History YMMV / UminekoNoNakuKoroNi

** Really, ''many'' statements, from "Shkanoyasutrice" to [[spoiler:Tooya having written Episode 3 to 6]], are {{Fanon}}, due to series' very concept. The answers that are stated explicitly and unambiguously enough that they can't be denied aren't that many.

* CompleteMonster: See the Umineko section on [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Monster/VisualNovels this page]] for details.

* {{Narm}}: Enough to have its own page [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Narm/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi here]], though most examples are from the anime.

* CompleteMonster: [[Monster/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi See here]].

** George: DoggedNiceGuy who has an enlightened view of the world through his years of experience, and who respects Shannon as a person, or a borderline-sexist who takes everything far more seriously than he should? He may even have [[Yandere]] tendencies (possessive subtype) to boot.

** George: DoggedNiceGuy who has an enlightened view of the world through his years of experience, and who respects Shannon as a person, or a borderline-sexist who takes everything far more seriously than he should?

* BaseBreaker: Rosa. She's considered a MemeticBadass MamaBear based on her actions in [=EP2=], [[spoiler: where she fends off a horde of goat butlers using a shotgun and a gold ingot in her purse in order to protect herself and her daughter, which is one of the times where Rosa demonstrates that she sincerely loves Maria and is legitimately sorry for her abusive behavior]], and a horribly AbusiveParent sarcastically called "World's Best Mother" by the fans for the way she treats Maria and gets what she deserves any time she's killed, [[spoiler: especially in [=EP4=] when Maria uses her new witch abilities to kill Rosa over and over again after she destroys Sakutaro, all the while Rosa is screaming she never loved Maria. This scene is implied to be AllJustADream, so it could be that deep down Maria is afraid that Rosa really doesn't love her.]] Given the fact that [[spoiler: the Ushiromiya Family is intentionally being displayed at their worst on the island, instead of being like that all the time, and that some of their actions are the result of twisted gossip]], it's safe to assume that Rosa does indeed have legitimate love for Maria, but that love is very conflicted and could either persevere over hatred or shatter completely given the course of events.

* {{Fan Dumb}}: People who support the [[spoiler: Shannon/Kanon/Beatrice]] theory are labeled as "idiots that can't use their brain to solve the series" and then denies the theory nevermind that the point of the entire series is to create your own truth without denying someone else' opinion.

*** Might be easier to figure out if she weren't voluntarily tripping through the FaceHeelRevolvingDoor at every turn.

* [[spoiler:Yasu]] and everything related to [[spoiler:[[AmbiguousGender him/her]]]] has been subject to much debate by the fandom.

* ClicheStorm - Episode 4's legendary [[spoiler:fight between Krauss and a goatman]] has the antagonists invoke NothingCanStopUsNow, {{Retirony}}, and the typical VillainBall move of 'promises are made to be broken' multiple times in quick succession, finishing it off with some GretzkyHasTheBall boxing gibberish. It's [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] the whole way through.
** That entire scene was basically a [[TakeThat ruthless parody]] of {{Nasuverse}}-style numerical "power levels". Though it was likely a fun jab, because Ryukishi07 and Nasu have a good relationship (as per Ciel's {{Expy}} in {{Higurashi}}).
*** You think too hard. Dragonball. Scouters. Sudden Power-ups and downs depending on emotional state. Heck, they reference the Dragonball tournament. Nasu ranks are set in stone for everyone, rather than fluctuating.
*** Probably a reference to both, since the power levels don't change at all, but multiple things factor in as combat multipliers.

** The TIP "Jessica's Good Luck Charms", Jessica wants to make Kanon dream of her, but she messes up the ritual and makes ''Gōda'' dream of her instead. Yep, JessiGoh. Didn't see that one coming.

** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuo7VumEIuM One of Golden Fantasia's endings]] hints at an uncanny WillBern; maybe not so uncanny though, considering it's [[KindHeartedCatLover Will]] and [[CatGirl Bern]].

** Beatrice II is the most miserable of all when you think about it. [[spoiler:Her mother died giving birth to her. At a very young age she was shut in Kuwadorian and forbidden to leave. She grows up living a comfortable, but boring and empty life, knowing very little about the outside world. While she is still a teenager, she is raped and impregnated by her own father, becoming a mother without understanding what's happening to her. And when someone finally comes to get her out of her prison, she doesn't get to spend 2 hours in the outside world before dying anonymously, as though she had never existed. Even Rosa represses her memories of their meeting.]] In other words, she is pitiful from her birth to even after her death.

*** ItGotWorse. [[spoiler: She gets accused of ''cheating on her husband and having a sexual relationship with Kinzo''. Then Bernkastel brutally tells her in her that everything that's been basically keeping her sane until that moment... was all a delusion on her part. They basically make her life hell in that arc. And even that's an understatement.]]

** What, no sympathy for Sakutarou? Pretty much the only character that doesn't have any malicious tendencies or a fragile psyche, he was basically Maria's only friend and was constantly trying to cheer her up by telling her that her mother loved her very much and was busy working for her. [[spoiler: And then Rosa goes and rips him apart right in front of Maria, then makes it worse by declaring to Maria "Sakutarou is dead", which made it impossible for Beatrice to revive him. At least until Ange managed to do so in 1998.]]

** Kinzo is popular in America, probably because of his association with [[{{Leitmotif}} la divina tragedia]] / [[MemeticMutation OH DESIRE]] and, sometime in the fall of 2009, [[MemeticMutation an explosion of pictures, HUNDREDS of them, with his "troll face" / "rape face" photoshopped onto them, with the claim that "Everything's Better With Kinzo. No Exceptions".]]

** The English fandom, you mean. Most of the Japanese fandom seems to be 99% sure that [[spoiler: Lion]] is a girl. Which is ironic because most of the yaoi fandom comes from Japan...

*** One of the argumentes that gets ugly is when [[spoiler: deciding whether or not this series was a mystery to begin with.]]

* GuideDangIt: One answer at the end of Episode 7 is actually in the TIPS of Episode 6, and most people probably missed it. [[spoiler:If you Execute Erika, you will see her fate in the real world (that she fell from the boat and went missing, with her parents thinking that she washed off on Rokkenjima). The "Rokkenjima accident" is called the "Rokkenjima ''Explosion'' Accident", while it was left vague in Episode 4.]]

-->'''Beatrice:''' (in red) You. Are. Incompetent. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnH9Gbw4ybk Uhihihyahyahyahyaaaaaa!!]]

* HilariousinHindsight: [[http://g.e-hentai.org/g/291164/b5048f9123/ One fan made comic]] ([=NSFW=]), located after [=EP5=] features battler creating the 6th game but instead of the typical visual novel he creates a fighting game. It even says Magic fighting game, Battle of the Golden Witch coming soon...

* {{Narm}}: Has its own page [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Narm/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi here]].

* {{Narm}}: Surprisingly little, but the [="UuuuuWWWaaah"=] yell in the original [=VNs=] might count. There is also that little scene with Maria[[spoiler:'s head rolling on Rosa's plate.]]

* [[spoiler:WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: Maria, so very much so in [=EP4=]. Not just her repeated slaughter of her own mother, but her diary suggested Maria was getting increasingly more and more destructive with her abilities.]]

** There's also the [=TIP=] [[http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb0ufdxwFt1r3cb6zo2_500.png "Angel of 17 Years"]], which is dedicated entirely to crack HoYay pairings (with Ange and Virgilia being the [[YaoiFangirl Yaoi Fangirls]] gushing over them, though it's obviously PlayedForLaughs).

[[AmbiguouslyGay Ronove]]: "Pukuku! [[HoYay You mustn't forget [=RonoBato=]]]."