History YMMV / Vikings

3rd Feb '18 11:54:48 PM karategal
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** Is Athelwulf, son of Ecbert, a noble and pious warrior who simply works to defend his country, or is he a violent, bloodthirsty fundamentalist who is ultimately no better than the Vikings he so despises?

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** Is Athelwulf, Aethelwulf, son of Ecbert, a noble and pious warrior who simply works to defend his country, or is he a violent, bloodthirsty fundamentalist who is ultimately no better than the Vikings he so despises?



** The absolute nadir of this comes mid-season 4; with the downfall of Ragnar, innocents are dying left and right, including two unborn children and a toddler, Siggy, that dies of neglect, and you cannot really root for anyone anymore: Ragnar is now a decrepit junkie, Floki has become a paranoid wreck, Lagertha is no less ruthless than her ex-husband, Aslaug only cares for herself and her children... and the Franks and the English [[CrapsackWorld are no better at all]].

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** The absolute nadir of this comes mid-season mid-Season 4; with the downfall of Ragnar, innocents are dying left and right, including two unborn children and a toddler, Siggy, that dies of neglect, and you cannot really root for anyone anymore: Ragnar is now a decrepit junkie, Floki has become a paranoid wreck, Lagertha is no less ruthless than her ex-husband, Aslaug only cares for herself and her children... and the Franks and the English [[CrapsackWorld are no better at all]].



** Lagertha has developed into one as of Season 5 if not Season 4. Despite her pettiness, hypocrisy and the like her fans continue to put her on a pedestal.

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** Lagertha has developed into one as of Season 5 5, if not Season 4. Despite her pettiness, hypocrisy hypocrisy, and the like like, her fans continue to put her on a pedestal.



** Thorunn was likable in Season 2 in her journey from slave girl to action girl, but in mid-way through season three things take a sharp turn downwards; after receiving a nasty scar in battle, she becomes consumed with self-pity, convinced that Bjorn won't want to be with her anymore even though he obviously still loves her. Her driving him away and [[spoiler: eventually abandoning her child to Aslaug's care]] due to her own {{wangst}} killed her popularity and ended her up here.

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** Thorunn was likable in Season 2 in her journey from slave girl to action girl, but in mid-way through season three Season 3 things take a sharp turn downwards; after receiving a nasty scar in battle, she becomes consumed with self-pity, convinced that Bjorn won't want to be with her anymore even though he obviously still loves her. Her driving him away and [[spoiler: eventually abandoning her child to Aslaug's care]] due to her own {{wangst}} killed her popularity and ended her up here.
1st Feb '18 10:17:34 PM Thorion
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** Lagertha has developed into one as of Season 5 if not Season 4. Despite her pettiness, hypocrisy and the like her fans continue to put her on a pedestal.
6th Jan '18 4:03:05 PM Thorion
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* HilariousInHindsight: The Edison Marshall novel "The Viking" featured a one-eyed bear whom the protagonist Ogier called "Ragnar's Brother." Fast forward to this show where Ragnar actually does have a brother and is one with a bear motif.

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* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
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The Edison Marshall novel "The Viking" featured a one-eyed bear whom the protagonist Ogier called "Ragnar's Brother." Fast forward to this show where Ragnar actually does have a brother and is one with a bear motif.motif.
** The Vikings issue of comic book series "The World Around Us", a series from the 1960's, featured a Hrafna-Floki Vilgerdarson that bears an uncanny resemblance to Gustaf Skarsgard who portrays the same figure in this series.
4th Jan '18 10:16:26 AM Fireblood
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Rollo's rape of Floki's slave. Rollo doesn't commit rape ever again, even though due to the individual being a slave it does not count. Athelstan does observe that a freeman may rape or kill a slave and be innocent but with Rollo it just seems out of character and the slave could have been raped by some random individual and there would be no difference.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Rollo's rape of Floki's slave. Rollo doesn't commit rape ever again, even though due to the individual being a slave it does not count.count to them. Athelstan does observe that a freeman may rape or kill a slave and be innocent but with Rollo it just seems out of character and the slave could have been raped by some random individual and there would be no difference.



** ValuesDissonance aside, some fans loathe Rollo for his background as an unrepentant rapist, and feel that his "redemption" character arc completely sweeps that issue under the rug. These people seem to ignore the fact that due to the individual being a slave it doesn't count. He's still a generally popular character.

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** ValuesDissonance aside, some fans loathe Rollo for his background as an unrepentant rapist, and feel that his "redemption" character arc completely sweeps that issue under the rug. These people seem to ignore the fact that due to the individual being a slave it doesn't count. He's still a generally popular character.
4th Jan '18 6:51:02 AM Thorion
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* UnfortunateImplications: C'mon, ''Vikings''....in [[TheWarOnTerror this day and age]], was making the Islamic Arab a ''cannibal'' REALLY the best idea?
4th Jan '18 6:08:14 AM BoredMe
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* UnfortunateImplications: C'mon, ''Vikings''....in [[TheWarOnTerror this day and age]], was making the Islamic Arab a ''cannibal'' REALLY the best idea?
3rd Jan '18 7:29:12 PM Thorion
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** ValuesDissonance aside, some fans loathe Rollo for his background as an unrepentant rapist, and feel that his "redemption" character arc completely sweeps that issue under the rug. He's still a generally popular character.

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** ValuesDissonance aside, some fans loathe Rollo for his background as an unrepentant rapist, and feel that his "redemption" character arc completely sweeps that issue under the rug. These people seem to ignore the fact that due to the individual being a slave it doesn't count. He's still a generally popular character.


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** Rollo counts as well with many fans painting him as an unrepentant rapist never mind the fact that due the individual was a slave it does not count as rape.
2nd Jan '18 9:13:58 PM Fireblood
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* OneSceneWonder: Tostig appears in several scenes in two episodes, but has little more than 5 minutes of screentime. Still many consider him one of the most memorable characters in the entire show.

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Tostig appears in several scenes in two episodes, but has little more than 5 minutes of screentime. Still many consider him one of the most memorable characters in the entire show.
** The singing slave girl who is about to be sacrificed.
2nd Jan '18 9:12:20 PM Fireblood
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** ValuesDissonance aside, some fans loathe Rollo for his background as an unrepentant rapist, and feel that his "redemption" character arc completely sweeps that issue under the rug. These people seem to ignore the fact that due to the individual being a slave it doesn't count. He's still a generally popular character.

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** ValuesDissonance aside, some fans loathe Rollo for his background as an unrepentant rapist, and feel that his "redemption" character arc completely sweeps that issue under the rug. These people seem to ignore the fact that due to the individual being a slave it doesn't count. He's still a generally popular character.



** Rollo counts as well with many fans painting him as an unrepentant rapist never mind the fact that due the individual was a slave it does not count as rape.



** Thorunn was likable in Season 2 in her journey from slave girl to action girl, but in mid-way through season three things take a sharp turn downwards; after receiving a nasty scar in battle, she becomes consumed with self pity, convinced that Bjorn won't want to be with her anymore even though he obviously still loves her. Her driving him away and [[spoiler: eventually abandoning her child to Aslaug's care]] due to her own {{wangst}} killed her popularity and ended her up here.

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** Thorunn was likable in Season 2 in her journey from slave girl to action girl, but in mid-way through season three things take a sharp turn downwards; after receiving a nasty scar in battle, she becomes consumed with self pity, self-pity, convinced that Bjorn won't want to be with her anymore even though he obviously still loves her. Her driving him away and [[spoiler: eventually abandoning her child to Aslaug's care]] due to her own {{wangst}} killed her popularity and ended her up here.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: In the sagas, the princess Harald had the hots for was named Gyda. Just like Ragnar's daughter in the show. Now here is a thought for you: What if the princess Harald fell hard for was Ragnar's Gyda? In Season 2, she would have become a young woman in her mid-teens. Then this young, eager Viking shows up and falls for her. It's Harald before he had fine hair. Gyda is not impressed by the young Harald. So Harald interprets it that he must live up to Ragnar and the best way to do that is become king of all of Norway.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: In the sagas, the princess Harald had the hots for was named Gyda. Just like Ragnar's daughter in the show. Now here is a thought for you: What what if the princess Harald fell hard for was Ragnar's Gyda? In Season 2, she would have become a young woman in her mid-teens. Then this young, eager Viking shows up and falls for her. It's Harald before he had fine hair. Gyda is not impressed by the young Harald. So Harald interprets it that he must live up to Ragnar and the best way to do that is become king of all of Norway.
30th Dec '17 10:37:16 PM Light_shade
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** Ivar and Bishop Heahmund. Much like his father, Ivar seems to have a fascination with a Christian priest. He's shown to be impressed with Bishop Heahmund's battle prowess and becomes so fascinated with him that this Viking who hates Christians actually keeps him alive, drags him back to Norway, and has philosophical debates while convincing him to fight for the Vikings. Heahmund for his part seems to be impressed with Ivar's strategic skills and how brutal he is. Hirst even said in interviews that there is an instant connection between the two of them when they first lay eyes on each other.
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