course of action that had a better chance of saving Sam from these plans. (Although we can still ask, was he right to keep so much of his rationale a secret, instead of telling Sam and Dean?) A few episodes have him one level down, such as in "Bad Boys" when he apparently allowed Dean to be sent to a boy's home when he was caught stealing food (!), to "teach him a lesson" - the characterization is somewhat inconsistent. |
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| 127 | [[AC:Video Games]] |
| 128 | * ''VideoGame/{{Omori}}'': The entire main friend group is plagued by issues with their parents. Sunny's father left the family, and his mother has done little to feed him or help him with his depression and anxiety once he isolated himself [[spoiler:after accidentally killing his older sister (whose contributing perfectionism is implied to have been worsened by their parents)]]. Kel was TheUnfavorite to his parents for his entire life and is still quite curt about it. Kel's older brother Hero was likely also influenced by them to give up his dream of being a professional cook. Aubrey's parents are divorced, and her mother neglected to keep [[HorribleHousing her house]] livable or even attend to her. Somewhat similarly, Basil's parents are too busy to have seen him in a very long time, giving him issues with abandonment. |
| 129 | * Yukari's mother in ''VideoGame/Persona3'' was so broken by the death of her husband that she neglected Yukari and began many shallow relationships with men, resulting in mother and daughter being estranged for years. That said, she does see the error of her ways, and promises not to try to get remarried until her daughter forgives her. [[CharacterDevelopment Yukari also gradually comes to understand how her mother felt]], and [[NotSoDifferentRemark realizes that they aren't that different]], ([[spoiler:which is especially true in light of The Answer]]), so she hesitantly decides to reconcile with her mother. |
| 130 | |
| 131 | [[AC: Web Animation]] |
| 132 | * ''WebAnimation/HelluvaBoss'': Stolas loves his daughter Octavia very much and would do anything for her, except that he's often not only oblivious to her needs but will take actions that run counter to them through sheer incompetence. It's not a good look when Octavia's debut episode and Stolas's first focus episode has Octavia depressed over her parents' marriage falling apart due to Stolas's affair with Blitzo, and to take her mind off things Stolas suggests going to a theme park together... only to invite the man who he's having an affair with as "hired security" (which he's powerful enough to not need anyway) as a thinly veiled excuse to flirt with him and have his fantasies of being rescued by Blitzo fulfilled. |
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| 134 | [[AC: WebOriginal]] |
| 135 | * In ''Roleplay/TheDoomyAdventuresOfIrkenDoominess'': Nel's parents are type 2. They physically abused Nel and her sisters, but after Nel [[TheRunAway ran away from home]], they had a MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment. When Nel went to confront her parents, she realized they were no longer mean and forgave them. |
| 136 | * Because of flashbacks showing her as a BrattyTeenageDaughter, ''WebVideo/TheNostalgiaChick'''s family are in Type II. They're still awful (her uncle raped her), but it's more realistic "distant father/disappointed mother" compared to the cruelty of Critic's past. |
| 137 | |
| 138 | [[AC: WesternAnimation]] |
| 139 | * ''WesternAnimation/HeyArnold'': Helga Pataki's parents don't pay much attention to her because they're too busy doting on her older sister, Olga, who is eventually stressed out by [[StageMom her parents' attention]]. The mom, Miriam, is possibly alcoholic and sometimes forgetful, which causes Helga to look down on her; meanwhile, her dad, Bob, is busy with his beeper business and tries to groom Helga into becoming like Olga, much to Helga's dismay. Their lack of attention toward her is pretty much responsible for making her into a bullying {{Tsundere}}. However, they do care about her, and at least attempt to make up for their mistakes once Helga calls them out. |
| 140 | * Mr. and Mrs. Turner of ''WesternAnimation/FairlyOddParents'' are portrayed as very neglectful that they leave their son, Timmy, to an ObviouslyEvil babysitter. Though there are few cases where they love and care for Timmy, they're basically [[ManChild adult-sized children]]. |
| 141 | [[/folder]] |
| 142 | |
| 143 | |
| 144 | [[folder:Type III: That made you a bad person]] |
| 145 | The parent can still be well-intentioned but misguided, though in most cases, they are either a huge {{Jerkass}} or a lunatic. They may have canonical redeeming qualities, enough vulnerability, or enough limits to save themselves from being pure evil. This character can be sympathetic but expect in most cases a condemnation from the writer, and maybe a KarmicDeath. |
| 146 | |
| 147 | See the most misguided examples of KnightTemplarParent, KnightTemplarBigBrother, and ParentalAbandonment. |
| 148 | |
| 149 | May cause canonical CryForTheDevil. |
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| 151 | |
| 152 | [[AC: Anime and Manga]] |
| 153 | * Shiho Nishizumi from ''Anime/GirlsUndPanzer'', mainly to her younger daughter Miho. She belittles Miho's approach to tankery, calling her "foolish" to ask whether Maho needed to [[spoiler:fire on a tank from the opposing team that was trying to save one from her team]] even when she was winning, and berates Miho from later [[spoiler:saving a tank from her team, even though her team lost, seemingly as a result of that decision]]. She even goes so far as to [[spoiler:plan to cast Miho out of the family]] due to not liking her approach to tankery, although, in the end, she has a moment in which she can be interpreted as accepting Miho's way of tankery. It's somewhat telling that Maho, Shiho's eldest daughter and heiress, as well as the person who seems spared from most of her mistreatment, [[spoiler:only decides to live up to being heiress so that Miho will not have to]]. |
| 154 | * ''Anime/UruseiYatsura'': Fujinami Ryuunosuke is the daughter of a man who demanded a male heir. He decides to raise his daughter as a boy, despite her fervent wishes otherwise, and proceeds to foil every attempt she makes to have a normal life. |
| 155 | * ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' has this with Grisha Yeager, who turns out to [[spoiler:have had a wife and a son long before he met Karla and had Eren. Grisha raised his son, Zeke, as a warrior who was meant to rebel against the nation of Marley, which oppressed Grisha and all other Eldians, only for Zeke to end up betraying his parents, resulting in the rebels being arrested and turned into Titans, with Grisha surviving only because of a spy in the Marleyan military]]. [[HeelRealization Grisha calls himself a bad husband, a bad father and a bad man]]. |
| 156 | * ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'': Endeavor married Rei in hopes of having a child with ComboPlatterPowers who could overcome All Might. After one half-failure (Toya, the oldest, whose fire was stronger than his but more unstable and who ran out), he struck gold with Shoto and then proceeded to abuse/train him into becoming a hero. |
| 157 | * ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'': |
| 158 | ** [[spoiler: Yui Ikari, the UnscrupulousHero BigGood of the overall narrative, is prevented from being Type IV solely because she did the horrible things she did to her son in an effort to [[WellIntentionedExtremist protect him regardless of the mental toll to him]]. She deliberately made her infant son witness her being absorbed into Unit 01 and refused to leave despite being able to at any time and engineered situations to ensure he would be further traumatized to trigger a reversable version of Third Impact and counter SEELE's and her husband's agendas before leaving him forever.]] |
| 159 | ** [[spoiler: Kyoko Zeppelin Soryu lost her sanity after her Contact Experiment with Unit-02 and ignored her daughter Asuka for most of her childhood. When Asuka was selected as an EVA pilot, Kyoko ''hung herself'' in front of her daughter, the incident traumatizing Asuka for the rest of her life. [[Manga/NeonGenesisEvangelion The manga adaptation]] makes her even worse, with her attempting to ''kill'' Asuka at some point. The reason she's not a Type IV is due to her aforementioned insanity, meaning she wasn't in the right state of mind at the time, and assists Asuka during her battle with the Eva-Series.]] |
| 160 | |
| 161 | [[AC: Comic Books]] |
| 162 | * ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}}, real name Slade Wilson, was a long-time nemesis of the ComicBook/TeenTitans, and has a terrible parenting record. Because of his activities as a mercenary, a rival kidnapped his son, Joseph. When trying to rescue Joeseph, the boy's throat got slit, leaving him a mute. His wife was so angry she shot Slade in the face, causing him to lose his right eye, then divorced him. Slade's other son Grant grew into a mercinary himself, and worked for the HIVE. They augmented his abilities and sent him to fight the Titans, but the augmentations failed and Grant died. Slade then decided to get revenge on the Titans, and manipulated a young girl, Terra, to infiltrate the Titan's rannks'. Terra was a teenager, and the two slept together. Terra would later die after turning agaist the Titans. Slade also killed his son Joseph when the boy became possesed by a demon. Later, Slade would find he had a daughter, Rose, who he at one point brainwashed into serving him. |
| 163 | |
| 164 | [[AC: {{Fanfiction}}]] |
| 165 | * In ''Fanfic/BoysUndSenshado'', Miho's mother, Shiho, [[spoiler:disowns her]] over her way of sensha-do being incompatible with her family's. In the process, she receives a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech from Miho's LoveInterest [[OriginalCharacter Akio]], gets [[CallingTheOldManOut called out by her other daughter, Maho]] and her [[InvisibleParents husband]], and the Sensha-do Federation is considering forcing her to resign. Shiho does, however, claim that she was partly motivated for Miho's sake, reasoning that [[spoiler:doing so would allow Miho to live her life freely, and that Miho has support from her friends]], although Maho says that what Shiho did is, in and of itself, very painful for Miho, who [[WellDoneSonGuy has wanted her parents' approval]]. |
| 166 | * Axel in ''Fanfic/MemoriesOfInfinitesPast'' emotionally abuses his son, Zero, and never showed any love for him, no matter how much he tried to be like him, a professional thief, and appease him with his steals. [[spoiler:He even tries to kill him later on!]] However, what saves him from being unforgivable is that he [[FreudianExcuse lost his wife Ellie]], the only person who loved him, [[DeathByChildbirth to Zero's birth]], which caused him to be so bitter and [[MaternalDeathBlameTheChild blaming of Zero]] in the first place. [[spoiler:Zero even acknowledges and [[AlasPoorVillain mourns him]] for this after [[{{Patricide}} killing him]].]] |
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| 168 | [[AC: Films -- Animated]] |
| 169 | * Lady Tremaine from the 1950 Disney cinematic version of ''WesternAnimation/{{Cinderella}}'' is certainly evil, but she cares for her daughters (who she still abuses, like Cinderella) and wants the best social position for both. It is acknowledged surprisingly easily for such an evil character (even though she never marks her concern, just acts on it). |
| 170 | |
| 171 | [[AC: {{Film}}]] |
| 172 | * Rodmilla de Gent from ''Film/EverAfter'' is certainly evil, but she cares for her eldest daughter and wants the best social position possible for her, while not abusing her other daughter in a different way than when she insults her... There are hints that she was abused by her mother and misses her husband. |
| 173 | * ''Film/CharlieAndTheChocolateFactory'' gives us Wonka's dentist father who was so obsessed with teeth that he didn't care about Willy's feelings and part of his development was reconciling with his estranged son. |
| 174 | |
| 175 | [[AC: {{Fairy Tale}}s]] |
| 176 | * The WickedStepmother from ''Literature/{{Cinderella}}'' is very evil to Cinderella, and undoubtedly has a completely negative effect on her life. However, she wants the best for her daughters, who are described as ugly but, for one of them, not irredeemable and sometimes considerate to the heroine. |
| 177 | * The enchantress from ''Literature/{{Rapunzel}}'' is very hostile to the young girl's undeserving lover, who is her PrinceCharming, and locks her daughter away. Other than that, she is a loving and good mother, and a very responsible person for the two thirds of the fairy tale. Then, she abandons her daughter in the desert and inflicts a painful revenge on her lover. |
| 178 | * The magician queen mother of the first version of "Literature/SnowWhite" reported by the Brothers Grimm could be this, as she sincerely desired a child. |
| 179 | |
| 180 | [[AC: {{Literature}}]] |
| 181 | * Emperor Varenechibel IV of ''Literature/TheGoblinEmperor'' is a reactionary jerkass who thinks very little of his daughters and granddaughters. He also freely sends people who irritate him to confinement in far-off country estates - protagonist Maia, the emperor's youngest son, has spent his entire life up until age 18 essentially under house arrest, neglected and all but forgotten about. This is done for no real reason other than the emperor regretting his arranged marriage to Maia's mother and not wanting to have any reminders of that around him. However, Varenechibel is also universally agreed to have stopped the notorious personal corruption of his own father and grandfather, does generally try to serve the interests of the realm, and while not above acts of petty cruelty towards people that annoy him doesn't appear to take pleasure in it. |
| 182 | * The daughter who [[{{Pride}} Sir]] [[{{Narcissist}} Walter]] [[LackOfEmpathy Eliott]] from ''Literature/{{Persuasion}}'' loves the most is the one who looks and acts like him. He puts down and neglects the daughter who looks like his dead wife, never brings her emotional stability, and also participates in postponing her wedding for seven years (long story). He doubles as a {{Hypocrite}} as, while extremely proud of his rank and looks, he is ready to marry a woman without wealth and looks while he would never let his daughters consider this lack of highly-valued qualities suitable for a husband. |
| 183 | * In ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'', Catelyn's sister, Lysa Tully, loves her only son, Robert "Sweetrobin" Arryn, and is overprotective of him, given that she suffers several miscarriages and was able to give birth to her son, despite his poor health. [[spoiler:Lysa's overprotectiveness results in her poisoning her own husband, Jon Arryn, when Littlefinger tells her that that Jon Arryn planned to send Robin away. However, poisoning her husband is part of Littlefinger's plan to sow discord between the Starks and the Lannisters, which results in the War of the Five Kings]]. |
| 184 | |
| 185 | [[AC: LiveActionTV]] |
| 186 | * In ''Series/GameOfThrones'', the TV adaptation of ''A Song Of Ice and Fire'', several of the Type IV parents receive AdaptationalHeroism, making them a little more sympathetic. One example would be Cersei Lannister, who doesn't care of Joffrey's behavior in the books. In the show, she's actually aware of the horrible things that Joffrey does and does not approve of them, which makes her a tragic character. Her KickTheDog moments from the book (such as ordering the deaths of Robert's bastard children and attempting to have her [[TheUnfavorite brother Tyrion]] killed during the Battle of Blackwater) are given to Joffrey. [[spoiler:After Joffrey dies of poison]], Cersei becomes concerned for the safety of her younger children, Myrcella and Tommen. |
| 187 | ** In contrast, Stannis Baratheon receives an AdaptationalVillainy but he loves his daughter, Shireen, and does everything he can to cure her greyscale. When this fails, he refuses to send her to the Doom of Valryia. But in times of desperation when the Boltons get the best of him, Stannis has no choice but [[spoiler:to agree to allow Melisandre to burn Shireen alive to appease the Lord of Light in hopes it will allow him to defeat the Boltons. However, half of his army abandons him as a result and Stannis is defeated by the Boltons, leaving Stannis deeply grieved over the loss of his daughter and his wife]]. |
| 188 | * ''Series/BlackMirror'' [[Recap/BlackMirrorArkAngel S04E02: ArkAngel]]. The mother's intentions were good, but she crossed several lines invading her daughter's privacy, drugging her without her knowledge, etc... |
| 189 | |
| 190 | [[AC: VideoGames]] |
| 191 | * In ''VideoGame/HollowKnight'': The Pale King and White Lady were King and Queen of Hallownest, with the Pale King ousting the previous ruler of bugkind in Hallownest, the Radiance, by essentially replacing her as the object of worship and physical God of Hallownest. The Radiance, enraged at being forgotten, forced her way into the dreams of the populace, and her rage manifested as a malignant infection that drives the infected mad and aggressive. Seeing this threat to his kingdom, and unable to find a solution, the Pale King became desperate and decided on a 'cruel' plan - [[spoiler: Killing thousands of his own children to have them reanimated with Void as Vessels, which could then contain and seal the Radiance.]] The exact details of what he did are not known, however from context clues in the game, it is likely that [[spoiler:the Queen spread her 'seeds' or left her eggs in the Abyss. Their spawn then died in the Abyss, and Shades from the Void became infused into their dead shells, taking their shape and purpose and becoming Vessels. These Vessels then competed with each other to crawl out of the Abyss by instinctively going towards the only source of light at the top of the Abyss drop. This light may have been from the Pale King himself, standing at the top of the Abyss and watching as the Vessels struggled towards him. The Vessels that failed to make it to the top fell down to the bottom of the Abyss, their shells cracking on impact and releasing their Shades, but now with no shells to give them purpose.]] This continued until the entire base of the Abyss is [[spoiler:literally covered in thousands of broken bugshells, with aggressive lost Shades occasionally forming and dissipating.]] After getting the 'perfect' Vessel he wanted, the Pale King sealed the 'refuse and regret' away and refused to return to the Abyss or face those remaining Vessels ever again. Both parents were not entirely heartless, the Pale King was more of a WellIntentionedExtremist and felt remorse but reasoned there "was no cost too great" in sacrificing his spawn for the sake of preserving the Kingdom and his subjects. The White Lady felt great shame for her part in the Vessel's creation, and despite her "voracious desire" to keep breeding, had herself physically bound to prevent herself from ever birthing more spawn as a kind of penance. Ironically however, it is because the King was not entirely heartless and [[spoiler:bonded with the original Hollow Knight and tarnished it with an "[[GrewBeyondTheirProgramming idea instilled]]"]] that doomed the plan, making all the sacrifices pointless. |
| 192 | |
| 193 | [[AC: VisualNovel]] |
| 194 | * ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry'': Eva Ushiromiya loves her son George, but she's very picky about who he dates, since she's prepping him to become the next head of the Ushiromiya family. Unfortunately for her, George chooses Shannon, the family's "furniture" (servant). In Episode 6, George reveals that he's going to marry Shannon no matter what and it pisses his mother off which makes her turn into Eva-Beatrice in order to beat him into submission with magic. There's also Episode 4 where Eva survived the Rokkenjima massacre and adopted her niece, Ange, whom she mistreated out of grief over losing her husband and son. Eva also refuses to tell Ange the truth about the massacre. However, as revealed in Episode 7, it turns out Eva's withholding of information is deliberate [[spoiler:because Ange's parents (particularly Kyrie) are said to be the culprits of the massacre and Eva is trying to protect her from the AwfulTruth though this is due to Bernkastel's manipulation to make Ange hate her aunt. In the manga adaptation of Episode 8, Eva recognized her failure of not loving her niece because of her issues]]. |
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| 196 | [[AC: {{Webcomics}}]] |
| 197 | * Jason's father in ''Webcomic/SomethingPositive'' was a Type III. He was a psychiatrist who performed experiments on his children and literally tested how much they loved him. As in with multiple choice tests. The fandom had no qualms about Jason putting him down with a single punch the first time he appeared in the comic. |
| 198 | * Quain'tana in ''Webcomic/{{Drowtales}}'' probably falls here, since while she is a ''horribly'' abusive parent whose many misdeeds include letting one of her daughters be abused by her soldiers, and who is implied as ''ordering'' her to be raped [[spoiler:to try and conceive an heir after she became infertile, and later resorting to taking said daughter's child to raise as her own]], she's not pure evil, and her early life as a street rat with no parents of her own is implied to be the reason she has no idea how to raise her own children. Given that the setting also has GreyAndGreyMorality she's still also one of the more heroic characters whose goals, mainly tearing down the caste system and uplifting the common people, are noble and sympathetic. |
| 199 | |
| 200 | [[AC: WebVideo]] |
| 201 | * ''WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic's'' parents only stay in Type III because he can remember a few good moments and still love them despite portraying them as monsters when he was little. |
| 202 | |
| 203 | [[AC: WesternAnimation]] |
| 204 | * ''WesternAnimation/GoofTroop'' has Pete, who is consistently portrayed as being a bad person, not only but ''especially'' in regards to his parenting -- a strong contrast against Goofy's more loving approach. He is TheChewToy who suffers LaserGuidedKarma on a regular basis, while his son, PJ, lives in circumstances that lend themselves entirely to our sympathy. Even on this PG show, at best Pete's parenting is narcissistic and bullying. In other circumstances it is manipulative and threatening. And sometimes his treatment of PJ verges on actual physical abuse. There are some hints throughout the series that Pete loves his son but just can't show it right and he does have ''very rare'' moments where he will PetTheDog. Still, one of the subplots in [[WesternAnimation/AGoofyMovie the first movie]] involved the message "Pete's parenting advice is bad!" and PJ goes through massive CharacterDevelopment and [[EarnYourHappyEnding gets a happy ending]] in the second movie. Keep in mind that we are happy for him because he's ''left home and has a nice girlfriend.'' |
| 205 | * [[WesternAnimation/{{Archer}} Malory Archer]]'s questionable parenting techniques are often shown to be cruel, and have done long-term damage to her son Sterling. |
| 206 | * Don Wei of ''WesternAnimation/ObanStarRacers'' became upset when his wife died in a racing accident. He took his only daughter, Eva, and abandoned her in a boarding school with an abusive dean because she looked too much like his deceased wife, and never bothered contacting her even once. He then went on to become an abusive boss at his company. When Eva escaped from the boarding school and met her father, ''he didn't recognize her.'' Eva actually impressed her dad with her mechanic skills, and took on an alias, Molly, so she could participate in the upcoming Great Race of Ōban. Later, when she revealed who she was to her dad, she absolutely hammered home how bad a person he had been. |
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| 208 | [[/folder]] |
| 209 | |
| 210 | [[folder:Type IV: That made you a monster]] |
| 211 | |
| 212 | These are the lowest of the low among fictional parents, the worst cases of {{Evil Matriarch}}s and {{Archnemesis Dad}}s. These people are often described as so irresponsible or self-centered that their good sides do not even succeed in making them canonical {{Anti Villain}}s. Many of them are either pure {{Jerkass}}es or worse, treating their children or the children in their care ''horribly''. |
| 213 | |
| 214 | Writing about {{Anti Villain}}s, this is often where WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds parents end up. |
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| 216 | |
| 217 | [[AC: {{Anime}} and {{Manga}}]] |
| 218 | * ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'': Both of Ranma's Parents are Type IV, despite being PlayedForLaughs |
| 219 | ** Genma Saotome is a type IV. He raised Ranma to only respect martial arts prowess and have no concept of how to deal with girls. But it is his infamous training methods, especially the Cat-Fist, which make him a lousy parent. |
| 220 | ** Ranma's mother, Nodoka Saotome, is arguably worse in some aspects. While she isn't as harsh when she interacts with Ranma, due to a contract she made with Genma, if Ranma isn't manly enough in her eyes, she will ''kill Ranma and Genma'' via {{Seppuku}}, and seems ready to draw her katana at any hint of Ranma being unmanly. |
| 221 | * In ''Manga/SoulEater'', Medusa's behaviour towards [[TheWoobie Crona]], whom she barely treated as anything but a test subject, is this. |
| 222 | * In ''Anime/SpeedGrapher'', Shinzen underfeeds, slaps, belittles, and pretty much pimps Kagura to Suitengu, as revenge because [[spoiler: Kagura's father ran out on them when she was pregnant]]. |
| 223 | * ''Manga/HayateTheCombatButler's'' parents fulfill Type IV as they cross the MoralEventHorizon by selling their son's organs to the frigging {{Yakuza}}. Their abusiveness was originally PlayedForLaughs. |
| 224 | * In the TV series of ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', Precia Testarossa whips Fate when she fails to do well enough on her quest for Jewel Seeds, and when it's revealed that Fate was actually a clone of Precia's dead daughter Alicia, whom Precia wants to revive with Fate's efforts, Precia denounces Fate as worthless and laughs off Fate's telling her that even if she doesn't consider Fate her daughter, Fate will consider Precia her mother. |
| 225 | * ''Anime/KillLaKill'''s [[BigBad Ragyo Kiryuin]] is hardly acknowledged as another human being, primarily due to her horrible and [[ParentalIncest downright]] [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil creepy]] treatment of her daughter Satsuki, and because [[spoiler:[[TransHumanTreachery she's a Life Fiber hybrid who chose to embrace the evil alien side.]]]] And that's even before we learn [[spoiler:what she did to her ''other'' daughter Ryuko -- or what she does to her when she gets her hands on her]]. |
| 226 | * ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'': Infamously, Shou Tucker, the Sewing-Life Alchemist. Both his wife and daughter are turned into mere fodder for his alchemical experiments. |
| 227 | * ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'': |
| 228 | ** After his wife's death, Gendo Ikari became obsessed in getting her back and sent their son, Shinji, away. Ten years later he summoned his son... to pilot a giant robot and fight alien monsters. In the ''End of Evangelion'' Gendo admits he avoided his son because he felt unworthy of being a parent and feared he would only do a bad job and mess up Shinji by raising him, and therefore reasoned that his son would ultimately be better off without him in his life. |
| 229 | ** Gendo at least had a (bad) excuse, but Asuka's father is even worse. When his wife got crazy and was committed he begun an affair with his wife's doctor... where his three-year-old daughter could hear them. Did he care? Not at all. When Asuka was four she found her mother's corpse hanging from the ceiling. Did he care? Not at all. He married his mistress and more or less left his daughter to her own devices. |
| 230 | * ''Franchise/CodeGeass''. Emperor Charles di Britannia is a SocialDarwinist who didn't answer his son's question about his wife's death and sent him and Nunnally to Japan which he invaded later on, causing Lelouch to start his rebellion against the Britannian Empire. However, [[spoiler:it's revealed that Charles sent his children there in order to protect them from his older and immortal brother, V.V., who is Marianne's killer, though she escaped death thanks to her Geass which allowed her to reside in Anya's body. And his invasion of Japan was to secure the entrance to the Sword of Akasha where he and Marianne can make a world without lies. But Charles and Marianne go back to Type IV because they don't care that their actions resulted in a bloody and needless war and they abandoned their children and never considered their feelings on the matter. C.C. even tells them that the only love they really have is [[ItsAllAboutMe for themselves]].]] |
| 231 | * In ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', Reiner Braun's mother is apparently responsible for all the suffering in his life, [[spoiler:as well as everyone who's died because of her son's actions]]. Apparently wanting to get back at her lover and improve her own lot in life, she manipulates her son into [[spoiler:joining the Warrior unit and becoming host to the Armored Titan, which gives him 13 years to live]], simply by saying that if he does so, he'll be reunited with his father. Reiner realizes too late that his father wants nothing to do with him. |
| 232 | * ''Manga/JuJutsuKaisen'' has [[spoiler: [[DiabolicalMastermind Kenjaku]], an AncientEvil sorcerer who [[BodySurf hijacks the bodies of other people]]. As Noritoshi Kano, he raped an innocent women for several grisly experiments, creating the curses known as the Death Paintings, who he later uses as pawns. Later in the modern day, he hijacks the body of Kaori Itadori, resulting in the birth of series protagonist Yuji Itadori, purely as a vessal for the King of Curses, Sukuna. He also puts his children in several dangerous situations, like putting Yuji through both the Shibuya Incident and the Culling Game, and both times he reunites with Choso, the eldest Death Painting, he tries to kill him, and in general, treats his children like how he treats everyone else; [[TheSociopath as pawns to use in his schemes]].]] |
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| 235 | * Frollo from ''WesternAnimation/{{The Hunchback of Notre Dame|Disney}}'' is this to Quasimodo, who he terrifies and manipulates. He accidentally murdered Quasi's mother and tried to murder Quasimodo himself at the beginning of the movie, but took him home because he feared damnation. Frollo is more than ready to kill Quasimodo at the end of the movie. |
| 236 | * Snow White's stepmother from Disney's ''WesternAnimation/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs'' qualifies, as she makes Snow White work as a servant, is jealous of her beauty, and acts on said jealousy for a considerable amount of time even before hurting her directly physically. |
| 237 | * In ''WesternAnimation/{{Coraline}}'', the Other Mother is abusive and locks up children's souls in a secret place, but you could argue that the parental role is a facade anyways. |
| 238 | * Mother Gothel in ''WesternAnimation/{{Tangled}}'' is evil and abusive, and wants to be eternally young more than anything. To this end, she manipulates and {{gaslight|ing}}s Rapunzel, inculcating paranoia and an inferiority complex. She is in type IV just like her fairy tale counterpart. Even her apparent PetTheDog moments are deeply ironic -- like saying "I love you" to Rapunzel's ''hair'' instead of Rapunzel herself. |
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| 240 | [[AC: {{Fanfiction}}]] |
| 241 | * In ''Fanfic/WhiteDevilOfTheMoon'' Precia outdoes herself by crossing a line that she never crossed in [[Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha canon]]. [[KickTheMoralityPet She whips her biological daughter Alicia]], whose death drove her to grief-induced madness and villainy, and whom she successfully revived in this fic, when Alicia tries to stop her from whipping Fate. [[MoralEventHorizon This act]] helps Fate realize just what a monster Precia is, [[SelfMadeOrphan so Fate kills Precia]]. |
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| 243 | [[AC: Film]] |
| 244 | * ''Film/FiveNightsAtFreddys2023'' has [[spoiler: [[Characters/FiveNightsAtFreddysWilliamAfton William Afton]], a SerialKiller who murders children, who also has a child of his own, in his daughter, Vanessa. Afton psychologically and verbally abuses Vanessa, forcing her to cover up and be complacent to his crimes. What really pushes Afton here is the climax of the movie, when Vanessa stands up to him, he stabs her in the gut, attempting to kill her for her insolence]]. |
| 245 | * ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2'' gives us [[spoiler:Ego, the Living Planet, who is Peter "Star-Lord" Quill's biological father. At first, he seemed to be a cool dad and he and his son bonded so quickly after years of being separated. Turns out it's not the case: he wanted to use Peter's Celestial powers for his Assimilation plot to replace life with himself and killed all of his children who turned out to be failures for not having any Celestial powers. It also turns out that he is responsible for the death of Peter's mother, Meredith, by giving her the brain tumor despite claiming that he really loved her but his love for her distracted his plans. Then, he destroys Peter's walkman which was Meredith's last connection to her son. Peter didn't take what his father had done very well, which makes Yondu right about Ego: He is a jackass]]. |
| 246 | * ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol3'' has the [[EvilutionaryBiologist High Evolutionary]], the creator of Rocket Raccoon, the Sovereign, and several other species and creatures. The High Evolutionary presents himself as a benevolent creator, but this facade is quickly destroyed when it's revealed he uplifts animals into intelligence via painful and torturous experiments. His delusional, impossibly high standards for "perfection" cause him to abuse and lash out at his creations, which he usually locks in dirty cages. And whenever a species or society he creates fails him, he destroys the planet and the entire population just to start over again. |
| 247 | * ''Film/{{Hulk}}'' has David Banner, the biological father of Bruce "Krenzler" Banner. He wanted to push the limit of humanity by experimenting on himself, which resulted in his son contracting a "disease". When his son was young, he killed his wife Edith in front of his own son. He was imprisoned for thirty years and grew a BeardOfSorrow. As he left jail, he was provoking his son and those who have met him and claimed he never did anything wrong. He tested on himself and was able to absorb everything he touches. He claimed that Bruce isn't his son but his essence is. His existence is the reason why the Hulk exists. |
| 248 | * ''Film/TheShining'': In contrast to his [[Literature/TheShining literary]] equivalent that sits at a type II, Jack Torrance is retooled into a type IV here. Besides breaking his arm, it's heavily implied that before he got to the Overlook he kept Wendy and Danny in a state of terror in order to control them, his tender moments towards Danny are replaced with Wendy doing said activities, and his decision to kill them is a result of finding them inconvenient after being convinced to do so after the Overlook guides him to it. |
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| 251 | * Terry Pratchett's ''Literature/TheTruth'' has an example of a Type IV parent in William de Worde's father. Snobbish, distant, cruel, and outright racist, he [[spoiler:turns out to be the main villain when it is discovered that he engineered and led the plot to frame Lord Vetinari for embezzlement and attempted murder.]] |
| 252 | * In ''Literature/AgnesGrey'', the pupils' parents are this trope. Not because they abuse them, but because, for most of them, unlike Agnes' supportive, loving and heroic parents with whom they contrast, they couldn't care less about what their children do. This is one of Agnes' biggest issues, as she must deal with {{Spoiled Brat}}s or manipulative people at best and ''[[EnfantTerrible enfants terribles]]'' at worst, while having all the duties of a parent and almost none of the rights and honours of the function. |
| 253 | * In the world of ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'', many parents from noble families consider their children political pawns to expand their power and prestige. One example is Tywin Lannister, who is more focused in making his House the most powerful and fearful in all of Westeros through such methods as forcing his children into unwanted, politically-motivated marriages. Also, he hates his dwarf son Tyrion for the death of his wife (Tyrion's mother) in childbirth, his dwarfism, and shaming the Lannister name due to his whoremongering and drunken antics. However, the worst thing that Tywin does to Tyrion is having his men gang-rape his wife, Tysha, and ''forcing'' him to participate. He also forces his other son Jaime to lie to Tyrion that Tysha was a whore. Though he's disappointed in how his three children turned out, [[NeverMyFault Tywin doesn't ever blame himself for it.]] |
| 254 | ** Cersei is a horrible parent, too, given how she lets [[TheCaligula Joffrey]] do whatever he wants (such as abusing his bride-to-be Sansa Stark, ordering the deaths of those who defied him and having their heads displayed on the castle walls, [[spoiler:ordering Ned Stark's execution and instigating a war with the North]], etc.) and is very disappointed that his little brother Tommen isn't like him when he tries to stand up for himself. |
| 255 | ** Randyll Tarly is worse than Tywin in that he [[OffingTheOffspring threatens to arrange for his son, Samwell Tarly, to die]] in a HuntingAccident unless Samwell joins the Night's Watch and forfeits his right to his inheritance, all because Randyll is [[WhyCouldntYouBeDifferent disappointed with how his son turned out]] -- Samwell loves books, reading, and food, and hates hunting, fighting and blood. |
| 256 | * ''Literature/{{Carrie}}'': Margaret White is a ridiculously abusive [[TheFundamentalist religious nutcase]] who likes to lock Carrie in her horrible "prayer closet" whenever she does something "sinful", including simply ''having her first period''. The book version is the worst in this regard, as it says she sometimes locks Carrie in there for days at a time, and we get a [[SarcasmMode lovely]] flashback where Carrie goes to a summer camp despite her mother's wishes and is bullied so badly (including almost being drowned), that she comes home with her eyes red and swollen from crying. Margaret [[KickTheDog tells her she deserves it because]] [[InsaneTrollLogic summer camps are evil,]] and then locks [[TheWoobie poor Carrie]] in the closet again. |
| 257 | * In ''Literature/HarryPotter'', Vernon Dursley hates Harry for what he is and treats him like dung. When the Hogwarts invitation arrived for Harry, Vernon did all his might to prevent him from touching it until Hagrid intervenes, It gets worse in the second book where he locks up all of Harry's wizarding stuff and after Harry received a warning from the Ministry of Magic due to Dobby's meddling, Vernon locks him up in his room with full intent to keep him from returning to Hogwarts. He gets civil to his nephew later on with one rule which is not mentioning about magic to anyone. Then in the fifth book, he attempted to kick Harry out of the house upon learning that Voldemort is back to kill him until Dumbledore's Howler came to remind him. Though he is one of the most despised characters in the series, the only thing that prevents him from being a fully blown monster is his love for his wife and son, Petunia and Dudley. Though he and his wife were also terrible parents toward Dudley in a different way, spoiling and indulging him, never punishing him for anything, and never raising him to be a good person. In the sixth book, Dumbledore points out that what they've done to Dudley is actually worse than what they've done to Harry. |
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| 260 | * ''Series/VeronicaMars'': |
| 261 | ** Aaron Echolls is this. He would routinely beat Logan. He also cheated on his wife with several other women, [[spoiler: including Logan's girlfriend who he groomed and later murdered]]. |
| 262 | ** The Mannings are almost as bad as Aaron. As overzealous religious fundamentalists they would regularly psychologically abuse their children. Even going as far as to [[spoiler: lock their youngest, Grace, in a closet and force her to fill entire notebooks with the phrase "The path of God is paved with righteousness."]] |
| 263 | * ''Series/{{Grimm}}'' has a special example. Giving TheScrappy AbusiveParents rarely creates audience sympathy, and can cause cries of SympatheticSue. But Adalind Schade, who appeared like a shallow ManipulativeBastard for seventeen episodes, is an exception to this rule. What she does is mostly supervised by her mom, Catherine. She physically and emotionally abuses her and flirts with her daughter's FetishizedAbuser while encouraging Adalind to pursue him because he's powerful and she's got evil plans to carry out. When [[YouHaveFailedMe Adalind isn't being efficient enough]], Catherine throws her out, and almost shouts: "You're DefiledForever, geddit?". Later on, Adalind keeps audience sympathy even amongst the fans of the ship [[spoiler: she apparently sunk.]] |
| 264 | * In ''Series/OnceUponATime'', Regina's mother abused her physically and emotionally, tried to make her a GoldDigger, and finally [[spoiler: used the same heart spell than Regina on her fiance]]. There are only hints about her having a tragic backstory [[spoiler: which are finally revealed to be a bit exxagerated (she was just poor and humiliated)]], so, if they aren't further explored, the writers' treatment will be this. As of season 2, episode 9, she tried to rip her daughter's heart out after learning that Regina wanted her hurt. This serves to contrast Cora/Regina, since Regina does a lot of sacrifices for her son. |
| 265 | ** As of 2x16 [[spoiler: Cora does love her daughter, but a spell prevented her from feeling it properly for most of her life. When she is freed and feels it she says that her daughter would have been enough, even without power.]] |
| 266 | * ''Series/{{Riverdale}}'': Honestly, if there was a Type V, the Blossoms would be this. They start out seeming to be the perfect definition of Type IV, then we learn [[spoiler: Clifford literally killed his own son]]. |
| 267 | * In ''Series/SomewhereBoy'': Steve throughout most of season 1 is a Type IV since even if he kept his son locked up for all his life you could make the argument he cared for him. By the Last Episode of season 1 he quickly slides into a Type V when [[spoiler: Danny discovers his dad was lying about the outside world having monsters that might kill him, so he decides to kill him in his sleep, when Danny gives a good fight and refuses to be killed, he kills himself instead in front of his own son.]] |
| 268 | [[AC:VisualNovels]] |
| 269 | * Dear God, ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry'' has the some of the worst parents ever. Kinzo Ushiromiya treats his entire family as pawns in order to summon Beatrice and treats his children, who are already adults, like shit. Before that, [[spoiler:he imprisoned his illegitimate daughter and raped her because she bore the physical appearance of his first love]]. |
| 270 | ** But that award goes to his daughter, Rosa, who is very abusive to her own daughter, Maria. Her worst actions are in Episode 1 and Episode 4 where she slapped Maria hard for [[BerserkButton saying "Uu-uu-uu!"]] and [[KickTheDog tears up her favorite doll, Sakutaro]]. That part in Episode 4 [[LaserGuidedKarma rips her]] [[HoistByHisOwnPetard back]] [[CruelAndUnusualDeath though]]. |
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| 273 | * Relius Clover of ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' series. He pretty much sees any human being as a possible live specimen for his mad research, his family included, and has no qualms into snatching their soul away to put them in an inanimate doll (so they become animated) and having them serve as his research project or weapon. The complete one is made of his wife, the incomplete one is made of his daughter, and he left it for his son Carl to finish, completely traumatizing the little boy and making him hate the man. And when the boy has the gall to call him out? Relius just either nonchalantly attempts to kill him ([[MyFriendsAndZoidberg and the resident buxom doctor who calls out his 'awesome' parenting skill]]) or just shoves him the extent of his mad research, knowing that he'd pass out (in which case he'd probably move in for the kill if uninterrupted). |
| 274 | * ''VideoGame/{{Tekken}}'': Heihachi Mishima threw his son, Kazuya, into a ravine. Apparently, Kazuya came back alive, defeated his father and [[HoistByHisOwnPetard tossed him into the same ravine]]. Of course, Heihachi came back very pissed that he threw Kazuya into a volcano. [[BigScrewedUpFamily And that's the first glimpse of the Mishima family dynamics]]. |
| 275 | ** Apparently, Kazuya doesn't win the "Father of the Year" award either since he's willing to harm his own son, Jin Kazama. Granted, the Mishima family is cursed with the Devil Gene and Kazuya is very open in accepting his heritage as it makes him stronger. |
| 276 | * ''Franchise/MassEffect'': According to Miranda Lawson, her father is a MadScientist who desires to create the perfect heir for his dynasty and control them. Later on, Miranda left her father and went to Cerberus while she placed her sister into a foster family to keep her safe from him. In ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'', we finally get to meet the guy, and Henry Lawson turns out to be one of the worst human beings you have ever met [[spoiler:where he disguised his research facility as a refugee camp and subjected the refugees to indoctrination which resulted in them turning into husks just to find a way to control the Reapers with mixed results]]. In contrast to other members of Cerberus who wanted the best for humanity, Henry only cares about himself and is willing to kill his own daughters, such that [[spoiler:Miranda sending his ass out a window if you manage to save Oriana]] is hugely satisfying. |
| 277 | * ''VideoGame/Borderlands2'' has Handsome Jack, who turned out to be the father of [[spoiler:Angel, who turned out to be a Siren, forcibly held captive by him ''as a living battery'', a horrendous process that causes her great pain through the use of so much Eridium that she has to have it in order to live. Jack has a very twisted way of loving his daughter despite the fact that she's secretly helping the Vault Hunters to free her from his control. After you're forced to MercyKill her, Jack gets livid that he orders a bounty on your head for killing his daughter and wants you dead. Though Angel herself didn't really think highly of him for what he did to her: her last words were: "Dad, I have to tell you something... you're an asshole."]] |
| 278 | * Virtually all of the parents of the Warriors of Hope in ''VideoGame/DanganronpaAnotherEpisodeUltraDespairGirls'' abused them to the point at which they [[spoiler:except for Monaca, who was manipulating them,]] became suicidal, as well as willing to kill all adults [[spoiler:with a little encouragement from [[BigBad Junko Enoshima]].]] Masaru's father physically abused him and forced him to buy alcohol for him even though the only possible way for Masaru to do so was by stealing it. Jataro's mother [[ParentalNeglect neglected]] and verbally abused him to the point at which he's happy if people hate him, simply because they're paying attention to him. Kotoko's father forced her and her mother into prostitution [[CastingCouch to advance her acting career]]. Nagisa's parents used him as a test subject [[EducationMama to see how much one could study before breaking]] as part of a twisted experiment for Hope's Peak Academy. Monaca's father and brother physically abused her for being an [[BastardBastard illegitimate child]] [[spoiler:and while she manipulated them into mass-producing the Monokumas that the Warriors used to take over the town, they were greedy and incompetent enough to let her]], which makes them even worse. All of them perish in the kids' uprising, and [[AssholeVictim no one feels much pity for them]]. |
| 279 | * Lord Harkon of ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' expansion ''Dawnguard'' gets this spot. He's a thoroughly nasty vampire lord who allowed the Daedric Lord of Rape and Domination, Molag Bal, to have his way with both his wife and his daughter in order to make them vampires, and then became obsessed with a prophecy to blot out the sun, to the point that he sealed his daughter in darkness for at least a thousand years for trying to defy him, and drove his wife to hide out in the Soul Cairn just to get away from him. And then when he sees his daughter, Serana, again, all he gives a damn about is whether or not she has the Elder Scroll he needs to make the prophecy a reality. And he doesn't even give a damn about Serana at all, only about her blood which can be used to blot out the sun, which he tries to kill her for at the end of the Dawnguard storyline. |
| 280 | * In a pivotal moment in the history of the town of ''Franchise/SilentHill'', Dahlia Gillespie set her seven year old daughter Alessa on fire as part of a ritual to impregnate her with some kind of god/demon entity, and then proceeded to keep her alive in agony with full body burns for seven years while she incubated it. |
| 281 | * Rip Blazkowicz, BJ's father who we meet in ''VideoGame/{{Wolfenstein}} The New Colossus'', is a racist, abusive asshole who terrorized his Jewish wife (who he married solely for her business connections) and son, beating the two of them, forbidding them from interacting with other races, treating them like dirt, and even forces BJ to shoot his own dog after it attacked him after he hit his wife. If BJ refuses, he does it himself, calling his son weak. Once the Nazis take over, he happily sells out his neighbors and friends to them and even his own wife once she calls him out for it. BJ confronts him years later and slaughters him without flinching. |
| 282 | * Mother from ''VideoGame/WildArms1''. If your idea of being a loving parent involves [[spoiler: forcing your newborn son to watch his home world burn as you fly off to the next world you plan to destroy then forcing him to become an {{Omnicidal Maniac}} like yourself by ''eating him alive to control what he does'']], you definitely belong here. |
| 283 | * ''{{Franchise/Pokemon}}'': |
| 284 | ** ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'': [[spoiler: [[TheManBehindTheMan Ghetsis Harmonia Gropius]] is the true leader of Team Plasma and the adoptive father of N, a boy with the miraculous gift of being able to communicate with Pokemon, and uses it for his ambitions to TakeOverTheWorld. For years, he gaslights and manipulates N to make him Team Plasma's PuppetKing, using him to convince people to release their Pokemon, so that no one can stand up to Ghetsis when he tries to rule the world. His Pokemon team is also suspiciously well made to counter N's team, all but stating he was going to [[OffingTheOffspring kill N]] when [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness he was of no use to him anymore]]. He gets even worse in [[VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2 the sequel]], where he attempts to kill both the player and N by having the legendary Pokemon Kyurem freeze them, and when offered the chance to reconcile by N, Ghetsis flies into a mad rage, calling N a monster and a "freak without a human heart".]] |
| 285 | ** ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'': [[spoiler: [[BitchInSheepsClothing Lusamine]] is the CEO of the Aether Foundation and the controlling mother of Lillie and Gladion. After the disappearance of her husband Mohn due to Ultra Wormholes, Lusamine became obsessed with Ultra Beasts, the other-worldly Pokemon that came from these wormholes. Her obsession got to the point where she cared about the Ultra Beasts more than her own children, and would force Lillie and Gladion into doing whatever she wanted, while also verbally and psychologically abusing them. At the climax of the game, Lusamine merges with the Ultra Beast Nihilego, and seemingly tries to attack both the player and Lillie.]] |
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| 288 | * ''WebAnimation/HelluvaBoss'': In Moxxie's flashbacks, Crimson is an abusive father who forced Moxxie to become a seasoned killer at a young age, killed his wife for trying to protect Moxxie, and then neglected his son once his mother was out of the picture unless he needed someone shot. Fast forward to present day, Crimson is a homophobic bigot who thinks that being bi and being gay are the same thing and that all gay/bi people are obsessed with sex including his own son (who is bisexual) and wants to break up Moxxie's loving marriage with Millie to force him to marry his sleezy ex-boyfriend at gun-point. |
| 289 | * In the first episode of ''WebAnimation/PrettyBlood'', Rinny tortures her daughter, Nappy, to death. Rinny [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown beat her]], [[ForcedToWatch made her look at her dad's mutilated corpse]], [[NauseaFuel forced her into the torn-open stomach of the corpse]], [[MouthTapedShut taped her mouth shut when she tried begging her to stop]], injected an empty syringe into her back and stabbed her leg with it, painfully hung her up with hooks, [[EyeScream stabbed her in the eye with the syringe]], and then recorded it and just sat there, getting ''sexually aroused'' to the whole thing as her daughter screams and cries in pain. [[https://youtu.be/iSWY1q6wUbQ?si=A6KE0b5dQBVpcXMq A non-canon]] BoxingEpisode proves Rinny did not change. After brutally beating a yellow cat Malino in a boxing match, Rinny is then met with Nappy again. Nappy, upon realizing it's her mother, begins crying TearsOfJoy and gets a CoolDownHug from Rinny. Unfortunately, that doesn't last long, as Rinny punches her to the ground afterwards. Rinny slowly approaches Nappy, who begs for mercy, but is [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown given a brutal beatdown]] anyways. After Rinny lands several blows to the stomach, the last blow eventually causes Nappy to [[VomitIndiscretionShot throw up]]. She then handcuffs Nappy to a chair, tapes her mouth shut ''again'', and slowly beats her to death until she's nothing but a bloody mess. |
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| 292 | * ''{{WesternAnimation/Amphibia}}'' has [[spoiler: King Aldrich, and the Leviathan Family as a whole. A BigScrewedUpFamily of despotic MultiversalConquerors who assimilate themselves into [[HiveMind the Core]] to become Immortal. For millenium, the Leviathan ancestors and current king would Gaslight and manipulate their heirs to become psychopathic warlords like them, prominently displayed with Aldrich's manipulation of his son Andrias. When Andrias accidentally loses the Calamity Box, Aldrich and the other Leviathans guilt-trip Andrias for the next 1000 years to make him their obedient servant, and when he breaks down in regret and despair in ''All In'', Aldrich resorts to a painful MindRape to force Andrias to keep fighting for them. In the series finale, Andrias finally has enough of his family's abuse, and helps the Calamity Trio in destroying the Core.]] |
| 293 | * Fire Lord Ozai in ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' permanently disfigured his thirteen year old son Zuko by means of burning a good chunk of his face off and banished him on an indefinite SnipeHunt to capture a being somewhere between an OldMaster and a PhysicalGod that had not been seen in a century for... speaking out of turn then refusing to fight him when a ritual duel was demanded over it, ultimately becoming the BigBad of the series. |
| 294 | * Yakone in ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' forced his sons to go through harsh training, verbally abused them, made them inflict abuse on helpless animals and tried to get them to hurt each other, all so he could raise them to be {{Tykebomb}}s for his revenge. [[spoiler:And it ''WORKED'']]. |
| 295 | * Dr. Mar Londo in ''WesternAnimation/LegionOfSuperHeroes2006'' experimented on his unwilling son, turning him into a werewolf-like creature. He wanted to create a monster (by using a human as a template rather than an animal like his previous experiments) to serve him as a general for his army for galactic domination. To make matters worse he thinks his son should be ''thanking'' him for this. |
| 296 | * ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'': Season 2 pushed Gabriel Agreste over this line: He was already a controlling, emotionally neglectful, and generally unpleasant individual who barely acknowledged his son Adrien's existence except when he was useful, but then it turned out [[spoiler:that he was the BigBad.]] Any lingering audience sympathy for Gabriel due to [[WellIntentionedExtremist mitigating circumstances]] was largely wiped out by [[Recap/MiraculousLadybugS02E11Gorizilla "Gorizilla"]], after [[spoiler: his latest scheme very nearly got Adrien killed.]] |
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