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* StrangledByTheRedString: At the end, Susan Sto Helit and [[spoiler: Lobsang Ludd]] begin to talk as though they have mutual feelings for each other, and (it's implied) begin a romantic relationship. However, there has been nothing vaguely romantic in their interactions up to that point — which is odd, because there was a blossoming awkward romance between Jeremy and Myria/[[spoiler: Unity]], and Susan was quite taken with the idea of "someone like her" throughout the book. While Pterry does put in some hints that Lobsang is struck by Susan from the moment they meet, they are pretty subtle and only appear briefly before the urgency of the situation takes over.
* UnintentionalUncannyValley: Lady [=LeJean=] looks impossibly beautiful (being an idealization of the most beautiful image of a woman ever made on the Disc, rendered perfectly symmetrical by the Auditors whose concept of perfection is "mathematically consistent"). If that isn't enough to put her solidly in the Valley, because she's basically a MeatPuppet for something that has no understanding of human existence, she moves wrong at all levels. Instead of her face moving between expressions, it transitions instantly from one expression to the next without going through the intermediate stages. However, with her CharacterDevelopment, it's almost certain she gets over this as time goes by.

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* StrangledByTheRedString: At the end, Susan Sto Helit and [[spoiler: Lobsang Ludd]] begin to talk as though they have mutual feelings for each other, and (it's implied) begin a romantic relationship. However, there has been nothing vaguely romantic in their interactions up to that point — which is odd, because there was a blossoming awkward romance between Jeremy and Myria/[[spoiler: Unity]], and Susan was quite taken with the idea of "someone like her" throughout the book. While Pterry does put in some hints that Lobsang is struck by Susan from the moment they meet, they are pretty subtle and only appear briefly before the urgency of the situation takes over.
* UnintentionalUncannyValley: Lady [=LeJean=] looks impossibly beautiful (being an idealization of the most beautiful image of a woman ever made on the Disc, rendered perfectly symmetrical by the Auditors whose concept of perfection is "mathematically consistent"). If that isn't enough to put her solidly in the Valley, because she's basically a MeatPuppet for something that has no understanding of human existence, she moves wrong at all levels. Instead of her face moving between expressions, it transitions instantly from one expression to the next without going through the intermediate stages. However, with her CharacterDevelopment, it's almost certain she gets over this as time goes by.
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Uncanny Valley is IUEO now and the subjective version has been split; cleaning up misuse and ZCE in the process


* UncannyValley: Lady [=LeJean=] looks impossibly beautiful (being an idealization of the most beautiful image of a woman ever made on the Disc, rendered perfectly symmetrical by the Auditors whose concept of perfection is "mathematically consistent"). If that isn't enough to put her solidly in the Valley, because she's basically a MeatPuppet for something that has no understanding of human existence, she moves wrong at all levels. Instead of her face moving between expressions, it transitions instantly from one expression to the next without going through the intermediate stages. However, with her CharacterDevelopment, it's almost certain she gets over this as time goes by.
** Much more the case with the other embodied Auditors, who build blandly-nondescript bodies but can't ''move'' in them naturally like real humans.

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* UncannyValley: UnintentionalUncannyValley: Lady [=LeJean=] looks impossibly beautiful (being an idealization of the most beautiful image of a woman ever made on the Disc, rendered perfectly symmetrical by the Auditors whose concept of perfection is "mathematically consistent"). If that isn't enough to put her solidly in the Valley, because she's basically a MeatPuppet for something that has no understanding of human existence, she moves wrong at all levels. Instead of her face moving between expressions, it transitions instantly from one expression to the next without going through the intermediate stages. However, with her CharacterDevelopment, it's almost certain she gets over this as time goes by.
** Much more the case with the other embodied Auditors, who build blandly-nondescript bodies but can't ''move'' in them naturally like real humans.
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** Invar is mentioned as being useful for clockmakers due to being thermally stable. It's a real metal (a nickle/iron alloy) that has a very low coefficient of thermal expansion and as such is often used in applications where thermal stability is important.

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** Invar is mentioned as being useful for clockmakers due to being thermally stable. It's a real metal (a nickle/iron nickel/iron alloy) that has a very low coefficient of thermal expansion and as such is often used in applications where thermal stability is important.
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** The glass clock existing partially outside of this universe matches the theoretical description of a wormhole that leads to another universe, which helps explain how it suddenly is also a portal when it is completed. Things that are sucked through it are described as being stretched into a ring shape, which matches the "spaghettification" that is theorized to happen when something passes the event horizon.
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* UncannyValley: Lady [=LeJean=] looks impossibly beautiful (being an idealization of the most beautiful image of a woman ever made on the Disc, rendered perfectly symmetrical by the Auditors whose concept of perfection is "mathematically consistent"). If that isn't enough to put her solidly in the Valley, because she's basically a MeatPuppet for something that has no understanding of human existence, she moves wrong at all levels. Instead of her face moving from expression to expression, is sort of goes from expression to expression without her features going through the intermediate stages. However, with her CharacterDevelopment, it's almost certain she gets over this as time goes by.

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* UncannyValley: Lady [=LeJean=] looks impossibly beautiful (being an idealization of the most beautiful image of a woman ever made on the Disc, rendered perfectly symmetrical by the Auditors whose concept of perfection is "mathematically consistent"). If that isn't enough to put her solidly in the Valley, because she's basically a MeatPuppet for something that has no understanding of human existence, she moves wrong at all levels. Instead of her face moving between expressions, it transitions instantly from one expression to expression, is sort of goes from expression to expression the next without her features going through the intermediate stages. However, with her CharacterDevelopment, it's almost certain she gets over this as time goes by.
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* UncannyValley: Lady [=LeJean=] looks impossibly beautiful (being an idealization of the most beautiful image of a woman ever made on the Disc, rendered perfectly symmetrical). If that isn't enough to put her solidly in the Valley, because she's basically a MeatPuppet for something that has no understanding of human existence, she moves wrong at all levels. Instead of her face moving from expression to expression, is sort of goes from expression to expression without her features going through the intermediate stages. However, with her CharacterDevelopment, it's almost certain she gets over this as time goes by.

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* UncannyValley: Lady [=LeJean=] looks impossibly beautiful (being an idealization of the most beautiful image of a woman ever made on the Disc, rendered perfectly symmetrical).symmetrical by the Auditors whose concept of perfection is "mathematically consistent"). If that isn't enough to put her solidly in the Valley, because she's basically a MeatPuppet for something that has no understanding of human existence, she moves wrong at all levels. Instead of her face moving from expression to expression, is sort of goes from expression to expression without her features going through the intermediate stages. However, with her CharacterDevelopment, it's almost certain she gets over this as time goes by.
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* UncannyValley: Lady [=LeJean=] looks impossibly beautiful (being an idealization of the most beautiful image of a woman ever made on the Disc). If that isn't enough to put her solidly in the Valley, because she's basically a MeatPuppet for something that has no understanding of human existence, she moves wrong at all levels. Instead of her face moving from expression to expression, is sort of goes from expression to expression without her features going through the intermediate stages. However, with her CharacterDevelopment, it's almost certain she gets over this as time goes by.

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* UncannyValley: Lady [=LeJean=] looks impossibly beautiful (being an idealization of the most beautiful image of a woman ever made on the Disc).Disc, rendered perfectly symmetrical). If that isn't enough to put her solidly in the Valley, because she's basically a MeatPuppet for something that has no understanding of human existence, she moves wrong at all levels. Instead of her face moving from expression to expression, is sort of goes from expression to expression without her features going through the intermediate stages. However, with her CharacterDevelopment, it's almost certain she gets over this as time goes by.
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* StrangledByTheRedString: At the end, Susan Sto Helit and [[spoiler: Lobsang Ludd]] begin to talk as though they have mutual feelings for each other, and (it's implied) begin a romantic relationship. However, there has been nothing vaguely romantic in their interactions up to that point — which is odd, because there was a blossoming awkward romance between Jeremy and Myria/[[spoiler: Unity]], and Susan was quite taken with the idea of "someone like her" throughout the book. Obviously Sir Terry had a romance in mind from the start, but didn't put in any kind of hints when the two actually met face to face.

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* StrangledByTheRedString: At the end, Susan Sto Helit and [[spoiler: Lobsang Ludd]] begin to talk as though they have mutual feelings for each other, and (it's implied) begin a romantic relationship. However, there has been nothing vaguely romantic in their interactions up to that point — which is odd, because there was a blossoming awkward romance between Jeremy and Myria/[[spoiler: Unity]], and Susan was quite taken with the idea of "someone like her" throughout the book. Obviously Sir Terry had a romance While Pterry does put in mind some hints that Lobsang is struck by Susan from the start, but didn't put in any kind of hints when moment they meet, they are pretty subtle and only appear briefly before the two actually met face to face.urgency of the situation takes over.
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** Invar is mentioned as being useful for clockmakers due to being thermally stable. It's a real metal (a nickle/iron alloy) that has a very low coefficient of thermal expansion and as such is often used in applications where thermal stability is important.

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* GeniusBonus: The brief note on the awful quality of native Ankh-Morporkian chocolate is a subtle reference to very real history of similar food adultery and lackluster quality control in British history. Cocoa powder for drinking and for chocolate, during the 1800s and 1900s, was ''routinely'' being cut with, among other things, brick dust, red lead, iron filings, and vermilion. Even in the modern era, British attitudes towards chocolate quality are far less stringent than, say, German or Swedish ones. The British-designed Mars Bar, for example, is routinely known amongst chocolate makers as "the rubbish bar", as standard practice for the nougat center is to make it by melting down and recasting all of the nougat that ordinarily would have been thrown out due to being too substandard to sell on its own.

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** The depiction of the effects of time dilation is fairly accurate, barring a few fantastical aspects. In particular, because light is more diluted at higher time-speeds, the environment becomes darker. Moreover, because the subject is moving at a considerable percentage of lightspeed (especially by the standards of the Disc), everything in front is blueshifted. There is a HandWave thrown in about ghostly versions of light and sound, though, to explain why time-slicers are still able to converse.
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The brief note on the awful quality of native Ankh-Morporkian chocolate is a subtle reference to very real history of similar food adultery and lackluster quality control in British history. Cocoa powder for drinking and for chocolate, during the 1800s and 1900s, was ''routinely'' being cut with, among other things, brick dust, red lead, iron filings, and vermilion. Even in the modern era, British attitudes towards chocolate quality are far less stringent than, say, German or Swedish ones. The British-designed Mars Bar, for example, is routinely known amongst chocolate makers as "the rubbish bar", as standard practice for the nougat center is to make it by melting down and recasting all of the nougat that ordinarily would have been thrown out due to being too substandard to sell on its own.
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* GeniusBonus: The brief note on the awful quality of native Ankh-Morporkian chocolate is a subtle reference to very real history of similar food adultery and lackluster quality control in British history. Cocoa powder for drinking and for chocolate, during the 1800s and 1900s, was ''routinely'' being cut with, among other things, brick dust, red lead, iron filings, and vermilion. Even in the modern era, British attitudes towards chocolate quality are far less stringent than, say, German or Swedish ones. The British-designed Mars Bar, for example, is routinely known amongst chocolate makers as "the rubbish bar", as standard practice for the nougat center is to make it by melting down and recasting all of the nougat that ordinarily would have been thrown out due to being too substandard to sell on its own.
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* StrangledByTheRedString: At the end, Susan Sto Helit and [[spoiler: Lobsang Ludd]] begin to talk as though they have mutual feelings for each other, and (it's implied) begin a romantic relationship. However, there has been nothing vaguely romantic in their interactions up to that point — which is odd, because there was a blossoming awkward romance between Jeremy and Myria/[[spoiler: Unity]], and Susan was quite taken with the idea of "someone like her" throughout the book. Obviously Sir Terry had a romance in mind from the start, but didn't put in any kind of hints when the two actually met face to face.
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* UncannyValley: Lady [=LeJean=] looks impossibly beautiful (being an idealization of the most beautiful image of a woman ever made on the Disc). If that isn't enough to put her solidly in the Valley, because she's basically a MeatPuppet for something that has no understanding of human existence, she moves wrong at all levels. Instead of her face moving from expression to expression, is sort of goes from expression to expression without her features going through the intermediate stages. However, with her CharacterDevelopment, it's almost certain she gets over this as time goes by.

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* UncannyValley: Lady [=LeJean=] looks impossibly beautiful (being an idealization of the most beautiful image of a woman ever made on the Disc). If that isn't enough to put her solidly in the Valley, because she's basically a MeatPuppet for something that has no understanding of human existence, she moves wrong at all levels. Instead of her face moving from expression to expression, is sort of goes from expression to expression without her features going through the intermediate stages. However, with her CharacterDevelopment, it's almost certain she gets over this as time goes by.by.
** Much more the case with the other embodied Auditors, who build blandly-nondescript bodies but can't ''move'' in them naturally like real humans.
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* {{Chickification}}: Susan's big job in this book is collecting information before meeting Lobsang, who does all the actual heroism.
* StrangledByTheRedString: [[spoiler: Susan and Lobsang.]] Sure, there had been hints of it with all of the "someone like me" musings, but [[spoiler: Jeremy and Myria/Unity]] had more interactions of a romantic sort than they did...
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* {{Chickification}}: Susan's big job in this book is collecting information before meeting Lobsang, who does more of the heroism.

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* {{Chickification}}: Susan's big job in this book is collecting information before meeting Lobsang, who does more of all the actual heroism.

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* {{Chickification}}: Susan does pretty much nothing in this book but stand around and watch Lobsang do the heroism.
* StrangledByTheRedString: [[spoiler: Susan and Lobsang.]] Sure, there had been hints of it with all of the "someone like me" musings, but [[spoiler: Jeremy and Myria/Unity]] had more interactions of a romantic sort than they did...

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* {{Chickification}}: Susan does pretty much nothing Susan's big job in this book but stand around and watch Lobsang do is collecting information before meeting Lobsang, who does more of the heroism.
* StrangledByTheRedString: [[spoiler: Susan and Lobsang.]] Sure, there had been hints of it with all of the "someone like me" musings, but [[spoiler: Jeremy and Myria/Unity]] had more interactions of a romantic sort than they did...did...
* UncannyValley: Lady [=LeJean=] looks impossibly beautiful (being an idealization of the most beautiful image of a woman ever made on the Disc). If that isn't enough to put her solidly in the Valley, because she's basically a MeatPuppet for something that has no understanding of human existence, she moves wrong at all levels. Instead of her face moving from expression to expression, is sort of goes from expression to expression without her features going through the intermediate stages. However, with her CharacterDevelopment, it's almost certain she gets over this as time goes by.
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* {{Chickification}}: Susan does pretty much nothing in this book but stand around and watch Lobsang do the heroism.

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