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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: "Sally Simpson," where a girl is injured during a riot at a concert. A real 1979 Who concert had several people killed outside the venue when people rushed to get in.

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: "Sally Simpson," where a girl is injured during a riot at a concert.speech by Tommy. A real 1979 Who concert had several people killed outside the venue when people rushed to get in.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: "Sally Simpson," where a girl is injured during a riot at a concert. A real 1979 Who concert had several people killed outside the venue when people rushed to get in.
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** "Fiddle About" has Tommy's [[CreepyUncle Uncle]] {{E|vilUncle}}rnie [[{{Shotacon}} molesting]] him. Arguably, it's turned into a very dark CrowningMomentOfFunny by [[CrazyAwesome Keith Moon]], the band's drummer, in TheMovie.

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** "Fiddle About" has Tommy's [[CreepyUncle Uncle]] {{E|vilUncle}}rnie [[{{Shotacon}} molesting]] him. Arguably, it's turned into a very dark CrowningMomentOfFunny SugarWiki/{{Funny Moment|s}} by [[CrazyAwesome Keith Moon]], the band's drummer, in TheMovie.
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** In the movie the [[OnlySaneMan Doctor]] was [[Literature/OneFlewOverTheCuckoosNest played by]] [[TheShining Jack]] [[SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker Nicholson]].

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** In the movie the [[OnlySaneMan Doctor]] was [[Literature/OneFlewOverTheCuckoosNest played by]] [[TheShining [[Film/TheShining Jack]] [[SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker Nicholson]].
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Uncle Ernie, if you can believe it, has a whole host of fans.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: EnsembleDarkHorse: Uncle Ernie, if you can believe it, has a whole host of fans.



** In the movie the [[OnlySaneMan Doctor]] was [[Literature/OneFlewOverTheCuckoosNest played by]] [[TheShining Jack]] [[TheJoker Nicholson]].

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** In the movie the [[OnlySaneMan Doctor]] was [[Literature/OneFlewOverTheCuckoosNest played by]] [[TheShining Jack]] [[TheJoker [[SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker Nicholson]].
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* OneSceneWonder: Music/EltonJohn's appearance as the Champion/Local Lad in TheMovie is one of the most talked-about parts of the film (he even got third billing after Daltrey and Ann-Margret), and he barely even gets five minutes of screen-time. It probably didn't help that it was released in the UK the day after his twenty-ninth birthday.
** [[TeensAreMonsters Cousin Kevin]], [[DisneyAcidSequence the Acid Queen]], [[OnlySaneMan the doctor]].
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: For some reason, a good percentage of the Tommy {{Fandom}} (or perhaps FanDumb) seems to treat the Local Lad (''especially'' the Music/EltonJohn version) like he's a SissyVillain simply for being Tommy's rival when it came to being a champion at {{Pinball}}. As an unfortunate result, he usually ends up being treated like either TheScrappy or an AssholeVictim.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: For some reason, a good percentage of the Tommy {{Fandom}} (or perhaps FanDumb) seems to treat the Local Lad (''especially'' the Music/EltonJohn version) like he's a SissyVillain simply for being Tommy's rival when it came to being a champion at {{Pinball}}. As an unfortunate result, he usually occasionally ends up being treated like either TheScrappy or an AssholeVictim.
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* {{Squick}}[=/=]NightmareFuel: Every one of the three {{Villain Song}}s. What the Acid Queen does to Tommy and what Kevin do to him are one after the other on the album (though separated by a ten-minute long psychedelic instrumental), making things worse.

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* {{Squick}}[=/=]NightmareFuel: Every one of the three {{Villain Song}}s. What Kevin, the Acid Queen does and Uncle Ernie do to Tommy and what Kevin do to him are one after the other on the album (though "The Acid Queen" and "Fiddle About" are separated by a ten-minute long psychedelic instrumental), making things worse.
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** "Fiddle About" has Tommy's [[CreepyUncle Uncle]] {{E|vilUncle}}rnie [[{{Shotacon}} molesting]] him. [[YMMV Arguably]] turned into a very dark CrowningMomentOfFunny by Keith Moon, the band's drummer, in TheMovie.

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** "Fiddle About" has Tommy's [[CreepyUncle Uncle]] {{E|vilUncle}}rnie [[{{Shotacon}} molesting]] him. [[YMMV Arguably]] Arguably, it's turned into a very dark CrowningMomentOfFunny by [[CrazyAwesome Keith Moon, Moon]], the band's drummer, in TheMovie.

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** Just about the entire soundtrack, really.



** Tommy [[FauxSymbolism baptizing]] his mother after singing "I'm Free" in the movie.



** "Fiddle About" has Tommy's [[CreepyUncle Uncle]] {{E|vilUncle}}rnie [[{{Shotacon}} molesting]] him. What's considerably worse is that a significant part of the fandom thinks that it's okay only because Ernie's played by the drummer, Keith Moon, in TheMovie. [[SarcasmMode Yeah, that certainly makes sense.]]

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** "Fiddle About" has Tommy's [[CreepyUncle Uncle]] {{E|vilUncle}}rnie [[{{Shotacon}} molesting]] him. What's considerably worse is that [[YMMV Arguably]] turned into a significant part of the fandom thinks that it's okay only because Ernie's played very dark CrowningMomentOfFunny by the drummer, Keith Moon, the band's drummer, in TheMovie. [[SarcasmMode Yeah, that certainly makes sense.]]TheMovie.


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** Tommy's parents being killed by the angry mob at the end of TheMovie.
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** In the film, we have Frank, Tommy's [[WickedStepmother stepfather]].
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* AccidentalNightmareFuel: There's quite a bit of it, namely in the Acid Queen sequence.

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* FauxSymbolism: In the film, it's quite apparent that director Ken Russell has never met a piece of symbolism he couldn't beat his viewers over the head with.



* {{Squick}}[=/=]HighOctaneNightmareFuel: Every one of the three {{Villain Song}}s. What the Acid Queen does to Tommy and what Kevin do to him are one after the other on the album (though separated by a ten-minute long psychedelic instrumental), making things worse.

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* {{Squick}}[=/=]HighOctaneNightmareFuel: {{Squick}}[=/=]NightmareFuel: Every one of the three {{Villain Song}}s. What the Acid Queen does to Tommy and what Kevin do to him are one after the other on the album (though separated by a ten-minute long psychedelic instrumental), making things worse.

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* BreakawayPopHit: "Pinball Wizard" served as this for both the original album and the 1975 film.



** "Fiddle About" has Tommy's [[CreepyUncle Uncle]] [[EvilUncle Ernie]] [[{{Shotacon}} molesting]] him. What's considerably worse is that a significant part of the fandom thinks that it's okay only because Ernie's played by the drummer, Keith Moon, in TheMovie. [[SarcasmMode Yeah, that certainly makes sense.]]

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** "Fiddle About" has Tommy's [[CreepyUncle Uncle]] [[EvilUncle Ernie]] {{E|vilUncle}}rnie [[{{Shotacon}} molesting]] him. What's considerably worse is that a significant part of the fandom thinks that it's okay only because Ernie's played by the drummer, Keith Moon, in TheMovie. [[SarcasmMode Yeah, that certainly makes sense.]]
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* IAmNotShazam: A common mistake even among the fans is to call the character who sings "Pinball Wizard", well, the Pinball Wizard (or, [[IAmNotLeonardNimoy in the movie's case]], Music/EltonJohn). He's actually called the Local Lad, according to the scripts.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Uncle Ernie, if you can believe it, has a whole host of fans.
** Same with Cousin Kevin, though not as much as Ernie.
** Both the Acid Queen and the Local Lad have plenty of fans, too, despite the latter's hatedom calling him TheScrappy.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: For some reason, a good percentage of the Tommy {{Fandom}} (or perhaps FanDumb) seems to treat the Local Lad (namely the Music/EltonJohn version) like he's a SissyVillain simply for being Tommy's rival when it came to being a champion at {{Pinball}}. Usually, as an unfortunate result, the poor guy ends up being treated like either TheScrappy or an AssholeVictim.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: For some reason, a good percentage of the Tommy {{Fandom}} (or perhaps FanDumb) seems to treat the Local Lad (namely (''especially'' the Music/EltonJohn version) like he's a SissyVillain simply for being Tommy's rival when it came to being a champion at {{Pinball}}. Usually, as As an unfortunate result, the poor guy he usually ends up being treated like either TheScrappy or an AssholeVictim.


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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: For some reason, a good percentage of the Tommy {{Fandom}} (or perhaps FanDumb) seems to treat the Local Lad (namely the EltonJohn version) like he's a SissyVillain simply for being Tommy's rival when it came to being a champion at {{Pinball}}. Usually, as an unfortunate result, the poor guy ends up being treated like either TheScrappy or an AssholeVictim.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: For some reason, a good percentage of the Tommy {{Fandom}} (or perhaps FanDumb) seems to treat the Local Lad (namely the EltonJohn Music/EltonJohn version) like he's a SissyVillain simply for being Tommy's rival when it came to being a champion at {{Pinball}}. Usually, as an unfortunate result, the poor guy ends up being treated like either TheScrappy or an AssholeVictim.



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** In the movie the [[OnlySaneMan Doctor]] was [[OneFlewOverTheCuckoosNest played by]] [[TheShining Jack]] [[TheJoker Nicholson]].
** Another movie example: When Rod Stewart asked EltonJohn if he should take the part of the Local Lad, Elton told him "don't touch it with a barge pole."

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** In the movie the [[OnlySaneMan Doctor]] was [[OneFlewOverTheCuckoosNest [[Literature/OneFlewOverTheCuckoosNest played by]] [[TheShining Jack]] [[TheJoker Nicholson]].
** Another movie example: When Rod Stewart asked EltonJohn Music/EltonJohn if he should take the part of the Local Lad, Elton told him "don't touch it with a barge pole."



* TheWoobie: Tommy might be the most epic example of this trope in music.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Could very well be part of why a lot of people in Music/TheWho FanDumb loathe the Music/EltonJohn version of "Pinball Wizard" with an immense passion. (That, and/or perhaps because at one point [[ItsPopularNowItSucks his version got almost as popular as the original]].) [[FridgeLogic Even though it was]] '''''[[TheWho Pete Townshend]]''''' [[FridgeLogic who made most of the real changes]].

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* TheWoobie: Tommy might be the most epic example of this trope in music.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Could very well be part of why a lot of people in Music/TheWho FanDumb loathe the Music/EltonJohn version of "Pinball Wizard" with an immense passion. (That, and/or perhaps because at one point [[ItsPopularNowItSucks his version got almost as popular as the original]].) [[FridgeLogic Even though it was]] '''''[[TheWho '''''[[Music/TheWho Pete Townshend]]''''' [[FridgeLogic who made most of the real changes]].



* WhatTheHellCastingAgency: For TheMovie, you have Roger Daltrey, Ann-Margret, Music/EltonJohn, Tina Turner, EricClapton, Keith Moon, [[CreatorCameo John Entwistle, Pete Townshend]]...[[TheLastOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers and]] JackNicholson. [[TropesAreNotBad He does a pretty good job, for not being a singer.]]

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* WhatTheHellCastingAgency: WTHCastingAgency: For TheMovie, you have Roger Daltrey, Ann-Margret, Music/EltonJohn, Tina Turner, EricClapton, Music/EricClapton, Keith Moon, [[CreatorCameo John Entwistle, Pete Townshend]]...[[TheLastOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers and]] JackNicholson. [[TropesAreNotBad He does a pretty good job, for not being a singer.]]]]
* TheWoobie: Tommy might be the most epic example of this trope in music.
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** [[FridgeLogic Though if that's one of the reasons they hate it, then why don't they complain about most of the rest of the movie's changes?]]

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** [[FridgeLogic Though if that's one of the reasons they hate it, then why don't they complain about most of the rest of the movie's changes?]]changes?]]
* WhatTheHellCastingAgency: For TheMovie, you have Roger Daltrey, Ann-Margret, Music/EltonJohn, Tina Turner, EricClapton, Keith Moon, [[CreatorCameo John Entwistle, Pete Townshend]]...[[TheLastOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers and]] JackNicholson. [[TropesAreNotBad He does a pretty good job, for not being a singer.]]

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: For some reason, a good percentage of the Tommy {{Fandom}} (or perhaps FanDumb) seems to treat the Local Lad (namely the EltonJohn version) character like he's a SissyVillain. Usually, as an unfortunate result, the poor guy ends up being treated like either the AssholeVictim, the ButtMonkey or TheScrappy.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: For some reason, a good percentage of the Tommy {{Fandom}} (or perhaps FanDumb) seems to treat the Local Lad (namely the EltonJohn version) character like he's a SissyVillain. SissyVillain simply for being Tommy's rival when it came to being a champion at {{Pinball}}. Usually, as an unfortunate result, the poor guy ends up being treated like either the AssholeVictim, the ButtMonkey TheScrappy or TheScrappy.an AssholeVictim.



* {{Squick}}[=/=]HighOctaneNightmareFuel: Every one of the three {{Villain Song}}s below. What the Acid Queen does to Tommy and what Kevin do to him are one after the other on the album (though separated by a ten-minute long psychedelic instrumental), making things worse.
** "Fiddle About" has Tommy's [[CreepyUncle Uncle]] [[EvilUncle Ernie]] molesting him. What's considerably worse is that a significant part of the fandom thinks that it's okay only because Ernie's played by the drummer, Keith Moon, in TheMovie. [[SarcasmMode Yeah, that certainly makes sense.]]
*** Oddly enough, the same people who use that reasoning are often the ones that also think that the Local Lad is a SissyVillain (see AlternativeCharacterInterpretation above).

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** "Fiddle About" has Tommy's [[CreepyUncle Uncle]] [[EvilUncle Ernie]] molesting [[{{Shotacon}} molesting]] him. What's considerably worse is that a significant part of the fandom thinks that it's okay only because Ernie's played by the drummer, Keith Moon, in TheMovie. [[SarcasmMode Yeah, that certainly makes sense.]]
*** Oddly enough, the same people who use that reasoning are often the ones that also think that the Local Lad is a SissyVillain (see AlternativeCharacterInterpretation above).
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* TheWoobie: Tommy might be the most epic example of this trope in music.

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* TheWoobie: Tommy might be the most epic example of this trope in music.music.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Could very well be part of why a lot of people in Music/TheWho FanDumb loathe the Music/EltonJohn version of "Pinball Wizard" with an immense passion. (That, and/or perhaps because at one point [[ItsPopularNowItSucks his version got almost as popular as the original]].) [[FridgeLogic Even though it was]] '''''[[TheWho Pete Townshend]]''''' [[FridgeLogic who made most of the real changes]].
** [[FridgeLogic Though if that's one of the reasons they hate it, then why don't they complain about most of the rest of the movie's changes?]]
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: For some reason, a good percentage of the Tommy {{Fandom}} (or perhaps FanDumb) seems to treat the Local Lad (namely the EltonJohn version) character like he's a SissyVillain. Usually, as an unfortunate result, the poor guy ends up being treated like either the AssholeVictim, the ButtMonkey or TheScrappy.



** "Fiddle About" has Tommy's [[CreepyUncle Uncle Ernie]] molesting him. What's considerably worse is that a significant part of the fandom thinks that it's okay [[InsaneTrollLogic because Ernie's played by the drummer, Keith Moon]], in TheMovie.

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** "Fiddle About" has Tommy's [[CreepyUncle Uncle Uncle]] [[EvilUncle Ernie]] molesting him. What's considerably worse is that a significant part of the fandom thinks that it's okay [[InsaneTrollLogic only because Ernie's played by the drummer, Keith Moon]], Moon, in TheMovie.TheMovie. [[SarcasmMode Yeah, that certainly makes sense.]]
*** Oddly enough, the same people who use that reasoning are often the ones that also think that the Local Lad is a SissyVillain (see AlternativeCharacterInterpretation above).

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: "I'm Free" for one, which feels a lot harder than it sounds.



* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: During the band's performance at {{Woodstock}}, the climactic moment of ''See Me, Feel Me'' happened to coincide precisely with [[CueTheSun the morning sun breaching the horizon]]. The group had a lighting rig (then a rarity) constructed to replicate this effect for later performances.
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Is there anyone who ''doesn't'' get choked up listening to "Listening To You"?
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: "I'm Free" for one, which feels a lot harder than it sounds.


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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: Is there anyone who ''doesn't'' get choked up listening to "Listening To You"?


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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: During the band's performance at {{Woodstock}}, the climactic moment of ''See Me, Feel Me'' happened to coincide precisely with [[CueTheSun the morning sun breaching the horizon]]. The group had a lighting rig (then a rarity) constructed to replicate this effect for later performances.
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** Another movie example: When Rod Stewart asked EltonJohn if he should take the part of the Local Lad, Elton told him "don't touch it with a barge pole."



* TheWoobie: Tommy might be the most epic example of this trope in music.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: In TheMovie, Roger Daltrey was to use actual sign language for the gesture-song scene.

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* AccidentalNightmareFuel: There's quite a bit of it, namely in the Acid Queen sequence.



* CompleteMonster: Uncle Ernie, Cousin Kevin.

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* CompleteMonster: Uncle Ernie, Ernie and Cousin Kevin.



* NightmareFuel: A lot of it in the movie (somehow only a [[MediaClassifications PG-13]]), especially the "Eyesight to the Blind" and "Acid Queen" sequences.



** "Fiddle About" has Tommy's [[CreepyUncle Uncle Ernie]] molesting him. What's considerably worse is that a significant part of the fandom thinks that it's okay [[InsaneTrollLogic because Ernie's played by the drummer, Keith Moon]], in TheMovie.



* TheWoobie: Tommy might be the most epic example of this trope in music.

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* TheWoobie: Tommy might be the most epic example of this trope in music.music.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: In TheMovie, Roger Daltrey was to use actual sign language for the gesture-song scene.
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* CompleteMonster: Cousin Kevin. Uncle Ernie isn't [[strike:much]] any better.

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* CompleteMonster: Uncle Ernie, Cousin Kevin. Uncle Ernie isn't [[strike:much]] any better.Kevin.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: "I'm Free" for one, which feels a lot harder than it sounds.
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Is there anyone who ''doesn't'' get choked up listening to "Listening To You"?

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* {{Squick}}[=/=]HighOctaneNightmareFuel: Every one of the three {{Villain Song}}s below. What the Acid Queen does to Tommy and what Kevin do to him are one after the other on the album, making things worse.

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* {{Squick}}[=/=]HighOctaneNightmareFuel: Every one of the three {{Villain Song}}s below. What the Acid Queen does to Tommy and what Kevin do to him are one after the other on the album, album (though separated by a ten-minute long psychedelic instrumental), making things worse.
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* AccidentalInnuendo: The songs "See Me, Feel Me" and "Sensation".

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