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* HarsherInHindsight: Lora's death in the backstory of this game has become this in light of her actress's unfortunate death in 2023.

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* WhatAnIdiot
** F-Con, a rival company, is trying to take over Encom to obtain the digitizer tech. Their CEO says in an email how he has been looking forward to this for twenty-plus years\\
'''You'd Expect''': F-Con to wait for the merger to quietly go through, the new bosses to force Alan Bradley into early retirement (with a generous severance package), and quietly appropriate the AI [=Ma3a=] and the Shiva Mark II laser as company property, launching the [=DataWraith=] project beneath everyone's notice.\\
'''Or''' If that was not an option, they would use their mole, Thorne, to copy and steal the files and smuggle them back to F-Con headquarters where they could again, quietly work on it.\\
'''Or''': If Alan ''really'' made a stink about the merger and handing over his life's work, arrange for him to "[[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident disappear]]" from his home or even the Encom parking garage, maybe with some appropriate steps to make it look like he was a despondent, aging man who had [[DrivenToSuicide lost his beloved wife, his close friend, was estranged from his son, and had a career go down in flames]]. \\
''Or'': If they really needed the man himself alive, arrange the kidnapping and staged suicide, but make sure to keep a ''pioneer of AI technology and computer security'' (as in ''the guy who programmed Tron and [=Ma3a=]'') away from any computer equipment, electronics, or even a telephone jack and electrical outlet. \\
'''Instead''': They arrange for a couple of goons to march into Encom in the middle of the workday, brazenly kidnap Mr. Bradley while he is on the phone with his son, threaten his life repeatedly, and [[LockingMacGyverInTheStoreCupboard lock said computing pioneer in a room full of cast off computer parts with a working power outlet and telephone line]].
** Speaking of Thorne, he was F-con's [[TheMole mole]] inside Encom for several months, observing the laser tests and sending the results back to F-Con. He heard Alan repeatedly talk about how the laser wasn't ready to digitize humans and he had ''almost'', but not quite, worked the bugs out just yet on the safety features.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Thorne and F-Con to run some tests of their own to discern if that was truly the case or if Alan was stalling for time. You'd also expect F-Con to test this with something other than a human being right off the bat. \\
'''Instead''': Assuming Alan was just stalling, F-Con bypasses all safeties and shoots Thorne in there. Alan was ''not'' joking about those safeties. Thorne becomes a living computer virus ''they'' can't even control.
** Jet obtains the Tron Legacy code ([[{{Film/TronLegacy}} no relation]]) in the belief it will protect [=Ma3a=] from tampering, but he also finds several emails on the old Encom mainframe indicating that the code wasn't completed and has serious bugs. \\
'''You'd Expect''': Him to point these out to [=Ma3a=] and have second thoughts about installing something to her code that may not be compatible. \\
'''Or''': Wait until he could contact "Guest" and ask about the code.\\
'''Instead''': He and [=Ma3a=] find a compiler living on the Internet, ''he volunteers'' to try compiling it to himself (dude, you're a User, that alone should make it a dodgy idea). [=Ma3a=] steps in and says it's meant to protect her from tampering. As she is being compiled, Jet gets a warning from his dad ''not'' to compile it. As soon as the process completes, [=Ma3a=] goes AxCrazy from the buggy code, kills Byte, wounds Thorne, and tries to kill Jet, who can only get on a lightcycle and flee in terror.\\
'''To Be Fair:''' [=Ma3a=] is being assaulted by Z-Lots and not compiling the code would lead to her death, so there wasn't any time.

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* WhatAnIdiot
** F-Con, a rival company, is trying to take over Encom to obtain the digitizer tech. Their CEO says in an email how he has been looking forward to this for twenty-plus years\\
'''You'd Expect''': F-Con to wait for the merger to quietly go through, the new bosses to force Alan Bradley into early retirement (with a generous severance package), and quietly appropriate the AI [=Ma3a=] and the Shiva Mark II laser as company property, launching the [=DataWraith=] project beneath everyone's notice.\\
'''Or''' If that was not an option, they would use their mole, Thorne, to copy and steal the files and smuggle them back to F-Con headquarters where they could again, quietly work on it.\\
'''Or''': If Alan ''really'' made a stink about the merger and handing over his life's work, arrange for him to "[[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident disappear]]" from his home or even the Encom parking garage, maybe with some appropriate steps to make it look like he was a despondent, aging man who had [[DrivenToSuicide lost his beloved wife, his close friend, was estranged from his son, and had a career go down in flames]]. \\
''Or'': If they really needed the man himself alive, arrange the kidnapping and staged suicide, but make sure to keep a ''pioneer of AI technology and computer security'' (as in ''the guy who programmed Tron and [=Ma3a=]'') away from any computer equipment, electronics, or even a telephone jack and electrical outlet. \\
'''Instead''': They arrange for a couple of goons to march into Encom in the middle of the workday, brazenly kidnap Mr. Bradley while he is on the phone with his son, threaten his life repeatedly, and [[LockingMacGyverInTheStoreCupboard lock said computing pioneer in a room full of cast off computer parts with a working power outlet and telephone line]].
** Speaking of Thorne, he was F-con's [[TheMole mole]] inside Encom for several months, observing the laser tests and sending the results back to F-Con. He heard Alan repeatedly talk about how the laser wasn't ready to digitize humans and he had ''almost'', but not quite, worked the bugs out just yet on the safety features.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Thorne and F-Con to run some tests of their own to discern if that was truly the case or if Alan was stalling for time. You'd also expect F-Con to test this with something other than a human being right off the bat. \\
'''Instead''': Assuming Alan was just stalling, F-Con bypasses all safeties and shoots Thorne in there. Alan was ''not'' joking about those safeties. Thorne becomes a living computer virus ''they'' can't even control.
** Jet obtains the Tron Legacy code ([[{{Film/TronLegacy}} no relation]]) in the belief it will protect [=Ma3a=] from tampering, but he also finds several emails on the old Encom mainframe indicating that the code wasn't completed and has serious bugs. \\
'''You'd Expect''': Him to point these out to [=Ma3a=] and have second thoughts about installing something to her code that may not be compatible. \\
'''Or''': Wait until he could contact "Guest" and ask about the code.\\
'''Instead''': He and [=Ma3a=] find a compiler living on the Internet, ''he volunteers'' to try compiling it to himself (dude, you're a User, that alone should make it a dodgy idea). [=Ma3a=] steps in and says it's meant to protect her from tampering. As she is being compiled, Jet gets a warning from his dad ''not'' to compile it. As soon as the process completes, [=Ma3a=] goes AxCrazy from the buggy code, kills Byte, wounds Thorne, and tries to kill Jet, who can only get on a lightcycle and flee in terror.\\
'''To Be Fair:''' [=Ma3a=] is being assaulted by Z-Lots and not compiling the code would lead to her death, so there wasn't any time.
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** Jet obtains the [[NamesTheSame Tron Legacy]] code ([[{{Film/TronLegacy}} no relation]]) in the belief it will protect [=Ma3a=] from tampering, but he also finds several emails on the old Encom mainframe indicating that the code wasn't completed and has serious bugs. \\

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** Jet obtains the [[NamesTheSame Tron Legacy]] Legacy code ([[{{Film/TronLegacy}} no relation]]) in the belief it will protect [=Ma3a=] from tampering, but he also finds several emails on the old Encom mainframe indicating that the code wasn't completed and has serious bugs. \\
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** The [[LifeDrain Energy Claw]] subroutine, when used, bears a very strong resemblance, both in animation and function, as a [[StarWars Sith-style Force choke]].

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** The [[LifeDrain Energy Claw]] subroutine, when used, bears a very strong resemblance, both in animation and function, as a [[StarWars [[Franchise/StarWars Sith-style Force choke]].
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Monolith's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCKgZBkHago soundtrack]] is a love letter to Wendy Carlos, using a fair amount of techno in orchastral arrangements.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Monolith's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCKgZBkHago soundtrack]] is a love letter to Wendy Carlos, Music/WendyCarlos, using a fair amount of techno in orchastral arrangements.

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* UnfortunateCharacterDesign: A common complaint from players is that Alan's sprite looks very little like Boxleitner (far too short and thin for an actor that is 6' 3" and about 200 lbs), and even looks more haggard and aged than the actor did in ''Film/TronLegacy'' that came out seven years later.

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* UnfortunateCharacterDesign: A common complaint from players is that Alan's sprite looks very little like Boxleitner Creator/BruceBoxleitner (far too short and thin for an actor that is 6' 3" and about 200 lbs), and even looks more haggard and aged than the actor did in ''Film/TronLegacy'' that came out seven years later.



'''To Be Fair:''' [=Ma3a=] is being assaulted by Z-Lots and not compiling the code would lead to her death, so there wasn't any time.

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'''To Be Fair:''' [=Ma3a=] is being assaulted by Z-Lots and not compiling the code would lead to her death, so there wasn't any time.time.

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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: The fact this sequel's ending, [[NoEnding incomplete as it is]] is significantly happier than Film/TronLegacy. Jet ''succeeds'' in rescuing his parents, the digital world is safe, with humans and Programs resuming a peaceful symbiosis. The sequel comic also implies that Jet goes on to take the belief that a User like him [[ComesGreatResponsibility has a responsibility to protect and care for the Programs]].

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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: The fact this sequel's ending, [[NoEnding incomplete as it is]] is significantly happier than Film/TronLegacy.''Film/TronLegacy''. Jet ''succeeds'' in rescuing his parents, the digital world is safe, with humans and Programs resuming a peaceful symbiosis. The sequel comic also implies that Jet goes on to take the belief that a User like him [[ComesGreatResponsibility has a responsibility to protect and care for the Programs]].
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* {{Disneyfication}}: Well, it is a Creator/{{Disney}} universe, and it warrants a Teen rating while most first person shooters are RatedMForMoney. Monolith managed it by making liberal use of the franchise's BloodlessCarnage, the fact that Jet is [[JustAMachine killing Programs]], and even hinting DeathIsCheap [[spoiler:with Mercury's restoration from backup]]. They also avoid having Team Bradley [[spoiler:kill humans by various dodges. Thorne is killed by the Kernel, the Wraiths are kicked out to analog when defeated, and the TerribleTrio end up imprisoned on a hard disk]]. It's only when you [[FridgeHorror think about it a bit]] that anything actually becomes disturbing. Oddly enough, this makes this game not only LighterAndSofter as far as FPS games, it's also LighterAndSofter then ''Film/TronLegacy'' and even ''WesternAnimation/TronUprising'' by a large degree.
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** The Internet hub level looks a lot like a night version of the Internet city from ''Disney/RalphBreaksTheInternet'', complete with spam dealers, crazy pop-ups, and a virus attack. ''Disney/RalphBreaksTheInternet'' also had a joke about the ''Tron'' video game having a virus issue.

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** The Internet hub level looks a lot like a night version of the Internet city from ''Disney/RalphBreaksTheInternet'', ''WesternAnimation/RalphBreaksTheInternet'', complete with spam dealers, crazy pop-ups, and a virus attack. ''Disney/RalphBreaksTheInternet'' ''WesternAnimation/RalphBreaksTheInternet'' also had a joke about the ''Tron'' video game having a virus issue.
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--->In the Real World, [[spoiler:Thorne]] – Like many people – uses a PDA to help manage personal affairs. Stored on his PDA is the wireless dial-up number that can access [[spoiler:the [=FCon=] database, by directly bypassing the high security firewall]].

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--->In the Real World, [[spoiler:Thorne]] Thorne – Like many people – uses a PDA to help manage personal affairs. Stored on his PDA is the wireless dial-up number that can access [[spoiler:the [=FCon=] database, by directly bypassing the high security firewall]].
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** In today's world of smartphones and broadband internet, this line from a help file stands out:
--->In the Real World, [[spoiler:Thorne]] – Like many people – uses a PDA to help manage personal affairs. Stored on his PDA is the wireless dial-up number that can access [[spoiler:the [=FCon=] database, by directly bypassing the high security firewall]].
** Also note that the sound effect of a phone dialing can be heard in the soundtrack when you're on the Internet.

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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: The fact this sequel's ending, [[NoEnding incomplete as it is]] is significantly happier than Film/TronLegacy. Jet ''succeeds'' in rescuing his parents, the digital world is safe, with humans and Programs resuming a peaceful symbiosis. The sequel comic also implies that Jet goes on to take the belief that a User like him [[ComesGreatResponsibility has a responsibility to protect and care for the Programs]].



** The computer in Thorne's PDA sounds and acts a little like [[VideoGame/{{Portal}} GLaDOS]], especially at the end when [[VideoGame/Portal2 she just wants Jet]] ''[[VideoGame/Portal 2 gone]]''.

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** The computer in Thorne's PDA sounds and acts a little like [[VideoGame/{{Portal}} GLaDOS]], especially at the end when [[VideoGame/Portal2 [[VideoGame/{{Portal}} she just wants Jet]] ''[[VideoGame/Portal 2 ''[[VideoGame/{{Portal2}} gone]]''.
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** The computer in Thorne's PDA sounds and acts a little like [[{{VideoGame/Portal}} GLaDOS]], especially at the end when [[VideoGame/{{Portal 2}} she just wants Jet]] ''[[VideoGame/{{Portal 2}} gone]]''.

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** The computer in Thorne's PDA sounds and acts a little like [[{{VideoGame/Portal}} [[VideoGame/{{Portal}} GLaDOS]], especially at the end when [[VideoGame/{{Portal 2}} [[VideoGame/Portal2 she just wants Jet]] ''[[VideoGame/{{Portal 2}} ''[[VideoGame/Portal 2 gone]]''.



** The F-con CEO, heavily implied to be Ed Dillinger, is never seen. He speaks to his employees only via cameras, PA systems, and email. Now, remember that scene from {{Film/TronLegacy}}'s "The Next Day" [[spoiler:Where Ed Dillinger Junior is speaking to his "father" (implied to be Master Control 2.0) using the same methods]].

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** The F-con CEO, heavily implied to be Ed Dillinger, is never seen. He speaks to his employees only via cameras, PA systems, and email. Now, remember that scene from {{Film/TronLegacy}}'s Film/TronLegacy's "The Next Day" [[spoiler:Where Ed Dillinger Junior is speaking to his "father" (implied to be Master Control 2.0) using the same methods]].
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* DisneyFication: Well, it is a Creator/{{Disney}} universe, and it warrants a Teen rating while most first person shooters are RatedMForMoney. Monolith managed it by making liberal use of the franchise's BloodlessCarnage, the fact that Jet is [[JustAMachine killing Programs]], and even hinting DeathIsCheap [[spoiler: with Mercury's restoration from backup]]. They also avoid having Team Bradley [[spoiler: kill humans by various dodges. Thorne is killed by the Kernel, the Wraiths are kicked out to analog when defeated, and the TerribleTrio end up imprisoned on a hard disk]]. It's only when you [[FridgeHorror think about it a bit]] that anything actually becomes disturbing. Oddly enough, this makes this game not only LighterAndSofter as far as FPS games, it's also LighterAndSofter then ''Film/TronLegacy'' and even ''WesternAnimation/TronUprising'' by a large degree.

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* DisneyFication: {{Disneyfication}}: Well, it is a Creator/{{Disney}} universe, and it warrants a Teen rating while most first person shooters are RatedMForMoney. Monolith managed it by making liberal use of the franchise's BloodlessCarnage, the fact that Jet is [[JustAMachine killing Programs]], and even hinting DeathIsCheap [[spoiler: with [[spoiler:with Mercury's restoration from backup]]. They also avoid having Team Bradley [[spoiler: kill [[spoiler:kill humans by various dodges. Thorne is killed by the Kernel, the Wraiths are kicked out to analog when defeated, and the TerribleTrio end up imprisoned on a hard disk]]. It's only when you [[FridgeHorror think about it a bit]] that anything actually becomes disturbing. Oddly enough, this makes this game not only LighterAndSofter as far as FPS games, it's also LighterAndSofter then ''Film/TronLegacy'' and even ''WesternAnimation/TronUprising'' by a large degree.



** The F-con CEO, heavily implied to be Ed Dillinger, is never seen. He speaks to his employees only via cameras, PA systems, and email. Now, remember that scene from {{Film/TronLegacy}}'s "The Next Day" [[spoiler: Where Ed Dillinger Junior is speaking to his "father" (implied to be Master Control 2.0) using the same methods]].

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** The F-con CEO, heavily implied to be Ed Dillinger, is never seen. He speaks to his employees only via cameras, PA systems, and email. Now, remember that scene from {{Film/TronLegacy}}'s "The Next Day" [[spoiler: Where [[spoiler:Where Ed Dillinger Junior is speaking to his "father" (implied to be Master Control 2.0) using the same methods]].



** The second comes when Jet and Mercury split up to cover more ground. The reformat is closing in, there's not much time. Jet, Byte, and [=Ma3a=] are on the platform leading to the exit port with nanos to spare...and [[spoiler: Mercury sacrifices herself to fend off the Z-Lots so they don't overrun the party.]]
** The next one comes on the antiquated Encom server where you realize, to your horror, that getting [=Ma3a=] to a few minutes of safety [[NiceJobBreakingItHero condemed the entire server]] [[spoiler: including I-No]] to death, and there's nothing you can do to stop it.

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** The second comes when Jet and Mercury split up to cover more ground. The reformat is closing in, there's not much time. Jet, Byte, and [=Ma3a=] are on the platform leading to the exit port with nanos to spare...and [[spoiler: Mercury [[spoiler:Mercury sacrifices herself to fend off the Z-Lots so they don't overrun the party.]]
** The next one comes on the antiquated Encom server where you realize, to your horror, that getting [=Ma3a=] to a few minutes of safety [[NiceJobBreakingItHero condemed the entire server]] [[spoiler: including [[spoiler:including I-No]] to death, and there's nothing you can do to stop it.



** Follow it up on the Internet Hub. [[spoiler: Mercury's alive?!]] But she doesn't recogize Jet at all, speaks robotically, and can't understand anything other than her User's orders. Two Programs who overhear this comment that she must have been re-installed from backup.[[note]]However, Alan apparently saved Mercury 2.8.1, and she reappears near the conclusion.[[/note]]
** It looks like everything's going to be okay. The Tron upgrade is being compiled to [=Ma3a=], the Z-Lots have been chased off for now, and it looks like Jet's earned a breather. But then [[spoiler: Alan warns Jet ''too late'' not to compile that code, and Thorne crashes the party with an army of Z-Lots]].
** OK, Jet's putting up a good fight. He might just be able to chase [[spoiler: Thorne]] off. But that's when the code finishes compiling and [[spoiler: the corrupted [=Ma3a=] emerges ''"All Users must be terminated!"'' She attacks and wounds Thorne, ''murders'' Byte by casually backhanding him into the wall where he shatters, and only [[FightingFromTheInside fights the corruption long enough]] to tell Jet to ''run'']]

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** Follow it up on the Internet Hub. [[spoiler: Mercury's [[spoiler:Mercury's alive?!]] But she doesn't recogize Jet at all, speaks robotically, and can't understand anything other than her User's orders. Two Programs who overhear this comment that she must have been re-installed from backup.[[note]]However, Alan apparently saved Mercury 2.8.1, and she reappears near the conclusion.[[/note]]
** It looks like everything's going to be okay. The Tron upgrade is being compiled to [=Ma3a=], the Z-Lots have been chased off for now, and it looks like Jet's earned a breather. But then [[spoiler: Alan [[spoiler:Alan warns Jet ''too late'' not to compile that code, and Thorne crashes the party with an army of Z-Lots]].
** OK, Jet's putting up a good fight. He might just be able to chase [[spoiler: Thorne]] [[spoiler:Thorne]] off. But that's when the code finishes compiling and [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the corrupted [=Ma3a=] emerges ''"All Users must be terminated!"'' She attacks and wounds Thorne, ''murders'' Byte by casually backhanding him into the wall where he shatters, and only [[FightingFromTheInside fights the corruption long enough]] to tell Jet to ''run'']]

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