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** Elvira is by far the most competent, heroic and intelligent person in the movie, whose only big mistake is turning her back on Jane after leaving the hammer within her reach, and her dialogue is comparatively more modern than the stereotypical black maid of the period (Maidie Norman reportedly refused to say some of the lines as written, telling Bob Aldrich that 'this is not the way we talk these days. This is old slavery-time talk'). This is especially impressive given that the film was released as the Civil Rights movement was in full swing and came out a full six years before [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/NightOfTheLivingDead1968 Night of the Living Dead]], the film widely credited as being the first horror film to feature a black protagonist.

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ValuesResonance: Elvira is by far the most competent, heroic and intelligent person in the movie, whose only big mistake is turning her back on Jane after leaving the hammer within her reach, and her dialogue is comparatively more modern than the stereotypical black maid of the period (Maidie Norman reportedly refused to say some of the lines as written, telling Bob Aldrich that 'this is not the way we talk these days. This is old slavery-time talk'). This is especially impressive given that the film was released as the Civil Rights movement was in full swing and came out a full six years before [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/NightOfTheLivingDead1968 ''[[Film/NightOfTheLivingDead1968 Night of the Living Dead]], Dead]]'', the film widely credited as being the first horror film to feature a black protagonist.
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** Elvira is by far the most competent, heroic and intelligent person in the movie, whose only big mistake is turning her back on Jane after leaving the hammer within her reach, and her dialogue is comparatively more modern than the stereotypical black maid of the period (Maidie Norman reportedly refused to say some of the lines as written, telling Bob Aldrich that 'this is not the way we talk these days. This is old slavery-time talk'). This is especially impressive given that the film was released as the Civil Rights movement was in full swing and came out a full six years before [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/NightOfTheLivingDead1968,]] the film widely credited as being the first horror film to feature a black protagonist.

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** Elvira is by far the most competent, heroic and intelligent person in the movie, whose only big mistake is turning her back on Jane after leaving the hammer within her reach, and her dialogue is comparatively more modern than the stereotypical black maid of the period (Maidie Norman reportedly refused to say some of the lines as written, telling Bob Aldrich that 'this is not the way we talk these days. This is old slavery-time talk'). This is especially impressive given that the film was released as the Civil Rights movement was in full swing and came out a full six years before [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/NightOfTheLivingDead1968,]] php/Film/NightOfTheLivingDead1968 Night of the Living Dead]], the film widely credited as being the first horror film to feature a black protagonist.
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* ValuesResonance:
** Elvira is by far the most competent, heroic and intelligent person in the movie, whose only big mistake is turning her back on Jane after leaving the hammer within her reach, and her dialogue is comparatively more modern than the stereotypical black maid of the period (Maidie Norman reportedly refused to say some of the lines as written, telling Bob Aldrich that 'this is not the way we talk these days. This is old slavery-time talk'). This is especially impressive given that the film was released as the Civil Rights movement was in full swing and came out a full six years before [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/NightOfTheLivingDead1968,]] the film widely credited as being the first horror film to feature a black protagonist.

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** Just because someone is "polite" does not make that person "[[BitchInSheepsClothing good]]." [[spoiler: Blanche's seemingly posh demeanor masks an incredibly vindictive woman who tried to kill her sister and spent years tormenting her over the accident. Jane, despite her many flaws, was ultimately the more mature sister and anyone who could see through Blanche's airs and falsehoods could've figured out how toxic she was.]]

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** Just because someone is "polite" does not make that person "[[BitchInSheepsClothing good]]." [[spoiler: Blanche's seemingly posh demeanor masks an incredibly vindictive woman who tried to kill her sister, lied about it, and tormented that same sister and spent for years tormenting her over the accident. something she didn't do. Jane, despite her many flaws, was ultimately the more mature sister sister, and anyone who could see through Blanche's airs and falsehoods could've figured out how toxic she was.]]


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** Obsessing about past fame will leave you miserable, and you should move on and do something different with your life. Jane would probably be happier if she moved on from "Baby Jane."
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** Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Even if [[spoiler: Jane had really run down Blanche all those years ago]], tormenting your primary caretaker while you are wheelchair-bound will leave you in a very precarious situation if the caretaker [[TheDogBitesBack decides enough is enough.]]

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** Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Even if [[spoiler: Jane had really run down Blanche all those years ago]], tormenting Tormenting your primary caretaker while you are wheelchair-bound will leave you in a very precarious situation if the caretaker [[TheDogBitesBack decides enough is enough.]]
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** Just because someone is "polite" does not make that person "[[BitchInSheepsClothing good]]." [[spoiler: Blanche's seemingly posh demeanor masks an incredibly vindictive woman who tried to kill her sister and spent years tormenting her over the accident. Jane, despite her many flaws, was ultimately the more mature sister and anyone who peaked below Blanche's airs and falsehoods could've figured out how toxic she was.]]

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** Just because someone is "polite" does not make that person "[[BitchInSheepsClothing good]]." [[spoiler: Blanche's seemingly posh demeanor masks an incredibly vindictive woman who tried to kill her sister and spent years tormenting her over the accident. Jane, despite her many flaws, was ultimately the more mature sister and anyone who peaked below could see through Blanche's airs and falsehoods could've figured out how toxic she was.]]
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** Jane's [[DissonantSerenity strangely blissful attitude]] and dance routine at the end. Has Jane lost all touch with reality [[spoiler: or does she feel some strange form of euphoria, knowing she didn't run her sister down.]]
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** Sibling rivalries are painful to overcome, but it is how you prevent future conflict. [[spoiler: If Blanche and Jane had tried to talk things out years ago, the tragedy of the movie wouldn't have occurred. Instead, they let they anger fester into a decades-long grudge match that ended with Elvira dead, Blanche (possibly) dying and, Jane likely headed for the madhouse.]]
** Just because someone is "polite" does not make that person "[[BitchInSheepsClothing good]]." [[spoiler: Blanche's seemingly posh demeanor masks a woman who tried to kill and spent years tormenting her sister over the accident she caused. Jane, despite her many flaws, was ultimately the more mature sister, and anyone who peaked below Blanche's airs could've figured out the truth.]]

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** Sibling rivalries are painful to overcome, but it is how you prevent future conflict. [[spoiler: If Blanche and Jane had tried to talk things out years ago, the tragedy of the movie wouldn't have occurred. Instead, they let they anger fester into a decades-long grudge match that ended with Elvira dead, Blanche (possibly) dying and, dying, and Jane likely headed for the madhouse.]]
** Just because someone is "polite" does not make that person "[[BitchInSheepsClothing good]]." [[spoiler: Blanche's seemingly posh demeanor masks a an incredibly vindictive woman who tried to kill her sister and spent years tormenting her sister over the accident she caused. accident. Jane, despite her many flaws, was ultimately the more mature sister, sister and anyone who peaked below Blanche's airs and falsehoods could've figured out the truth.how toxic she was.]]

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** Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Even if [[spoiler: Jane had run down Blanche all those years ago]], tormenting your primary caretaker while you are wheelchair-bound will leave you in a very precarious situation if the caretaker [[TheDogBitesBack decides enough is enough.]]
** Sibling rivalries are painful to overcome, but it is how you prevent future conflict. [[spoiler: If Blanche and Jane had tried to talk things out years ago, the tragedy of the movie wouldn't have occurred. Instead, they let they anger fester into a decades-long grudge match that ended with Blanche (possibly) dying and Jane likely headed for the madhouse.]]

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** Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Even if [[spoiler: Jane had really run down Blanche all those years ago]], tormenting your primary caretaker while you are wheelchair-bound will leave you in a very precarious situation if the caretaker [[TheDogBitesBack decides enough is enough.]]
** Sibling rivalries are painful to overcome, but it is how you prevent future conflict. [[spoiler: If Blanche and Jane had tried to talk things out years ago, the tragedy of the movie wouldn't have occurred. Instead, they let they anger fester into a decades-long grudge match that ended with Elvira dead, Blanche (possibly) dying and and, Jane likely headed for the madhouse.]]]]
** Just because someone is "polite" does not make that person "[[BitchInSheepsClothing good]]." [[spoiler: Blanche's seemingly posh demeanor masks a woman who tried to kill and spent years tormenting her sister over the accident she caused. Jane, despite her many flaws, was ultimately the more mature sister, and anyone who peaked below Blanche's airs could've figured out the truth.]]
** Show business is a brutal slog that brings painful psychological consequences. If Blanche and Jane had not been exposed to that life, they probably would've grown into much happier adults.



** Jane with regards to how much she cares for Blanche. In the opening, although Jane is bratty, she still wants Blanche to be included (insisting her father get some ice cream for her too). Blanche describes Jane fondly in her youth, implying the sisters were close once upon a time. The fact that Jane is still caring for her decades later implies that there could be lingering affection that's getting squashed by her own bitterness and jealousy. [[spoiler: When Elvira is killed and Edwin discovers the secret, Jane's first instinct is to run to Blanche like a frightened child. And when she discovers the truth, her first thought is not anger but sadness]]. The remake implies the latter, with the sisters being cordial and even affectionate at times - before Jane goes off the rails.

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** Jane with regards to how much she cares for Blanche. In the opening, although Jane is bratty, she still wants Blanche to be included (insisting her father get some ice cream for her too). Blanche describes Jane fondly in her youth, implying the sisters were close once upon a time. The fact that Jane is still caring for her decades later implies that there could be lingering affection that's getting could be squashed by her own bitterness and jealousy. [[spoiler: When Elvira is killed and Edwin discovers the secret, Jane's first instinct is to run to Blanche like a frightened child. And when she discovers the truth, her first thought is not anger but sadness]]. The remake implies the latter, with the sisters being cordial and even affectionate at times - before Jane goes off the rails.

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* AccidentalAesop: Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Even if [[spoiler: Jane had run down Blanche all those years ago]], tormenting your primary caretaker while you are wheelchair-bound will leave you in a very precarious situation if the caretaker [[TheDogBitesBack decides enough is enough.]]

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Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Even if [[spoiler: Jane had run down Blanche all those years ago]], tormenting your primary caretaker while you are wheelchair-bound will leave you in a very precarious situation if the caretaker [[TheDogBitesBack decides enough is enough.]] ]]
** Sibling rivalries are painful to overcome, but it is how you prevent future conflict. [[spoiler: If Blanche and Jane had tried to talk things out years ago, the tragedy of the movie wouldn't have occurred. Instead, they let they anger fester into a decades-long grudge match that ended with Blanche (possibly) dying and Jane likely headed for the madhouse.]]
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** When Jane says to Blanche at the end, "You mean...all this time, we could have been friends?", was she saying that if only Blanche had told her all along, she'd have been able to forgive her? Or was the comment simply bitter sarcasm? Or was Jane so out of her mind by that point she didn't know what she was saying?

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Mrs Bates says "that Jane Hudson makes me so mad I could kill her", and her daughter jokes "what'll we use?" - said daughter is played by the daughter of Creator/BetteDavis, BD Merrill. She would later publish a scathing ''Literature/MommieDearest''-style book about her mother (''My Mother's Keeper'') while Davis was still alive and in failing health.
* HarsherInHindsight: Jane Hudson is known as a drunken mess on set when she tries to be an actress, while Blanche is a perfect lady. The reverse happened to the two actresses that played them; Creator/BetteDavis was known for being a consummate professional who kept working for nearly twenty years after this film. Creator/JoanCrawford was known for being drunk and full of {{Narm}}, and would have retired from films before the decade was over. It's actually quite startling how her later years would end up paralleling Jane rather than her character Blanche; with the series ''{{Series/Feud}}'' even highlighting it.

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Mrs Bates says "that Jane Hudson makes me so mad I could kill her", and her daughter jokes "what'll we use?" - said daughter is played by the daughter of Creator/BetteDavis, BD Merrill. She would later publish a scathing ''Literature/MommieDearest''-style book about her mother (''My Mother's Keeper'') while Davis was still alive and in failing health.
* HarsherInHindsight: ** Jane Hudson is known as a drunken mess on set when she tries to be an actress, while Blanche is a perfect lady. The reverse happened to the two actresses that played them; Creator/BetteDavis was known for being a consummate professional who kept working for nearly twenty years after this film. Creator/JoanCrawford was known for being drunk and full of {{Narm}}, and would have retired from films before the decade was over. It's actually quite startling how her later years would end up paralleling Jane rather than her character Blanche; with the series ''{{Series/Feud}}'' even highlighting it.
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* AluminumChristmasTrees: While "I've Written a Letter to Daddy" was invented for this movie, it's a parody of a very real song called [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv7AaF1R534 "I Want A Pardon for Daddy"]], itself only one of a small universe of popular vaudeville tearjerkers written from the perspective of young children with dead/imprisoned parents, with titles such as "Roses On Mother's Grave" (the roses dear Mother tended with such care now decorate her grave), "The Empty Chair" (a list of all the chairs in which dear Father will never sit again), and "Mother Never Laughs Anymore" (the lyrics are unclear if Mother is grieving Father or if she stopped laughing because she herself is dead). Point being, "I've Written a Letter to Daddy" may be a parody, but it's ''barely'' an exaggeration.
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-->"Why do you care? [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Isn't that how I was conceived?]]"

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** Jane with regards to how much she cares for Blanche. In the opening, although Jane is bratty, she still wants Blanche to be included (insisting her father get some ice cream for her too). Blanche describes Jane fondly in her youth, implying the sisters were close once upon a time. The fact that Jane is still caring for her decades later implies that there could be lingering affection that's getting squashed by her own bitterness and jealousy. [[spoiler: When Elvira is killed and Edwin discovers the secret, Jane's first instinct is to run to Blanche like a frightened child. And when she discovers the truth, her first thought is not anger but sadness]].
** The remake implies the latter, with the sisters being cordial and even affectionate at times - before Jane goes off the rails.

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** Jane with regards to how much she cares for Blanche. In the opening, although Jane is bratty, she still wants Blanche to be included (insisting her father get some ice cream for her too). Blanche describes Jane fondly in her youth, implying the sisters were close once upon a time. The fact that Jane is still caring for her decades later implies that there could be lingering affection that's getting squashed by her own bitterness and jealousy. [[spoiler: When Elvira is killed and Edwin discovers the secret, Jane's first instinct is to run to Blanche like a frightened child. And when she discovers the truth, her first thought is not anger but sadness]].
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sadness]]. The remake implies the latter, with the sisters being cordial and even affectionate at times - before Jane goes off the rails. rails.
** Another reason for Jane being Blanche's carer, despite her obvious mental health problems. [[spoiler: Blanche may just want cheap labour, since Jane is her sister, and letting her believe she's responsible for her disability is a handy way to guilt her into looking after her for less pay rather than a professional who's better equipped. Indeed, Blanche at one point tries to threaten Jane that she depends on her for pocket money.]]
** We don't see enough of Jane's performances in film to get a sense of whether she's a bad actress or not. Bette Davis actively chose the old films of hers she viewed as the weakest, but the ones chosen were from a time when the studio were trying to make her into a Creator/GretaGarbo-esque bombshell (to her displeasure). The exec watching it trash talks her performance, but Jane later says she was told she got compliments on other roles. As we see her perfectly imitating Blanche's voice and still remembering song lyrics and choreography she hasn't performed in decades, it's possible she does have some talent; but her obvious alcohol problems and diva behaviour are what count against her.



* HarsherInHindsight: Jane Hudson is known as a drunken mess on set when she tries to be an actress, while Blanche is a perfect lady. The reverse happened to the two actresses that played them; Creator/BetteDavis was known for being a consummate professional who kept working for nearly twenty years after this film. Creator/JoanCrawford was known for being drunk and full of {{Narm}}, and would have retired from films before the decade was over.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Jane Hudson is known as a drunken mess on set when she tries to be an actress, while Blanche is a perfect lady. The reverse happened to the two actresses that played them; Creator/BetteDavis was known for being a consummate professional who kept working for nearly twenty years after this film. Creator/JoanCrawford was known for being drunk and full of {{Narm}}, and would have retired from films before the decade was over. It's actually quite startling how her later years would end up paralleling Jane rather than her character Blanche; with the series ''{{Series/Feud}}'' even highlighting it.



* MoralEventHorizon: Jane appears to have crossed this with her attempted murder and systematic abuse of Blanche. [[spoiler:The twist ending reveals all this to be a subversion.]]

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** [[spoiler: Blanche crossed it many years ago when she tried to murder her own sister, then let her sister believe she was responsible and forced her to take care of her for the rest of her life]].


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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: This movie was particularly scandalous for depicting its two aging actresses so unglamorously and horrifically that it received an X-rating! While regarded as extremely well made, newer viewers are unlikely to cop just how shocking it was at the time.
* SpecialEffectFailure: Whenever Jane imitates Blanche's voice, it's obviously Joan Crawford dubbing Bette Davis.


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** Blanche seems to view sending Jane to a facility or getting medical help for her obvious mental problems as AFateWorseThanDeath (where exactly was she expecting Jane to go once she sold the house?) - and doesn't even call a doctor until Elvira pushes for it. Mental healthcare had come a long way by the mid-60s with new advances in medication, but most people would still imagine a facility as a BedlamHouse. However, given that Blanche is expecting an obvious alcoholic to be her carer, [[spoiler: it's an early indicator that she's a villain]].
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* UncannyValley: Invoked with the Baby Jane doll, especially since it's implied that Jane is doing her make-up to resemble it.

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** It's unknown if Blanche plotted revenge straight from the "you bet I won't forget" moment up until [[spoiler: she tried to run over her sister. One has to wonder what her attitude towards Jane was afterwards. Did she withhold the truth just to torture Jane even further (forcing her to act as her caretaker)? Did she keep the lie out of fear of what Jane might do for revenge if she found out? Or was she genuinely sorry and just didn't know how to come out with it?]]
*** [[spoiler: Note that the book leans more towards the former interpretation, revealing that Blanche deliberately kept Jane from seeking psychiatric help because she was afraid that, as part of the therapy, Jane might remember that she was the miraculously escaped ''victim'' of Blanche's hit-and-run attack, rather than the ''assailant'' who crippled Blanche like she believes herself to be.]]

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** It's unknown if Blanche plotted revenge straight from the "you bet I won't forget" moment up until [[spoiler: she tried to run over her sister. One has to wonder what her attitude towards Jane was afterwards. Did she withhold the truth just to torture Jane even further (forcing her to act as her caretaker)? Did she keep the lie out of fear of what Jane might do for revenge if she found out? Or was she genuinely sorry and just didn't know how to come out with it?]]
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it?]] Note that the book leans more towards the former interpretation, [[spoiler: revealing that Blanche deliberately kept Jane from seeking psychiatric help because she was afraid that, as part of the therapy, Jane might remember that she was the miraculously escaped ''victim'' of Blanche's hit-and-run attack, rather than the ''assailant'' who crippled Blanche like she believes herself to be.]]


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* CommonKnowledge: Due to how often it's parodied by drag queens, the reputation of the 'Hagsploitation' subgenre and even ''{{Series/Feud}}'' portraying it being regarded as an unintentional comedy, many people assume it's of a quality similar to ''Literature/ValleyOfTheDolls'' or ''Literature/MommieDearest'' - rather than a GothicHorror story that also functions as a character study of {{Gaslighting}}, life after stardom and the lingering effects of child abuse. Far from being about {{Catfight}}s or SoapOpera tactics, the animosity between the sisters is a psychological game of cat-and-mouse, and both lead actresses took their roles very seriously (as did the filmmakers).


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* LGBTFanbase: Starring Joan Crawford and being about two aging divas fighting led to this film being remembered as a {{Camp}} classic. It's been popular in drag culture for decades.


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* OneSceneWonder: The girls' father only appears in the prologue, but is such a SmallRoleBigImpact, and a quintessential [[StageMom Stage Dad]] that he's remembered.
* OvershadowedByControversy: While held in high regard, the behind the scenes drama between Bette Davis and Joan Crawford and their overall feud is better remembered - and the film itself is often just remembered as a mere catalyst for it. A [[{{Series/Feud}} series about the feud]] was later made, with the majority of the action centering around this movie.
* RonTheDeathEater: Pop culture remembers Jane as a deranged villain, and ignoring all the nuances to her character, since of course this would require them to know the film's twist: [[spoiler: that Jane never tried to kill her sister, and it was actually Blanche, who has been {{Gaslighting}} her for roughly thirty years]]. The TragicMonster aspects to her character are forgotten, and she's remembered as a one-dimensional crazy old woman.
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* NightmareFuel: Creator/BetteDavis goes out of her way to play up Jane [[SanitySlippage slowly going insane]], with her caked-on horrid makeup that makes it look like her eyes are bulging out of her head and constantly contorting her face into [[SlasherSmile leering grin after leering grin]], so that pretty much every scene with Jane puts you on edge. Of special note should be the scene where Blanche, terrified, is desperately calling for doctor Shelby on the phone while the door opens behind her, revealing Jane...[[AloneWithThePsycho and she just stands there]]...
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* TastesLikeDiabetes: "I've Written a Letter to Daddy" in its original incarnation. However, when Jane sings it years later, it becomes NightmareFuel.
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* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: The film was expected to flop, particularly after the stories leaked to the press about the quarreling between the stars, but the film turned out to be a critical and commercial hit, even earning an Oscar nomination for Creator/BetteDavis.

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* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: The film was expected to flop, particularly after the stories leaked to the press about the quarreling between the stars, but the film turned out to be a critical and commercial hit, even earning an Oscar UsefulNotes/AcademyAward nomination for Creator/BetteDavis.

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* MemeticMutation: "Butcha ''are'', Blanche! Ya ''are'' in that chair!"

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* NothingIsScarier: A small moment when after Jane escapes with Blanche to the beach, it shows Jane happily building a sandcastle with Blanche nowhere in sight, giving the implication that Jane might have ''buried'' her. Eventually, the camera does pan to show that Blanche is still present and alive (barely).
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* TechnologyMarchesOn: One could argue Technology Marching On applies twice: in-universe for both films, as Blanche's career receives a modest comeback when new technology makes her filmography available to a new generation of fans; and in a meta-sense for the remake, in which her comeback is attributed to the then-current boom in home video. In 1961, airing old movies on television was new and novel; by 1991, it was practically what television was ''for''.
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* EsotericHappyEnding: [[spoiler:Jane no longer believes she's evil, as become as bright and happy as a child, but may be taken away to a mental institution, and there's no indication whether Blanche is alive or dead at the end. Regardless, the Jane now knows the truth and is fine with it.]]

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* EsotericHappyEnding: [[spoiler:Jane no longer believes she's evil, as become and becomes as bright and happy as a child, but may be taken away to a mental institution, and there's no indication whether Blanche is alive or dead at the end. Regardless, the Jane now knows the truth and is fine with it.]]
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** It's unknown if Blanche plotted revenge straight from the "you bet I won't forget moment" up until [[spoiler: she tried to run over her sister. One has to wonder what her attitude towards Jane was afterwards. Did she withhold the truth just to torture Jane even further (forcing her to act as her caretaker)? Did she keep the lie out of fear of what Jane might do for revenge if she found out? Or was she genuinely sorry and just didn't know how to come out with it?]]

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** It's unknown if Blanche plotted revenge straight from the "you bet I won't forget moment" forget" moment up until [[spoiler: she tried to run over her sister. One has to wonder what her attitude towards Jane was afterwards. Did she withhold the truth just to torture Jane even further (forcing her to act as her caretaker)? Did she keep the lie out of fear of what Jane might do for revenge if she found out? Or was she genuinely sorry and just didn't know how to come out with it?]]
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* NothingIsScarier: A small moment when after Jane escapes with Blanche to the beach, it shows Jane happily building a sandcastle with Blanche nowhere in sight, giving the implication that Jane might have ''buried'' her. Eventually, the camera does pan to show that Blanche is still present and alive (barely).
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Mrs Bates says "that Jane Hudson makes me so mad I could kill her", and her daughter jokes "what'll we use?" - said daughter is played by the daughter of Creator/BetteDavis, BD Merrill. She would later publish a scathing ''Literature/MommieDearest''-style book about her mother (''My Mother's Keeper'').

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Mrs Bates says "that Jane Hudson makes me so mad I could kill her", and her daughter jokes "what'll we use?" - said daughter is played by the daughter of Creator/BetteDavis, BD Merrill. She would later publish a scathing ''Literature/MommieDearest''-style book about her mother (''My Mother's Keeper'').Keeper'') while Davis was still alive and in failing health.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Mrs Bates says "that Jane Hudson makes me so mad I could kill her", and her daughter jokes "what'll we use?" - said daughter is played by BD Merrill. She would later publish a scathing ''Literature/MommieDearest'' style book about her mother.

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Mrs Bates says "that Jane Hudson makes me so mad I could kill her", and her daughter jokes "what'll we use?" - said daughter is played by the daughter of Creator/BetteDavis, BD Merrill. She would later publish a scathing ''Literature/MommieDearest'' style ''Literature/MommieDearest''-style book about her mother.mother (''My Mother's Keeper'').

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