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* CommonKnowledge: You’ll often hear people claim that the polar allosaur was based on the megaraptoran ''Australovenator'' before it was properly named and described. [[CriticalResearchFailure Except it wasn't]]. The latter was discovered in Queensland during the mid-2000s (long after the series aired), while the former was based on an ankle bone from southern Victoria. And while said ankle bone is morphologically similar to the corresponding bone in ''Australovenator'', meaning the “polar allosaur” was likely a megaraptoran itself, it's not ''Australovenator'', due to being around 20-15 million years older. The confusion stems from the fact that upon its initial description, ''Australovenator'' was believed to have lived 115-110 million years ago, around the same age as the "polar allosaur", so naturally, workers made the assumption that the two could be the same animals, and several BBC websites subsequently parroted the purported connection. However, a 2013 study determined that ''Australovenator'' was geologically younger, at around 95 million years old, making it highly unlikely that these two theropods are the same taxon. Just for comparison, the age difference is comparable to the gap between the last entelodonts and modern humans.

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often hear people claim claimed that the polar allosaur was based on the megaraptoran ''Australovenator'' before it was properly named and described. [[CriticalResearchFailure Except it wasn't]]. The latter was discovered in Queensland during the mid-2000s (long after the series aired), while the former was based on an ankle bone from southern Victoria. And while said ankle bone is morphologically similar to the corresponding bone in ''Australovenator'', meaning the “polar allosaur” was likely a megaraptoran itself, it's not ''Australovenator'', due to being around 20-15 million years older. The confusion stems from the fact that upon its initial description, ''Australovenator'' was believed to have lived 115-110 million years ago, around the same age as the "polar allosaur", so naturally, workers made the assumption that the two could be the same animals, and several BBC websites subsequently parroted the purported connection. However, a 2013 study determined that ''Australovenator'' was geologically younger, at around 95 million years old, making it highly unlikely that these two theropods are the same taxon. Just for comparison, the age difference is comparable to the gap between the last entelodonts and modern humans.humans.
** When talking about the [[{{Understatement}} exaggerated]] size of the show’s ''Liopleurodon'', people often cite the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_of_Aramberri Monster of Aramberri]] as its inspiration. But that doesn’t seem to be the case. The tie-in book ''Walking with Dinosaurs: The Evidence'', which was published a year after the series aired, details that the massive size was actually based on an [[http://markwitton-com.blogspot.com/2020/04/in-pursuit-of-giant-pliosaurids-and.html assortment of jaw and snout fragments from Oxford Clay, as well as one vertebra around 25 cm in width housed at the Peterborough Museum]] ([[ScienceMarchesOn that later turned out to come from a sauropod]]), which were interpreted at the time as stemming from pliosaurs reaching up to as 20 meters in length. And the main ''Liopleurodon'' in “Cruel Sea” is described as a centenarian who is an unusually large specimen of a species that ''on average'' grows to 18-20 meters in lenght. Meanwhile, the Monster of Aramberri gained notoriety for its alleged colossal size around 2003 (after WWD aired). Though the 2005 book ''The Complete Guide to Prehistoric Life'' does allude to the Aramberri pliosaur in the ''Liopleurodon'' entry, though this seems to have been an afterthought to validate the size.
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* CommonKnowledge: You’ll often hear people claim that the polar allosaur was based on the megaraptoran ''Australovenator'' before it was properly named and described. [[CriticalResearchFailure Except it wasn't]]. The latter was discovered in Queensland during the mid-2000s (long after the series aired), while the former was based on an ankle bone from southern Victoria. And while said ankle bone is morphologically similar to the corresponding bone in ''Australovenator'', meaning the “polar allosaur” was likely a megaraptoran itself, it's not ''Australovenator'' , on account of there being a 20 million year age gap between them. The confusion stems from the fact that upon its initial description in 2009, ''Australovenator'' was believed to have lived circa 115-110 mya, around the same age as ''polar allosaur'', so naturally, workers made the assumption that the two could be the same animals, and several BBC websites also parroted the purported connection. However, a 2013 study reevaluated ''Australovenator'''s age as 97-94 mya, making it highly unlikely that these two theropods are the same taxon. Just for comparison, the age gap between them is comparable to the gap between the last entelodonts and modern humans.

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* CommonKnowledge: You’ll often hear people claim that the polar allosaur was based on the megaraptoran ''Australovenator'' before it was properly named and described. [[CriticalResearchFailure Except it wasn't]]. The latter was discovered in Queensland during the mid-2000s (long after the series aired), while the former was based on an ankle bone from southern Victoria. And while said ankle bone is morphologically similar to the corresponding bone in ''Australovenator'', meaning the “polar allosaur” was likely a megaraptoran itself, it's not ''Australovenator'' , on account of there ''Australovenator'', due to being a 20 around 20-15 million year age gap between them. years older. The confusion stems from the fact that upon its initial description in 2009, description, ''Australovenator'' was believed to have lived circa 115-110 mya, million years ago, around the same age as ''polar allosaur'', the "polar allosaur", so naturally, workers made the assumption that the two could be the same animals, and several BBC websites also subsequently parroted the purported connection. However, a 2013 study reevaluated ''Australovenator'''s age as 97-94 mya, determined that ''Australovenator'' was geologically younger, at around 95 million years old, making it highly unlikely that these two theropods are the same taxon. Just for comparison, the age gap between them difference is comparable to the gap between the last entelodonts and modern humans.
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* CommonKnowledge: You’ll often hear people claim that the producers based the polar allosaur on the megaraptoran ''Australovenator'' before the latter was properly described.[[CriticalResearchFailure Except, they didn’t]]. The latter was discovered in the Winton Formation of Queensland during the mid-2000s (long after the series aired), while the former was based on ankle bone from Dinosaur Cove in southern Victoria. And while said ankle bone is indeed morphologically similar to the corresponding bone in ''Australovenator'', meaning the “polar allosaur” was likely a megaraptoran, it and ''Australovenator'' are not the same animal, on account of there being a 20 million year age gap between them. The confusion stems from the fact that upon its initial description in 2009, ''Australovenator'' was believed to have lived during the late Aptian or early Albian (circa 115-110 mya), so naturally, workers made the assumption that it and the "polar allosaurs" could be the same animals, and several BBC websites also parroted the purported connection. However, a 2013 study reevaluated the age of ''Australovenator'' and the Winton Formation as late Cenomanian (97-94 mya), making it highly unlikely that these two theropods are the same taxon. Just for comparison, the age gap between them is comparable to age gap between the last entelodont (''Daeodon'') and modern humans.

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* CommonKnowledge: You’ll often hear people claim that the producers based the polar allosaur was based on the megaraptoran ''Australovenator'' before the latter it was properly described.named and described. [[CriticalResearchFailure Except, they didn’t]]. Except it wasn't]]. The latter was discovered in the Winton Formation of Queensland during the mid-2000s (long after the series aired), while the former was based on an ankle bone from Dinosaur Cove in southern Victoria. And while said ankle bone is indeed morphologically similar to the corresponding bone in ''Australovenator'', meaning the “polar allosaur” was likely a megaraptoran, it and megaraptoran itself, it's not ''Australovenator'' are not the same animal, , on account of there being a 20 million year age gap between them. The confusion stems from the fact that upon its initial description in 2009, ''Australovenator'' was believed to have lived during the late Aptian or early Albian (circa circa 115-110 mya), mya, around the same age as ''polar allosaur'', so naturally, workers made the assumption that it and the "polar allosaurs" two could be the same animals, and several BBC websites also parroted the purported connection. However, a 2013 study reevaluated the ''Australovenator'''s age of ''Australovenator'' and the Winton Formation as late Cenomanian (97-94 mya), 97-94 mya, making it highly unlikely that these two theropods are the same taxon. Just for comparison, the age gap between them is comparable to age the gap between the last entelodont (''Daeodon'') entelodonts and modern humans.
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* CommonKnowledge: You’ll often hear people claim that the producers based the polar allosaur on the megaraptoran ''Australovenator'' before the latter was properly described.[[CriticalResearchFailure Except, they didn’t]]. The latter was discovered in the Winton Formation of Queensland during the mid-2000s (long after the series aired), while the former was based on ankle bone from Dinosaur Cove in southern Victoria. And while said ankle bone is indeed morphologically similar to the corresponding bone in ''Australovenator'', meaning the “polar allosaur” was likely a megaraptoran, it and ''Australovenator'' are not the same animal, on account of there being a 20 million year age gap between them. The confusion stems from the fact that upon its initial description in 2009, ''Australovenator'' was believed to have lived during the late Aptian or early Albian (circa 115-110 mya), so naturally, workers made the assumption that it and the "polar allosaurs" could be the same animals, and several BBC websites also parroted the purported connection. However, a 2013 study reevaluated the age of ''Australovenator'' and the Winton Formation as late Cenomanian (97-94 mya), making it highly unlikely that these two theropods are the same taxon. Just for comparison, the age gap between them is comparable to age gap between the last entelodont (''Daeodon'') and modern humans.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Lets see? Non-saurian Triassic wildlife being sluggish and ungainly primitives? Scaly coelurosaurs? ''Ornitholestes'' with a nose-crest? Whale-sized pliosaurs? Plesiosaurs crawling onto land? Stiff-necked diplodocids? [[MoreDeadlyThanTheMale Female T. rex ouclasing the boys]]? Badger-like ''Didelphodon''? ''Quetzalcoatlus'' looking nothing like ''Quetzalcoatlus''? Dinosaurs already teetering towards extinction before the meteor impact? Yes, there is no denying that this show is very much an embodiment of [[TheNineties late '90s]] paleontology.

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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: A subtle case as it is entirely due to ScienceMarchesOn, but the show is very much state of the art of dinosaurology in [[TheNineties the late '90s]]. This is specially true for "Death of a Dynasty", which is an indirect listing of [[PhlebotinumKilledTheDinosaurs various theories about the extinction of the dinosaurs]] culminating with the asteroid hit. The general feeling of the episode is that dinosaurs were doing bad and the asteroid either made it worse or put them out of their misery, which is smack down between pre-asteroid, pre-Dinosaur Renaissance attitudes ("Dinosaurs were outdated monstrosities doomed to extinction") and current ones ("Dinosaurs were doing alright and would still dominate today if it wasn't for the asteroid"). Another telling point is the bizarre depiction of ''Quetzalcoatlus'' as a marine skim feeder, which had just been proposed in 1996 and was debunked a decade later.

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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: A subtle case as it is entirely due to ScienceMarchesOn, but the show is very much state of the art of dinosaurology in [[TheNineties the late '90s]]. This is specially true for "Death of a Dynasty", which is an indirect listing of [[PhlebotinumKilledTheDinosaurs various theories about the extinction of the dinosaurs]] culminating Lets see? Non-saurian Triassic wildlife being sluggish and ungainly primitives? Scaly coelurosaurs? ''Ornitholestes'' with a nose-crest? Whale-sized pliosaurs? Plesiosaurs crawling onto land? Stiff-necked diplodocids? [[MoreDeadlyThanTheMale Female T. rex ouclasing the asteroid hit. The general feeling of the episode is that dinosaurs were doing bad and the asteroid either made it worse or put them out of their misery, which is smack down between pre-asteroid, pre-Dinosaur Renaissance attitudes ("Dinosaurs were outdated monstrosities doomed to extinction") and current ones ("Dinosaurs were doing alright and would still dominate today if it wasn't for the asteroid"). Another telling point is the bizarre depiction of boys]]? Badger-like ''Didelphodon''? ''Quetzalcoatlus'' as a marine skim feeder, which had just been proposed in 1996 and was debunked a decade later.looking nothing like ''Quetzalcoatlus''? Dinosaurs already teetering towards extinction before the meteor impact? Yes, there is no denying that this show is very much an embodiment of [[TheNineties late '90s]] paleontology.
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** The ''Postosuchus'' in “New Blood” is framed as a [[TheDreaded fierce and powerful apex predator]] who strikes fear into the hearts of early dinosaurs and other Triassic animals….[[WeaksauceWeakness except that she can only move at a snail’s pace]] (even before getting crippled), meaning the agile ''Coelophysis'' could easily hassle her and suffer no consequences, [[FridgeLogic and perhaps that’s the reason that the only interaction between them is during the former’s dying breath]]. That said, in real life, ''Postosuchus'' ''wasn’t'' a [[ScienceMarchesOn sluggish, lumbering hulk]].

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** The ''Postosuchus'' in “New Blood” is framed as a [[TheDreaded fierce and powerful apex predator]] who strikes fear into the hearts of early dinosaurs and other Triassic animals….[[WeaksauceWeakness except that she can only move at a snail’s pace]] (even before getting crippled), meaning the agile ''Coelophysis'' could easily hassle her and suffer no consequences, [[FridgeLogic and perhaps that’s the reason that the only interaction between them is during the former’s dying breath]]. That said, in real life, ''Postosuchus'' ''wasn’t'' '''wasn’t''' a [[ScienceMarchesOn sluggish, lumbering hulk]].

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** The ''Postosuchus'' “New Blood” is framed as a [[TheDreaded fierce and powerful apex predator]] who strikes fear into the hearts of early dinosaurs and other Triassic animals….[[WeaksauceWeakness except that she can only move at a snail’s pace]] (even before getting crippled), meaning the agile ''Coelophysis'' could easily hassle her and suffer no consequences, [[FridgeLogic and perhaps that’s the reason that the only interaction between them is during the former’s dying breath]]. That said, in real life, ''Postosuchus'' certainly ''wasn’t'' a [[ScienceMarchesOn sluggish, lumbering hulk]].

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** The ''Postosuchus'' in “New Blood” is framed as a [[TheDreaded fierce and powerful apex predator]] who strikes fear into the hearts of early dinosaurs and other Triassic animals….[[WeaksauceWeakness except that she can only move at a snail’s pace]] (even before getting crippled), meaning the agile ''Coelophysis'' could easily hassle her and suffer no consequences, [[FridgeLogic and perhaps that’s the reason that the only interaction between them is during the former’s dying breath]]. That said, in real life, ''Postosuchus'' certainly ''wasn’t'' a [[ScienceMarchesOn sluggish, lumbering hulk]].


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* NightmareRetardant: The ''Postosuchus'' resembles a terrifying cross between a [[NeverSmileAtACrocodile crocodile]] and a ''Tyrannosaurus rex'', and is the top predator of the Triassic, but she’s also as [[WeaksauceWeakness slow as molasses]] and you could avoid her deadly jaws by just walking at a brisk pace.
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** The ''Postosuchus'' “New Blood” is framed as a [[TheDreaded fierce and powerful apex predator]] who strikes fear into the hearts of early dinosaurs and other Triassic animals….[[WeaksauceWeakness except that she can only move at a snail’s pace]] (even before getting crippled) , meaning the agile ''Coelophysis'' could easily hassle her and suffer no consequences, [[FridgeLogic and perhaps that’s the reason that the only interaction between them is during the former’s dying breath]]. That said, in real life, Postosuchus certainly wasn’t a [[ScienceMarchesOn sluggish, lumbering hulk]].

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* {{Narm}}: The final fate of the tyrannosaurid family at the end of "Death of a Dynasty" rather comically clashes with the grimness of the scene. To elaborate: The mother died from her leg wound, with the surviving infants clustering around her body. Then the meteor shockwave hits. The babies get suck up by the wind and zoom away, followed by the mother's corpse being lazily dragged after them.

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The final fate of the tyrannosaurid family at the end of "Death of a Dynasty" rather comically clashes with the grimness of the scene. To elaborate: The mother died from her leg wound, with the surviving infants clustering around her body. Then the meteor shockwave hits. The babies get suck up by the wind and zoom away, followed by the mother's corpse being lazily dragged after them.

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** ''Stegosaurus'' appears during the canyon scene, but his badass intimidation of the ''Allosaurus'' leaves an impression.



** Narrowly averted with ''Ankylosaurus'', as they have a small introduction early on.



** Even these shows weren't immune to this: the most common goofs are CG clipping errors (like when the mammoth's trunk "merges" with its tusk), wires from the animatronic models or parts of the people controlling them being visible, and shadow/reflection effects being messed up. Some are obvious (like the skin of the Opthalmosaurus puppet coming off in the birthing scene), others you only catch if you watch the clips frame-by-frame.

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** Even these shows weren't immune to this: the most common goofs are CG clipping errors (like when the mammoth's trunk "merges" with its tusk), tusk and the ''Ornitholestes''' quills clipping into its skin), wires from the animatronic models or parts of the people controlling them being visible, and shadow/reflection effects being messed up. Some are obvious (like the skin of the Opthalmosaurus ''Opthalmosaurus'' puppet coming flaking off in the birthing scene), others you only catch if you watch the clips frame-by-frame.


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** Similarly, any shots of animals eating would be done in ways that avoiding actually showing them swallowing, such as cutting away, putting their head just out of frame, obscuring it behind some object, or just showing them chewing but with nothing in their mouth. It's also noticeable that predators are rarely seen pinning a food item with their foot. Presumably, this was due to the difficulty in showing the different CGI models realistically interacting or the CGI animal interacting with a physical prop.
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* MemeticMutation: [[https://44.media.tumblr.com/cc561234e17dee608865e021626dd173/tumblr_onqlkt6Cfa1vwwm7ko3_400.gif The derpy Utahraptor front view animatronic]] has become a popular image reaction among fans due to its strange yet goofy design that makes the animal look like if its having a FlatWhat reaction to something.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: Specifically, Awesome FanArt: [[ScienceMarchesOn since much of the series has become outdated]], people on Deviant Art have begun making their own versions of the series that are more up to date than the original.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Scowler almost crosses this when he disowns Patchi and leaves him stuck in a ditch to be killed by predators for leading the herd away from a lake of thin ice that he himself led into (and never shows remorse or responsibility for it). By ''almost'' as in he redeems himself as he's getting mauled by Gorgon and Patchi rescues him.


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* MoralEventHorizon: Scowler almost crosses this when he disowns Patchi and leaves him stuck in a ditch to be killed by predators for leading the herd away from a lake of thin ice that he himself led into (and never shows remorse or responsibility for it). By ''almost'' as in he redeems himself as he's getting mauled by Gorgon and Patchi rescues him.
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* CatharsisFactor: Gorgon mauling Scowler to near-death after the latter reached his nastiest by leaving Patchi to die.

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* CatharsisFactor: Gorgon mauling Scowler to near-death after the latter reached his nastiest by leaving Patchi to die.
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* TheScrappy: Juniper is considered a bizarre ''Gender'' Scrappy for being a FlatCharacter and evident of the gratuitous sexism the movie shows.

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* FanNickname: The core documentary trio, ''Dinosaurs'', ''Beasts'' and ''Monsters'', are sometimes referred to as the Trilogy of Life, thanks to the documentary on the ''Walking With Monsters'' DVD and Executive Producer Tim Haines referring to the three as such in the documentary. The name is appropriate as the three cover the evolution of life throughout Earth's history.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Very easy to do thanks to the Cretaceous Cut removing the dialogue. A key example would be Juniper. Going from a snarky love interest for Patchi in the original cut, to a sweet, mild mannered herd member who’s just as scared and confused as he is with the world, with the two finding comfort in each other before they both learn how to fight for themselves.

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** Gorgon from the 3D film, partially for being one of the few named characters not to receive an annoying voiceover.
** Although for characters that ''do'' have a voiceover Alex has some popularity with the viewers, considering him to be less annoying than the others and he even does a SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome.
** The TerribleTrio of azhdarchids from the 3D movie, due to their slapstick and [[UglyCute strange adorableness]].


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** The TerribleTrio of azhdarchids, thanks to their slapstick and [[UglyCute strange adorableness]].

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* AngstWhatAngst: The deaths of Patchi and Scowler's entire family in the 2013 movie. By the next morning, they're done mourning their father, and the loss of their mother and siblings is never even mentioned.
* BetterOnDVD: For those who disliked the childish dialogue in the 3D movie, at least. The Blu-ray release has the "Cretaceous Cut", which eliminates it completely.
* CriticalBacklash:
** From the general scientist/paleontologist community, but mostly from those to whom scientific accuracy is SeriousBusiness and any amount of speculation is intolerable. One such person infamously labeled the show's paleontology consultants "[[http://palaeo.gly.bris.ac.uk/Essays/WWD/default.html prostitutes]]" for "selling out" their knowledge to a fancy TV show.
** Pretty much every critic and their mothers are attacking the 3D movie. Few people are willing to contest them.
* DesignatedVillain: Of the 3D movie, Gorgon. He's treated as the main villain, and yet he's just a predator trying to survive and feed his pack. Probably justified, though, as the story is told from the point of view of his prey.

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* AngstWhatAngst: The deaths of Patchi and Scowler's entire family in the 2013 movie. By the next morning, they're done mourning their father, and the loss of their mother and siblings is never even mentioned.
* BetterOnDVD: For those who disliked the childish dialogue in the 3D movie, at least. The Blu-ray release has the "Cretaceous Cut", which eliminates it completely.
* CriticalBacklash:
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CriticalBacklash: From the general scientist/paleontologist community, but mostly from those to whom scientific accuracy is SeriousBusiness and any amount of speculation is intolerable. One such person infamously labeled the show's paleontology consultants "[[http://palaeo.gly.bris.ac.uk/Essays/WWD/default.html prostitutes]]" for "selling out" their knowledge to a fancy TV show.
** Pretty much every critic and their mothers are attacking the 3D movie. Few people are willing to contest them.
* DesignatedVillain: Of the 3D movie, Gorgon. He's treated as the main villain, and yet he's just a predator trying to survive and feed his pack. Probably justified, though, as the story is told from the point of view of his prey.
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* FirstInstallmentWins: ''Beasts,'' and ''Monsters'' are also well-liked and are better in many ways, but ''Walking with Dinosaurs'' is the most iconic of series to the general public because, well, [[EverythingsBetterWithDinosaurs it's the one with dinosaurs in it]]. This was acknowledged by the producers during development: they originally wanted to cover the era shown in ''Beasts'', but settled on ''Dinosaurs'' as they are incontestably more popular, and its success would help turn people's eyes to ''Beasts'' and the era of history it covered. This proved to be a benefit, as they underestimated the challenges of rendering fur in CGI.

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''Beasts,'' and ''Monsters'' are also well-liked and are better in many ways, but ''Walking with Dinosaurs'' is the most iconic of series to the general public because, well, [[EverythingsBetterWithDinosaurs it's the one with dinosaurs in it]]. This was acknowledged by the producers during development: they originally wanted to cover the era shown in ''Beasts'', but settled on ''Dinosaurs'' as they are incontestably more popular, and its success would help turn people's eyes to ''Beasts'' and the era of history it covered. This proved to be a benefit, as they underestimated the challenges of rendering fur in CGI.



* {{Narm}}:
** The final fate of the tyrannosaurid family at the end of "Death of a Dynasty" rather comically clashes with the grimness of the scene. To elaborate: The mother died from her leg wound, with the surviving infants clustering around her body. Then the meteor shockwave hits. The babies get suck up by the wind and zoom away, followed by the mother's corpse being lazily dragged after them.
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{{Narm}}: The final fate of the tyrannosaurid family at the end of "Death of a Dynasty" rather comically clashes with the grimness of the scene. To elaborate: The mother died from her leg wound, with the surviving infants clustering around her body. Then the meteor shockwave hits. The babies get suck up by the wind and zoom away, followed by the mother's corpse being lazily dragged after them.
** ALL of the dialogue in the 3D film.
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* SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames: In contrast to the 3D film, the video game is much better received.



* TheScrappy: Juniper, from the 2013 movie, is considered a bizarre ''Gender'' Scrappy for being a FlatCharacter and evident of the gratuitous sexism the movie shows.
* SignatureScene:
** The ''Liopleurodon'' snatching up the ''Eustreptospondlyus'' is easily the most memorable moment of the original series, and immediately put the former species on the map.
** Patchi nearly allowing himself to be eaten in the 2013 film was seen as the most jarring and nightmarish in an otherwise unremarkable film.
* SoBadItsGood: Arguably the 2013 movie, with its inept childish dialogue, over-the-top cliché plot and gratuitous sexism. Others just see it as horrible, though.
* SpecialEffectFailure: Even these shows weren't immune to this: the most common goofs are CG clipping errors (like when the mammoth's trunk "merges" with its tusk), wires from the animatronic models or parts of the people controlling them being visible, and shadow/reflection effects being messed up. Some are obvious (like the skin of the Opthalmosaurus puppet coming off in the birthing scene), others you only catch if you watch the clips frame-by-frame.
** The film has no lip synching, leading to speculation that it was supposed to be a serious documentary and was changed to a comedic film a la WesternAnimation/IceAge at the last minute. Cue outcry of TheyChangedItNowItSucks.

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* TheScrappy: Juniper, from the 2013 movie, is considered a bizarre ''Gender'' Scrappy for being a FlatCharacter and evident of the gratuitous sexism the movie shows.
* SignatureScene:
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SignatureScene: The ''Liopleurodon'' snatching up the ''Eustreptospondlyus'' is easily the most memorable moment of the original series, and immediately put the former species on the map.
* SpecialEffectFailure:
** Patchi nearly allowing himself to be eaten in the 2013 film was seen as the most jarring and nightmarish in an otherwise unremarkable film.
* SoBadItsGood: Arguably the 2013 movie, with its inept childish dialogue, over-the-top cliché plot and gratuitous sexism. Others just see it as horrible, though.
* SpecialEffectFailure:
Even these shows weren't immune to this: the most common goofs are CG clipping errors (like when the mammoth's trunk "merges" with its tusk), wires from the animatronic models or parts of the people controlling them being visible, and shadow/reflection effects being messed up. Some are obvious (like the skin of the Opthalmosaurus puppet coming off in the birthing scene), others you only catch if you watch the clips frame-by-frame.
** The film has no lip synching, leading to speculation that it was supposed to be a serious documentary and was changed to a comedic film a la WesternAnimation/IceAge at the last minute. Cue outcry of TheyChangedItNowItSucks.
frame-by-frame.



* {{Squick}}:
** In "Spirits of the Ice Forest", a herd of ''Muttaburrasaurus'' is tormented by flies, which bite them on [[EarAche the insides of their ears]]. The idea of an insect entering an orifice to feed is enough to make most viewers shudder in disgust.
** Early on in the 2013 movie, a hatchling Patchi is defecated on by a larger dinosaur. This wouldn't be so bad if he hadn't received a ''gaping open wound'' in his frill less than a minute before.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Many a dinosaur fan and ''Walking with Dinosaurs'' fan have complained about the 2013 movie humanizing the animals too much.

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* {{Squick}}:
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{{Squick}}: In "Spirits of the Ice Forest", a herd of ''Muttaburrasaurus'' is tormented by flies, which bite them on [[EarAche the insides of their ears]]. The idea of an insect entering an orifice to feed is enough to make most viewers shudder in disgust.
** Early on in the 2013 movie, a hatchling Patchi is defecated on by a larger dinosaur. This wouldn't be so bad if he hadn't received a ''gaping open wound'' in his frill less than a minute before.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Many a dinosaur fan and ''Walking with Dinosaurs'' fan have complained about the 2013 movie humanizing the animals too much.
disgust.



* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: A subtle case as it is entirely due to ScienceMarchesOn, but the show is very much state of the art of dinosaurology in [[TheNineties the late '90s]]. This is specially true for "Death of a Dynasty", which is an indirect listing of [[PhlebotinumKilledTheDinosaurs various theories about the extinction of the dinosaurs]] culminating with the asteroid hit. The general feeling of the episode is that dinosaurs were doing bad and the asteroid either made it worse or put them out of their misery, which is smack down between pre-asteroid, pre-Dinosaur Renaissance attitudes ("Dinosaurs were outdated monstrosities doomed to extinction") and current ones ("Dinosaurs were doing alright and would still dominate today if it wasn't for the asteroid"). Another telling point is the bizarre depiction of ''Quetzalcoatlus'' as a marine skim feeder, which had just been proposed in 1996 and was debunked a decade later.



** Although the ''WWD'' movie got mostly negative and mixed reviews, the visuals have impressed mostly everyone, whether it's just the CGI or the 3D effects as well. The bulk of the critics single them out as the sole saving graces of the film.


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!! The 2013 Film:
* AngstWhatAngst: The deaths of Patchi and Scowler's entire family. By the next morning, they're done mourning their father, and the loss of their mother and siblings is never even mentioned.
* BetterOnDVD: For those who disliked the dialogue, at least. The Blu-ray release has the "Cretaceous Cut", which eliminates it completely.
* DesignatedVillain: Gorgon. He's treated as the main villain, and yet he's just a predator trying to survive and feed his pack. Probably justified, though, as the story is told from the point of view of his prey.
* SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames: In contrast to the film, the video game is much better received.
* TheScrappy: Juniper is considered a bizarre ''Gender'' Scrappy for being a FlatCharacter and evident of the gratuitous sexism the movie shows.
* SignatureScene: Patchi nearly allowing himself to be eaten was seen as the most jarring and nightmarish in an otherwise unremarkable film.
* SoBadItsGood: Sometimes seen this way with its inept childish dialogue, over-the-top cliché plot and gratuitous sexism. Others are not as forgiving, though.
* SpecialEffectFailure: The film has no lip synching, leading to speculation that it was supposed to be a serious documentary and was changed to a comedic film a la WesternAnimation/IceAge at the last minute. Cue outcry of TheyChangedItNowItSucks.
* {{Squick}}: There is a scene early on where a hatchling Patchi is defecated on by a larger dinosaur. This wouldn't be so bad if he hadn't received a ''gaping open wound'' in his frill less than a minute before.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Many a dinosaur fan and ''Walking with Dinosaurs'' fan have complained about the 2013 movie humanizing the animals too much.
* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Although the film got mostly negative and mixed reviews, the visuals have impressed mostly everyone, whether it's just the CGI or the 3D effects as well. The bulk of the critics single them out as the sole saving graces of the film.
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** The Walking with Trilogy (''Dinosaurs'', ''Beasts'', and ''Monsters'') is the most well-known and beloved prehistoric documentaries ever made, and both the Creator/TheBBC and Creator/DiscoveryChannel try to repeat their success with other dinosaur documentaries but none of them come close to the popularity of the original trilogy.

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** The Walking with Trilogy (''Dinosaurs'', ''Beasts'', and ''Monsters'') is the most well-known and beloved prehistoric documentaries ever made, and both the Creator/TheBBC and Creator/DiscoveryChannel try to repeat their success with other dinosaur documentaries but none of them come close to the popularity of the original trilogy.
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** The ''Utahraptors'', largely for the same reason described under UncannyValley.
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** TyrannosaurusRex in the final episode. First, she loses her eggs after volcanic activity kills the embryos. Then, she seeks a new mate and then drives him away, but after laying twelve only three hatch. ''Then'', one of her babies dies, implicitly at the teeth of its own siblings. Then she is fatally injured by an ''Ankylosaurus'' [[MamaBear while trying to protect them]] and suffers a slow agonizing death shortly after. The only saving grace is that her death meant she didn't have to die in the mass extinction.

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** TyrannosaurusRex The mother ''Tyrannosaurus rex'' in the final episode. First, she loses her eggs after volcanic activity kills the embryos. Then, she seeks a new mate and then drives him away, but after laying twelve only three hatch. ''Then'', one of her babies dies, implicitly at the teeth of its own siblings. Then she is fatally injured by an ''Ankylosaurus'' [[MamaBear while trying to protect them]] and suffers a slow agonizing death shortly after. The only saving grace is that her death meant she didn't have to die in the mass extinction.
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* EvenBetterSequel: ''Beasts'' and ''Monsters'' got even more acclaim and have aged significantly better than ''Dinosaurs''.

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* EvenBetterSequel: ''Beasts'' and ''Monsters'' got even more acclaim and have has aged significantly better than ''Dinosaurs''.
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* DesignatedVillain: Of the 3D movie, Gorgon. He's treated as the main villain, and yet just a predator trying to survive and feed his pack. Probably justified, though, as the story is told from the point of view of his prey.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: Believe it or not, the TV series' premise of a documentary was actually what Creator/StevenSpielberg and Creator/GeorgeLucas both originally wanted for ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime''. It was supposed to have no dialog save for the narrator documenting the young dinosaurs separated from their herds trying to survive together. But to make the film appealing to children, they abandoned this idea and got actors and actresses to do the voices instead.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: Believe it or not, the TV series' premise of a documentary was actually what Creator/StevenSpielberg and Creator/GeorgeLucas both originally wanted for ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime''. It was supposed to have no dialog save for the narrator documenting the young dinosaurs separated from their herds trying to survive together. But to make the film appealing to children, they abandoned this idea and got actors and actresses to do the voices instead. Ironically, this would also happen to the 2013 film, but as the decision was made late in production, it doesn't work nearly as well.



** The film has no lip synching, leading to speculation that it was supposed to be a serious documentary and was changed to a comedic film a la WesternAnimation/IceAge at last minute. Cue outcry of TheyChangedItNowItSucks.

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** The film has no lip synching, leading to speculation that it was supposed to be a serious documentary and was changed to a comedic film a la WesternAnimation/IceAge at the last minute. Cue outcry of TheyChangedItNowItSucks.



** Another persistent issue was Overscan. When the first series was made in 1999, [=HDTVs=] and other flatscreens weren't really a thing yet and many CRT [=TVs=] had overscan where you wouldn't see the full picture, so watching the show today brings out these quirks. Many compositions have dinosaurs either "pop" in suddenly at the edges or be visible through the slight black border of the background plate, and many shots slide the frame around to give the illusion of camera shake (to save on tracking the CG to a moving camera), but this often reveals the edges of the live-action picture.
** Yet another trick the show used was blue-screening plants to the bottom of the frame, which helps a lot in hiding foot contacts or having to composite around ground plants. This works better in some episodes than it does in others, but in Death of a Dynasty, the bare plains make it rather obvious when they're being used. As with overscan, this was much less obvious on blurrier CRT [=TVs=] when the show first aired.

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** The level of detail on the models has also not aged too well, as skin detailing is very vague. Many dinosaurs were also modeled at the same scale, which can cause issues where a smaller ''Polacanthus'' is walking around with more detail-per-foot compared to the larger ''Iquanodon'' around him. And of course, the detail of the models cannot stand up to what's possible on a hand puppet... but hand puppets often have movements that make it obvious that they're hand puppets, which the CGI does not suffer from thanks to well-crafted animations.
** Another persistent trick the show used was obscuring the foot contacts of the animals, which are one of the hardest things to do in CG. This was often done by compositing in real plants in front of the creatures or by cutting out bits of the environment in the real shot and moving them upwards to obscure the feet, and once you notice it, the trick is immediately obvious. While it works better in some episodes than it does in others, in Death of a Dynasty the bare ash plains make it rather obvious when they're being used. As with overscan, this was much less obvious on blurrier CRT [=TVs=] when the show first aired.
** In tandem with the above, another
issue was is Overscan. When the first series was made in 1999, [=HDTVs=] and other flatscreens weren't really a thing yet and many CRT [=TVs=] had overscan where you wouldn't see the full picture, so watching the show today brings out these quirks. Many compositions have dinosaurs either "pop" in suddenly at the edges or be visible through the slight black border of the background plate, and many shots slide the frame around to give the illusion of camera shake (to save on tracking the CG to a moving camera), camera; the series only rarely uses real moving shots with ground contact), but this often reveals the edges of the live-action picture.
** Yet another trick
composition where the show used was blue-screening plants to the bottom of the frame, which helps a lot in hiding foot contacts or having to composite around ground plants. This works better in some episodes than it does in others, but in Death of a Dynasty, the bare plains make it rather obvious when they're being used. As with overscan, this was much less obvious on blurrier CRT [=TVs=] when the show first aired.various scene elements have their varying edges visible.
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* FirstInstallmentWins: ''Beasts,'' and ''Monsters'' are also well-liked, but ''Walking with Dinosaurs'' is the most iconic of series to the general public.
** Walking with trilogy (Dinosaurs, Beasts, and Monsters) is the most well-known and beloved prehistoric documentaries ever made, both the Creator/TheBBC and Creator/DiscoveryChannel try to repeat the success with other dinosaur documentaries but none of them coming close to the popularity of the original trilogy.

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* FirstInstallmentWins: ''Beasts,'' and ''Monsters'' are also well-liked, well-liked and are better in many ways, but ''Walking with Dinosaurs'' is the most iconic of series to the general public.
public because, well, [[EverythingsBetterWithDinosaurs it's the one with dinosaurs in it]]. This was acknowledged by the producers during development: they originally wanted to cover the era shown in ''Beasts'', but settled on ''Dinosaurs'' as they are incontestably more popular, and its success would help turn people's eyes to ''Beasts'' and the era of history it covered. This proved to be a benefit, as they underestimated the challenges of rendering fur in CGI.
** The Walking with trilogy (Dinosaurs, Beasts, Trilogy (''Dinosaurs'', ''Beasts'', and Monsters) ''Monsters'') is the most well-known and beloved prehistoric documentaries ever made, and both the Creator/TheBBC and Creator/DiscoveryChannel try to repeat the their success with other dinosaur documentaries but none of them coming come close to the popularity of the original trilogy.
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** Another persistent issue was Overscan. When the first series was made in 1999, [=HDTVs=] weren't really a thing yet and many CRT [=TVs=] had overscan where you wouldn't see the full picture, so watching the show today brings out these quirks. Many compositions have dinosaurs either "pop" in suddenly at the edges or be visible through the slight black border, and many shots slide around the frame to give the illusion of camera shake (to save on tracking the CG to a moving camera), but this often reveals the edges of the live-action picture.

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** Another persistent issue was Overscan. When the first series was made in 1999, [=HDTVs=] and other flatscreens weren't really a thing yet and many CRT [=TVs=] had overscan where you wouldn't see the full picture, so watching the show today brings out these quirks. Many compositions have dinosaurs either "pop" in suddenly at the edges or be visible through the slight black border, border of the background plate, and many shots slide around the frame around to give the illusion of camera shake (to save on tracking the CG to a moving camera), but this often reveals the edges of the live-action picture.
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** The huge theropod ''[[UsefulNotes/StockDinosaursTrueDinosaurs Giganotosaurus]]'' with its memorable predation upon the gigantic [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauropoda sauropod]] ''[[UsefulNotes/StockDinosaursTrueDinosaurs Argentinosaurus]]'' may be counted as another example. It's interesting both ''Giganotosaurus'' and ''[[UsefulNotes/StockDinosaursTrueDinosaurs Spinosaurus]]'' (the latter became stock after ''Film/JurassicParkIII'') achieved their popularity in the same year (2001).
** The goose-like dinosaur ''[[UsefulNotes/StockDinosaursTrueDinosaurs Therizinosaurus]]'' with its [[WolverineClaws giant claws]] that it uses to drive off a ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeLargeTheropods Tarbosaurus]]'', as well as being a unusual [[VegetarianCarnivore herbivorous theropod]].



** The gruelling fight between the pack of ''Giganotosaurus'' and ''Argentinosaurus'' from ''Chased by Dinosaurs''.



** The ''Argentinosaurus'' from ''Chased by Dinosaurs''. Their faces are taller, shorter and more forward facing than other sauropods, giving them a weird humanoid look. This is even more noticeable when looked from the front.

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