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* {{Squick}}: Violet's gum-chewing. Yes, that is part of her character (that Roald Dahl thought it was gross), but she's also shown ''playing'' with her gum and it's still shown when she talks.

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** Also the fact that they show Veruca's underwear when she slides down the chute.
** That makes no sense either as she is wearing tights.
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* SnarkBait: This movie's premise pretty much made this trope unavoidable by default. Some of the previous Tom and Jerry movies have gotten this to an extent but this one seems to be the one that took the cake.
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* TaintedByThePreview: The reveal of the trailer sparked some change in anticipation of this movie despite it having been known about on the internet for over a year before that with far less hostile responses. A possible reason for this is that the trailer was what first revealed it to be a near ShotForShotRemake of the '71 ''Willy Wonka'' movie. So while there were some who had previously been on the fence before, this may have been when they became alienated, especially as that movie is in itself a divide for fans of the book. Or those that were hoping for similar treatment as Tom and Jerry: Back To Oz.

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* TaintedByThePreview: The reveal of the trailer sparked some change in anticipation of this movie despite it having been known about on the internet for over a year before that with far less hostile responses. A possible reason for this is that the trailer was what first revealed it to be a near ShotForShotRemake of the '71 ''Willy Wonka'' movie. So while there were some who had previously been on the fence before, this may have been when they became alienated, especially as that movie is in itself a divide for fans of the book. Or those that were hoping for similar treatment as Tom and Jerry: Back To Oz.''WesternAnimation/TomAndJerryBackToOz''.



** Also in relation to the previous movie, ''Back To Oz'' had done some [[AuthorsSavingThrow damage control]] by actually mixing in other elements from the Oz books into the MGM film-inspired world. This, coupled with the original title having Charlie's name instead of Wonka's, led to some fans thinking this movie would have mixed more elements from other things than the '71 film. While there are a few, the film mostly plays it straight to the '71 version that already has its own BrokenBase in the fandom of the original book. Needless to say, this came off as a disappointment to some and others thought it was just plain lazy on the creators' part.

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** Also in relation to the previous movie, ''Back ''[[WesternAnimation/TomAndJerryBackToOz Back To Oz'' Oz]]'' had done some [[AuthorsSavingThrow damage control]] by actually mixing in other elements from the Oz books into the MGM film-inspired world. This, coupled with the original title having Charlie's name instead of Wonka's, led to some fans thinking this movie would have mixed more elements from other things than the '71 film. While there are a few, the film mostly plays it straight to the '71 version that already has its own BrokenBase in the fandom of the original book. Needless to say, this came off as a disappointment to some and others thought it was just plain lazy on the creators' part.
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** Veruca's underwear being shown when falling down the chute.
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** Also the fact that they show Veruca's underwear when she slides down the chute.
** That makes no sense either as she is wearing tights.

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* IdiotPlot: Wonka kicks off the plot by ''not'' telling Tuffy that [[spoiler:Slugworth worked for him.]] Tuffy's reaction implies that this wasn't a SecretTestOfCharacter at all either like with everybody else.

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Wonka kicks off the plot by ''not'' telling Tuffy that [[spoiler:Slugworth worked for him.]] Tuffy's reaction implies that this wasn't a SecretTestOfCharacter at all either like with everybody else.



* MemeticMolester: Willy Wonka already had this reputation thanks to the previous films, moreso with the 2005 adaptation. If anything, this movie cements Wonka's reputation as this trope further thanks to the unnerving, devious smiles he makes at the end of the movie.

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* MemeticMolester: Willy Wonka already had this reputation thanks to the previous films, moreso with the 2005 adaptation. If anything, this movie cements Wonka's reputation as this trope further thanks to the [[OffModel unnerving, devious devious]] smiles he makes at the end of the movie.



* NightmareFuel: The inconsistent animation and constant reaction shots can genuinely be unnerving thanks to severe UncannyValley as mentioned below, and especially [[http://i.imgur.com/PgK9IvQ.png Wonka's at the very end.]]

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* BrokenBase: First this is the latest in the series of Tom and Jerry movies that has been operating with a sharp divide for years. Some detractors are prone to wondering how the series continues to exist and consider its continued existence an unwelcome presence. On the other hand, many of the fans who regularly support it are generally happy and feel most of the hate is confined to a periphery InternetBackdraft.[[note]]Very similar thoughts are echoed on its sibling entity the ''WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooDirectToVideoFilmSeries'' as both show how sharp divides still exist over HB properties to this day.[[/note]] Now it is crossing over with a franchise that has its own BrokenBase stirred on by the fact the original writer Creator/RoaldDahl fueled the fire whether the first movie lived up to the book or was a disgrace to it.[[note]]You can read more about their fights on their own pages from before this movie existed[[/note]] These volatile issues on their own when combined made this trope's fires rage, and really it had zero chance of it not happening from the start.

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* BrokenBase: First this is the latest in the series of Tom and Jerry movies that has been operating with a sharp divide for years. Some detractors are prone to wondering how the series continues to exist and consider its continued existence an unwelcome presence. On the other hand, many of the fans who regularly support it are generally happy and feel most of the hate is confined to a periphery InternetBackdraft.VocalMinority.[[note]]Very similar thoughts are echoed on its sibling entity the ''WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooDirectToVideoFilmSeries'' as both show how sharp divides still exist over HB properties to this day.[[/note]] Now it is crossing over with a franchise that has its own BrokenBase stirred on by the fact the original writer Creator/RoaldDahl fueled the fire whether the first movie lived up to the book or was a disgrace to it.[[note]]You can read more about their fights on their own pages from before this movie existed[[/note]] These volatile issues on their own when combined made this trope's fires rage, and really it had zero chance of it not happening from the start.
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* CatharsisFactor: Anyone who did not like that Veruca Salt from the orignal movie has her father stand up and yank her by the ear out the door with implications that he plans to punish her for her attitude.
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* ViewerGenderConfusion: Tuffy's voice is unisex and childish. It sounds somewhere between Creator/KathSoucie 's roles as Phil and Lil from ''WesternAnimation/{{Rugrats}}''.

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* ViewerGenderConfusion: Tuffy's voice is unisex and childish. It sounds somewhere between Phil and Lil from ''WesternAnimation/{{Rugrats}}''.

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* ViewerGenderConfusion: Tuffy's voice is unisex and childish. It sounds somewhere between Creator/KathSoucie 's roles as Phil and Lil from ''WesternAnimation/{{Rugrats}}''.
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* AssPull: The movie saw fit to still keep the reveal that [[spoiler:Mr. Slugworth was GoodAllAlong]] as in the original 1971 movie. However, what was a perfectly fine twist reveal in the original movie [[AdaptationInducedPlotHole turns into a completely nonsensical one in this one]] given that here, [[spoiler:Mr. Slugworth]] acts like a cackling madman (instead of the stoic and shady fellow he originally was) up until TheReveal, acts incredibly hostile toward Tom, Jerry, and Tuffy when [[spoiler:he could have simply quietly explained to them what was happening and send them off on their merry way (not helped by the fact that Tuffy is actually a ''coworker'' of his)]], and even acts evil when no one is around. The movie's attempts to explain these other traits of [[spoiler:Slugworth's]] act [[VoodooShark end up falling flat and simply raise even more questions]].
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** Somehow, Violet's transformation into a blueberry looks ''worse'' than it did in the original film, to say nothing of the 2005 remake. For some bizarre reason the animators decided to replicate the effect of shining a spotlight on Violet's face in animation rather than giving her more blueberry-like colors, and she just ends up looking overweight instead of resembling a blueberry -- the animators did at least try to depict her continuing to inflate during the Oompa Loompa song, something that wouldn't have been feasible with the original, but the effect doesn't come across very well due to the scene constantly cutting back to Tom and Jerry.

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** Somehow, Violet's transformation into a blueberry looks ''worse'' than it did in the original film, to say nothing of the 2005 remake.version. For some bizarre reason the animators decided to replicate the effect of shining a spotlight on Violet's face in animation rather than giving her more blueberry-like colors, and she just ends up looking overweight instead of resembling a blueberry -- the animators did at least try to depict her continuing to inflate during the Oompa Loompa song, something that wouldn't have been feasible with the original, but the effect doesn't come across very well due to the scene constantly cutting back to Tom and Jerry.
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* MemeticMolester: Willy Wonka already had this reputation thanks to the previous films, moreso with the 2005 remake. If anything, this movie cements Wonka's reputation as this trope further thanks to the unnerving, devious smiles he makes at the end of the movie.

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* MemeticMolester: Willy Wonka already had this reputation thanks to the previous films, moreso with the 2005 remake.adaptation. If anything, this movie cements Wonka's reputation as this trope further thanks to the unnerving, devious smiles he makes at the end of the movie.
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* UncannyValley: The characters' facial expressions as well as many of their caricature-like designs. Yes, even in 2D animation ''that's not meant to be realistic.''

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* UncannyValley: The characters' facial expressions as well as many of their caricature-like designs. Yes, even in 2D animation ''that's not meant to be realistic.''''
* ViewerGenderConfusion: Tuffy's voice is unisex and childish. It sounds somewhere between Phil and Lil from ''WesternAnimation/{{Rugrats}}''.
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Since he turns out to have been acting, I don't think he qualifies.


* DesignatedVillain: Slugworth is played up as being incredibly bad, evil laughter and everything. But his base motivation, taking over the factory, isn't really that bad. [[spoiler: TheReveal that he was GoodAllAlong doesn't help]].
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** "[[Main/OriginalCharacter Original Movie, Do Not Steal!]]"[[note]]This is a pun on the trailer's announcement of the work, which brands it as an "all new original movie."[[/note]]

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** "[[Main/OriginalCharacter "[[OriginalCharacter Original Movie, Do Not Steal!]]"[[note]]This is a pun on the trailer's announcement of the work, which brands it as an "all new original movie."[[/note]]
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* AwesomeMoment: Even with the film's faults and all, [[spoiler:Veruca's father having enough of his daughter's tantrums after he escapes the furnace along with Veruca and Jerry, standing up for himself with an implication of him planning to punish his bratty daughter while dragging her by the ear is worth it.]]
** Tuffy reciting the poem in the infamous boat scene. The fact that they kept it in, uncensored, and had it border on being creepier than the original is just amazing.
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** "[[Main/OriginalCharacter Original Movie, Do Not Steal!]]"

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** "[[Main/OriginalCharacter Original Movie, Do Not Steal!]]"Steal!]]"[[note]]This is a pun on the trailer's announcement of the work, which brands it as an "all new original movie."[[/note]]
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** "[[Main/OriginalCharacter Original Movie, Do Not Steal!]]"
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Some people found the entire premise of remaking the '71 version so close after Wilder's passing to be an alienating choice let alone mixing Tom and Jerry in with it. See also BrokenBase.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Some people found the entire premise of remaking the 71 version so close after Wilder's passing to be an alienating choice let alone mixing Tom and Jerry in with it. See also BrokenBase.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Some people found the entire premise of remaking the 71 '71 version so close after Wilder's passing to be an alienating choice let alone mixing Tom and Jerry in with it. See also BrokenBase.

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* MemeticMolester: Willy Wonka already had this reputation thanks to the previous films, moreso with the 2005 remake. If anything, this movie cements Wonka's reputation as this trope further thanks to the unnerving, devious smiles he makes at the end of the movie.



** Violet's expression when she gives Wonka the golden ticket has been passed around a lot, too.

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** Violet's expression when she gives Wonka the golden ticket has been passed around a lot, too. Pretty much all of the surreal facial expressions are this, particularly Wonka's degenerated smiles at the very end.
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* AwesomeMoment: Say what you will about this version, but [[spoiler:Veruca's father having enough of his daughter's tantrums after he escapes the furnace along with Veruca and Jerry. Standing up for himself with an implication of him planning to punish his bratty daughter while dragging her by the ear is worth it.]]

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* AwesomeMoment: Say what you will about this version, but Even with the film's faults and all, [[spoiler:Veruca's father having enough of his daughter's tantrums after he escapes the furnace along with Veruca and Jerry. Standing Jerry, standing up for himself with an implication of him planning to punish his bratty daughter while dragging her by the ear is worth it.]]
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** The tunnel scene was already a BLAM in the original movie, but how about that scene with Willy's monologue...as performed by ''Tuffy?'' Complete with the word "hell" ''still intact?!''

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** The tunnel scene was already a BLAM in the original movie, but how about that the scene with Willy's monologue...monologue as performed by ''Tuffy?'' Complete ''Tuffy,'' complete with the word "hell" ''still intact?!''intact'', counts.



* DesignatedVillain: Slugworth is played up as being incredibly bad, evil laughter and everything. But his base motivation, taking over the factory, isn't really that bad. [[spoiler: TheReveal that he was GoodAllAlong doesn't help]]

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* DesignatedVillain: Slugworth is played up as being incredibly bad, evil laughter and everything. But his base motivation, taking over the factory, isn't really that bad. [[spoiler: TheReveal that he was GoodAllAlong doesn't help]]help]].



* EnsembleDarkhorse: Even the film's harshest critics will admit that the Fraudulent Fifth Golden Ticket Winner [[spoiler: (None other than '''Droopy''')]] was one of the few legitimately funny characters.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Even the film's harshest critics will admit that the Fraudulent Fifth Golden Ticket Winner [[spoiler: (None (none other than '''Droopy''')]] was one of the few legitimately funny characters.



* IdiotPlot: Wonka, why why oh ''why'' did you ''not'' tell Tuffy that [[spoiler:Slugworth worked for you?!]] Tuffy's reaction implies that this wasn't a SecretTestOfCharacter at all either like with everybody else...
** And on that note, why oh freaking '''''why''''' did Slugworth not tell Tom, Jerry, and Tuffy that [[spoiler:he really worked for Wonka?!]] It was understandable when he was so blatantly villainous with the kids [[spoiler:because it was all a SecretTestOfCharacter]], but what benefit was there to keeping up the charade around three characters who had nothing to gain from believing it?!

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* IdiotPlot: Wonka, why why oh ''why'' did you Wonka kicks off the plot by ''not'' tell telling Tuffy that [[spoiler:Slugworth worked for you?!]] him.]] Tuffy's reaction implies that this wasn't a SecretTestOfCharacter at all either like with everybody else...
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** And on that note, one ''has'' to wonder why oh freaking '''''why''''' did didn't Slugworth not tell Tom, Jerry, and Tuffy that [[spoiler:he really worked for Wonka?!]] Wonka.]] It was understandable when he was so blatantly villainous with the kids [[spoiler:because it was all a SecretTestOfCharacter]], but what benefit was there to keeping up the charade around three characters who had nothing to gain from believing it?!it?



* NightmareFuel: Those ''[[OffModel faces!]]'' The inconsistent animation and constant reaction shots can genuinely be unnerving thanks to severe UncannyValley as mentioned below, and especially [[http://i.imgur.com/PgK9IvQ.png Wonka's at the very end.]]
** There are also some people who consider this version of the boat scene to be ''even more batshit insane than the original'' due to the unsettling way Tuffy speaks the infamous lines from from the original movie (part of which were in the book too) and the creepy faces that feel rather...[[NightmareFace off]].

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* NightmareFuel: Those ''[[OffModel faces!]]'' The inconsistent animation and constant reaction shots can genuinely be unnerving thanks to severe UncannyValley as mentioned below, and especially [[http://i.imgur.com/PgK9IvQ.png Wonka's at the very end.]]
** There are also some people who consider this version of the boat scene to be ''even more batshit insane than the original'' due to the unsettling way Tuffy speaks the infamous lines from from the original movie (part of which were in the book too) and the creepy faces that feel rather...rather [[NightmareFace off]].



* {{Squick}}: Violet's gum-chewing. Yes, that is part of her character (that Roald Dahl thought it was gross), but do we really need to see her ''playing'' with her gum or when she talks?

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* {{Squick}}: Violet's gum-chewing. Yes, that is part of her character (that Roald Dahl thought it was gross), but do we really need to see her she's also shown ''playing'' with her gum or and it's still shown when she talks?talks.
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** The film being referred to as "Website/DeviantArt: TheMovie", due in no small part to the OffModel animation and blatant [[PlayingToTheTheFetishes fetish-pandering]] going on at numerous points.

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** The film being referred to as "Website/DeviantArt: TheMovie", due in no small part to the OffModel animation and blatant [[PlayingToTheTheFetishes [[{{Fanservice}} fetish-pandering]] going on at numerous points.
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** The film being referred to as "Website/DeviantArt: TheMovie", due in no small part to the OffModel animation and blatant [[PlayingToTheTheFetishes fetish-pandering]] going on at numerous points.
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Still not content with that, I understand the lack of it being long in the tooth but the one is fine in Tainted by the preview, But the way we had it before hand was too antagonistic by itself.


* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Some of the audience found the entire premise of remaking the 71 version so close after Wilder's passing to be an alienating choice. See further on BrokenBase and TaintedByThePreview

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Some of the audience people found the entire premise of remaking the 71 version so close after Wilder's passing to be an alienating choice. choice let alone mixing Tom and Jerry in with it. See further on BrokenBase and TaintedByThePreviewalso BrokenBase.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: A remake of the classic 1971 movie less than a year after Creator/GeneWilder's passing. You can tell a lot of people weren't amused judging by its like to dislike ratio on Website/YouTube. There are some fans who say that they would rather watch 1992's ''WesternAnimation/TomAndJerryTheMovie'' than this.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: A remake Some of the classic 1971 movie less than a year audience found the entire premise of remaking the 71 version so close after Creator/GeneWilder's passing. You can tell a lot of people weren't amused judging by its like Wilder's passing to dislike ratio be an alienating choice. See further on Website/YouTube. There are some fans who say that they would rather watch 1992's ''WesternAnimation/TomAndJerryTheMovie'' than this.BrokenBase and TaintedByThePreview



* BrokenBase: First this is the latest in the series of Tom and Jerry movies that has been operating with a sharp divide for years. Some detractors are prone to wondering how the series continues to exist and consider its continued existence an unwelcome presence. On the other hand, many of the fans who regularly support it are generally happy and feel most of the hate is confined to a periphery InternetBackdraft.[[note]]Very similar thoughts are echoed on its sibling entity the ''WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooDirectToVideoFilmSeries'' as both show how sharp divides still exist over HB properties to this day.[[/note]] Now it is crossing over with a franchise that has its own BrokenBase stirred on by the fact the original writer Creator/RoaldDahl fueled the fire whether the first movie lived up to the book or was a disgrace to it.[[note]]You can read more about their fights on their own pages from before this movie existed[[/note]] These volatile issues on their own when combined made this trope fly very high, and really it had zero chance of it not happening from the start.

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* BrokenBase: First this is the latest in the series of Tom and Jerry movies that has been operating with a sharp divide for years. Some detractors are prone to wondering how the series continues to exist and consider its continued existence an unwelcome presence. On the other hand, many of the fans who regularly support it are generally happy and feel most of the hate is confined to a periphery InternetBackdraft.[[note]]Very similar thoughts are echoed on its sibling entity the ''WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooDirectToVideoFilmSeries'' as both show how sharp divides still exist over HB properties to this day.[[/note]] Now it is crossing over with a franchise that has its own BrokenBase stirred on by the fact the original writer Creator/RoaldDahl fueled the fire whether the first movie lived up to the book or was a disgrace to it.[[note]]You can read more about their fights on their own pages from before this movie existed[[/note]] These volatile issues on their own when combined made this trope fly very high, trope's fires rage, and really it had zero chance of it not happening from the start.


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* TaintedByThePreview: The reveal of the trailer sparked some change in anticipation of this movie despite it having been known about on the internet for over a year before that with far less hostile responses. A possible reason for this is that the trailer was what first revealed it to be a near ShotForShotRemake of the '71 ''Willy Wonka'' movie. So while there were some who had previously been on the fence before, this may have been when they became alienated, especially as that movie is in itself a divide for fans of the book. Or those that were hoping for similar treatment as Tom and Jerry: Back To Oz.
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** This may cross over into TaintedByThePreview as a lot of that reaction seemed to stem off the reveal of the trailer even though the movie has been known about on the internet for over a year before that with far less hostile responses. A possible reason for this is that the trailer was what first revealed it to be a near ShotForShotRemake of the '71 ''Willy Wonka'' movie. So while there were some who had previously been on the fence before, this may have been when they became alienated, especially as that movie is in itself a divide for fans of the book.
** As it is also mentioned below in the BrokenBase entry, it is clear there is a section of people who are entirely sick of how WB continues to make Tom and Jerry movies like this and the mere premise alienated them as much as they could be. However this is the 13th entry in series that has been using this formula for several years and is still running strong. No series exists that long without some healthy fanbase supporting it. While it would be foolish for either side to deny the other's existence, exactly how much of the audience that bought this felt alienated by the premise is a very realistic question.
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I have zero problem removing any references to the Love It Or Hate It examples on these YMMV. However many of which need to reworded not just up and removed. Knowing both face similar sentiments is important without using that one page. I also fixed the Scooby page to reflect this.


* BrokenBase: First this is the latest in the series of Tom and Jerry movies that has been operating with a sharp divide for years. Some detractors are prone to wondering how the series continues to exist and consider its continued existence an unwelcome presence. On the other hand, many of the fans who regularly support it are generally happy and feel most of the hate is confined to a periphery InternetBackdraft. Now it is crossing over with a franchise that has its own BrokenBase stirred on by the fact the original writer Creator/RoaldDahl fueled the fire whether the first movie lived up to the book or was a disgrace to it.[[note]]You can read more about their fights on their own pages from before this movie existed[[/note]] These volatile issues on their own when combined made this trope fly very high, and really it had zero chance of it not happening from the start.

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* BrokenBase: First this is the latest in the series of Tom and Jerry movies that has been operating with a sharp divide for years. Some detractors are prone to wondering how the series continues to exist and consider its continued existence an unwelcome presence. On the other hand, many of the fans who regularly support it are generally happy and feel most of the hate is confined to a periphery InternetBackdraft. [[note]]Very similar thoughts are echoed on its sibling entity the ''WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooDirectToVideoFilmSeries'' as both show how sharp divides still exist over HB properties to this day.[[/note]] Now it is crossing over with a franchise that has its own BrokenBase stirred on by the fact the original writer Creator/RoaldDahl fueled the fire whether the first movie lived up to the book or was a disgrace to it.[[note]]You can read more about their fights on their own pages from before this movie existed[[/note]] These volatile issues on their own when combined made this trope fly very high, and really it had zero chance of it not happening from the start.

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