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* TechnologyMarchesOn: Many of the scientific miracles of the novel's world have either become commonplace ("telecomps" are now known as "laptops") or obsolete (a supercomputer large enough to require a mountain to be hollowed out for its processors). The easily subverted barcode bracelets and scanners would more likely be replaced by an implanted microchip and GPS.
** FridgeLogic: A security measure would only need updating once people learned to evade it, and it wouldn't even ''occur'' to a healthy, well-treated Member that it's possible to go somewhere without scanning. Therefore advancements in scanner technology might be a low priority, since the primary objective would simply be to track the population, rather than to restrict their movements. [[spoiler:Or those technologies have been deliberately suppressed by the ruling elite for reasons of their own.]]
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** FridgeLogic: A security measure would only need updating once people learned to evade it. Since all citizens are perfectly compliant, advancements in scanner technology might be a low priority, since the primary objective woudl simply be to track the population, rather than prevent them from going where they don't belong, since it wouldn't even occur to a healthy, well-treated Member to go anywhere of their own initiative. [[spoiler:Or those technologies have been deliberately suppressed by the ruling elite for reasons of their own.]]

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** FridgeLogic: A security measure would only need updating once people learned to evade it. Since all citizens are perfectly compliant, it, and it wouldn't even ''occur'' to a healthy, well-treated Member that it's possible to go somewhere without scanning. Therefore advancements in scanner technology might be a low priority, since the primary objective woudl would simply be to track the population, rather than prevent them from going where they don't belong, since it wouldn't even occur to a healthy, well-treated Member to go anywhere of restrict their own initiative.movements. [[spoiler:Or those technologies have been deliberately suppressed by the ruling elite for reasons of their own.]]
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** FridgeLogic: Since society is based on a lot of predestination based on the Family's overall needs, advancement in communication tech might have stalled in favor of focusing on genetic modifications and space colonization. It hasn't occurred to anyone that the old system of bracelets and telecomps needed updating, so no one's bothered to work on them. [[spoiler:Or those technologies have been deliberately suppressed by the ruling elite for reasons of their own.]]

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** FridgeLogic: A security measure would only need updating once people learned to evade it. Since society is based on a lot of predestination based on the Family's overall needs, advancement all citizens are perfectly compliant, advancements in communication tech scanner technology might have stalled in favor of focusing on genetic modifications and space colonization. It hasn't occurred to anyone that be a low priority, since the old system primary objective woudl simply be to track the population, rather than prevent them from going where they don't belong, since it wouldn't even occur to a healthy, well-treated Member to go anywhere of bracelets and telecomps needed updating, so no one's bothered to work on them.their own initiative. [[spoiler:Or those technologies have been deliberately suppressed by the ruling elite for reasons of their own.]]
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* ScienceMarchesOn: Many of the scientific miracles of the novel's world have either become commonplace ("telecomps" are now known as "laptops") or obsolete (a supercomputer large enough to require a mountain to be hollowed out for its processors). The easily subverted barcode bracelets and scanners would more likely be replaced by an implanted microchip and GPS.

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* ScienceMarchesOn: TechnologyMarchesOn: Many of the scientific miracles of the novel's world have either become commonplace ("telecomps" are now known as "laptops") or obsolete (a supercomputer large enough to require a mountain to be hollowed out for its processors). The easily subverted barcode bracelets and scanners would more likely be replaced by an implanted microchip and GPS.


* ValuesDissonance: How Chip's rape of Lilac is presented.

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* ScienceMarchesOn: Many of the scientific miracles of the novels world have either become commonplace ("telecomps" are now known as "laptops") or obsolete (a supercomputer large enough to require a mountain to be hollowed out for its processors). The easily subverted barcode bracelets and scanners would more likely be replaced by an implanted microchip.

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* ScienceMarchesOn: Many of the scientific miracles of the novels novel's world have either become commonplace ("telecomps" are now known as "laptops") or obsolete (a supercomputer large enough to require a mountain to be hollowed out for its processors). The easily subverted barcode bracelets and scanners would more likely be replaced by an implanted microchip.microchip and GPS.
** FridgeLogic: Since society is based on a lot of predestination based on the Family's overall needs, advancement in communication tech might have stalled in favor of focusing on genetic modifications and space colonization. It hasn't occurred to anyone that the old system of bracelets and telecomps needed updating, so no one's bothered to work on them. [[spoiler:Or those technologies have been deliberately suppressed by the ruling elite for reasons of their own.]]
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* ValuesDissonance: How Chip's rape of Lical is presented.

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* {{Narm}} -- Wei has the body of an athlete, but the head of an old man. Literally.
* ValuesDissonance -- See RapeIsLove on the main page.

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* {{Narm}} -- {{Narm}}: Wei has the body of an athlete, but the head of an old man. Literally.
* ValuesDissonance -- See RapeIsLove on ScienceMarchesOn: Many of the main page.scientific miracles of the novels world have either become commonplace ("telecomps" are now known as "laptops") or obsolete (a supercomputer large enough to require a mountain to be hollowed out for its processors). The easily subverted barcode bracelets and scanners would more likely be replaced by an implanted microchip.
* ValuesDissonance: How Chip's rape of Lical is presented.
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* Narm -- Wei has the body of an athlete, but the head of an old man. Literally.

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Designated Villain entry more of a rant. Maybe if it were rewritten...


* DesignatedVillain: It's been a long time [[{{Dracosolon}} ThisTroper]] haven't read the book, but... Why is this {{Dystopia}} so horrible, exactly, outside of the TastesLikeDiabetes feeling and the age limitation (Which, if morally abbhorent, is set at an age that exceed the life expectancy of a good part of today's population and seems a bit like a gratuitous KickTheDog precision). People actually ''have'' the opportunity to exerce a work they're good at, and the mind control is quite soft. Even if it's a quite despicable regime, its evilness somewhat pales in [[HeroicSociopath comparison]] [[RapeIsLove to]] [[WhatMeasureIsAMook the]] [[TerroristWithoutACause protagonist]], who seems to be in it simply because not being able like a low-case sociopath or a stupid, "edgy" teenager is [[GoodIsBoring somehow lame]].
* Narm -- Wei has the body of an athlet, but the head of an old man. Literally.

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* DesignatedVillain: It's been a long time [[{{Dracosolon}} ThisTroper]] haven't read the book, but... Why is this {{Dystopia}} so horrible, exactly, outside of the TastesLikeDiabetes feeling and the age limitation (Which, if morally abbhorent, is set at an age that exceed the life expectancy of a good part of today's population and seems a bit like a gratuitous KickTheDog precision). People actually ''have'' the opportunity to exerce a work they're good at, and the mind control is quite soft. Even if it's a quite despicable regime, its evilness somewhat pales in [[HeroicSociopath comparison]] [[RapeIsLove to]] [[WhatMeasureIsAMook the]] [[TerroristWithoutACause protagonist]], who seems to be in it simply because not being able like a low-case sociopath or a stupid, "edgy" teenager is [[GoodIsBoring somehow lame]].
* Narm -- Wei has the body of an athlet, athlete, but the head of an old man. Literally.
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* DesignatedVillain: It's been a long time [[{{Dracosolon ThisTroper}}]] haven't read the book, but... Why is this {{Dystopia}} so horrible, exactly, outside of the TastesLikeDiabetes feeling and the age limitation (Which, if morally abbhorent, is set at an age that exceed the life expectancy of a good part of today's population and seems a bit like a gratuitous KickTheDog precision). People actually ''have'' the opportunity to exerce a work they're good at, and the mind control is quite soft. Even if it's a quite despicable regime, its evilness somewhat pales in [[HeroicSociopath comparison]] [[RapeIsLove to]] [[WhatMeasureIsAMook the]] [[TerroristWithoutACause protagonist]], who seems to be in it simply because not being able like a low-case sociopath or a stupid, "edgy" teenager is [[GoodIsBoring somehow lame]].

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* DesignatedVillain: It's been a long time [[{{Dracosolon ThisTroper}}]] [[{{Dracosolon}} ThisTroper]] haven't read the book, but... Why is this {{Dystopia}} so horrible, exactly, outside of the TastesLikeDiabetes feeling and the age limitation (Which, if morally abbhorent, is set at an age that exceed the life expectancy of a good part of today's population and seems a bit like a gratuitous KickTheDog precision). People actually ''have'' the opportunity to exerce a work they're good at, and the mind control is quite soft. Even if it's a quite despicable regime, its evilness somewhat pales in [[HeroicSociopath comparison]] [[RapeIsLove to]] [[WhatMeasureIsAMook the]] [[TerroristWithoutACause protagonist]], who seems to be in it simply because not being able like a low-case sociopath or a stupid, "edgy" teenager is [[GoodIsBoring somehow lame]].
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* DesignatedVillain: It's been a long time [[{{Dracosolon I}}]] haven't read the book, but... Why is this {{Dystopia}} so horrible, exactly, outside of the TastesLikeDiabetes feeling and the age limitation (Which, if morally abbhorent, is set at an age that exceed the life expectancy of a good part of today's population and seems a bit like a gratuitous KickTheDog precision). People actually ''have'' the opportunity to exerce a work they're good at, and the mind control is quite soft. Even if it's a quite despicable regime, its evilness somewhat pales in [[HeroicSociopath comparison]] [[RapeIsLove to]] [[WhatMeasureIsAMook the]] [[TerroristWithoutACause protagonist]], who seems to be in it simply because not being able like a low-case sociopath or a stupid, "edgy" teenager is [[GoodIsBoring somehow lame]].

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* DesignatedVillain: It's been a long time [[{{Dracosolon I}}]] ThisTroper}}]] haven't read the book, but... Why is this {{Dystopia}} so horrible, exactly, outside of the TastesLikeDiabetes feeling and the age limitation (Which, if morally abbhorent, is set at an age that exceed the life expectancy of a good part of today's population and seems a bit like a gratuitous KickTheDog precision). People actually ''have'' the opportunity to exerce a work they're good at, and the mind control is quite soft. Even if it's a quite despicable regime, its evilness somewhat pales in [[HeroicSociopath comparison]] [[RapeIsLove to]] [[WhatMeasureIsAMook the]] [[TerroristWithoutACause protagonist]], who seems to be in it simply because not being able like a low-case sociopath or a stupid, "edgy" teenager is [[GoodIsBoring somehow lame]].
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* DesignatedVillain: It's been a long time [[Dracosolon I]] haven't read the book, but... Why is this {{Dystopia}} so horrible, exactly, outside of the TastesLikeDiabetes feeling and the age limitation (Which, if morally abbhorent, is set at an age that exceed the life expectancy of a good part of today's population and seems a bit like a gratuitous KickTheDog precision). People actually ''have'' the opportunity to exerce a work they're good at, and the mind control is quite soft. Even if it's a quite despicable regime, its evilness somewhat pales in [[HeroicSociopath comparison]] [[RapeIsLove to]] [[WhatMeasureIsAMook the]] [[TerroristWithoutACause protagonist]], who seems to be in it simply because not being able like a low-case sociopath or a stupid, "edgy" teenager is [[GoodIsBoring somehow lame]].

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* DesignatedVillain: It's been a long time [[Dracosolon I]] [[{{Dracosolon I}}]] haven't read the book, but... Why is this {{Dystopia}} so horrible, exactly, outside of the TastesLikeDiabetes feeling and the age limitation (Which, if morally abbhorent, is set at an age that exceed the life expectancy of a good part of today's population and seems a bit like a gratuitous KickTheDog precision). People actually ''have'' the opportunity to exerce a work they're good at, and the mind control is quite soft. Even if it's a quite despicable regime, its evilness somewhat pales in [[HeroicSociopath comparison]] [[RapeIsLove to]] [[WhatMeasureIsAMook the]] [[TerroristWithoutACause protagonist]], who seems to be in it simply because not being able like a low-case sociopath or a stupid, "edgy" teenager is [[GoodIsBoring somehow lame]].
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* DesignatedVillain: It's been a long time I haven't read the book, but... Why is this {{Dystopia}} so horrible, exactly, outside of the TastesLikeDiabetes feeling and the age limitation (Which, if morally abbhorent, is set at an age that exceed the life expectancy of a good part of today's population and seems a bit like a gratuitous KickThedog precision). People actually ''have'' the opportunity to exerce a work they're good at, and the mind control is quite soft. Even if it's a quite despicable regime, its evilness somewhat pales in [[HeroicSociopath comparison]] [[RapeIsLove to]] [[WhatMeasureIsAMook the]] [[TerroristWithoutACause protagonist]], who seems to be in it simply because not being able like a low-case sociopath or a stupid, "edgy" teenager is [[GoodsBoring somehow lame]].

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* DesignatedVillain: It's been a long time I [[Dracosolon I]] haven't read the book, but... Why is this {{Dystopia}} so horrible, exactly, outside of the TastesLikeDiabetes feeling and the age limitation (Which, if morally abbhorent, is set at an age that exceed the life expectancy of a good part of today's population and seems a bit like a gratuitous KickThedog KickTheDog precision). People actually ''have'' the opportunity to exerce a work they're good at, and the mind control is quite soft. Even if it's a quite despicable regime, its evilness somewhat pales in [[HeroicSociopath comparison]] [[RapeIsLove to]] [[WhatMeasureIsAMook the]] [[TerroristWithoutACause protagonist]], who seems to be in it simply because not being able like a low-case sociopath or a stupid, "edgy" teenager is [[GoodsBoring [[GoodIsBoring somehow lame]].
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* DesignatedVillain: It's been a long time I haven't read the book, but... Why is this {{Dystopia}} so horrible, exactly, outside of the TastesLikeDiabetes feeling and the age limitation (Which, if morally abbhorent, is set at an age that exceed the life expectancy of a good part of today's population and seems a bit like a gratuitous KickThedog precision). People actually ''have'' the opportunity to exerce a work they're good at, and the mind control is quite soft. Even if it's a quite despicable regime, its evilness somewhat pales in [[HeroicSociopath comparison]] [[RapeIsLove to]] [[WhatMeasureIsAMook the]] [[TerroristWithoutACause protagonist]], who seems to be in it simply because not being able like a low-case sociopath or a stupid, "edgy" teenager is [[GoodsBoring somehow lame]].
* Narm -- Wei has the body of an athlet, but the head of an old man. Literally.

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