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Editing reflexive pronoun to account for Grant Morrison being non-binary


* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: [[http://toobusythinkingboutcomics.blogspot.com/2010/07/hes-not-super-hero-hes-not-even-very.html At least one critic]] has the opinion that Zenith is simply an average person with average morality. The reason why he's judged so harshly by the reader (and Creator/GrantMorrison himself) is that he doesn't have superheroic qualities.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: [[http://toobusythinkingboutcomics.blogspot.com/2010/07/hes-not-super-hero-hes-not-even-very.html At least one critic]] has the opinion that Zenith is simply an average person with average morality. The reason why he's judged so harshly by the reader (and Creator/GrantMorrison himself) themselves) is that he doesn't have superheroic qualities.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Zenith is supposed to be spoiled brat who the audience looks down upon for not wanting to be a superhero. However, some viewers see him as an average person forced into dangerous situations that he is ill-equipped to handle.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Zenith is supposed to be a spoiled brat who the audience looks down upon for not wanting to be a superhero. However, some viewers see him as an average person forced into dangerous situations that he is ill-equipped to handle.
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Not YMMV


* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: ''Zenith'' has been out of print for almost twenty years, and, because of complicated legal issues surrounding the copyrights, will probably stay that way for a while. The original printings of the trade paperback collections currently go up for hundreds of dollars on Internet auction sites (the original issues of 2000 A.D. are somewhat cheaper)
** Although as of May 2013, 2000AD have announced that they will finally be reprinting Zenith! Only 100,000 copies will be done however.
** Phases I through III are currently (May 2015) available from online retailers or the 2000AD app as an e-comic. The [[ScrewedByTheLawyers legal issues]] surrounding Phase IV were more complex as it has never been available in collected form. However they appear to have been sorted and a provisional release date of 14 July 2015 is listed on Amazon.
** By 2014 legal issues had been resolved, in the UK at least. All IV Phases were released through 2014-2015 as a series of handsomely bound hardback editions.
* LaterInstallmentWeirdness: As the story moved from the 80s to the 90s, and 2000AD introduced colour printing, Steve Yowell's evocative monochrome artwork of Phases I-III suddenly became colour in Phase IV.
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* SeasonalRot: The ideas in Phase IV are as good as ever, but it seems Grant Morrison may have grown tired of the small business of ''story-telling''. Exacerbated by the LaterInstallmentWeirdness above.

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* SeasonalRot: The ideas in Phase IV are as good as ever, but it seems Grant Morrison may have grown tired of the small business of ''story-telling''. Exacerbated by the LaterInstallmentWeirdness above.above.
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Zenith is supposed to be spoiled brat who the audience looks down upon for not wanting to be a superhero. However, some viewers see him as an average person forced into dangerous situations that he is ill-equipped to handle.
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Zero context; if you think this character qualifies, please bring it up in the cleanup thread in the long-term projects forum.


* MagnificentBastard: Peter St John.
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*CompleteMonster: The Maximan from Alternative World 23 requests that his fellow heroes assist him to stop the "Many-Angled Ones", or [[Franchise/CthulhuMythos Lloigor]], from invading reality, but his plan is a costly one: to destroy several entire universes to create a "flaw" in reality to keep the horrors out. In truth, Maximan has betrayed humanity and joined the Lloigor and is having the heroes destroy universes to correct a flaw and allow the Lloigor access to consume all that lives. When discovered, Maximan attempts to destroy another universe and kill the heroes trying to stop him, [[AGodAmI thinking only of his own coming divinity at the side of his new masters]].

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more tropes - yay!


** Phases I through III are currently (May 2015) available from online retailers or the 200AD app as an e-comic. The [[ScrewedByTheLawyers legal issues]] surrounding Phase IV were more complex as it has never been available in collected form. However they appear to have been sorted and a provisional release date of 14 July 2015 is listed on Amazon.

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** Phases I through III are currently (May 2015) available from online retailers or the 200AD 2000AD app as an e-comic. The [[ScrewedByTheLawyers legal issues]] surrounding Phase IV were more complex as it has never been available in collected form. However they appear to have been sorted and a provisional release date of 14 July 2015 is listed on Amazon.



* MagnificentBastard: Peter St John.

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* LaterInstallmentWeirdness: As the story moved from the 80s to the 90s, and 2000AD introduced colour printing, Steve Yowell's evocative monochrome artwork of Phases I-III suddenly became colour in Phase IV.
* MagnificentBastard: Peter St John.John.
* SeasonalRot: The ideas in Phase IV are as good as ever, but it seems Grant Morrison may have grown tired of the small business of ''story-telling''. Exacerbated by the LaterInstallmentWeirdness above.
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Update on legal shennanigans and availability

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** By 2014 legal issues had been resolved, in the UK at least. All IV Phases were released through 2014-2015 as a series of handsomely bound hardback editions.
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** Phase I is currently available from online retailers as an e-comic, with Phase II to follow in December.

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** Phase Phases I is through III are currently (May 2015) available from online retailers or the 200AD app as an e-comic, with e-comic. The [[ScrewedByTheLawyers legal issues]] surrounding Phase II IV were more complex as it has never been available in collected form. However they appear to follow in December.have been sorted and a provisional release date of 14 July 2015 is listed on Amazon.
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To differentiate it from the fanfic

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Moved \"Keep Circulating...\" from Main, added info regarding availability of e-comic.

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* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: ''Zenith'' has been out of print for almost twenty years, and, because of complicated legal issues surrounding the copyrights, will probably stay that way for a while. The original printings of the trade paperback collections currently go up for hundreds of dollars on Internet auction sites (the original issues of 2000 A.D. are somewhat cheaper)
** Although as of May 2013, 2000AD have announced that they will finally be reprinting Zenith! Only 100,000 copies will be done however.
** Phase I is currently available from online retailers as an e-comic, with Phase II to follow in December.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: [[http://toobusythinkingboutcomics.blogspot.com/2010/07/hes-not-super-hero-hes-not-even-very.html At least one critic]] has the opinion that Zenith is simply an average person with average morality. The reason why he's judged so harshly by the reader (and GrantMorrison himself) is that he doesn't have superheroic qualities.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: [[http://toobusythinkingboutcomics.blogspot.com/2010/07/hes-not-super-hero-hes-not-even-very.html At least one critic]] has the opinion that Zenith is simply an average person with average morality. The reason why he's judged so harshly by the reader (and GrantMorrison Creator/GrantMorrison himself) is that he doesn't have superheroic qualities.
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* CompleteMonster: The Lloigor, who annihilate entire worlds for fun.

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