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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: The first two ''Film/XMen'' movies have largely been overshadowed in recent years by more bombastic fair like ''Film/TheAvengers'', but at the time, the [[Film/XMen1 first movie]] was a surprise hit that proved vital in convincing Hollywood that {{superhero}}es could be viable again after ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'' had [[GenreKiller killed the genre several years earlier]]. People tend to forget that alongside ''Film/{{Blade}}'', the original ''X-Men'' films were massively influential in terms of tone and costuming, arguably becoming the TropeCodifier for MovieSuperheroesWearBlack.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: The first two ''Film/XMen'' movies have largely been overshadowed in recent years by more bombastic fair like ''Film/TheAvengers'', ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', but at the time, the [[Film/XMen1 first movie]] was a surprise hit that proved vital in convincing Hollywood that {{superhero}}es could be viable again after ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'' had [[GenreKiller killed the genre several years earlier]]. People tend to forget that alongside ''Film/{{Blade}}'', the original ''X-Men'' films were massively influential in terms of tone and costuming, arguably becoming the TropeCodifier for MovieSuperheroesWearBlack.
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** Anyone who is a fan of both [=McAvoy=]'s Xavier in ''Film/XMenFirstClass''[=/=]''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' and Will Graham from ''Series/{{Hannibal}}'' will notice the striking similarities between the two characters. (You can read a more detailed comparison in the ReferencedBy section in the [[Trivia/XMenFilmSeries Trivia tab]], but for the sake of this entry, it's enough to know that Will is a [[TheEmpath "pure empath"]] who is physically and emotionally scarred by his abusive love-hate relationship with the murderous Hannibal Lecter--heck, Hugh Dancy and Creator/JamesMcAvoy even look somewhat alike.) The ''Film/XMen'' fandom coined the term "Mutant husbands" to describe Charles' and Erik's homoerotic friendship, so all Cherik shippers who watch ''Series/{{Hannibal}}'' burst out laughing when Freddie Lounds called Graham and Lecter "Murder husbands."

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** Anyone who is a fan of both [=McAvoy=]'s Xavier in ''Film/XMenFirstClass''[=/=]''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' and Will Graham from ''Series/{{Hannibal}}'' will notice the striking similarities between the two characters. (You can read a more detailed comparison in the ReferencedBy section in the [[Trivia/XMenFilmSeries Trivia tab]], but for the sake of this entry, it's enough to know that Will is a [[TheEmpath "pure empath"]] who is physically and emotionally scarred by his abusive love-hate relationship with the murderous Hannibal Lecter--heck, Hugh Dancy and Creator/JamesMcAvoy even look somewhat alike.) The ''Film/XMen'' fandom coined the term "Mutant husbands" to describe Charles' and Erik's homoerotic friendship, so all Cherik shippers who watch had watched the ''Series/{{Hannibal}}'' episode "And the Woman Clothed with the Sun..." burst out laughing when Freddie Lounds called Graham and Lecter "Murder husbands."
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** Anyone who is a fan of both [=McAvoy=]'s Xavier in ''Film/XMenFirstClass''[=/=]''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' and Will Graham from ''Series/{{Hannibal}}'' will notice the striking similarities between the two characters. (You can read a more detailed comparison in the ReferencedBy section in the [[Trivia/XMenFilmSeries Trivia tab]], but for the sake of this entry, it's enough to know that Will is a [[TheEmpath "pure empath"]] who is physically and emotionally scarred by his abusive love-hate relationship with the murderous Hannibal Lecter--heck, Hugh Dancy and Creator/JamesMcAvoy even look somewhat alike.) The ''Film/XMen'' fandom coined the term "Mutant husbands" to described Charles' and Erik's homoerotic friendship, so all Cherik shippers who watch ''Series/{{Hannibal}}'' burst out laughing when Freddie Lounds called Graham and Lecter "Murder husbands."

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** Anyone who is a fan of both [=McAvoy=]'s Xavier in ''Film/XMenFirstClass''[=/=]''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' and Will Graham from ''Series/{{Hannibal}}'' will notice the striking similarities between the two characters. (You can read a more detailed comparison in the ReferencedBy section in the [[Trivia/XMenFilmSeries Trivia tab]], but for the sake of this entry, it's enough to know that Will is a [[TheEmpath "pure empath"]] who is physically and emotionally scarred by his abusive love-hate relationship with the murderous Hannibal Lecter--heck, Hugh Dancy and Creator/JamesMcAvoy even look somewhat alike.) The ''Film/XMen'' fandom coined the term "Mutant husbands" to described describe Charles' and Erik's homoerotic friendship, so all Cherik shippers who watch ''Series/{{Hannibal}}'' burst out laughing when Freddie Lounds called Graham and Lecter "Murder husbands."

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** One of the guards present during Magneto's breakout in ''X2'' looks a lot like Michael Fassbender.

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** One of the guards present during Magneto's breakout in ''X2'' looks a lot like Michael Fassbender.Creator/MichaelFassbender.



** It's hilarious that Michael Fassbender and James [=McAvoy=] were chosen to play the past versions of Magneto and Xavier. Before they were famous they both starred in separate episodes of ''Series/BandOfBrothers'' - a drama in World War II.

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** It's hilarious that Michael Fassbender Creator/MichaelFassbender and James [=McAvoy=] Creator/JamesMcAvoy were chosen to play the past versions of Magneto and Xavier. Before they were famous famous, they both starred in separate episodes of ''Series/BandOfBrothers'' - a ''Series/BandOfBrothers''--a drama set in World War II.UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.
** Anyone who is a fan of both [=McAvoy=]'s Xavier in ''Film/XMenFirstClass''[=/=]''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' and Will Graham from ''Series/{{Hannibal}}'' will notice the striking similarities between the two characters. (You can read a more detailed comparison in the ReferencedBy section in the [[Trivia/XMenFilmSeries Trivia tab]], but for the sake of this entry, it's enough to know that Will is a [[TheEmpath "pure empath"]] who is physically and emotionally scarred by his abusive love-hate relationship with the murderous Hannibal Lecter--heck, Hugh Dancy and Creator/JamesMcAvoy even look somewhat alike.) The ''Film/XMen'' fandom coined the term "Mutant husbands" to described Charles' and Erik's homoerotic friendship, so all Cherik shippers who watch ''Series/{{Hannibal}}'' burst out laughing when Freddie Lounds called Graham and Lecter "Murder husbands."
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** Also, up till then, superhero films tended to be star-driven vehicles in order to avoid a perceived comic-book ghetto; you needed a $20-million headliner like Jack Nicholson, Val Kilmer, or Wesley Snipes to pull in a mass audience, and ones that didn't like ''Film/ThePhantom'' and ''Film/TheRocketeer'' got destroyed at the box office. Here, the two biggest under-50 names were Halle Berry and Anna Paquin, both supporting characters (and both ''women''!) and two of the three central leads were played by aged Shakespearean actors, while the other was an American unknown in Hugh Jackman. Nowadays, especially in the TurnOfTheMillennium and TheNewTens movie landscape where star vehicles have given way to ensemble pieces driven by premise and spectacle, superhero films have no qualms about casting [[Film/{{Thor}} unknown actors]] or [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy ones who had never headlined before]], knowing that the license will do the selling and the movies will propel the actors to further heights instead of the other way around.

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** Also, up till then, superhero films tended to be star-driven vehicles in order to avoid a perceived comic-book ghetto; you needed a $20-million headliner like Jack Nicholson, Val Kilmer, or Wesley Snipes to pull in a mass audience, and ones that didn't like ''Film/ThePhantom'' and ''Film/TheRocketeer'' got destroyed at the box office. Here, the two biggest under-50 names were Halle Berry and Anna Paquin, both supporting characters (and both ''women''!) ''women!'') and two of the three central leads were played by aged Shakespearean actors, while the other was an American unknown in Hugh Jackman. Nowadays, especially in the TurnOfTheMillennium and TheNewTens movie landscape where star vehicles have given way to ensemble pieces driven by premise and spectacle, superhero films have no qualms about casting [[Film/{{Thor}} unknown actors]] or [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy ones who had never headlined before]], knowing that the license will do the selling and the movies will propel the actors to further heights instead of the other way around.
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* StrangledByTheRedString: The supposed 'great love' between Logan and Jean Grey can be hard to take seriously, since they only knew each other for about five days, ''at the most.'' The majority of the first film's plot takes place over roughly two or three days, then Logan goes off to Canada to find out about his past; they spend a day or two more together in the second film before she dies, and then most of their interaction in the third film is her crazily beating the crap out of him before he kills her (again) to set her free. Plus, in the first two films ''Jean was already in a long-term relationship with Scott.'' [[SarcasmMode Truly, a love story for the ages.]]

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* StrangledByTheRedString: The supposed 'great love' between Logan and Jean Grey can be is hard to take seriously, since they only knew each other for about five days, ''at the most.'' The majority of the first film's plot takes place over roughly two or three days, then Logan goes off to Canada to find out about his past; they spend a day or two more together in each other's company in the second film as they prepare to stop the villain, before she dies, dies; and then most of their interaction in the third film is her crazily beating the crap out of him before he kills her (again) to set her free. Plus, in the first two films ''Jean was already in a long-term relationship with Scott.'' [[SarcasmMode Truly, a love story for the ages.]]
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* Narm: Mystique kidnapping Senator Kelly is a serious scene but her using her feet to threateningly grab his face causes the scene to lose some impact. Kelly looks like he is more disgusted at having a blue mutant's bare feet on his face and Mystique looks more like a mistress dominating a slave with a foot fetish rather than an experienced agent kidnapping a politician.

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* Narm: {{Narm}}: Mystique kidnapping Senator Kelly is a serious scene but her using her feet to threateningly grab his face causes the scene to lose some impact. Kelly looks like he is more disgusted at having a blue mutant's bare feet on his face and Mystique looks more like a mistress dominating a slave with a foot fetish rather than an experienced agent kidnapping a politician.



* StrangledByTheRedString: The supposed 'great love' between Logan and Jean Grey can be hard to take seriously, since they only knew each other for about five days, ''at the most.'' The majority of the first film's plot takes place over roughly two or three days, then Logan goes off to Canada to find out about his past; they spend a day or two more together in the second film before she dies, and then most of their interaction in the third film is her crazily beating the crap out of him before he kills her (again) to set her free. Plus, in the first two films ''Jean was already in a long-term relationship with Scott.'' Truly, a love story for the ages.

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* StrangledByTheRedString: The supposed 'great love' between Logan and Jean Grey can be hard to take seriously, since they only knew each other for about five days, ''at the most.'' The majority of the first film's plot takes place over roughly two or three days, then Logan goes off to Canada to find out about his past; they spend a day or two more together in the second film before she dies, and then most of their interaction in the third film is her crazily beating the crap out of him before he kills her (again) to set her free. Plus, in the first two films ''Jean was already in a long-term relationship with Scott.'' [[SarcasmMode Truly, a love story for the ages. ages.]]



** The latest victim of this seems to be the role of Gambit, [[http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/05/13/channing-tatum-confirmed-as-gambit having been Darrin'd from]] Taylor Kitsch, who previously portrayed the character in ''Film/XMenOriginsWolverine'', to Creator/ChanningTatum. A common complaint is that, aside of Tatum's questionable acting chops [[note]]as opposed to just being [[MrFanservice eye candy for the ladies]][[/note]], he looks and sounds nothing like the character in question. And even if the role was going to go to another actor, fans seem to prefer a more convincing one for the part like [[Series/{{Lost}} Josh Holloway]]. Probably one of the most negatively preemptive examples of this trope for the series so far, as all that we know is that Tatum will play the character in future movies.

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** The latest victim of this seems to be the role of Gambit, [[http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/05/13/channing-tatum-confirmed-as-gambit having been Darrin'd from]] Taylor Kitsch, who previously portrayed the character in ''Film/XMenOriginsWolverine'', to Creator/ChanningTatum. A common complaint is that, aside of Tatum's questionable acting chops [[note]]as opposed to just being [[MrFanservice eye candy for the ladies]][[/note]], he looks and sounds nothing like the character in question. And even if the role was going to go to another actor, fans seem to prefer a more convincing one for the part like [[Series/{{Lost}} Josh Holloway]].Holloway]] or French actor Gaspard Ulliel. Probably one of the most negatively preemptive examples of this trope for the series so far, as all that we know is that Tatum will play the character in future movies.
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** Main/HalleBerry's performance as Storm has been incredibly controversial since the first film was released back in 2000. Originally, director Bryan Singer originally had written Storm with Main/AngelaBassett in mind for the role, who turned it down. Bassett's refusal caused Storm's role to be completely rewritten, and then Berry joined the film. Although it has been infamously attributed to Berry demanding more screentime for all three films, many put the blame for Storm's characterization solely on her, without realizing that Singer originally did not even want the character to be in the film at all, and thus, the character was quickly sidelined. There are also those that take issue with Storm's skin color (as both Halle and the recently cast Alexandra Shipp have light skin) but [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement that will not be discussed in detail here.]]
** Main/JenniferLawrence's performance as Mystique, particularly when compared to Rebecca Romjin's more nostalgic performance. Essentially, the casting for all younger versions of the characters has been a major source of controversy, continuing with the recent castings for ''Film/XMenApocalypse''.
** The characterization of Rogue throughout all of the films, in contrast to her comic counterpart. Main/AnnaPaquin ended up throwing some subtle shade at the screenwriters with [[https://twitter.com/AnnaPaquin/status/589581154799484928/ this tweet in response to being asked if she would return to the films.]]
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* StrangledByTheRedString: The supposed 'great love' between Logan and Jean Grey can be hard to take seriously, since they only knew each other for about five days, ''at the most.'' The first film takes place over roughly two or three days, then Logan goes off to Canada to find out about his past; they spend a day or two more together in the second film before she dies, and then most of their interaction in the third film is her crazily beating the crap out of him before he kills her (again) to set her free. Plus, in the first two films ''Jean was already in a long-term relationship with Scott.'' Truly, a love story for the ages.

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* StrangledByTheRedString: The supposed 'great love' between Logan and Jean Grey can be hard to take seriously, since they only knew each other for about five days, ''at the most.'' The majority of the first film film's plot takes place over roughly two or three days, then Logan goes off to Canada to find out about his past; they spend a day or two more together in the second film before she dies, and then most of their interaction in the third film is her crazily beating the crap out of him before he kills her (again) to set her free. Plus, in the first two films ''Jean was already in a long-term relationship with Scott.'' Truly, a love story for the ages.
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* StrangledByTheRedString: The supposed 'great love' between Logan and Jean Grey can be hard to take seriously, since they only knew each other for about five days, ''at the most.'' The first film takes place over about two days, then Logan goes off to Canada to find out about his past; they spend a day or two more together in the second film before she dies, and then most of their interaction in the third film is her crazily beating the crap out of him before he kills her (again) to set her free. Plus, in the first two films ''Jean was already in a long-term relationship with Scott.'' Truly, a love story for the ages.

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* StrangledByTheRedString: The supposed 'great love' between Logan and Jean Grey can be hard to take seriously, since they only knew each other for about five days, ''at the most.'' The first film takes place over about roughly two or three days, then Logan goes off to Canada to find out about his past; they spend a day or two more together in the second film before she dies, and then most of their interaction in the third film is her crazily beating the crap out of him before he kills her (again) to set her free. Plus, in the first two films ''Jean was already in a long-term relationship with Scott.'' Truly, a love story for the ages.
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* StrangledByTheRedString: The supposed 'great love' between Logan and Jean Grey can be hard to take seriously, since they only knew each other for about five days, ''at the most.'' The first film takes place over about two days, then Logan goes off to Canada find out about his past; they spend a day or two more together in the second film before she dies, and then most of their interaction in the third film is her crazily beating the crap out of him before he kills her (again) to set her free. Truly, a love story for the ages.

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* StrangledByTheRedString: The supposed 'great love' between Logan and Jean Grey can be hard to take seriously, since they only knew each other for about five days, ''at the most.'' The first film takes place over about two days, then Logan goes off to Canada to find out about his past; they spend a day or two more together in the second film before she dies, and then most of their interaction in the third film is her crazily beating the crap out of him before he kills her (again) to set her free. Plus, in the first two films ''Jean was already in a long-term relationship with Scott.'' Truly, a love story for the ages.



** The villain in ''X2'' is so extremely anti-mutant that he would experiment on and enslave his own son to exterminate them all. In the process he enslaves another mutant to attack the president of the U.S., just so he can offer a target for the president to authorize an attack on. Before the strike, though, an objection is made that the target is a school. The villain responds sarcastically, "sure it is," showing x-ray imagery of a secret jet underneath the school's basketball court. A dispassionate observer should note, actually, that that is actually ''extremely'' suspicious. Normally schools don't have military-grade equipment hidden in their facility, and after all "schools" in some parts of the world have been used as recruiting centers/supply bases/et cetera by terrorist organizations before--both for the purpose of camouflage, and making attacks on them politically troublesome. The president then orders a non-lethal infiltration and capture mission, which from his position is ''entirely'' reasonable.
** Also, while Stryker lobotomizing his son is truly awful, from his point of view -- can you ''' ''blame'' ''' him? While he might not have meant to go that far, Jason still drove his own mother to kill herself in an extremely gruesome manner. And who's to say he wouldn't have done the same to other people? While it's sickening that Stryker kept him alive to use as a lab rat, you can still sympathize with his mutant hatred after hearing this story.

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** The villain Stryker in ''X2'' is so extremely anti-mutant that he would experiment on and enslave his own son to exterminate them all. In the process he enslaves another mutant to attack the president of the U.S., just so he can offer a target for the president to authorize an attack on. Before the strike, though, an objection is made that the target is a school. The villain responds sarcastically, "sure it is," showing x-ray imagery of a secret jet underneath the school's basketball court. A dispassionate observer should note, actually, that that is actually ''extremely'' suspicious. Normally schools don't have military-grade equipment hidden in their facility, and after all "schools" in some parts of the world have been used as recruiting centers/supply bases/et cetera by terrorist organizations before--both for the purpose of camouflage, and making attacks on them politically troublesome. The president then orders a non-lethal infiltration and capture mission, which from his position is ''entirely'' reasonable.
** Also, while Stryker lobotomizing his son is truly awful, from his point of view -- can you ''' ''blame'' ''' him? While he might not have meant to go that far, Jason still drove his own mother to kill herself in an extremely gruesome manner. And who's to say he wouldn't have intentionally done the same to other people? people, until it became second-nature? While it's sickening that Stryker kept him alive to use as a lab rat, you can still sympathize with his mutant hatred after hearing this story.

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* BaseBreaker:
** Main/HalleBerry's performance as Storm has been incredibly controversial since the first film was released back in 2000. Originally, director Bryan Singer originally had written Storm with Main/AngelaBassett in mind for the role, who turned it down. Bassett's refusal caused Storm's role to be completely rewritten, and then Berry joined the film. Although it has been infamously attributed to Berry demanding more screentime for all three films, many put the blame for Storm's characterization solely on her, without realizing that Singer originally did not even want the character to be in the film at all, and thus, the character was quickly sidelined. There are also those that take issue with Storm's skin color (as both Halle and the recently cast Alexandra Shipp have light skin) but [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement that will not be discussed in detail here.]]
** Main/JenniferLawrence's performance as Mystique, particularly when compared to Rebecca Romjin's more nostalgic performance. Essentially, the casting for all younger versions of the characters has been a major source of controversy, continuing with the recent castings for ''Film/XMenApocalypse''.
** The characterization of Rogue throughout all of the films, in contrast to her comic counterpart. Main/AnnaPaquin ended up throwing some subtle shade at the screenwriters with [[https://twitter.com/AnnaPaquin/status/589581154799484928/ this tweet in response to being asked if she would return to the films.]]



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** When Bobby informs Logan in ''Film/X2XMenUnited'' that there is no beer at the school, it's obviously because Professor X doesn't want to encourage underage drinking, but there is an additional reason for the alcohol-free environment. ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' reveals that Charles Xavier was a drunkard in between 1963 and 1973, so naturally his older, wiser self doesn't want to be tempted by drink and risk a relapse.

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** When Bobby informs Logan in ''Film/X2XMenUnited'' that there is no beer at the school, it's obviously because Professor X doesn't want to encourage underage drinking, but there is an additional reason for the alcohol-free environment. ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' reveals that Charles Xavier was a drunkard in between 1963 and 1973, so naturally his older, wiser self doesn't want to be tempted by drink and risk a relapse. Plus, if one of the students were to get drunk, a loss of control of their powers (or a misuse of them due to compromised judgment) could be more than slightly dangerous.
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* StrangledByTheRedString: The supposed 'great love' between Logan and Jean Grey can be hard to take seriously, since they only knew each other for a few days in the first film before he took off to find out about his past, spent a day or two more together in the second before she died, and spent most of the third film with her crazily beating the crap out of him before he killed her (again) to set her free. Truly, a love story for the ages.

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* StrangledByTheRedString: The supposed 'great love' between Logan and Jean Grey can be hard to take seriously, since they only knew each other for a few days in about five days, ''at the most.'' The first film before he took takes place over about two days, then Logan goes off to Canada find out about his past, spent past; they spend a day or two more together in the second film before she died, dies, and spent then most of their interaction in the third film with is her crazily beating the crap out of him before he killed kills her (again) to set her free. Truly, a love story for the ages.
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** And on the topic of female superheroes, here was a movie that not just featured multiple female heroes, but a movie where the female characters were not eye candy there for the designated girl fight. Storm, Rogue, Jean Grey, and Mystique, along with Lady Deathstrike in the sequel, were treated as equals in terms of deadly mutant skills, no overt sex appeal was on display aside from Mystique's appearance, and only fought male counterparts with no attention being called to it. Now, female superheroes in movies being treated as hero-driven without the usual female trappings (like relationships) are seen across multiple brands, although X-Men is still seen as a shining example of avoiding TheSmurfettePrinciple, something Marvel Studios [[Film/TheAvengers2012 still comes under fire for.]]

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** In the second movie, Bobby confessing to his parents about being a mutant is played very much like a coming out scene. Ian [=McKellen=] actually provided some coaching to make the comparison that much more realistic. In 2015 Iceman came out as gay in the comics.
** It's hilarious that Michael Fassbender and James [=McAvoy=] were chosen to play the past versions of Magneto and Xavier. Before they were famous they both starred in separate episodes of ''Series/BandOfBrothers'' - a drama in World War II.



** Someone ''must'' have been killed by Cerebro 2 affecting the whole world (people having surgery, in traffic, landing planes, etc.).

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** Someone ''must'' have been killed by Cerebro 2 affecting the whole world (people having surgery, in traffic, landing planes, etc.). Towards the end Professor X does mention something about "casualties on both sides" which could be a way of acknowledging this, but it is left ambiguous.
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** Also, up till then, superhero films tended to be star-driven vehicles in order to avoid a perceived comic-book ghetto; you needed a $20-million headliner like Jack Nicholson, Val Kilmer, or Wesley Snipes to pull in a mass audience, and ones that didn't like ''Film/ThePhantom'' and ''Film/TheRocketeer'' got destroyed at the box office. Here, the two biggest under-50 names were Halle Berry and Anna Paquin, both supporting characters (and both ''women''!) and two of the three central leads were played by aged Shakespearean actors, while the other was an American unknown in Hugh Jackman. Nowadays, especially in the TurnOfTheMillenium and TheNewTens movie landscape where star vehicles have given way to ensemble pieces driven by premise and spectacle, superhero films have no qualms about casting [[Film/{{Thor}} unknown actors]] or [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy ones who had never headlined before]], knowing that the license will do the selling and the movies will propel the actors to further heights instead of the other way around.

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** Also, up till then, superhero films tended to be star-driven vehicles in order to avoid a perceived comic-book ghetto; you needed a $20-million headliner like Jack Nicholson, Val Kilmer, or Wesley Snipes to pull in a mass audience, and ones that didn't like ''Film/ThePhantom'' and ''Film/TheRocketeer'' got destroyed at the box office. Here, the two biggest under-50 names were Halle Berry and Anna Paquin, both supporting characters (and both ''women''!) and two of the three central leads were played by aged Shakespearean actors, while the other was an American unknown in Hugh Jackman. Nowadays, especially in the TurnOfTheMillenium TurnOfTheMillennium and TheNewTens movie landscape where star vehicles have given way to ensemble pieces driven by premise and spectacle, superhero films have no qualms about casting [[Film/{{Thor}} unknown actors]] or [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy ones who had never headlined before]], knowing that the license will do the selling and the movies will propel the actors to further heights instead of the other way around.
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** Also, up till then, superhero films tended to be star-driven vehicles in order to avoid a perceived comic-book ghetto; you needed a $20-million headliner like Jack Nicholson, Val Kilmer, or Wesley Snipes to pull in a mass audience, and ones that didn't like ''Film/ThePhantom'' and ''Film/TheRocketeer'' got destroyed at the box office. Here, the two biggest under-50 names were Halle Berry and Anna Paquin, both supporting characters (and both ''women''!) and two of the three central leads were played by aged Shakespearean actors, while the other was an American unknown in Hugh Jackman. Nowadays, especially in TheNewTens movie landscape where star vehicles have given way to ensemble pieces driven by premise and spectacle, superhero films have no qualms about casting [[Film/{{Thor}} unknown actors]] or [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy ones who had never headlined before]], knowing that the license will do the selling and the movies will propel the actors to further heights instead of the other way around.

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** Also, up till then, superhero films tended to be star-driven vehicles in order to avoid a perceived comic-book ghetto; you needed a $20-million headliner like Jack Nicholson, Val Kilmer, or Wesley Snipes to pull in a mass audience, and ones that didn't like ''Film/ThePhantom'' and ''Film/TheRocketeer'' got destroyed at the box office. Here, the two biggest under-50 names were Halle Berry and Anna Paquin, both supporting characters (and both ''women''!) and two of the three central leads were played by aged Shakespearean actors, while the other was an American unknown in Hugh Jackman. Nowadays, especially in the TurnOfTheMillenium and TheNewTens movie landscape where star vehicles have given way to ensemble pieces driven by premise and spectacle, superhero films have no qualms about casting [[Film/{{Thor}} unknown actors]] or [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy ones who had never headlined before]], knowing that the license will do the selling and the movies will propel the actors to further heights instead of the other way around.
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** It first paved the way for a film like ''The Avengers'' to exist to begin with; before this movie, superhero films were either solo-driven or featured a main superhero with sidekicks. This film established the template of a true team dynamic; while there was a character that broke out from the pack like Wolverine here or Tony Stark in ''Avengers'', the group core was never lost and action sequences required the heroes to use their distinct powers in tandem, which was unheard of in a superhero film to that point.
** Also, up till then, superhero films tended to be star-driven vehicles in order to avoid a perceived comic-book ghetto; you needed a $20-million headliner like Jack Nicholson, Val Kilmer, or Wesley Snipes to pull in a mass audience, and ones that didn't like ''Film/ThePhantom'' and ''Film/TheRocketeer'' got destroyed at the box office. Here, the two biggest under-50 names were Halle Berry and Anna Paquin, both supporting characters (and both ''women''!) and two of the three central leads were played by aged Shakespearean actors, while the other was an American unknown in Hugh Jackman. Nowadays, especially in TheNewTens movie landscape where star vehicles have given way to ensemble pieces driven by premise and spectacle, superhero films have no qualms about casting [[Film/{{Thor}} unknown actors]] or [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy ones who had never headlined before]], knowing that the license will do the selling and the movies will propel the actors to further heights instead of the other way around.
** And on the topic of female superheroes, here was a movie that not just featured multiple female heroes, but a movie where the female characters were not eye candy there for the designated girl fight. Storm, Rogue, Jean Grey, and Mystique, along with Lady Deathstrike in the sequel, were treated as equals in terms of deadly mutant skills, no overt sex appeal was on display aside from Mystique's appearance, and only fought male counterparts with no attention being called to it. Now, female superheroes in movies being treated as hero-driven without the usual female trappings (like relationships) are seen across multiple brands, although X-Men is still seen as a shining example of avoiding TheSmurfettePrinciple, something Marvel Studios [[Film/TheAvengers2012 still comes under fire for.]]

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** Also, while Stryker lobotomizing his son is truly awful, from his point of view -- can you ''blame'' him? While he might not have meant to go that far, Jason still drove his mother to kill herself in an extremely gruesome manner. While it's sickening that Stryker kept him alive to use as a lab rat, you can still sympathize with his mutant hatred after hearing this story.

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* MemeticMutation: "Well, now they know, Bobby, just '''[[Disney/{{Frozen}} let it go]]'''." is what some fans like to say to Bobby Drake a.k.a. [[AnIcePerson Iceman]] regarding his interaction with his family, when they are shocked and uncomfortable about having a mutant son in ''Film/X2XMenUnited''.

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* MemeticMutation: Thanks to the release of ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'', fans like to say this about Bobby Drake, a.k.a. [[AnIcePerson Iceman]], regarding his interaction with his parents, who are rather shocked and uncomfortable about having a mutant son in ''Film/X2XMenUnited'': "Well, now they know, Bobby, just '''let it go'''."

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* MemeticMutation: Thanks to the release of ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'', "Well, now they know, Bobby, just '''[[Disney/{{Frozen}} let it go]]'''." is what some fans like to say this about to Bobby Drake, Drake a.k.a. [[AnIcePerson Iceman]], Iceman]] regarding his interaction with his parents, who family, when they are rather shocked and uncomfortable about having a mutant son in ''Film/X2XMenUnited'': "Well, now they know, Bobby, just '''let it go'''."''Film/X2XMenUnited''.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: See [[AwesomeMusic/XMen this page]].
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Par for the course when [[Film/X2XMenUnited Nightcrawler]] is involved.
* FanPreferredCouple: Logan/Rogue is much more popular than Logan/Jean or Bobby/Rogue, and it's actually the #1 couple of the original trilogy. (They have since been overshadowed by the Charles/Erik pairing after ''Film/XMenFirstClass''--just look at the [[http://archiveofourown.org/tags/Logan*s*Rogue%20(X-Men)/works difference]] in the sheer [[http://archiveofourown.org/tags/Erik%20Lehnsherr*s*Charles%20Xavier/works number]] of fanfics on ''Archive of Our Own'' for proof.) The shippers TookAThirdOption indeed.
* FridgeHorror:
** Think all the normal humans turned out fine because Cerebro was turned off before it could kill them all in ''X2''? Then think of what happened to all those people who were piloting aircraft, performing surgery, etc. during that time.
*** From the above, imagine any mutants who wanted to keep their powers secret, but had it blown because of the above event. Most people were likely unaware of what exactly going on, but a good deal will use the basis that some guy got hit first, but was fine while he and the other non-mutants were having issues. Afterward, they may use that as a basis to assume someone as a mutant.
** Think of how Raven went from just [[Film/XMenFirstClass wanting to be accepted and live a happy life with Charles]], to killing without remorse, even [[Film/XMen1 nearly killing her first and oldest friend]].
* HarsherInHindsight:
** In the first film, Mystique sabotages Cerebro to put Xavier into a coma, possibly with the intent of killing him. Since ''Film/XMenFirstClass'' and ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' part of the same continuity, this means Mystique tried to kill a man whom she grew up with and loved as a brother and did not part with on hateful terms -- and she did it all just to further an agenda.
*** FridgeBrilliance: As Xavier recovers on his own terms, Mystique may have specially designed the green stuff she injected into Cerebro to incapacitate him for a while and not kill him.
** It's rather cruel of Mystique not to warn Professor X in ''Film/X2XMenUnited'' that Stryker was planning on attacking the school. Although she and Xavier are estranged beyond repair by this point, you'd think that Mystique would still be concerned about the safety of fellow mutants (especially those who are children) even if she stopped caring about Charles like a brother.
** Now that we know from ''First Class'' how Erik's mother died and how [[spoiler:Charles became a paraplegic]], Magneto's contempt towards guns in ''Film/XMen1'' makes ''perfect'' sense.
** In ''First Class'', it initially seems odd that Charles wouldn't encourage Raven to pursue a formal education (she sardonically responds to Amy's "What do you study?" with "Waitressing"), but when you recall what Mystique had said to Senator Kelly in the first movie ("People like you were the reason I was afraid to go to school as a child"), then it becomes very clear that she and Charles were extremely fearful about the possibility that she might lose control of her power while in class.
** Professor X's line "Experimentation on mutants--it's not unheard of" in ''Film/XMen1'' becomes more chilling when you take into account Bolivar Trask's examination and dissection of mutants in ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast''. Xavier would be thinking more specifically of [[spoiler:Banshee's death and the torture Mystique endured before she managed to escape Trask Industries in the original timeline]].
** When Bobby informs Logan in ''Film/X2XMenUnited'' that there is no beer at the school, it's obviously because Professor X doesn't want to encourage underage drinking, but there is an additional reason for the alcohol-free environment. ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' reveals that Charles Xavier was a drunkard in between 1963 and 1973, so naturally his older, wiser self doesn't want to be tempted by drink and risk a relapse.
** A meta example: Hugh Jackman was diagnosed with skin cancer in 2013. Cancer is cell growth taken to dangerous and uncontrollable levels. [[HealingFactor Now consider what Hugh Jackman spends a lot of time doing as Wolverine...]] Also, cancer is caused by mutation.
** In ''Film/X2XMenUnited'', Deathstrike dies when Wolverine injects her with a load of liquid adamantium, and she falls with an audible clank. Come 2014 in ''Death of Wolverine'', [[spoiler: Logan gets spilled on by a vat of liquid adamantium, covering him from head to toe]]. It should also be noted that adamantium should be kept in an ''extremely hot and molten state'' to keep its liquid form.
* HeartwarmingInHindsight:
** In ''Film/X2XMenUnited'', an imprisoned Magneto warmly greets Professor X with, "Charles Xavier, have you come to rescue me?" As it turns out, Charles did indeed rescue Erik Lehnsherr from drowning in ''Film/XMenFirstClass'', and this is how their friendship began. Despite the danger Erik was in 1962, both men still look back on the memory with some fondness. ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' adds to this when Xavier, with the help of Wolverine, Quicksilver and Beast, bust out Magneto from an impenetrable Pentagon prison, although Xavier is understandably a little more reluctant this time around.
** The [[Film/XMen1 first movie]] has Professor X telling Logan, "I give you my word that I will use all my power to help you piece together what you've lost, and what you're looking for." Wolverine doesn't know it yet, but what he's ''truly'' looking for is ''right in front of him''. As ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' demonstrates, Xavier is the person who gives meaning to Logan's existence; the "master" to his "samurai," so to speak. This is especially true in the [[spoiler:AlternateTimeline, where Wolverine has settled down as a history teacher at Charles' school, and is genuinely happy--probably the happiest we've seen him in the entire film franchise]]. ''Days of Future Past'' makes it clear that it's Xavier--and not Jean Grey, as ''Film/TheWolverine'' [[UnreliableNarrator might have you believe]]--who is the most significant figure in Logan's life during his post-amnesia years.
* HilariousInHindsight:
** Magneto asks Wolverine "Once again, you think it's all about you." Who's the main figure on all of the movie posters besides ''Film/XMenFirstClass''?
** Back when Magneto and Professor X meet again for the first time in the first movie, Erik says "You sneaking around in here, Charles?" while invoking the PstandardPsychicPstance that Charles isn't even known for using... ''until First Class''.
** Erik playing with a bullet he's pushing into a policeman's forehead is a very similar to how he [[spoiler:killed Shaw with a coin]] back in 1962...
** Magneto's comment in the aforementioned scene that he doesn't think he can stop ''all'' of the bullets. Becomes incredibly amusing given how many missiles he managed to catch in ''First Class'', suspend in mid-air, then return back on their ''original'' trajectory.
** In the [[Film/XMen1 first movie]], Jean Grey tells Professor X that Logan's healing ability "makes his age impossible to determine. He could very well be older than you, Professor." She doesn't realize what a gigantic {{Understatement}} this is because both ''Film/XMenOriginsWolverine'' and ''Film/XMenFirstClass'' have established that Wolverine is about a ''century older'' than Xavier! (James Howlett was born in the early 1830s while Charles' birth year is the early 1930s.)
** The odd pairing of Azazel and Riptide as CoDragons, considering the ShipTease between the similarly-powered Nightcrawler and Storm in ''X2''.
** The first movie is widely considered as Creator/HughJackman and Creator/JamesMarsden's {{Star Making Role}}s -- but what's interesting is that [[RealMenWearPink Hugh was already an established star of stage and screen musicals]], while James would find newfound fame in [[Film/{{Enchanted}} musical]] [[Film/{{Hairspray}} roles]] ''after X-Men''.
*** Similarly, as Marsden's later roles tend to be more comedic and, at times, CrazyAwesome, its quite amusing to find him in later roles and know that he got started playing TheStoic Cyclops. Of course, his take on Cyclops ''does'' have more of a sense of humor then most versions.
** One of the guards present during Magneto's breakout in ''X2'' looks a lot like Michael Fassbender.
* InferredHolocaust:
** Someone ''must'' have been killed by Cerebro 2 affecting the whole world (people having surgery, in traffic, landing planes, etc.).
** Storm setting off a bunch of tornadoes in the New England countryside.
* JerkassWoobie: Magneto, given his tragic backstory of being sent to a concentration camp during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.
* LoveItOrHateIt: Among comic book fans, the film franchise as a whole has become this. One doesn't even need to look past This Very Wiki to find evidence of that.
%%* MagnificentBastard: Magneto
* MemeticMutation: Thanks to the release of ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'', fans like to say this about Bobby Drake, a.k.a. [[AnIcePerson Iceman]], regarding his interaction with his parents, who are rather shocked and uncomfortable about having a mutant son in ''Film/X2XMenUnited'': "Well, now they know, Bobby, just '''let it go'''."
* MoralEventHorizon:
** Stryker's plan to wipe out all mutants on the planet qualifies. For that matter, Magneto crosses the line when he is trusted with stopping this by the X-Men and does.... by reversing it to wipe out all ''humans'' on the planet, leaving his old friend Xavier to die in the process.
** In ''First Class'', Shaw killing Erik's mother to get him to unlock his mutant potential. It really colors his efforts to put mutants in charge in a very different light when you consider that he is willing to torment other mutants in order to achieve that end. He is also willing to kill mutants who stand in his way, despite saying that he won't harm his own kind.
*** Which translates to FridgeBrilliance in hindsight in the first ''X-Men'' film when Erik/Magneto uses the exact same methods by sacrificing Rogue for the greater good of all mutants. (Or, if you count the original script, [[spoiler: sacrificing Wolverine instead of Rogue for the same reasons.]])
* NightmareFuel: Senator Kelly's [[spoiler:death]]. Doubles as {{Squick}}.
* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight:
** The Brett Ratner-helmed ''X3'' is generally considered a step down from the first two movies, which were directed by Creator/BryanSinger. Amplified when Singer returned for ''Days of Future Past'', which was not only a critical and commercial smash, but also [[spoiler:undid all the plot damage done by ''X3'' via the plot's SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong AlternateTimeline, including reviving Cyclops and Jean from the dead.]]
** With the rise of the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, the opinion that Marvel Studios could make a better ''X-Men'' movie than 20th Century Fox could is gaining traction. However, of the [[ComicBook/XMen three]] [[ComicBook/FantasticFour film]] [[ComicBook/SpiderMan franchises]] that Marvel Studios does not own, the ''X-Men'' movies that have come out since the start of the Paramount/Disney SharedUniverse have been the most well-received and successful, leading to others arguing that the characters should stay with Fox.[[note]]Marvel Studios re-acquired the film rights to ''Spider-Man'' in February 2015 via sharing with Sony, leaving the only two properties that they don't own at Fox.[[/note]]
* PortmanteauCoupleName: "Rogan" for Rogue/Logan.
* RelationshipWritingFumble: Logan and Rogue, especially in the first film. They gave romantic vibes in their interactions, leading the viewer to think that they [[WillTheyOrWontThey would end up like that]]. It was a trick, apparently.
* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: The first two ''Film/XMen'' movies have largely been overshadowed in recent years by more bombastic fair like ''Film/TheAvengers'', but at the time, the [[Film/XMen1 first movie]] was a surprise hit that proved vital in convincing Hollywood that {{superhero}}es could be viable again after ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'' had [[GenreKiller killed the genre several years earlier]]. People tend to forget that alongside ''Film/{{Blade}}'', the original ''X-Men'' films were massively influential in terms of tone and costuming, arguably becoming the TropeCodifier for MovieSuperheroesWearBlack.
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Unfortunately, even more so than the source comics. Magneto and humans who want to try and control mutants both make far more convincing arguments for their positions than the X-Men and Xavier, who [[VillainsActHeroesReact never try to do anything to bridge the gap between the two species and spend their time keeping the status quo in check]].
** In ''X-Men'', Kelly specifically mentions [[MythologyGag a girl who can]] [[IntangibleMan walk through walls]], and asks "What's to stop her from walking right into a bank vault -- or the White House?" In the very next movie, a BrainwashedAndCrazy Nightcrawler is able to [[TeleportersAndTransporters teleport]] into the White House and kick the Secret Service's collective ass, proving Kelly right. In ''Days of Future Past'', Bolivar Trask tells Nixon that Mystique can impersonate anyone, and could use her power to turn into him, walk into the White House and order a nuclear strike. Once again, he's absolutely right.
** The villain in ''X2'' is so extremely anti-mutant that he would experiment on and enslave his own son to exterminate them all. In the process he enslaves another mutant to attack the president of the U.S., just so he can offer a target for the president to authorize an attack on. Before the strike, though, an objection is made that the target is a school. The villain responds sarcastically, "sure it is," showing x-ray imagery of a secret jet underneath the school's basketball court. A dispassionate observer should note, actually, that that is actually ''extremely'' suspicious. Normally schools don't have military-grade equipment hidden in their facility, and after all "schools" in some parts of the world have been used as recruiting centers/supply bases/et cetera by terrorist organizations before--both for the purpose of camouflage, and making attacks on them politically troublesome. The president then orders a non-lethal infiltration and capture mission, which from his position is ''entirely'' reasonable.
** Also, while Stryker lobotomizing his son is truly awful, from his point of view -- can you ''blame'' him? While he might not have meant to go that far, Jason still drove his mother to kill herself in an extremely gruesome manner. While it's sickening that Stryker kept him alive to use as a lab rat, you can still sympathize with his mutant hatred after hearing this story.
** Throughout the franchise, everything that Magneto warns Xavier about comes true. In ''Days of Future Past'' the BadFuture has gotten to the point of mutants and mutant sympathizers and potentials being rounded up and herded into internment camps in a scene very obviously based on the Holocaust, ''exactly the type of thing Magneto believed would happen''. In ''The Last Stand'', the mutant cure is weaponized in guns that shoot syringes of the cure and these guns are used to combat them, and in ''First Class'' the US and Soviets launch a barrage of missiles at the mutants, not caring that half of the ones present just stopped World War III. Most of Magneto's actions in the series after the first film are about launching ''counter-attacks'' after the humans make the first move against mutants.
* TearJerker: The death of Lady Deathstrike in ''X2''. When Wolverine starts pumping her full of adamantium we're cheering -- and then her eyes turn back to brown as she stares at him sadly, and we're reminded that she wasn't really a villain at all, she didn't deserve ''any'' of this. She's just a (probably) innocent woman who Stryker kidnapped, brainwashed and used to hurt people, and Wolverine clearly regrets having to kill her. There's a glimpse of her slowly coming to her senses earlier in the film and looking dazed before Stryker gives another dose of his controlling serum and back under his command.
* WTHCastingAgency:
** Hugh Jackman as Wolverine, but only to those who grew up on the comics and animated series. He's famous for being a 5'2" PintSizedPowerhouse, while Jackman is a 6'2" MrFanservice. He made up for it by totally owning the role.
** The latest victim of this seems to be the role of Gambit, [[http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/05/13/channing-tatum-confirmed-as-gambit having been Darrin'd from]] Taylor Kitsch, who previously portrayed the character in ''Film/XMenOriginsWolverine'', to Creator/ChanningTatum. A common complaint is that, aside of Tatum's questionable acting chops [[note]]as opposed to just being [[MrFanservice eye candy for the ladies]][[/note]], he looks and sounds nothing like the character in question. And even if the role was going to go to another actor, fans seem to prefer a more convincing one for the part like [[Series/{{Lost}} Josh Holloway]]. Probably one of the most negatively preemptive examples of this trope for the series so far, as all that we know is that Tatum will play the character in future movies.
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