History YMMV / WarriorCats

5th Apr '17 3:02:27 AM Reika
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* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: Mapleshade. She's a complete and utter monster, and fully admits it. Why is she a monster? [[spoiler:Because she had kits with a RiverClan cat, was discovered partially through an omen from StarClan, and was exiled from ThunderClan. When she tried to take them across the river to be with their father, all three kits were swept away right in front of her eyes, drowning despite her attempts to save them. Both her mate, Appledusk, and RiverClan blamed her for this, casting her out as well; Appledusk took a new mate almost immediately. Mapleshade is haunted by visions of her dying kits and basically snaps like beatnik poetry.]]

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* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: Mapleshade. She's a complete and utter monster, and fully admits it. Why is she a monster? [[spoiler:Because she had kits with a RiverClan {=RiverClan=} cat, was discovered partially through an omen from StarClan, {=StarClan=}, and was exiled from ThunderClan.{=ThunderClan=}. When she tried to take them across the river to be with their father, all three kits were swept away right in front of her eyes, drowning despite her attempts to save them. Both her mate, Appledusk, and RiverClan {=RiverClan=} blamed her for this, casting her out as well; Appledusk took also revealed that he had a new mate almost immediately.mate, Reedshine, and was apparently cheating on her with Mapleshade, much to Mapleshade's anger. Mapleshade is haunted by visions of her dying kits and basically snaps like beatnik poetry.]]
2nd Apr '17 4:41:21 PM KyoXTohru1
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** The circumstances behind Ashfur's [[spoiler:trying to kill Squirrelflight and her kits]]: He was upset because she had dumped him a year before. The reason why this is here? Think of how many murders/shooting sprees have occurred in reality for the exact same reasons, especially in the past three years.
17th Mar '17 2:34:44 AM Aeon1337
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** Ashfur. No, not Ashfur of [=ShadowClan=]. This one-off elder from ''Into the Wild'' is insanely popular among haters of a certain similarly named [=ThunderClanner=] because he gives them an excuse to troll Ashfur fans and is ''genuinely awesome'' (he's an elder who has had enough of Brokenstar and helps to kick his ass when he kidnaps [=ThunderClan=] kits).

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** Ashfur. No, not Ashfur of [=ShadowClan=]. This one-off elder from ''Into the Wild'' is insanely popular among haters of a certain similarly named [=ThunderClanner=] because he gives them an excuse to troll Ashfur fans and is ''genuinely awesome'' (he's an elder who has had enough of Brokenstar and helps to kick his ass when he kidnaps [=ThunderClan=] kits).
10th Feb '17 6:26:11 PM Pichu-kun
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* ItWasHisSled: Everyone and their mothers know that Spottedleaf dies in ''Into the Wild''. Given that ''Into the Wild'' is the very first book, and she shows up in later books as a SpiritAdvisor, it's unavoidable.

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Everyone and their mothers know that Spottedleaf dies in ''Into the Wild''. Given that ''Into the Wild'' is the very first book, and she shows up in later books as a SpiritAdvisor, it's unavoidable.



* MemeticBadass: [[EnsembleDarkhorse Mousewhisker]] on Vicky's Website/{{Facebook}} page. [[http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10150254063017454&id=100000657920607 They have even started making]] [[ChuckNorrisFacts Mousewhisker Facts]].

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[[EnsembleDarkhorse Mousewhisker]] on Vicky's Website/{{Facebook}} page. [[http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10150254063017454&id=100000657920607 They have even started making]] [[ChuckNorrisFacts Mousewhisker Facts]].



* PopularWithFurries: The ''Warrior Cats'' is one of the biggest feral furry fandoms, and arguably one of the biggest furry fandoms period. It's rare to find a furry who likes cats but not ''Warriors''. It's often a GatewaySeries into other furry-friendly works, especially cat related.



* SacredCow: The first series generally gets this treatment, but especially The Darkest Hour, which the majority of the fanbase cites as the best Warriors book of all time.

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* SacredCow: The first series generally gets this treatment, but especially The ''The Darkest Hour, Hour'', which the majority of the fanbase cites as the best Warriors ''Warriors'' book of all time.
10th Feb '17 12:23:27 PM Ylana_Starscream
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: The author has stated that the series isn't for kids, but for people of all ages. And what with the gore, implicit sexual content, and mature themes, she's right.
5th Jan '17 11:06:42 PM yukitora
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* ContinuityLockOut: It is actually possible to skip the first series and start with the second series, but from the third series onward, it keeps getting less and less accessible to new readers.

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* ContinuityLockOut: It is actually possible to skip the first series and start with the second series, but from the third series onward, it keeps getting less and less accessible to new readers. This changes in the sixth series, ''A Vision Of Shadows'', which has been designed to be enjoyable without the context of the previous material.
20th Nov '16 11:08:45 PM Dawnwing
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* ArcFatigue: The "Three" arc. Partly because they couldn't decide on what power Hollyleaf would have by the time they were ''halfway through'' the six-book Power of Three series, and then Vicky finally got the idea that maybe Hollyleaf isn't actually one of the Three, and the story arc got dragged on to fill the fourth series, ''Omen of the Stars'', as well. The purpose of the Three is that they all have special powers that will help them defeat the Dark Forest when they invade the Clans; this wasn't even hinted at until partway through ''Omen of the Stars''. Instead, the two series were mostly filled with short filler conflicts, and there was no real villain throughout all of ''Power of Three''.
* ArchiveBinge: Warriors is a fun binge. Over 30 novels, and that's the bare bones experience. You also have a bunch of extra-long standalone "super editions", books explaining history and characters, several series of OEL, and at least a dozen novellas. [[CrackIsCheaper Your wallet will]] [[AFoolAndHisNewMoneyAreSoonParted never be this thick again]] if you decide to read. Have fun!
* ArchivePanic: Warriors will have at least 36 books in the main series, 9 super editions, 13 manga, 5 guidebooks, and 12 novellas. And counting.


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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: ''Warriors'' is about cute, fluffy cats that are involved in bloody battles, have a complex religious and social structure, have a tendency to die horribly, and have illegitimate offspring all over the place. Younger kids see cats, and then see continuity and violence and leave. Older kids are put off by the CuteKitten thing and may be embarrassed to start the series in the first place.
29th Oct '16 5:28:35 AM ACW
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** The final villain of the original series, [[AxCrazy Scourge]], proves to be even worse than [[BigBad Tigerstar/Tigerclaw]]. A former kittypet-turned-rogue leading a gang of stray cats calling themselves "BloodClan," Scourge decorates his collar with the teeth of those he's killed and reinforces his claws with the claws of dogs, promoting a [[TheSocialDarwinist survival-of-the-fittest philosophy]] within BloodClan's ranks and leaving any cats who can't fend for themselves--kits included--to die. Tigerstar invites BloodClan into the territory of the forest in the interest of an alliance; Scourge is quick to backstab Tigerstar by cutting him open, calmly watching him bleed out and [[CruelAndUnusualDeath die an agonizing death nine times in a row]]. Scourge declares the forest his and attempts to drive out the other Clans under the threat of total war, and ultimately leads BloodClan into battle against the other Clans with the intent to wipe everyone else out and take complete control of the forest. In ''Secrets of the Clans'', Scourge orders Barley's brothers to murder Violet in cold blood, denying Barley a chance to take his sister's place due to his desire for a more sadistic punishment. Scourge's diminutive stature belied a murderous feline interested solely in power.

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** The **The final villain of the original series, [[AxCrazy Scourge]], proves to be even worse than [[BigBad Tigerstar/Tigerclaw]]. A former kittypet-turned-rogue leading a gang of stray cats calling themselves "BloodClan," "[=BloodClan=]," Scourge decorates his collar with the teeth of those he's killed and reinforces his claws with the claws of dogs, promoting a [[TheSocialDarwinist survival-of-the-fittest philosophy]] within BloodClan's [=BloodClan=]'s ranks and leaving any cats who can't fend for themselves--kits included--to die. Tigerstar invites BloodClan [=BloodClan=] into the territory of the forest in the interest of an alliance; Scourge is quick to backstab Tigerstar by cutting him open, calmly watching him bleed out and [[CruelAndUnusualDeath die an agonizing death nine times in a row]]. Scourge declares the forest his and attempts to drive out the other Clans under the threat of total war, and ultimately leads BloodClan [=BloodClan=] into battle against the other Clans with the intent to wipe everyone else out and take complete control of the forest. In ''Secrets of the Clans'', Scourge orders Barley's brothers to murder Violet in cold blood, denying Barley a chance to take his sister's place due to his desire for a more sadistic punishment. Scourge's diminutive stature belied a murderous feline interested solely in power.
29th Oct '16 5:26:59 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster:
** Scourge is probably the worst, being a mass-murderer who wears the teeth of his victims as trophies and reinforces his claws with sharpened dog's teeth, and leads a massive gang of stray cats calling themselves [=BloodClan=], who, as a group, also have a reputation for extreme violence. [[TheSocialDarwinist Scourge]] leaves his Clan's kits to fend for themselves; they either advance to the position of warriors, or die in the streets of starvation and predation. Scourge's viciousness is best demonstrated when [[spoiler:uses his reinforced claws to injure Tigerstar, the original BigBad, so terribly that he dies thrashing and gurgling in agony nine times in a row, all the while watching as if the moment was as mundane as grooming his fur]]. Scourge also [[spoiler:ordered Barley's brothers to murder their own sister, Violet, in cold blood just because Barley and Violet were taking care of each other. [[TakeMeInstead Barley offered to take his sister's place]], but Scourge thought that it would be more sadistic and a better punishment if Barley was ForcedToWatch Violet die. Fortunately, Violet still lived, and both of them fled [=BloodClan=].]]
** Don't feel too bad for Tigerstar though. A power-hungry traitor who killed his Clan's previous deputy in the hopes of gaining his position, Tigerstar (then Tigerclaw) took his place and began plotting against his leader, Bluestar, planning to murder her as well. Driven out of his Clan when his treachery is exposed, he first leads a band of rogues who prey on all the Clans, before becoming chief of Shadowclan. Taking control of Riverclan, Tigerstar sets up a [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Naziesque]] regime, killing halfblood cats, running Windclan out of their home, and plotting to bring the entire forest under his domination. To that end, he invites Scourge into their territory in his worst and final mistake.
** [[UngratefulBastard Brokenstar]] is established as the books' first BigBad when, early on, it is shown he sends kits under 6 months old against full grown warriors, tries to kidnap kits from other Clans when his own all die from his harsh training, and forces a Clan out of their territory. When he is blinded by [=ThunderClan=] and given shelter as their prisoner, he still [[spoiler: plots with Tigerclaw to kill Bluestar and take over the clan]], even though the same clan protected him from [=WindClan=] and [=ShadowClan=] when they tried to kill him. His [[spoiler:own mother, Yellowfang]], eventually kills him for the safety of TheClan.

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CompleteMonster: This duo from ''[[Literature/WarriorCatsTheOriginalSeries The Prophecies Begin]]'':
** Scourge is probably the worst, being a mass-murderer who wears the teeth of his victims as trophies and reinforces his claws with sharpened dog's teeth, and leads a massive gang of stray cats calling themselves [=BloodClan=], who, as a group, also have a reputation for extreme violence. [[TheSocialDarwinist Scourge]] leaves his Clan's kits to fend for themselves; they either advance to the position of warriors, or die in the streets of starvation and predation. Scourge's viciousness is best demonstrated when [[spoiler:uses his reinforced claws to injure Tigerstar, the original BigBad, so terribly that he dies thrashing and gurgling in agony nine times in a row, all the while watching as if the moment was as mundane as grooming his fur]]. Scourge also [[spoiler:ordered Barley's brothers to murder their own sister, Violet, in cold blood just because Barley and Violet were taking care of each other. [[TakeMeInstead Barley offered to take his sister's place]], but Scourge thought that it would be more sadistic and a better punishment if Barley was ForcedToWatch Violet die. Fortunately, Violet still lived, and both of them fled [=BloodClan=].]]
** Don't feel too bad for Tigerstar though. A power-hungry traitor who killed his Clan's previous deputy in the hopes of gaining his position, Tigerstar (then Tigerclaw) took his place and began plotting against his leader, Bluestar, planning to murder her as well. Driven out of his Clan when his treachery is exposed, he first leads a band of rogues who prey on all the Clans, before becoming chief of Shadowclan. Taking control of Riverclan, Tigerstar sets up a [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Naziesque]] regime, killing halfblood cats, running Windclan out of their home, and plotting to bring the entire forest under his domination. To that end, he invites Scourge into their territory in his worst and final mistake.
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[[EvilOverlord Brokenstar]] is established as the books' first BigBad when, early on, it is shown that [[ChildSoldiers he sends kits under 6 months old old]] against full grown warriors, tries to kidnap kits from other Clans when his own all die from his harsh training, and forces a Clan out of their territory. When he is blinded by [=ThunderClan=] and given shelter as their prisoner, he still [[spoiler: plots [[spoiler:plots with Tigerclaw to kill Bluestar and take over the clan]], [[UngratefulBastard even though the same clan protected him him]] from [=WindClan=] and [=ShadowClan=] when they tried to kill him. His [[spoiler:own mother, Yellowfang]], eventually kills him for the safety of TheClan.TheClan.
**The final villain of the original series, [[AxCrazy Scourge]], proves to be even worse than [[BigBad Tigerstar/Tigerclaw]]. A former kittypet-turned-rogue leading a gang of stray cats calling themselves "BloodClan," Scourge decorates his collar with the teeth of those he's killed and reinforces his claws with the claws of dogs, promoting a [[TheSocialDarwinist survival-of-the-fittest philosophy]] within BloodClan's ranks and leaving any cats who can't fend for themselves--kits included--to die. Tigerstar invites BloodClan into the territory of the forest in the interest of an alliance; Scourge is quick to backstab Tigerstar by cutting him open, calmly watching him bleed out and [[CruelAndUnusualDeath die an agonizing death nine times in a row]]. Scourge declares the forest his and attempts to drive out the other Clans under the threat of total war, and ultimately leads BloodClan into battle against the other Clans with the intent to wipe everyone else out and take complete control of the forest. In ''Secrets of the Clans'', Scourge orders Barley's brothers to murder Violet in cold blood, denying Barley a chance to take his sister's place due to his desire for a more sadistic punishment. Scourge's diminutive stature belied a murderous feline interested solely in power.
28th Oct '16 1:19:29 AM NoblegasXenon
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** Brambleclaw, Mothwing, and Tawnypelt for being the children of the series' Big Bad. Brambleclaw especially has had to endure harsh criticism and Firestar sees Tigerstar in Brambleclaw occasionally. His sister is also in another Clan and [[spoiler:Squirrelflight never told him about Jayfeather, Hollyleaf, and Lionblaze not being his kits.]] Tawnypelt was told she was "just like Tigerstar" and left [=ThunderClan=] top be with her father. Mothwing is an atheist Medicine Cat who was chosen by Mudfur because of a sign that Hawkfrost planted. She's unable to teach her apprentice, Willowshine about [=StarClan=] because of this and until the end of Sunrise, is stuck doing whatever her brother tells her. Luckily, all three of these cats earn their happy ending.

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** Brambleclaw, Mothwing, and Tawnypelt for being the children of the series' Big Bad. Brambleclaw especially has had to endure harsh criticism and Firestar sees Tigerstar in Brambleclaw occasionally. His sister is also in another Clan and [[spoiler:Squirrelflight never told him about Jayfeather, Hollyleaf, and Lionblaze not being his kits.]] Tawnypelt was told she was "just like Tigerstar" and left [=ThunderClan=] top to be with her father. Mothwing is an atheist Medicine Cat who was chosen by Mudfur because of a sign that Hawkfrost planted. She's unable to teach her apprentice, Willowshine about [=StarClan=] because of this and until the end of Sunrise, is stuck doing whatever her brother tells her. Luckily, all three of these cats earn their happy ending.
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