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* MagnificentBastard: Jack Harper.
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Capitalization was fixed from YMMV.XCOM Second Contact to YMMV.X Com Second Contact. Null edit to update page.
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*** The most ironic part being that this is ''precisely'' the reason given by [[spoiler:Jack Harper (canon's Illusive Man)]] as to why [[spoiler:Cerberus]] effectively engineered the event. To paraphrase a direct quote, ''"...[[TheNeedsOfTheMany thousands have died so that billions will live]]."''
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** Considering that it worked to effectively end organized slavery in known space, and humanity agreed immediately afterwards to ratify a treaty to consider their use a crime against sapient life, it is somewhat understandable. State-sponsored terrorism does not make one innocent. Especially when the Hegemony has been doing slavery/slave raids in blatant violation of international law for centuries. Also, the Hegemony was stupid enough to push one of humanity's biggest and most traumatic BerserkButton's. The fact is, XCOM knows it was an atrocity, but hopefully something that would ultimately save far, far more lives in the long run by making a brutally effective statement that never needs to be made again. XCOM is extremely protective of humanity, understandably, and overkill is their standard response because of the horrors inflicted on them in the past.
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** Considering that it worked to effectively end organized slavery in known space, and humanity agreed immediately afterwards to ratify a treaty to consider their use a crime against sapient life, it is somewhat understandable. State-sponsored terrorism does not make one innocent. Especially when the Hegemony has been doing slavery/slave raids in blatant violation of international intergalactic law for centuries. Also, the Hegemony was stupid enough to push one of humanity's biggest and most traumatic BerserkButton's. The fact is, XCOM knows it was an atrocity, but hopefully something that would ultimately save far, far more lives in the long run by making a brutally effective statement that never needs to be made again. XCOM is extremely protective of humanity, understandably, and overkill is their standard response because of the horrors inflicted on them in the past.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Udina, full stop. Whereas in canon he was a Jerkass ObstructiveBureaucrat, in this story he's a [[MemeticBadass memetic troll]] whose antics have led to the AlternativeCharacterInterpretation above who actually ''believes'' Shepard's warnings about the Reapers. Growing up in a world where Humanity has already once fought its way out of extermination by its fingernails will do that.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Udina, full stop. Whereas in canon he was a Jerkass ObstructiveBureaucrat, in this story he's a [[MemeticBadass memetic troll]] whose antics have led to the AlternativeCharacterInterpretation above who actually ''believes'' Shepard's warnings about the Reapers. Growing up in a world where Humanity humanity has already once fought its way out of extermination by its bloodstained fingernails will do that.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Udina, full stop. Whereas in cannon he was a Jerkass ObstructiveBureaucrat, in this story he's a [[MemeticBadass memetic troll]] whose antics have led to the AlternativeCharacterInterpretation above who actually BELIEVES Shepard's warnings about the Reapers.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Udina, full stop. Whereas in cannon canon he was a Jerkass ObstructiveBureaucrat, in this story he's a [[MemeticBadass memetic troll]] whose antics have led to the AlternativeCharacterInterpretation above who actually BELIEVES ''believes'' Shepard's warnings about the Reapers.Reapers. Growing up in a world where Humanity has already once fought its way out of extermination by its fingernails will do that.
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** Considering that it worked to effectively end organized slavery in known space, and humanity agreed immediately afterwards to ratify a treaty to consider their use a crime against sapient life, it is somewhat understandable. State-sponsored terrorism does not make one innocent. Especially when the Hegemony has been doing slavery/slave raids in blatant violation of international law for centuries. Also, the Hegemony was stupid enough to push one of humanity's biggest and most traumatic BerserkButton's. The fact is, XCOM knows it was an atrocity, but hopefully something that would ultimately save far, far more lives in the long run by making a brutally effective statement that never needs to be made again. XCOM is extremely protective of humanity, understandably, and overkill is their standard response because of the horrors inflicted on them in the past.
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* MoralEventHorizon: The [[spoiler:chryssalid-drop on a Hegemony world got this reaction towards XCOM from a lot of readers.]] It really didn't help that the planet's involvement was limited to being the selling site for the slaves taken at Mindoir and that those who actually organized and conducted the raid [[spoiler:had been discreetly taken captive by XCOM operatives. So the strike itself basically did nothing except kill anyone there who most certainly had absolutely nothing to do with the actual raid (re: civilians and Hegemony military personnel).]]
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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: A few readers (at least on fanfiction.net) quit reading the story right when the plot begins following the MassEffect story believing it to be a [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot waste of a perfectly good plot]]. A bit of a shame when you consider what happens later into the story.
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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: A few readers (at least on fanfiction.net) quit reading the story right when the plot begins following the MassEffect ''Franchise/MassEffect'' story believing it to be a [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot waste of a perfectly good plot]]. A bit of a shame when you consider what happens later into the story.
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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: A few readers (at least on fanfiction.net) quit reading the story right when the plot begins following the MassEffect story believing it to be a [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot waste of a perfectly good plot]]. A bit of a shame when you consider what happens later into the story.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHearp: Udina, full stop. Whereas in cannon he was a Jerkass ObstructiveBureaucrat, in this story he's a [[MemeticBadass memetic troll]] whose antics have led to the AlternativeCharacterInterpretation above who actually BELIEVES Shepard's warnings about the Reapers.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHearp: RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Udina, full stop. Whereas in cannon he was a Jerkass ObstructiveBureaucrat, in this story he's a [[MemeticBadass memetic troll]] whose antics have led to the AlternativeCharacterInterpretation above who actually BELIEVES Shepard's warnings about the Reapers.
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* MagnificentBastard: Jack Harper.
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* MagnificentBastard: Jack Harper.Harper.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHearp: Udina, full stop. Whereas in cannon he was a Jerkass ObstructiveBureaucrat, in this story he's a [[MemeticBadass memetic troll]] whose antics have led to the AlternativeCharacterInterpretation above who actually BELIEVES Shepard's warnings about the Reapers.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHearp: Udina, full stop. Whereas in cannon he was a Jerkass ObstructiveBureaucrat, in this story he's a [[MemeticBadass memetic troll]] whose antics have led to the AlternativeCharacterInterpretation above who actually BELIEVES Shepard's warnings about the Reapers.
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A) Not YMMV and B) blatant trope misuse.
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* KarmaHoudini: Some readers did not feel that Shepard nearly killing Ashley Williams for saying that "Jack Harper had a point" and then getting nothing else but getting yelled at by Anderson was enough.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Fans suggest that Tevos resorted to drinking after spending 30 years of dealing with XCOM's shenanigans.
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* KarmaHoudini: Some readers did not feel that Shepard nearly killing Ashley Williams for saying that "Jack Harper had a point" and then getting nothing else but getting yelled at by Anderson was enough.
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This isn\'t actually YMMV. Moving.
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* KarmaHoudini: Some readers did not feel that Shepard nearly killing Ashley Williams for saying that "Jack Harper had a point" and then getting nothing else but getting yelled at by Anderson was enough.
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* KarmaHoudini: Some readers did not feel that Shepard nearly killing Ashley Williams for saying that "Jack Harper had a point" and then getting nothing else but getting yelled at by Anderson was enough.
