History YMMV / UnbalanceXUnbalance

16th Jul '13 2:18:33 AM maxwellsilver
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* MoralEventHorizon: The infamous NoHoldsBarredBeatdown Jin-Ho gave to one of her '''female''' classmates upon finding out she and other girls picked up on Ji-Soo. Some people see it like she deserved it (Ji-Soo's face ended up all beaten to a pulp for trying to fight back against three girls and they striped off her skirt). Some other people thought Jin-Ho lost a lot of character value after this (up to the point of stop reading in some cases) because he was never called back for hurting a girl (of note here is that the same characters Jin-Ho stood up for told him he went too far by the way). The bullies themselves just took it as it came (the leader of said gang said it was fault of the bully girl in the first place, even when he told them not to pick any fights just for the sake of it)

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* MoralEventHorizon: The infamous NoHoldsBarredBeatdown Jin-Ho gave to one of her his '''female''' classmates upon finding out she and other girls picked up on Ji-Soo. Some people see it like she deserved it (Ji-Soo's face ended up all beaten to a pulp for trying to fight back against three girls and they striped off her skirt). Some other people thought Jin-Ho lost a lot of character value after this (up to the point of stop reading in some cases) because he was never called back for hurting a girl (of note here is that the same characters Jin-Ho stood up for told him he went too far by the way). The bullies themselves just took it as it came (the leader of said gang said it was fault of the bully girl in the first place, even when he told them not to pick any fights just for the sake of it)
16th Jul '13 2:17:13 AM maxwellsilver
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* ShipMates: Ami realized that she would greatly benefit form shipping her friend Ji-Soo [[spoiler:and her love rival Jin-Ho]]. And so she did.
* MarySue: It's implied that some of Ji-Soo's classmates dislike her because she's good at athletics, has good grades, and a lot of guys find her attractive (we don't get to see much of this thanks to the kind of teachers in her school, though).


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* MarySue: It's implied that some of Ji-Soo's classmates dislike her because she's good at athletics, has good grades, and a lot of guys find her attractive (we don't get to see much of this thanks to the kind of teachers in her school, though).


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* ShipMates: Ami realized that she would greatly benefit form shipping her friend Ji-Soo [[spoiler:and her love rival Jin-Ho]]. And so she did.
30th Jul '12 12:02:30 PM xanderglz
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* ShipMates: [[spoiler:Ami realized that she would greatly benefit form shipping her friend Ji-Soo and her love rival Jin-Ho. And so she did.]]

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* ShipMates: [[spoiler:Ami Ami realized that she would greatly benefit form shipping her friend Ji-Soo and [[spoiler:and her love rival Jin-Ho.Jin-Ho]]. And so she did.]]



* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Ami [[spoiler: encouraging Ji-Soo to make a move and get Jin-Ho: is she still trying to pull the strings to make someone else take Jin-Ho out of her way to Hae-Young, or does she really care about Ji-Soo and is trying to help her get rid of her doubts and inferiority complex? You be the judge.]]
* MoralEventHorizon: The infamous NoHoldsBarredBeatdown Jin-Ho gave to one of her '''female''' upper classmates upon finding out she and other girls picked up on Ji-Soo. Some people see it like she deserved it (Ji-Soo's face ended up all beaten to a pulp for trying to fight back against three girls and they striped off her skirt). Some other people thought Jin-Ho lost a lot of character value after this (up to the point of stop reading in some cases) because he was never called back for hurting a girl (of note here is that the same characters Jin-Ho stood up for told him he went too far by the way). The bullies themselves just took it as it came (the leader of said gang said it was fault of the bully girl in the first place, even when he told them not to pick any fights just for the sake of it)

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Ami [[spoiler: encouraging Ji-Soo to make a move and get Jin-Ho: is she still trying to pull the strings to make someone else take [[spoiler: Jin-Ho out of her way to Hae-Young, Hae-Young]], or does she really care about Ji-Soo and is trying to help her get rid of her doubts and inferiority complex? You be the judge.]]
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* MoralEventHorizon: The infamous NoHoldsBarredBeatdown Jin-Ho gave to one of her '''female''' upper classmates upon finding out she and other girls picked up on Ji-Soo. Some people see it like she deserved it (Ji-Soo's face ended up all beaten to a pulp for trying to fight back against three girls and they striped off her skirt). Some other people thought Jin-Ho lost a lot of character value after this (up to the point of stop reading in some cases) because he was never called back for hurting a girl (of note here is that the same characters Jin-Ho stood up for told him he went too far by the way). The bullies themselves just took it as it came (the leader of said gang said it was fault of the bully girl in the first place, even when he told them not to pick any fights just for the sake of it)
29th Jan '12 11:39:02 PM DraculaOnABike
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* MoralEventHorizon: The infamous NoHoldsBarredBeatdown Jin-Ho gave to one of her '''female''' upper classmates upon finding out she and other girls picked up on Ji-Soo. Some people see it like she deserved it (Ji-Soo's face ended up all beaten to a pulp for trying to fight back against three girls and they striped off her skirt). Some other people thought Jin-Ho lost a lot of character value after this (up to the point of stop reading in some cases) because he was never called back for hurting a girl (of note here is that the same characters Jin-Ho stood up for told him he went too far by the way). The bullies themselves just took it as it came (the leader of said gang said it was fault of the bully girl in the first place, even when he told them not to pick any fights just for the sake of it)

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* MoralEventHorizon: The infamous NoHoldsBarredBeatdown Jin-Ho gave to one of her '''female''' upper classmates upon finding out she and other girls picked up on Ji-Soo. Some people see it like she deserved it (Ji-Soo's face ended up all beaten to a pulp for trying to fight back against three girls and they striped off her skirt). Some other people thought Jin-Ho lost a lot of character value after this (up to the point of stop reading in some cases) because he was never called back for hurting a girl (of note here is that the same characters Jin-Ho stood up for told him he went too far by the way). The bullies themselves just took it as it came (the leader of said gang said it was fault of the bully girl in the first place, even when he told them not to pick any fights just for the sake of it)it)
** It's worth pointing out that the school faculty punished Jin-Ho by caning.
17th Jan '12 11:28:44 PM xanderglz
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* MarySue: It's implied why many of Ji-Soo's classmates dislike her it's because she's good at athletics, has good grades, and a lot of guys find her attractive (we don't get to see much of this thanks to the kind of teachers in her school, though).
* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Ami [[spoiler: encouraging Ji-Soo to make a move and get Jin-Ho: is she still trying to pull the strings to make someone else take Jin-Ho out of her way to Hae-Young, or does she really care about Ji-Soo and is trying to help her get rid of her doubts and inferiority complex? You be the judge.]]

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* MarySue: It's implied why many that some of Ji-Soo's classmates dislike her it's because she's good at athletics, has good grades, and a lot of guys find her attractive (we don't get to see much of this thanks to the kind of teachers in her school, though).
* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Ami [[spoiler: encouraging Ji-Soo to make a move and get Jin-Ho: is she still trying to pull the strings to make someone else take Jin-Ho out of her way to Hae-Young, or does she really care about Ji-Soo and is trying to help her get rid of her doubts and inferiority complex? You be the judge.]]]]
* MoralEventHorizon: The infamous NoHoldsBarredBeatdown Jin-Ho gave to one of her '''female''' upper classmates upon finding out she and other girls picked up on Ji-Soo. Some people see it like she deserved it (Ji-Soo's face ended up all beaten to a pulp for trying to fight back against three girls and they striped off her skirt). Some other people thought Jin-Ho lost a lot of character value after this (up to the point of stop reading in some cases) because he was never called back for hurting a girl (of note here is that the same characters Jin-Ho stood up for told him he went too far by the way). The bullies themselves just took it as it came (the leader of said gang said it was fault of the bully girl in the first place, even when he told them not to pick any fights just for the sake of it)
15th Jan '12 10:28:25 PM xanderglz
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* MarySue: It's implied why many of Ji-Soo's classmates dislike her it's because she's good at athletics, has good grades, and a lot of guys find her attractive (we don't get to see much of this thanks to the kind of teachers in her school, though).
* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Ami [[spoiler: encouraging Ji-Soo to make a move and get Jin-Ho: is she still trying to pull the strings to make someone else take Jin-Ho out of her way to Hae-Young, or does she really care about Ji-Soo and is trying to help her get rid of her doubts and inferiority complex? You be the judge.]]
26th Nov '11 8:53:28 AM MagBas
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* FetishFuel: "On your knees!" (when Ami blackmails Jin-Ho)

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* FetishFuel: "On your knees!" (when Ami blackmails Jin-Ho)
30th Oct '11 12:32:23 AM DeusHelios
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* ProtagonistCenteredMorality: Jin-Ho is eventually shown to be in the right for excessively beating up a female bully who couldn't even fight back by having everyone agree that she deserved to get beaten up.
** Where, exactly, do any characters say that Jin-Ho was justified in doing that? The only thing anyone says that remotely resembles that is this: after the fight between Jin-Ho and Hee-Chul, Hee-Chul and Han Sang-Hoo (another member of Hee-Chul's gang) talked about whether Jin-Ho could have won the fight if the teacher hadn't intervened (with the implication that they've never before met anyone who could win a fight against Hee-Chul), Hee-Chul says that Jin-Ho has a 50% chance of winning, and then he says, "Don't get upset about that! How much does losing a duel matter? After all, we're not true gangsters… and if we objectively examine the situation, it's clear that Seo-Young was in the wrong. So, let's forget about all this." In other words, Hee-Chul was telling Sang-Hoo that the female bully (Seo-Young) was wrong to do what she did to Ji-Soo, and that Sang-Hoo and the rest of the gang shouldn't continue holding a grudge against Jin-Ho and his friends.



* UnfortunateImplications: Excessive violence is apparently ok if it's against a woman: Jin is scolded for picking a fight with another boy who was trying to defend said girl rather than for beating a female bully who couldn't fight back to a pulp. In addition to that the boy defending said female bully ends up admitting that she deserved to getting beaten to a pulp for bully another girl. Given the content of other works by author he may simply hate women.
** That girl (Yoon Seo-Young) had beaten up Ji-Soo about as much as Jin-Ho beat up Seo-Yeong, and also forcibly pulled off Ji-Soo's skirt. And the story doesn't really defend Jin-Ho's actions either, because other "good" characters (Jin-Ho's friend Young-Gi and the teacher Hae-Young) say that Jin-Ho went too far. Also, it's never stated that Jin-Ho was punished for fighting with that other boy (Yang Hee-Chul) '''instead of''' for hitting Seo-Young -- for all we know, he was punished for both.[[hottip:*:What the teacher says is "I know that you took part in the fight to defend Ji-Soo, but you nevertheless deserve to be punished! No matter what the reasons, fighting is absolutely forbidden."]] And Hee-Chul wasn't defending Seo-Young just because she's a girl, it was also because she belonged to Hee-Chul's gang of delinquents, who had started a {{cycle of revenge}} with Jin-Ho and his friends eight chapters earlier. What's more, one of the other guys in that gang, Jang Min-Seok, was also willing to hit a girl (specifically, Ji-Soo), on two different occasions, both times with almost no provocation (unlike Jin-Ho). So basically, the story portrays Jin-Ho as being somewhat in the wrong for excessive violence, and does the same for Hee-Chul, but portrays Bae Jung-Hwa and Jang Min-Seok (who started the whole conflict -- they went into Jin-Ho's classroom looking to start some trouble there, harrassed Eun Ami, then assaulted Ji-Soo when she told them to leave Ami alone, and continued to seek revenge on Ji-Soo for daring to stand up to them) as being the worst ones.
29th Oct '11 7:50:42 AM DraculaOnABike
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** Where, exactly, do any characters say that Jin-Ho was justified in doing that? The only thing anyone says that remotely resembles that is this: after the fight between Jin-Ho and Hee-Chul, Hee-Chul and Han Sang-Hoo (another member of Hee-Chul's gang) talked about whether Jin-Ho could have won the fight if the teacher hadn't intervened (with the implication that they've never before met anyone who could win a fight against Hee-Chul), Hee-Chul says that Jin-Ho has a 50% chance of winning, and then he says, "Don't get upset about that! How much does losing a duel matter? After all, we're not true gangsters… and if we objectively examine the situation, it's clear that Seo-Young was in the wrong. So, let's forget about all this." In other words, Hee-Chul was telling Sang-Hoo that the female bully (Seo-Young) was wrong to do what she did to Ji-Soo, and that Sang-Hoo and the rest of the gang shouldn't continue holding a grudge against Jin-Ho and his friends.



** That girl (Yoon Seo-Young) had beaten up Ji-Soo about as much as Jin-Ho beat up Seo-Yeong, and also forcibly pulled off Ji-Soo's skirt. And the story doesn't really defend Jin-Ho's actions either, because other "good" characters (Jin-Ho's friend Young-Gi and the teacher Hae-Young) say that Jin-Ho went too far. Also, it's never stated that Jin-Ho was punished for fighting with that other boy (Yang Hee-Chul) '''instead of''' for hitting Seo-Young -- for all we know, he was punished for both.[[hottip:*:What the teacher says is "I know that you took part in the fight to defend Ji-Soo, but you nevertheless deserve to be punished! No matter what the reasons, fighting is absolutely forbidden."]] And Hee-Chul wasn't defending Seo-Young just because she's a girl, it was also because she belonged to Hee-Chul's gang of delinquents, who had started a {{cycle of revenge}} with Jin-Ho and his friends eight chapters earlier. What's more, one of the other guys in that gang, Jang Min-Seok, was also willing to hit a girl (specifically, Ji-Soo), on two different occasions, both times with almost no provocation (unlike Jin-Ho). So basically, the story portrays Jin-Ho as being somewhat in the wrong for excessive violence, and does the same for Hee-Chul, but portrays Bae Jung-Hwa and Jang Min-Seok (who started the whole conflict -- they went into Jin-Ho's classroom looking to start some trouble there, harrassed Ami Eun, then assaulted Ji-Soo when she told them to leave Ami alone, and continued to seek revenge on Ji-Soo for daring to stand up to them) as being the worst ones.

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** That girl (Yoon Seo-Young) had beaten up Ji-Soo about as much as Jin-Ho beat up Seo-Yeong, and also forcibly pulled off Ji-Soo's skirt. And the story doesn't really defend Jin-Ho's actions either, because other "good" characters (Jin-Ho's friend Young-Gi and the teacher Hae-Young) say that Jin-Ho went too far. Also, it's never stated that Jin-Ho was punished for fighting with that other boy (Yang Hee-Chul) '''instead of''' for hitting Seo-Young -- for all we know, he was punished for both.[[hottip:*:What the teacher says is "I know that you took part in the fight to defend Ji-Soo, but you nevertheless deserve to be punished! No matter what the reasons, fighting is absolutely forbidden."]] And Hee-Chul wasn't defending Seo-Young just because she's a girl, it was also because she belonged to Hee-Chul's gang of delinquents, who had started a {{cycle of revenge}} with Jin-Ho and his friends eight chapters earlier. What's more, one of the other guys in that gang, Jang Min-Seok, was also willing to hit a girl (specifically, Ji-Soo), on two different occasions, both times with almost no provocation (unlike Jin-Ho). So basically, the story portrays Jin-Ho as being somewhat in the wrong for excessive violence, and does the same for Hee-Chul, but portrays Bae Jung-Hwa and Jang Min-Seok (who started the whole conflict -- they went into Jin-Ho's classroom looking to start some trouble there, harrassed Ami Eun, Eun Ami, then assaulted Ji-Soo when she told them to leave Ami alone, and continued to seek revenge on Ji-Soo for daring to stand up to them) as being the worst ones.
29th Oct '11 5:26:56 AM DraculaOnABike
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** That girl (Yoon Seo-Young) had beaten up Ji-Soo about as much as Jin-Ho beat up Seo-Yeong, and also forcibly pulled off Ji-Soo's skirt. And the story doesn't really defend Jin-Ho's actions either, because other "good" characters (Jin-Ho's friend Young-Gi and the teacher Hae-Young) say that Jin-Ho went too far. Also, it's never stated that Jin-Ho was punished for fighting with that other boy (Yang Hee-Chul) '''instead of''' for hitting Seo-Yeong -- for all we know, he was punished for both.[[hottip:*:What the teacher says is "I know that you took part in the fight to defend Ji-Soo, but you nevertheless deserve to be punished! No matter what the reasons, fighting is absolutely forbidden."]] And Hee-Chul wasn't defending Seo-Young just because she's a girl, it was also because she belonged to Hee-Chul's gang of delinquents, who had started a {{cycle of revenge}} with Jin-Ho and his friends eight chapters earlier. What's more, one of the other guys in that gang, Jang Min-Seok, was also willing to hit a girl (specifically, Ji-Soo), on two different occasions, both times with almost no provocation (unlike Jin-Ho). So basically, the story portrays Jin-Ho as being somewhat in the wrong for excessive violence, and does the same for Hee-Chul, but portrays Bae Jung-Hwa and Jang Min-Seok (who started the whole conflict -- they went into Jin-Ho's classroom looking to start some trouble there, harrassed Ami Eun, then assaulted Ji-Soo when she told them to leave Ami alone, and continued to seek revenge on Ji-Soo for daring to stand up to them) as being the worst ones.

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** That girl (Yoon Seo-Young) had beaten up Ji-Soo about as much as Jin-Ho beat up Seo-Yeong, and also forcibly pulled off Ji-Soo's skirt. And the story doesn't really defend Jin-Ho's actions either, because other "good" characters (Jin-Ho's friend Young-Gi and the teacher Hae-Young) say that Jin-Ho went too far. Also, it's never stated that Jin-Ho was punished for fighting with that other boy (Yang Hee-Chul) '''instead of''' for hitting Seo-Yeong Seo-Young -- for all we know, he was punished for both.[[hottip:*:What the teacher says is "I know that you took part in the fight to defend Ji-Soo, but you nevertheless deserve to be punished! No matter what the reasons, fighting is absolutely forbidden."]] And Hee-Chul wasn't defending Seo-Young just because she's a girl, it was also because she belonged to Hee-Chul's gang of delinquents, who had started a {{cycle of revenge}} with Jin-Ho and his friends eight chapters earlier. What's more, one of the other guys in that gang, Jang Min-Seok, was also willing to hit a girl (specifically, Ji-Soo), on two different occasions, both times with almost no provocation (unlike Jin-Ho). So basically, the story portrays Jin-Ho as being somewhat in the wrong for excessive violence, and does the same for Hee-Chul, but portrays Bae Jung-Hwa and Jang Min-Seok (who started the whole conflict -- they went into Jin-Ho's classroom looking to start some trouble there, harrassed Ami Eun, then assaulted Ji-Soo when she told them to leave Ami alone, and continued to seek revenge on Ji-Soo for daring to stand up to them) as being the worst ones.
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