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** [[spoiler: Seeing the [=CGs=] of Kagami's rape scene replaced by Hasaki's doll and seeing the scene from her point of view, with some of the men ''talking for the doll'' in exaggerated voices as they defile it can be... unintentionally funny. The most ridiculous part is [[spoiler: when they were telling the rabbit to ''masturbate'' for them! Hasaki sees her doll with a paw in front of it's crotch while the men and onlookers jeer and ''get excited'' over this ''motionless toy''! It turns a previously uncomfortable scene into something ridiculous.]]

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** [[spoiler: Seeing the [=CGs=] of Kagami's rape scene replaced by Hasaki's doll and seeing the scene from her point of view, with some of the men ''talking for the doll'' in exaggerated voices as they defile it can be... unintentionally funny. The most ridiculous part is [[spoiler: when they were telling the rabbit to ''masturbate'' for them! Hasaki sees her doll with a paw in front of it's crotch while the men and onlookers jeer and ''get excited'' over this ''motionless toy''! It turns a previously uncomfortable scene into something ridiculous.]]

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* EsotericHappyEnding: In the Wonderful Everyday end of ''Jabberwocky II'' [[spoiler: Tomosane and Hasaki are living together in peace, yay! But that doesn't change the fact that Kimika and a ''massive number of people'' died jumping off the building under Takuji's orders.]]

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* EsotericHappyEnding: EsotericHappyEnding:
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In the Wonderful Everyday end of ''Jabberwocky II'' [[spoiler: Tomosane and Hasaki are living together in peace, yay! But that doesn't change the fact that Kimika and a ''massive number of people'' died jumping off the building under Takuji's orders.]]



** [[spoiler: Seeing the [=CGs=] of Kagami replaced by Hasaki's doll and seeing the scene from her point of view, with some of the men ''talking for the doll'' in exaggerated voices as they defile it can be... unintentionally funny.]]
*** The most ridiculous part is [[spoiler: when they were telling the rabbit to ''masturbate'' for them! Hasaki sees her doll with a paw in front of it's crotch while the men and onlookers jeer and ''get excited'' over this ''motionless toy''! It turns a previously uncomfortable scene into something ridiculous.]]

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** [[spoiler: Seeing the [=CGs=] of Kagami Kagami's rape scene replaced by Hasaki's doll and seeing the scene from her point of view, with some of the men ''talking for the doll'' in exaggerated voices as they defile it can be... unintentionally funny.]]
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The most ridiculous part is [[spoiler: when they were telling the rabbit to ''masturbate'' for them! Hasaki sees her doll with a paw in front of it's crotch while the men and onlookers jeer and ''get excited'' over this ''motionless toy''! It turns a previously uncomfortable scene into something ridiculous.]]



* {{Squick}}: For many people, the sexual harassment, rape, and bullying quickly becomes this. ''Sure'' there's a lot of sex scenes in the game, but most of them probably won't [[FanDisservice titillate the viewers.]]
** Even some of the consensual sex scenes can be this depending on how Squicky you find [[spoiler: BrotherSisterIncest]].

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* {{Squick}}: For many people, the sexual harassment, rape, and bullying quickly becomes this. ''Sure'' there's a lot of sex scenes in the game, but most of them probably won't [[FanDisservice titillate the viewers.]]
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]] Even some of the consensual sex scenes can be this depending on how Squicky you find [[spoiler: BrotherSisterIncest]].
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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZWd_7Ud-Lc Yoru no Himawari]], wildly recognized as the games signature track, is a beautiful and melancholy piano piece.

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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZWd_7Ud-Lc Yoru no Himawari]], wildly recognized as the games game's signature track, is a beautiful and melancholy piano piece.
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* AdaptationDisplacement: Quite a few people don't even know the game is a remake at all.

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* AdaptationDisplacement: Quite a few people don't even know the game is a remake at all.of ''VisualNovel/TsuiNoSora'', which was released back in 1999.
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He's not really inspiring vicious conflict, it's simply a few fans finding him disgusting. Discussion


* BaseBreakingCharacter: Takuji. Either he's one of the most fascinating and complex characters in the story, or an insufferable HolierThanThou villain who goes too far over the MoralEventHorizon to become tolerable.
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** Takuji's [[FreakOut reaction]] to Ayana [[spoiler: claiming to be Ririru-chan]]. It's ''meant'' to show just how unstable Takuji is, but between how [[spoiler: Ririru-chan is just a fictional character Takuji is unhealthy obsessed with]] and Ayana being an open {{Troll}}, it ends up looking like he's having an overblown reaction to a bad joke.

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** Takuji's [[FreakOut reaction]] to Ayana [[spoiler: claiming to be Ririru-chan]]. Riruru-chan]]. It's ''meant'' to show just how unstable Takuji is, but between how [[spoiler: Ririru-chan Riruru-chan is just a fictional character Takuji is unhealthy obsessed with]] and Ayana being an open {{Troll}}, it ends up looking like he's having an overblown reaction to a bad joke.
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* SacredCow: The game is easily one of the most critically acclaimed and beloved VNs in the hardcore VN community. Just ''saying'' something bad about it is inviting trouble.

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* SacredCow: The game is easily one of the most critically acclaimed and beloved VNs [=VNs=] in the hardcore VN community. Just ''saying'' something bad about it is inviting trouble.
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* MorePopularSpinoff: In a sense, ''Subarashiki Hibi'' is a improved 'remake' of an old {{Eroge}} called ''Tsui No Sora'' (Endsky). It shares a few of the same characters and plot points, but beyond that it's different is most every way.

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* MorePopularSpinoff: In a sense, ''Subarashiki Hibi'' is a improved 'remake' of an old {{Eroge}} called ''Tsui No Sora'' (Endsky). It shares a few of the same characters and plot points, but beyond that it's different is in most every way.
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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: For a good while, the game's infamously disturbing H-Scenes were easily one of the most well-known parts of the game. This has died down largely since the localization has come out, and bringing it up is a surefire way anger fans.

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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: For a good while, the game's infamously disturbing H-Scenes were easily one of the most well-known parts of the game. This has died down largely since the localization has come out, and bringing it up is a surefire way to anger fans.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Takuji. Either he's one of the most fascinating and complex characters in the story, or an insufferable HolierThanThou villain who goes so far over the MoralEventHorizon to become tolerable.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Takuji. Either he's one of the most fascinating and complex characters in the story, or an insufferable HolierThanThou villain who goes so too far over the MoralEventHorizon to become tolerable.
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* SignatureScene: Several:
** The ending of ''Down the Rabbit Hole I'', while Yuki and Zakuro partake in an extended {{Homage}} to ''Literature/NightOnTheGalacticRailroad''.
** Takuji revealing himself as the BigBad by delivering an insane speech on the meaning of death to his entire class before fleeing.
** [[spoiler:Ayana's SlasherSmile at the end of ''Down the Rabbit Hole II'' as Yuki's sense of reality falls apart.]]
** Due to the intense absurdity of it, [[spoiler:Takuji hallucinating Zakuro's desk as her and having sex with it.]]
** [[spoiler:The good ending of ''It's My Own Invention'', where ThePowerOfLove convinces Takuji to abandon his position as The Savior and instead join Kimika TogetherInDeath.]]
** [[spoiler:The normal ending of ''Looking-Glass Insects'', where Zakuro goes completely insane and drags her two terrified friends into their suicide pact while laughing.]]
** [[spoiler:Tomosane's death, which is shown from no less than three perspective over the story.]]
** Perhaps most beloved of them all, [[spoiler:Yuki's speech to Tomosane at Sunflower Hill about the meaning of life and death, capped off by the signature message of the game.]]
---> [[spoiler:''Live Happily!'']]
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Kimika. She wasn't even in ''Tsui no Sora'', has very minor roles in two of the games major arcs and her development is almost entirely restricted to sub-routes. Even so, she is easily one of the most beloved characters. Many fans adore her due to her being equal parts funny and extremely likable, along with providing some of the most meaningful scenes in the game. [[spoiler: That she gives [[LoveRedeems Takuji some measure of redemption]] and [[TheWoobie Zakuro]] a happy ending helps as well.]]

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Kimika. She wasn't even was a minor character in ''Tsui no Sora'', has very minor roles in two of the games major arcs and her development is almost entirely restricted to sub-routes. Even so, she is easily one of the most beloved characters. Many fans adore her due to her being equal parts funny and extremely likable, along with providing some of the most meaningful scenes in the game. [[spoiler: That she gives [[LoveRedeems Takuji some measure of redemption]] and [[TheWoobie Zakuro]] a happy ending helps as well.]]

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: ''It's My Own Invention'' and ''Looking-Glass Insects'' are often accused of this. The former is an incredibly bleak and depressing trip with a purposely unlikable VillainProtagonist and is filled with extremely disturbing content. The latter ends up becoming even ''more'' depressing in its latter half, compounded by it being a ForegoneConclusion and with a character the reader is actually supposed to like. Mercifully, both chapters provide sub-routes that provide less depressing conclusions and in ''Insects'' case avoid the disturbing content entirely, though in order to continue in the main story you still need to read the main ending.



** Even some of the consensual sex scenes can be this depending on how Squicky you find [[spoiler: BrotherSisterIncest]]

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** Even some of the consensual sex scenes can be this depending on how Squicky you find [[spoiler: BrotherSisterIncest]]BrotherSisterIncest]].
* TooBleakStoppedCaring: ''It's My Own Invention'' and ''Looking-Glass Insects'' are often accused of this. The former is an incredibly bleak and depressing trip with a purposely unlikable VillainProtagonist and is filled with extremely disturbing content. The latter ends up becoming even ''more'' depressing in its latter half, compounded by it being a ForegoneConclusion and with a character the reader is actually supposed to like. Mercifully, both chapters provide sub-routes that provide less depressing conclusions and in ''Insects'' case avoid the disturbing content entirely, though in order to continue in the main story you still need to read the main ending.
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* EsotericHappyEnding: In the Wonderful Everyday end of ''Jabberwocky II'' [[spoiler: Tomosane and Hasaki are living together in peace, yay! But that doesn't change the fact that a ''massive number of people'' died jumping off the building under Takuji's orders.]]

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* EsotericHappyEnding: In the Wonderful Everyday end of ''Jabberwocky II'' [[spoiler: Tomosane and Hasaki are living together in peace, yay! But that doesn't change the fact that Kimika and a ''massive number of people'' died jumping off the building under Takuji's orders.]]

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** In the "Hill of Sunflowers" ending [[spoiler: Yuki is...''somehow'' with Tomosane and Hasaki, though neither know for how long. This can be seen as either [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane heartwarming or unsettling]], as even Hasaki can see her now.]] aside from that the ending suffers from a lot of the same issue the ''Wonderful Everyday'' ending has.

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** In the "Hill ''Hill of Sunflowers" Sunflowers'' ending [[spoiler: Yuki is...''somehow'' with Tomosane and Hasaki, though neither know for how long. This can be seen as either [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane heartwarming or unsettling]], as even Hasaki can see her now.]] aside from that the ending suffers from a lot of the same issue the ''Wonderful Everyday'' ending has.


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** The ''Knockin' on Heaven's Door'' epilogue ends with Tomosane and Yuki becoming a couple. [[spoiler: Only that it's unknown if this Yuki is Tomosane's split personality or the real Yuki, now a ghost. Either way, Tomosane clearly hasn't moved on from her death.]]
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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: For a good while, the games infamously disturbing H-Scenes where easily one of the most well-known parts of the game. This has died down largely since the localization has come out, and bringing it up is a surefire way anger fans.

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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: For a good while, the games game's infamously disturbing H-Scenes where were easily one of the most well-known parts of the game. This has died down largely since the localization has come out, and bringing it up is a surefire way anger fans.
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--> [[spoiler:''Live Happily!'']]

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--> ---> [[spoiler:''Live Happily!'']]
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* HypeBacklash: Given that the game is considered by many to be a strong contender for the greatest VN of ''all time'', this was inevitable. Some people have taken to heavily critiquing the game on the basis of its slow pacing and heavy reliance on philosophy dumps over a straightforward narrative, arguing that its only achievement comes in due to making people feel "smart" over actually telling a good story.


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* SignatureScene: Several:
** The ending of ''Down the Rabbit Hole I'', while Yuki and Zakuro partake in an extended {{Homage}} to ''Literature/NightOnTheGalacticRailroad''.
** Takuji revealing himself as the BigBad by delivering an insane speech on the meaning of death to his entire class before fleeing.
** [[spoiler:Ayana's SlasherSmile at the end of ''Down the Rabbit Hole II'' as Yuki's sense of reality falls apart.]]
** Due to the intense absurdity of it, [[spoiler:Takuji hallucinating Zakuro's desk as her and having sex with it.]]
** [[spoiler:The good ending of ''It's My Own Invention'', where ThePowerOfLove convinces Takuji to abandon his position as The Savior and instead join Kimika TogetherInDeath.]]
** [[spoiler:The normal ending of ''Looking-Glass Insects'', where Zakuro goes completely insane and drags her two terrified friends into their suicide pact while laughing.]]
** [[spoiler:Tomosane's death, which is shown from no less than three perspective over the story.]]
** Perhaps most beloved of them all, [[spoiler:Yuki's speech to Tomosane at Sunflower Hill about the meaning of life and death, capped off by the signature message of the game.]]
--> [[spoiler:''Live Happily!'']]
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* AdaptationDisplacement: Quite a few people don't even know the game is a remake at all.
* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: One thing no one will argue with is that the soundtrack is ''incredible''. To give some of the highlights:
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZWd_7Ud-Lc Yoru no Himawari]], wildly recognized as the games signature track, is a beautiful and melancholy piano piece.
** Ayana's {{Leitmotif}} [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PW5ZrZ3JCw Tractatus Logico-philisophicus]].
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n30229CPKi0 Mado to Hikari]], a beautifully moving track played in some of the emotionally reliving scenes.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvq31YeQm-8 Chiisana Senritsu]] (warning, video contains spoilers).
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHzCnh32oKE Kaze no Fuku Oka]], a recurring track that plays over the course of ''Jabberwocky'', really sells some of the most emotional moments of the arc.
* BaseBreakingCharacter: Takuji. Either he's one of the most fascinating and complex characters in the story, or an insufferable HolierThanThou villain who goes so far over the MoralEventHorizon to become tolerable.
* BestKnownForTheFanservice: For a good while, the games infamously disturbing H-Scenes where easily one of the most well-known parts of the game. This has died down largely since the localization has come out, and bringing it up is a surefire way anger fans.
* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The infamous scene late into the main route of ''Looking Glass Insects'' where [[spoiler: Zakuro somehow witnesses one of the bullied girls being ''forcibly raped by a dog'' by her antagonizers]]. Not only does it come ''the hell out of nowhere'', it makes relatively little sense in context and is over just as briefly.
* BrokenBase: Arguments about which of the four arcs is the best can get quite ugly. Debate in particular goes if the denpa style narrative of ''It's My Own Invention'' and to a lesser degree ''Looking-Glass Insects'', or the more openly philosophical and plot-driven nature of ''Jabberwocky'' was the game at it's strongest. And that's before discussing the final ending, which divides everyone due to the wildly complex and subject to interpretation nature of it.
* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: ''It's My Own Invention'' and ''Looking-Glass Insects'' are often accused of this. The former is an incredibly bleak and depressing trip with a purposely unlikable VillainProtagonist and is filled with extremely disturbing content. The latter ends up becoming even ''more'' depressing in its latter half, compounded by it being a ForegoneConclusion and with a character the reader is actually supposed to like. Mercifully, both chapters provide sub-routes that provide less depressing conclusions and in ''Insects'' case avoid the disturbing content entirely, though in order to continue in the main story you still need to read the main ending.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Kimika. She wasn't even in ''Tsui no Sora'', has very minor roles in two of the games major arcs and her development is almost entirely restricted to sub-routes. Even so, she is easily one of the most beloved characters. Many fans adore her due to her being equal parts funny and extremely likable, along with providing some of the most meaningful scenes in the game. [[spoiler: That she gives [[LoveRedeems Takuji some measure of redemption]] and [[TheWoobie Zakuro]] a happy ending helps as well.]]
* EsotericHappyEnding: In the Wonderful Everyday end of ''Jabberwocky II'' [[spoiler: Tomosane and Hasaki are living together in peace, yay! But that doesn't change the fact that a ''massive number of people'' died jumping off the building under Takuji's orders.]]
** In the "Hill of Sunflowers" ending [[spoiler: Yuki is...''somehow'' with Tomosane and Hasaki, though neither know for how long. This can be seen as either [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane heartwarming or unsettling]], as even Hasaki can see her now.]] aside from that the ending suffers from a lot of the same issue the ''Wonderful Everyday'' ending has.
** And then there's ''End Sky II''[[spoiler: Implying none of this may have happened at all...]]
* GeniusBonus: All over the place with the characters referencing, quoting, and discussing a ''wide'' variety of literature such as [[Literature/AlicesAdventuresInWonderland Alice in Wonderland]], Creator/EmilyDickinson, [[Theatre/CyranoDeBergerac Cyrano de Bergerac]], Literature/TheBible, [[GeniusBookClub Critique of Pure Reason,]] Myth/NorseMythology, [[Literature/NightOnTheGalacticRailroad Night on the Galactic Railroad]], [[Creator/HPLovecraft Lovecraft]], [[Creator/LudwigWittgenstein Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus,]] and a LOT of [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking obscure anime and manga.]]
** And that's only scratching the surface of the sheer volume of [[ShoutOut shout outs]] and references this game has!
* MorePopularSpinoff: In a sense, ''Subarashiki Hibi'' is a improved 'remake' of an old {{Eroge}} called ''Tsui No Sora'' (Endsky). It shares a few of the same characters and plot points, but beyond that it's different is most every way.
* {{Narm}}:
** Takuji's [[FreakOut reaction]] to Ayana [[spoiler: claiming to be Ririru-chan]]. It's ''meant'' to show just how unstable Takuji is, but between how [[spoiler: Ririru-chan is just a fictional character Takuji is unhealthy obsessed with]] and Ayana being an open {{Troll}}, it ends up looking like he's having an overblown reaction to a bad joke.
** The reprise of [[spoiler: the rooftop battles between Takuji and Tomosane]] in ''Jabberwocky'' is hurt severely by the horribly OffModel pose [[spoiler: Takuji]] makes during the fight.
** [[spoiler: Seeing the [=CGs=] of Kagami replaced by Hasaki's doll and seeing the scene from her point of view, with some of the men ''talking for the doll'' in exaggerated voices as they defile it can be... unintentionally funny.]]
*** The most ridiculous part is [[spoiler: when they were telling the rabbit to ''masturbate'' for them! Hasaki sees her doll with a paw in front of it's crotch while the men and onlookers jeer and ''get excited'' over this ''motionless toy''! It turns a previously uncomfortable scene into something ridiculous.]]
* NightmareRetardant: The scene where [[spoiler:Kagami is raped by the cult]] is long and ''horrifying''. [[spoiler: The scene where it's revealed they were raping a stuffed animal... much less so.]]
* SacredCow: The game is easily one of the most critically acclaimed and beloved VNs in the hardcore VN community. Just ''saying'' something bad about it is inviting trouble.
* SlowPacedBeginning: Infamously one of the worst examples in a medium filled with these. Aside from a few brief scenes of overt {{Foreshadowing}}, the first half of ''Down The Rabbit Hole'' is largely a long series of yuri ShipTease scenes punctuated with occasional bits of philosophy that only make sense on a second reading. While the dream-like atmosphere does contribute thematically, many still consider it a major hurdle to get through, especially since the games ''actual'' story doesn't start until about 8 hours in.
* {{Squick}}: For many people, the sexual harassment, rape, and bullying quickly becomes this. ''Sure'' there's a lot of sex scenes in the game, but most of them probably won't [[FanDisservice titillate the viewers.]]
** Even some of the consensual sex scenes can be this depending on how Squicky you find [[spoiler: BrotherSisterIncest]]
* ViewersAreGeniuses: In addition to the insane amount of references made in the game, the reader should be familiar with several of them to make sense of a lot of the philosophical rambling the characters do, as well as to appreciate the significance of their stances on the passages they quote or reference.
* TheWoobie: [[spoiler: '''Zakuro.''']] Good luck getting through ''Looking Glass Insects'' without feeling terrible by the end of the main story.

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