History YMMV / TheWarlordChronicles

26th Dec '14 12:06:09 PM GriffinPilgrim
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** [[spoiler: Aella's]] [[SuicideByCop forcing Derfel]] to finish him (so he can die a warrior's death) is quite touching.

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** [[spoiler: Aella's]] [[SuicideByCop forcing Derfel]] to finish him (so he can die a warrior's death) is quite touching.touching.
** And, of course, pretty much everything about Camlann.
3rd Dec '14 7:39:54 PM fusilcontrafusil
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** [[spoiler: Aella's]] [[SuicideByCop forcing Derfel]] to finish him (so he can die a warrior's death) is quite touching.
* ValuesDissonance: All over the place.

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** [[spoiler: Aella's]] [[SuicideByCop forcing Derfel]] to finish him (so he can die a warrior's death) is quite touching.
* ValuesDissonance: All over the place.
touching.
28th Nov '14 3:20:01 PM FulminataXII
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** [[spoiler: Aella's]] [[SuicideByCop forcing Derfel]] to finish him (so he can die a warrior's death) is quite touching

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** [[spoiler: Aella's]] [[SuicideByCop forcing Derfel]] to finish him (so he can die a warrior's death) is quite touchingtouching.
* ValuesDissonance: All over the place.
19th Nov '14 12:25:46 PM JonShannow
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** [[spoiler: Tristain]] being made to fight King Mark's champion. He knows that he doesn't stand a chance.
** [[spoiler: Cuneglas']] death about half way through his fight he realises he can't win but still sends his men away when they try and rescue him because he knows he has to do it himself
28th Jun '14 4:42:39 PM JonShannow
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** [[spoiler: Aella's]] [[SuicideByCop forcing Derfel]] to finish him (so he can die a warrior's death) is quite touching
12th Mar '14 5:10:47 PM Ecclytennysmithylove
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* FridgeBrilliance: Why didn't the character of Derfel appear in medieval Arthurian myths? [[spoiler:Because he's ''Lancelot''. The medieval Lancelot reads like a [[CompositeCharacter Composite Character]] of ''this'' Lancelot and Derfel, having both Derfel's mystical upbringing by a sorceress and status as Arthur's champion, and Lancelot's homeland and betrayal. Gwenevere and Ceinwyn seem to have been given the same treatment.]]
** Derfel actually does appear in a number of early Arthur stories as a knight who becomes a monk, but his role is minor, and he's dropped from all the modern adaptations.
*** In addition, Derfel's role in the Quest for the Cauldron strongly resembles a composite of the roles of Lancelot and Percival...now tell me, what name does Percival sound like?
*** This does fit well with the recurring theme of songs and tales taking the place of the truth, that appears all throughout the books.
* FridgeLogic: In the first book, when Derfel and Galahad are sent on a mission to see King Gorfyddyd, the King, as an insult, directs them to sleep in the women's hall, rather than in the men's, the implication being that they aren't warrior enough for the honour. This Troper isn't the only one who thinks bunking two muscular young enemy warriors in among the ladies (including the king's own stunningly beautiful daughter Ceinwyn) is a potentially disastrous idea, right?
** Well, no-one said Gorfydyd was clever...
14th Feb '14 10:14:04 AM ACW
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** Gundleus is one of the first villains of the series. Initially a lord sworn to King Uther, Gunleus is also wicked and ambitious and has no intent of honoring his vows to serve his dead king's infant son Mordred. After the death of Uther, Gundleus approaches the baby with its young mother and then murders her after demanding she kiss his sword for protection, before stabbing the infant as well (unknown to him, the infant Mordred was swapped out with a decoy). He then proceeds to rape Merlin's disciple Nimue in retribution for her attitude towards him and rips out one of her eyes for spite. Even his affection for his lowborn lover is shown to be a farce as he abandons her when he gets a better betrothal offer.

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** Gundleus is one of the first villains of the series. Initially a lord sworn to King Uther, Gunleus Gundleus is also wicked and ambitious and has no intent of honoring his vows to serve his dead king's infant son Mordred. After the death of Uther, Gundleus approaches the baby with its young mother and then murders her after demanding she kiss his sword for protection, before stabbing the infant as well (unknown to him, the infant Mordred was swapped out with a decoy). He then proceeds to rape Merlin's disciple Nimue in retribution for her attitude towards him and rips out one of her eyes for spite. Even his affection for his lowborn lover is shown to be a farce as he abandons her when he gets a better betrothal offer.



** King Mark of Cornwall is well known for marrying much younger women [[TheBluebeard and killing them later when he's tired of them.]] When one of his betrothed, the young Isolde, escapes Mark with his nephew Tristan, Mark hunts them to Arthur's lands and demands satisfaction. Unable to break the peace [[ToBeLawfulOrGood Arthur is forced to compromise his morals]] by allowing Mark's 'justice,' allowing Tristan to engage in a fight he cannot win against Mark's champion who reluctantly kills the valiant knight. With Isolde back in his clutches, Mark immediately has her burned alive on the beach by where her beloved died before returning to Cornwall with smug satisfaction to continue his practices.

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** King Mark of Cornwall is well known for marrying much younger women [[TheBluebeard and killing them later when he's tired of them.]] When one of his betrothed, the young Isolde, escapes Mark with his nephew Tristan, Mark hunts them to Arthur's lands and demands satisfaction. Unable to break the peace [[ToBeLawfulOrGood Arthur is forced to compromise his morals]] by allowing Mark's 'justice,' "justice," allowing Tristan to engage in a fight he cannot win against Mark's champion who reluctantly kills the valiant knight. With Isolde back in his clutches, Mark immediately has her burned alive on the beach by where her beloved died before returning to Cornwall with smug satisfaction to continue his practices.
14th Feb '14 10:12:59 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: Gundleus deserves a special mention. Casually killing your betrothed and her baby and then raping another woman and ripping out one of her eyes earns someone a place in the Special Hell. ([[Series/{{Firefly}} Right next to the people who talk in movie theaters]]). Also, Dwirnach more than warrants a mention as well.
** King Mark deserves the title as well, marrying young women, abusing them for a couple of years, and then having them murdered. Even though he gets only one scene in the trilogy, it will make the reader utterly loathe him.

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* CompleteMonster: CompleteMonster:
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Gundleus deserves is one of the first villains of the series. Initially a special mention. Casually killing your betrothed lord sworn to King Uther, Gunleus is also wicked and her ambitious and has no intent of honoring his vows to serve his dead king's infant son Mordred. After the death of Uther, Gundleus approaches the baby with its young mother and then raping another woman murders her after demanding she kiss his sword for protection, before stabbing the infant as well (unknown to him, the infant Mordred was swapped out with a decoy). He then proceeds to rape Merlin's disciple Nimue in retribution for her attitude towards him and ripping rips out one of her eyes earns someone a place in the Special Hell. ([[Series/{{Firefly}} Right next for spite. Even his affection for his lowborn lover is shown to the people who talk in movie theaters]]). Also, be a farce as he abandons her when he gets a better betrothal offer.
** King
Dwirnach more than warrants of Ireland is a mention vicious tyrant aiming to conquer and kill. What sets Dwirnach apart from the other warlords of the series is his love of ColdBloodedTorture as well.
a hobby. Dwirnach prefers to take his enemies alive, so he can spend his time slowly flaying them. He even keeps the skins as perverse trophies and threatens to both rape and flay the hero Derfel's lover Princess Ceinwyn solely to satisfy his lust for pain.
** King Mark deserves the title as well, of Cornwall is well known for marrying much younger women [[TheBluebeard and killing them later when he's tired of them.]] When one of his betrothed, the young women, abusing Isolde, escapes Mark with his nephew Tristan, Mark hunts them for a couple of years, to Arthur's lands and then having them murdered. Even though he gets only one scene in demands satisfaction. Unable to break the trilogy, it will make peace [[ToBeLawfulOrGood Arthur is forced to compromise his morals]] by allowing Mark's 'justice,' allowing Tristan to engage in a fight he cannot win against Mark's champion who reluctantly kills the reader utterly loathe him.valiant knight. With Isolde back in his clutches, Mark immediately has her burned alive on the beach by where her beloved died before returning to Cornwall with smug satisfaction to continue his practices.
6th Jan '14 9:44:49 AM TheWanderer
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* CompleteMonster: Gundleus deserves a special mention. Casually killing your betrothed and her baby and then raping another woman and ripping out one of her eyes earns someone a place in the Special Hell. (Right next to the people who talk in movie theaters). Also, Dwirnach more than warrants a mention as well.

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* CompleteMonster: Gundleus deserves a special mention. Casually killing your betrothed and her baby and then raping another woman and ripping out one of her eyes earns someone a place in the Special Hell. (Right ([[Series/{{Firefly}} Right next to the people who talk in movie theaters).theaters]]). Also, Dwirnach more than warrants a mention as well.
1st Oct '13 5:59:37 PM Zmflavius
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* FridgeLogic: In the first book, when Derfel and Galahad are sent on a mission to see King Gorfydyd, the King, as an insult, directs them to sleep in the women's hall, rather than in the men's, the implication being that they aren't warrior enough for the honour. This Troper isn't the only one who thinks bunking two muscular young enemy warriors in among the ladies (including the king's own stunningly beautiful daughter Ceinwyn) is a potentially disastrous idea, right?

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* FridgeLogic: In the first book, when Derfel and Galahad are sent on a mission to see King Gorfydyd, Gorfyddyd, the King, as an insult, directs them to sleep in the women's hall, rather than in the men's, the implication being that they aren't warrior enough for the honour. This Troper isn't the only one who thinks bunking two muscular young enemy warriors in among the ladies (including the king's own stunningly beautiful daughter Ceinwyn) is a potentially disastrous idea, right?
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