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5th May '16 10:32:46 AM FlakyPorcupine
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Calypso both in and out of universe. His portrayals vary as does where his powers come from and one's interpretation can come from whether or not one considers the games to be in canon with one another. He's pretty stoic in Black but very hammy in the first game. In Twisted metal 1, his powers came from a demon named Black, in 2 he stole them from the demon minion, in the reboot, the preacher implies that he is the devil himself. His interactions with his daughter seem to cast him as a more WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, and the control he has over his power of wishes is put into question.

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Calypso both in and out of universe. His portrayals vary as does where his powers come from and one's interpretation can come from whether or not one considers the games to be in canon with one another. He's pretty stoic in Black but very hammy in the first game. In Twisted metal 1, his powers came from a demon named Black, in 2 he stole them from the demon minion, in the reboot, the preacher implies that he is the devil himself. His interactions with his daughter seem to cast him as a more WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, and the control he has over his power of wishes is put into question.



* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Sweet Tooth and Dollface's stories in the PS3 rival. The more the story advances, the more the player learns about how horrible both of them are, and has no reason to want them to get what they want. [[spoiler: Probably why they end up as [[AssholeVictim Asshole Victims]].]] Although Sweet Tooth hasn't been exactly the nicest guy, it's kinda expected.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: DarknessInducedAudienceApathy:
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Sweet Tooth and Dollface's stories in the PS3 rival. The more the story advances, the more the player learns about how horrible both of them are, and has no reason to want them to get what they want. [[spoiler: Probably why they end up as [[AssholeVictim Asshole Victims]].]] Although Sweet Tooth [[SerialKiller hasn't been exactly the nicest guy, guy]], it's kinda expected.



* FunnyAneurysmMoment: The Antarctica level in ''Twisted Metal 2''. Back in 1996, the imagery of [[GlobalWarming collapsing polar glaciers]] wasn't quite so unsettling.

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The Antarctica level in ''Twisted Metal 2''. Back in 1996, the imagery of [[GlobalWarming collapsing polar glaciers]] wasn't quite so unsettling.



* HollywoodHomely: {{Deconstructed|Trope}} with Dollface in the [=PS3=] remake. She is a former supermodel who got [[MinorInjuryOverReaction a (minor) scar on her face]], decided that [[BeautyToBeast her beauty was ruined]] ([[BlatantLies even though it clearly wasn't]], [[OnlySaneMan as her doctor could plainly see]]), and started wearing a mask to cover up her "imperfection." David Jaffe [[http://comic-con.gamespot.com/comic-con-uncut/p-12.html?tag=topslot;title;5 said (about 14 minutes in)]] that the character is [[AcceptableTargets a satire of the extreme standards of beauty that women are faced with by the media and pop culture...]] while [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial flatly denying]] that [[TakeThat the character was based on his ex-wife]].

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{{Deconstructed|Trope}} with Dollface in the [=PS3=] remake. She is a former supermodel who got [[MinorInjuryOverReaction a (minor) scar on her face]], decided that [[BeautyToBeast her beauty was ruined]] ([[BlatantLies even though it clearly wasn't]], [[OnlySaneMan as her doctor could plainly see]]), and started wearing a mask to cover up her "imperfection." David Jaffe [[http://comic-con.gamespot.com/comic-con-uncut/p-12.html?tag=topslot;title;5 said (about 14 minutes in)]] that the character is [[AcceptableTargets a satire of the extreme standards of beauty that women are faced with by the media and pop culture...]] while [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial flatly denying]] that [[TakeThat the character was based on his ex-wife]].



* IAmNotShazam: The MonsterClown is Needles Kane. His ''car'' is Sweet Tooth. The [[CanonDiscontinuity third and fourth games]] screw this up and call the clown Sweet Tooth, but Incog Inc. makes a point of having characters only ever call him Needles.

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* IAmNotShazam: IAmNotShazam:
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The MonsterClown is Needles Kane. His ''car'' is Sweet Tooth. The [[CanonDiscontinuity third and fourth games]] screw this up and call the clown Sweet Tooth, but Incog Inc. makes a point of having characters only ever call him Needles.



* IdiotPlot: ''Twisted Metal III'' is the worst offender. Among the wishes of the competitors include; wanting to have a barbecue, wanting to "hang with (his) homies", wanting to party all night long, and wanting people to see (his) inner child. Why in the world would ''anyone'' go through a life-threatening contest to get things they could do themselves?

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''Twisted Metal III'' is the worst offender. Among the wishes of the competitors include; wanting to have a barbecue, wanting to "hang with (his) homies", wanting to party all night long, and wanting people to see (his) inner child. Why in the world would ''anyone'' go through a life-threatening contest to get things they could do themselves?



* MemeticMutation: From ''VideoGame/TwistedMetalBlack'', there's always Sweet Tooth's PreMortemOneLiner: "Shut up and ''bleed'', you [[CurseCutShort motherfu]]-(ScareChord!)"

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From ''VideoGame/TwistedMetalBlack'', there's always Sweet Tooth's PreMortemOneLiner: "Shut up and ''bleed'', you [[CurseCutShort motherfu]]-(ScareChord!)"



** NarmCharm: Calypso's voice in the 2012 revival. It's [[GutturalGrowler growly as all hell]], which is fine, but it's also...a little bit congested. That said, Calypso is ''hilariously'' blood thirsty, and the voice just captures that school-boy ant-burning glee so perfectly, stuffed-up-nose and all.

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** * NarmCharm: Calypso's voice in the 2012 revival. It's [[GutturalGrowler growly as all hell]], which is fine, but it's also...a little bit congested. That said, Calypso is ''hilariously'' blood thirsty, and the voice just captures that school-boy ant-burning glee so perfectly, stuffed-up-nose and all.



* ReplacementScrappy: Cousin Eddy in ''Head-On'' is often treated as a poor replacement for Minion, with many fans viewing him as an [[UnfortunateImplications offensive hillbilly stereotype]] who is [[DegradedBoss much weaker when you play as him than when you face him as a boss fight]].

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Cousin Eddy in ''Head-On'' is often treated as a poor replacement for Minion, with many fans viewing him as an [[UnfortunateImplications offensive hillbilly stereotype]] who is [[DegradedBoss much weaker when you play as him than when you face him as a boss fight]].



* SpecialEffectsFailure: The "Lost" endings are full of these, particularly whenever a contestant's winnings are raised up by Calypso... which consists of the camera panning ''down'' to them.
** Bonus points for [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKWLq1OQ3tI Needle's Kane's ending]] where upon further inspection, the "doors" are being held by visible hands.

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* SpecialEffectsFailure: The "Lost" endings are full of these, particularly whenever a contestant's winnings are raised up by Calypso... which consists of the camera panning ''down'' to them.
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them. Bonus points for [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKWLq1OQ3tI Needle's Kane's ending]] where upon further inspection, the "doors" are being held by visible hands.



* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: The fact that Needles and Marcus Kane, despite being split personalities (Needles being a violent, psychotic half and Marcus being his sanity and reason), exist as two separate entities, drive two separate vehicles, and constantly battle each other until the Dark Tooth ending from ''Head On'' where [[spoiler: Needles and Marcus meet in the middle of a field curious about seeing the other but ultimately decide to work together, resulting in an unstoppable force of destruction.]]

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The fact that Needles and Marcus Kane, despite being split personalities (Needles being a violent, psychotic half and Marcus being his sanity and reason), exist as two separate entities, drive two separate vehicles, and constantly battle each other until the Dark Tooth ending from ''Head On'' where [[spoiler: Needles and Marcus meet in the middle of a field curious about seeing the other but ultimately decide to work together, resulting in an unstoppable force of destruction.]]
11th Dec '15 2:39:04 PM pittsburghmuggle
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* ScrappyMechanic: The Antarctica level in ''Twisted Metal 2'' is awesome, with large sections of the glacier falling into the sea - however its awesomeness is limited in versus mode by this very mechanic. You don't have very long with the full level - before a few minutes pass, you find that you and your friend are duking it out on the one remaining piece of ice. It would have made more sense to not have the glacier fall apart in multiplayer mode.

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* ScrappyMechanic: The Antarctica level in ''Twisted Metal 2'' is awesome, with large sections of the glacier falling into the sea - however its awesomeness is limited in versus mode by this very mechanic. You don't have very long with the full level - before a few minutes pass, you find that you and your friend are duking it out on the one remaining piece of ice. It would have made more sense to not have the glacier fall apart in multiplayer mode.mode, or to slow the breakup considerably.
11th Dec '15 2:34:01 PM pittsburghmuggle
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* ScrappyMechanic: The Antarctica level is awesome, with large sections of the glacier falling into the sea - however its awesomeness is limited in versus mode by this very mechanic. You don't have very long with the full level - before a few minutes pass, you find that you and your friend are duking it out on the one remaining piece of ice. It would have made more sense to not have the glacier fall apart in multiplayer mode.

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* ScrappyMechanic: The Antarctica level in ''Twisted Metal 2'' is awesome, with large sections of the glacier falling into the sea - however its awesomeness is limited in versus mode by this very mechanic. You don't have very long with the full level - before a few minutes pass, you find that you and your friend are duking it out on the one remaining piece of ice. It would have made more sense to not have the glacier fall apart in multiplayer mode.
11th Dec '15 2:33:39 PM pittsburghmuggle
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* ScrappyMechanic: The Antarctica level is awesome, with large sections of the glacier falling into the sea - however its awesomeness is limited in versus mode by this very mechanic. You don't have very long with the full level - before a few minutes pass, you find that you and your friend are duking it out on the one remaining piece of ice. It would have made more sense to not have the glacier fall apart in multiplayer mode.
28th Aug '15 9:13:27 PM SolsticePrince
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*** Likewise, many fans of the original Dollface have expressed disgust for 2012's Dollface, who retained neither the sympathetic traits the original had nor the redeeming qualities, being a one-dimensional psychopath not unlike Sweet Tooth.
11th Aug '15 12:17:52 AM SolsticePrince
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** Few if any of the characters in ''4'' are liked, but Captain Grimm counts as he was a lame pirate retool of Mister Grimm.

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** Few if any of the characters in ''4'' are liked, but Captain Grimm counts as he was a lame pirate retool of Mister Grimm.Grimm
** Dollface has been criticized by fans for filling in for EnsembleDarkhorse Mr. Ash as the driver for Darkside from Black to 2012.
3rd Jul '15 9:10:28 PM Prfnoff
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** The bigger problem is that in the PS3 game, the Story mode consists of only three characters, and they're all evil mass murderers, with no sympathetic or anti-hero characters to offer up as in the previous games. While they all get what they deserve, always controlling a villain really does sap from the experience. Contrast the coolness of Sweet Tooth in ''Black'', where his goal is to toy with and eventually kill Calypso (something the player can rally behind), to the more disturbing version in the following gen, where his goal is to kill his daughter, the "bitch who got away."

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** The bigger problem is that in the PS3 game, the Story mode consists of only three characters, and they're all evil mass murderers, with no sympathetic or anti-hero characters to offer up as in the previous games. While they all get what they deserve, always controlling a villain really does sap from the experience. Contrast the coolness of Sweet Tooth in ''Black'', ''VideoGame/TwistedMetalBlack'', where his goal is to toy with and eventually kill Calypso (something the player can rally behind), to the more disturbing version in the following gen, where his goal is to kill his daughter, the "bitch who got away."



** [[{{Goth}} Raven]], the driver of Shadow from ''TwistedMetalBlack'' - while a good deal of the new or revisioned characters from ''Black'' were generally approved of by the fandom, Raven gets this taken UpToEleven, often being used in fanworks as Shadow's driver beyond the ''Black'' universe. [[spoiler: This may or may not have been helped by her ''Twisted Metal: Lost'' profile stating how she had become [[AHeroToHisHometown a hero to Midtown]], [[DarkIsNotEvil using her ocultic powers to protect the innocent]], [[PayEvilUntoEvil and to deliver vengeance upon the]] AxCrazy {{SerialKiller}}s terrorizing the streets.]]

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** [[{{Goth}} Raven]], the driver of Shadow from ''TwistedMetalBlack'' ''VideoGame/TwistedMetalBlack'' - while a good deal of the new or revisioned characters from ''Black'' were generally approved of by the fandom, Raven gets this taken UpToEleven, often being used in fanworks as Shadow's driver beyond the ''Black'' universe. [[spoiler: This may or may not have been helped by her ''Twisted Metal: Lost'' profile stating how she had become [[AHeroToHisHometown a hero to Midtown]], [[DarkIsNotEvil using her ocultic powers to protect the innocent]], [[PayEvilUntoEvil and to deliver vengeance upon the]] AxCrazy {{SerialKiller}}s terrorizing the streets.]]



* MemeticMutation: From ''TwistedMetalBlack'', there's always Sweet Tooth's PreMortemOneLiner: "Shut up and ''bleed'', you [[CurseCutShort motherfu]]-(ScareChord!)"

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* MemeticMutation: From ''TwistedMetalBlack'', ''VideoGame/TwistedMetalBlack'', there's always Sweet Tooth's PreMortemOneLiner: "Shut up and ''bleed'', you [[CurseCutShort motherfu]]-(ScareChord!)"



** Both bosses in ''Black''. Minion in particular was a pain, since his shields become very hard to hit when he's down to one or two. Then there's Warhawk, a helicopter that has the unfair advantage of aerial attacks, in addition to the first half of the fight being a PuzzleBoss where you must disable the tanker trucks, which are a DegradedBoss version of Minion, and detonate them underneath him when he flies over the helipad to destroy his shield.
* TrueArtIsAngsty: The best games in the series, ''Twisted Metal Black'', and ''Twisted Metal 2012'' are also the darkest; and fans love them for that, too.

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** Both bosses in ''Black''.''VideoGame/TwistedMetalBlack''. Minion in particular was a pain, since his shields become very hard to hit when he's down to one or two. Then there's Warhawk, a helicopter that has the unfair advantage of aerial attacks, in addition to the first half of the fight being a PuzzleBoss where you must disable the tanker trucks, which are a DegradedBoss version of Minion, and detonate them underneath him when he flies over the helipad to destroy his shield.
* TrueArtIsAngsty: The best games in the series, ''Twisted Metal Black'', ''VideoGame/TwistedMetalBlack'', and ''Twisted Metal 2012'' are also the darkest; and fans love them for that, too.



** [[CameBackWrong Charlie Kane's appearance]] in ''Black'' deliberately invokes this to [[NightmareFuel horrifying]] effect. [[{{Gorn}} Bonus points for still having]] [[BoomHeadshot the hole where the bullet blew his brains out]].

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** [[CameBackWrong Charlie Kane's appearance]] in ''Black'' ''VideoGame/TwistedMetalBlack'' deliberately invokes this to [[NightmareFuel horrifying]] effect. [[{{Gorn}} Bonus points for still having]] [[BoomHeadshot the hole where the bullet blew his brains out]].



** David Jaffe was accused of this by some members of Sony when he was making ''TwistedMetalBlack'', [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9iJGPfvw2A which he hilariously shot down in the "Twisted Metal: The Dark Past" documentary]].

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** David Jaffe was accused of this by some members of Sony when he was making ''TwistedMetalBlack'', ''VideoGame/TwistedMetalBlack'', [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9iJGPfvw2A which he hilariously shot down in the "Twisted Metal: The Dark Past" documentary]].



* TheWoobie: Dollface in ''Black''. "I'm going to be punished forever and ever..."

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* TheWoobie: Dollface in ''Black''.''VideoGame/TwistedMetalBlack''. "I'm going to be punished forever and ever..."
13th Jun '15 1:40:19 PM TwistedGrimm
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** Making the whole Needles/Sweet Tooth confusion even ''worse'' is the reboot, where his followers call him Needles Kane, but everyone else calls him Sweet Tooth. Hell, even ''[[BigBad Calypso]]'' calls him Sweet Tooth.
6th Jun '15 3:51:38 AM Sabrewing
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* UncannyValley: [[CameBackWrong Charlie Kane's appearance]] in ''Black'' deliberately invokes this to [[NightmareFuel horrifying]] effect. [[{{Gorn}} Bonus points for still having]] [[BoomHeadshot the hole where the bullet blew his brains out]].

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* UncannyValley: [[CameBackWrong UncannyValley:
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Charlie Kane's appearance]] in ''Black'' deliberately invokes this to [[NightmareFuel horrifying]] effect. [[{{Gorn}} Bonus points for still having]] [[BoomHeadshot the hole where the bullet blew his brains out]].out]].
** Calypso in ''3'' is a more traditional example.
19th Nov '14 8:20:52 PM MaddKossack115
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** Mr. Ash, the original driver of Darkside, only had a story mode in the original ''Twisted Metal'', but he's still easily one of the fan favorites to this day. [[spoiler: It probably has something to do with being actually {{Satan}}, and also seemingly the source of Calypso's powers in the first place.]]
** [[{{Goth}} Raven]], the driver of Shadow from ''TwistedMetalBlack'' - while a good deal of the new or revisioned characters from ''Black'' were generally approved of by the fandom, Raven gets this taken UpToEleven, often being used in fanworks as Shadow's driver beyond the ''Black'' universe. [[spoiler: This may or may not have been helped by her ''Twisted Metal: Lost'' profile stating how she had become [[AHeroToHisHometown a hero to Midtown]], [[DarkIsNotEvil using her ocultic powers to protect the innocent]], [[PayEvilUntoEvil and to deliver vengeance upon the]] AxCrazy {{SerialKiller}}s terrorizing the streets.]]
* EvilIsCool: Both Sweet Tooth and Calypso. Sure, one's a MonsterClown, and the other's a JackassGenie, but they're so damn ''awesome'' about it.

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** Mr. Ash, the original driver of Darkside, only had a story mode in the original ''Twisted Metal'', but he's still easily one of the fan favorites to this day. [[spoiler: It probably has something to do with being actually {{Satan}}, and also seemingly the source of Calypso's powers in the first place.]]
** Mike and Stu from ''Twisted Metal 2'' (and to a lesser extent, Jeff and Mike from the original ''Twisted Metal''), for being ThoseTwoGuys that provide ComicRelief - oh, and driving [[TheBigGuy a giant-ass monster truck]] [[CarFu that can crush other cars under its wheels alone]].
** [[{{Goth}} Raven]], the driver of Shadow from ''TwistedMetalBlack'' - while a good deal of the new or revisioned characters from ''Black'' were generally approved of by the fandom, Raven gets this taken UpToEleven, often being used in fanworks as Shadow's driver beyond the ''Black'' universe. [[spoiler: This may or may not have been helped by her ''Twisted Metal: Lost'' profile stating how she had become [[AHeroToHisHometown a hero to Midtown]], [[DarkIsNotEvil using her ocultic powers to protect the innocent]], [[PayEvilUntoEvil and to deliver vengeance upon the]] AxCrazy {{SerialKiller}}s terrorizing the streets.]]
** Agent Shepard, the latest driver of Crimson Fury in ''Twisted Metal: Head On'', for being GenreSavvy enough [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim by straight-up arresting Calypso]] instead of trying to make a wish, and also by [[ShutUpHannibal defying Calypso's]] HannibalLecture before giving him TheReasonYouSuckSpeech.
* EvilIsCool: Both Sweet Tooth and Calypso. Sure, one's a MonsterClown, and the other's a JackassGenie, but they're so damn ''awesome'' about it.



** A more straight reaction from the fandom was in regards to [[{{Yandere}} Bloody Mary]], who suffered from being "[[AllOfTheOtherReindeer always a bridesmaid, never a bride]]" supposedly due to being uglier than all the other girls: but there's nothing really "ugly" about her character model, and she indeed looks pretty damn attractive - granted, [[LoveMakesYouCrazy going absolutely crazy for somebody's love would be considered a bit of a turnoff]], [[InLoveWithYourCarnage but even then consider it a turnon instead]].

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** A more straight reaction from the fandom was in regards to [[{{Yandere}} Bloody Mary]], who suffered from being "[[AllOfTheOtherReindeer always a bridesmaid, never a bride]]" supposedly due to being uglier than all the other girls: but there's nothing really "ugly" about her character model, and she indeed looks pretty damn attractive - granted, [[LoveMakesYouCrazy going absolutely crazy for somebody's love would be considered a bit of a turnoff]], [[InLoveWithYourCarnage but even then some consider it a turnon turnON instead]].



** On the other hand, {{Fandom}} often uses "Sweet Tooth" as an InSeriesNickname for how people identify Needles as a SerialKiller.
** A few fan trailers for movies make this mistake, using the character titles to identify the ''cars'' instead of the ''drivers''. Then again, considering just how integral those {{CoolCar}}s are to the series, and how some [[LegacyCharacter sometimes have their drivers shifted out for newcomers]], it's somewhat forgivable.



* UncannyValley: [[CameBackWrong Charlie Kane's appearance]] in ''Black'' deliberately invokes this to [[NightmareFuel horrifying]] effect. [[{{Gorn}} Bonus points for still having]] [[BoomHeadshot the hole where the bullet blew his brains out]].

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* UncannyValley: [[CameBackWrong Charlie Kane's appearance]] in ''Black'' deliberately invokes this to [[NightmareFuel horrifying]] effect. [[{{Gorn}} Bonus points for still having]] [[BoomHeadshot the hole where the bullet blew his brains out]].
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