History YMMV / WarriorCats

24th Sep '17 4:08:32 PM nombretomado
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** [[EnsembleDarkhorse Mousewhisker]] on Vicky's Website/{{Facebook}} page. [[http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10150254063017454&id=100000657920607 They have even started making]] [[ChuckNorrisFacts Mousewhisker Facts]].

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** [[EnsembleDarkhorse Mousewhisker]] on Vicky's Website/{{Facebook}} page. [[http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10150254063017454&id=100000657920607 They have even started making]] [[ChuckNorrisFacts [[Website/ChuckNorrisFacts Mousewhisker Facts]].
7th Sep '17 7:17:22 PM Eggnogyum
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** Depending on who you ask, Bumblestripe is either a genuinely nice guy or an entitled Nice Guy™.
30th Aug '17 12:47:04 PM Pichu-kun
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** Despite being born and raised a kittypet until he was at least six moons, Firestar didn't seem to be remotely attached to his twolegs. He didn't even think of them when he ran off to join [=ThunderClan=], besides the fact they're get a ReplacementGoldfish quickly (which they did).

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** Despite being born and raised a kittypet until he was at least six moons, Firestar didn't seem to be remotely attached to his twolegs. He didn't even think of them when he ran off to join [=ThunderClan=], besides the fact they're they'd get a ReplacementGoldfish quickly (which they did).
26th Aug '17 3:19:56 PM OnTheHillside
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* * InformedWrongness: Moth Flight as of ''Moth Flight's Vision.'' She's the reason medicine cats are forbidden from taking mates or having kits [[spoiler:on the grounds that she believed herself incapable of dividing herself between her kits and her duties. The problem is, nothing catastrophic ever happens because of this...she's simply stressed, her kits miss her, and one gets in an accident that could have easily happened to anyone's kit. Rather than chalking this all up as a natural consequence of her mate having perished, or even questioning whether having one single doctor constantly on call is a good thing, Moth Flight and the narrative agree that her having children was a mistake -- and furthermore, that no medicine cat ever should.]]

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* * InformedWrongness: Moth Flight as of ''Moth Flight's Vision.'' She's the reason medicine cats are forbidden from taking mates or having kits [[spoiler:on the grounds that she believed herself incapable of dividing herself between her kits and her duties. The problem is, nothing catastrophic ever happens because of this...she's simply stressed, her kits miss her, and one gets in an accident that could have easily happened to anyone's kit. Rather than chalking this all up as a natural consequence of her mate having perished, or even questioning whether having one single doctor constantly on call is a good thing, Moth Flight and the narrative agree that her having children was a mistake -- and furthermore, that no medicine cat ever should.]]
26th Aug '17 3:19:48 PM OnTheHillside
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* * InformedWrongness: Moth Flight as of ''Moth Flight's Vision.'' She's the reason medicine cats are forbidden from taking mates or having kits [[spoiler:on the grounds that she believed herself incapable of dividing herself between her kits and her duties. The problem is, nothing catastrophic ever happens because of this...she's simply stressed, her kits miss her, and one gets in an accident that could have easily happened to anyone's kit. Rather than chalking this all up as a natural consequence of her mate having perished, or even questioning whether having one single doctor constantly on call is a good thing, Moth Flight and the narrative agree that her having children was a mistake -- and furthermore, that no medicine cat ever should.]]
17th Aug '17 8:17:55 AM Pichu-kun
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* ArchiveBinge: Warriors is a fun binge. Over 30 novels, and that's the bare bones experience. You also have a bunch of extra-long standalone "super editions", books explaining history and characters, several series of OEL, and at least a dozen novellas. [[CrackIsCheaper Your wallet will]] [[AFoolAndHisNewMoneyAreSoonParted never be this thick again]] if you decide to read. Have fun!

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* ArchiveBinge: Warriors ''Warriors'' is a fun binge. Over 30 novels, and that's the bare bones experience. You also have a bunch of extra-long standalone "super editions", books explaining history and characters, several series of OEL, and at least a dozen novellas. [[CrackIsCheaper Your wallet will]] [[AFoolAndHisNewMoneyAreSoonParted never be this thick again]] if you decide to read. Have fun!



** ''Warriors'' gets this with other Creator/ErinHunter works. ''Warriors'' outnumbers the fandoms by a ''huge'' lot, however that doesn't stop debates on which series is better. ''Warriors'' versus ''Literature/{{Seeker|Dog}}s'' is popular simply due to the "cats vs dogs" debate.

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** ''Warriors'' gets this with other Creator/ErinHunter works. ''Warriors'' outnumbers the fandoms by a ''huge'' lot, however that doesn't stop debates on which series is better. ''Warriors'' versus ''Literature/{{Seeker|Dog}}s'' ''Literature/{{Survivor|Dog}}s'' is popular simply due to the "cats vs dogs" debate.
17th Aug '17 8:16:31 AM Pichu-kun
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* AngstWhatAngst: Sandstorm is not shown mourning, or even being upset at all at, the death of Redtail, who WordOfGod claims was her father. The same with the death of Brindleface, who was apparently her mother. Possibly because FlipFlopOfGod is frequent when it comes to family trees.

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* AngstWhatAngst: AngstWhatAngst:
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Sandstorm is not shown mourning, or even being upset at all at, the death of Redtail, who WordOfGod claims was her father. The same with the death of Brindleface, who was apparently her mother. Possibly because FlipFlopOfGod is frequent when it comes to family trees.trees.
** Despite being born and raised a kittypet until he was at least six moons, Firestar didn't seem to be remotely attached to his twolegs. He didn't even think of them when he ran off to join [=ThunderClan=], besides the fact they're get a ReplacementGoldfish quickly (which they did).



* CargoShip: [=JayfeatherxStick=] {{OTP}}.
** [[spoiler:ShipSinking. Towards the end of ''The Fourth Apprentice'', he breaks the stick. ''[[BigNo Nooooo!]]'']]
** This has to be the first time in history ShipSinking has verified the pairing in question: [[spoiler:Vicky says that Jay/Stick was romance; therefore, it had to be doomed]].

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** The topic of a film is a contentious one amongst fans. Should it be adapted or not? Which arc(s), or would a completely original story based in the universe be better? Which characters should be AdaptedOut or made into {{Composite Character}}s, as will inevitably happen due to the LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters? American/Canadian accents or British? What animation style? There are a lot of discussions and much of it revolves around arguing.
** Much of the fanbase draws fanart of the characters, however how to draw characters has become this. Thanks in no part to vague descriptions and DependingOnTheArtist, the characters can be depicted many ways (for example, is Firestar a tabby or a completely red?). Should [x] character be lean, muscular, fluffy, tall, stocky, etc? TuftOfHeadFur or not? Nevermind artists who draw the characters as being genetically accurate, no matter what their canonical colours are.
* CargoShip: [=JayfeatherxStick=] {{OTP}}.
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{{OTP}}. [[spoiler:ShipSinking. Towards the end of ''The Fourth Apprentice'', he breaks the stick. ''[[BigNo Nooooo!]]'']]
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Nooooo!]]'']] This has to be the first time in history ShipSinking has verified the pairing in question: [[spoiler:Vicky says that Jay/Stick was romance; therefore, it had to be doomed]].



* DieForOurShip: Every [[StarCrossedLovers forbidden love]] pairing has suffered more than it's fair share of hatred, for better or worse, considering it's, ya know, [[StarCrossedLovers forbidden love]]. (Even though [[spoiler:they usually always end badly]].) Nightcloud, Daisy, and Millie tend to get the worst of the shipping-fueled hate from supporters of Crowfeather/Leafpool, Brightheart/Cloudtail, and Graystripe/Silverstream, respectively.

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* DieForOurShip: DieForOurShip:
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Every [[StarCrossedLovers forbidden love]] pairing has suffered more than it's fair share of hatred, for better or worse, considering it's, ya know, [[StarCrossedLovers forbidden love]]. (Even though [[spoiler:they usually always end badly]].) Nightcloud, Daisy, and Millie tend to get the worst of the shipping-fueled hate from supporters of Crowfeather/Leafpool, Brightheart/Cloudtail, and Graystripe/Silverstream, respectively.



** Snowkit, oddly, especially since he wasn't important at all (for those that don't know, he was just a deaf kit in the first story who was stolen by a hawk, and did nothing for the plot but edge on Bluestar's madness). However, despite that he only has a few scenes, the amount of support and fanfiction (he often survives the hawk attack, through various means) is astonishing.

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** Snowkit, oddly, especially since he wasn't important at all (for those that don't know, he was just a deaf kit in the first story who fifth bookwho was stolen by a hawk, and did nothing for the plot but edge on Bluestar's madness). However, despite that he only has a few scenes, the amount of support and fanfiction (he often survives the hawk attack, through various means) is astonishing.



* FanPreferredCouple: While shipping is divisive amongst ''Warriors'' fans, the one overwhelmingly-popular ship is [[FoeYay Hawkfrost/Ivypool]]. It got so popular Vicky actually had to come out and say the two of them weren't in love, though it didn't stop the fans.

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* FanPreferredCouple: FandomRivalry:
** ''Warriors'' gets this with other Creator/ErinHunter works. ''Warriors'' outnumbers the fandoms by a ''huge'' lot, however that doesn't stop debates on which series is better. ''Warriors'' versus ''Literature/{{Seeker|Dog}}s'' is popular simply due to the "cats vs dogs" debate.
** ''Warriors'' versus any other cat xenofiction work, such as ''Literature/TailchasersSong'' or ''Literature/VarjakPaw''. ''Warriors'' is the most popular and many of the series share fans, however there's still plenty of room for arguing between the fans.
* FanPreferredCouple:
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While shipping is divisive amongst ''Warriors'' fans, the one overwhelmingly-popular ship is [[FoeYay Hawkfrost/Ivypool]]. It got so popular Vicky actually had to come out and say the two of them weren't in love, though it didn't stop the fans.



* FoeYayShipping: Hollyleaf/Sol has its share of fans, despite (or because of) the two being enemies.

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* FoeYayShipping: FoeYayShipping:
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Hollyleaf/Sol has its share of fans, despite (or because of) the two being enemies.



* PopularWithFurries: The ''Warrior Cats'' is one of the biggest feral furry fandoms, and arguably one of the biggest furry fandoms period. It's rare to find a furry who likes cats but not ''Warriors''. It's often a GatewaySeries into other furry-friendly works, especially cat related.

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* PopularWithFurries: The ''Warrior Cats'' is one of the biggest feral furry fandoms, and arguably one of the biggest furry fandoms period. It's rare to find a furry who likes domestic cats but not ''Warriors''. It's often a GatewaySeries into other furry-friendly works, especially cat related.



* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Ivypool In ''Night Whispers''.

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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap:
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Ivypool In ''Night Whispers''.



* RonTheDeathEater: Squirrelflight among certain fans, is portrayed to be leading along Ashfur to purposely break his heart and ultimately was 100% responsible for [[spoiler:Ashfur's FaceHeelTurn near the end of TNP]]. If she's not outright mutilated, Ashfur becomes a victim and she becomes an evil heartless she-cat. All this despite the WordOfGod that Squirrelflight was ''not'' intentionally leading him on.

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* RonTheDeathEater: RonTheDeathEater:
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Squirrelflight among certain fans, is portrayed to be leading along Ashfur to purposely break his heart and ultimately was 100% responsible for [[spoiler:Ashfur's FaceHeelTurn near the end of TNP]]. If she's not outright mutilated, Ashfur becomes a victim and she becomes an evil heartless she-cat. All this despite the WordOfGod that Squirrelflight was ''not'' intentionally leading him on.



* TaintedByThePreview: ''Hollyleaf's Story'' was a victim of this for several reasons. For one, being e-book exclusive meant that people who bought the paper versions were out of luck. Another reason is that novellas are often available for free online, yet this still cost money. And that's not even going into the people who are on the hatred side of the base Hollyleaf broke. Harper Collins didn't seem to take the hint, as a second e-book exclusive novella is coming out in October 2012.
** Luckily, the e-books are going to be released together as a paperback book in Summer of 2013.

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* TaintedByThePreview: ''Hollyleaf's Story'' was a victim of this for several reasons. For one, being e-book exclusive meant that people who bought the paper versions were out of luck. Another reason is that novellas are often available for free online, yet this still cost money. And that's not even going into the people who are on the hatred side of the base Hollyleaf broke. Harper Collins didn't seem to take the hint, as a second e-book exclusive novella is coming out in October 2012.
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2012. Luckily, the e-books are going to be released together as a paperback book in Summer of 2013.
9th Aug '17 9:41:53 PM OnTheHillside
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* GhostShipping: Since [=StarClan=] and Dark Forest cats are able to still interact with living characters, this crops up a lot in the fandom. Some obvious cases are Firestar/Spottedleaf, Ivypool/Hawkfrost, and Jayfeather/Brightspirit.

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* GhostShipping: Since [=StarClan=] and Dark Forest cats are able to still interact with living characters, this crops up a lot in the fandom. Some obvious cases are Firestar/Spottedleaf, Ivypool/Hawkfrost, and Jayfeather/Brightspirit. Fallen Leaves/Hollyleaf is a big one, and at least one of the writers considers it canon.
1st Aug '17 5:58:17 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* MarySue:
** Spottedleaf. She's beautiful, she's young, she's a gifted medicine cat, and she's unfailingly kind. Constantly. She doesn't ever do a thing wrong. It's maddening. And it's not just Firestar being an UnreliableNarrator, either. Other cats who see her in dreams describe her as being beautiful and smelling great.



* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: Mapleshade. She's a complete and utter monster, and fully admits it. Why is she a monster? [[spoiler:Because she had kits with a {=RiverClan=} cat, was discovered partially through an omen from {=StarClan=}, and was exiled from {=ThunderClan=}. When she tried to take them across the river to be with their father, all three kits were swept away right in front of her eyes, drowning despite her attempts to save them. Both her mate, Appledusk, and {=RiverClan=} blamed her for this, casting her out as well; Appledusk also revealed that he had a mate, Reedshine, and was apparently cheating on her with Mapleshade, much to Mapleshade's anger. Mapleshade is haunted by visions of her dying kits and basically snaps like beatnik poetry.]]



** Firestar: courageous [[TheHero hero]] or a boring MartyStu?
** Is Spottedleaf a sweet and caring she-cat, a MarySue, or a creepy StalkerWithACrush to Firestar?

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** Firestar: courageous [[TheHero hero]] or a boring MartyStu?
boring?
** Is Spottedleaf a sweet and caring she-cat, a MarySue, or a creepy StalkerWithACrush to Firestar?



** Dovewing. A whiny, bland MarySue who's shallow and annoying, or a flawed but ultimately compassionate and understandable character? You decide!

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** Dovewing. A whiny, bland MarySue who's Whiny, shallow and annoying, or a flawed but ultimately compassionate and understandable character? You decide!



** Cinderheart. Either she's a well-written character who's just as likable as her pre-incarnation, Cinderpelt, or a bitchy MarySue whose very existence as a reincarnation of Cinderpelt completely warps canon. There's little to no middle ground on this.

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** Cinderheart. Either she's a well-written character who's just as likable as her pre-incarnation, Cinderpelt, or a bitchy MarySue character whose very existence as a reincarnation of Cinderpelt completely warps canon. There's little to no middle ground on this.



* CanonSue: There have been entire debates and essays over whether Firestar, Spottedleaf, Cinderheart, Feathertail, Half-Moon, Silverstream, or Lionblaze are this.
** Leafpool and Dovewing are also subject to this.



** Half-Moon gets her share of bashing and accusations of being a CanonSue[=/=]SatelliteLoveInterest, namely from some shippers who pair Jayfeather with other cats such as Cinderheart, Briarlight, Willowshine, and Poppyfrost.

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** Half-Moon gets her share of bashing and accusations of being a CanonSue[=/=]SatelliteLoveInterest, SatelliteLoveInterest, namely from some shippers who pair Jayfeather with other cats such as Cinderheart, Briarlight, Willowshine, and Poppyfrost.
26th Jul '17 5:13:34 PM OnTheHillside
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