History YMMV / TheVisionOfEscaflowne

26th Oct '16 2:45:28 PM TigressJade
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* ValuesDissonance: Allen's father neglected his wife and family because he fell in LoveAtFirstSight with Hitomi's grandmother (or thought of her as his non-romatic soulmate) when she was briefly transported to Gaia, and doesn't realize he really loved his wife until he was dying in the snow. Fair enough, it's a classic tragic love story... except the object of his obsession was probably not fully out of puberty when he met her. Later, Allen proposes to 16-year-old Hitomi partly to resolve the LoveTriangle with 14-year-old Millerna. In both cases the story treats this as "He's focusing on the wrong girl," not "Wait, she's ''how'' old?!". It's a JustifiedTrope [[DeliberateValuesDissonance when we consider that Gaea's set of values are close to the mindset reigning in the Renaissance, where high-class women were expected to be ''already'' married by Hitomi and Millerna's age.]]

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* ValuesDissonance: Allen's father neglected his wife and family because he fell in LoveAtFirstSight with Hitomi's grandmother (or thought of her as his non-romatic soulmate) when she was briefly transported to Gaia, and doesn't realize he really loved his wife until he was dying in the snow. Fair enough, it's a classic tragic love story... except the object of his obsession was probably not fully out of puberty when he met her. Later, Allen proposes to 16-year-old Hitomi partly to resolve the LoveTriangle with 14-year-old 17-year-old Millerna. In both cases the story treats this as "He's focusing on the wrong girl," not "Wait, she's ''how'' old?!". It's a JustifiedTrope [[DeliberateValuesDissonance when we consider that Gaea's set of values are close to the mindset reigning in the Renaissance, where high-class women were expected to be ''already'' married by Hitomi and Millerna's age.]]
25th Oct '16 8:12:16 PM MHUltimate2015DW
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** Ocean Dub vs Funimation Dub! [[LightNovel/ShakuganNoShana AGAIN!!!!!]]

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** Ocean Geneon Dub vs Funimation Dub! Dub [[LightNovel/ShakuganNoShana AGAIN!!!!!]]
11th Sep '16 3:54:39 PM MHUltimate2015DW
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** Ocean Dub vs Funimation Dub! [[LightNovel/ShakuganNoShana AGAIN!!!!!]]
***In particular Dilandau's New English voice. Fans are now debating as to whether or not Creator/JoelMcDonald's take on the character is better or worse than Creator/AndrewFrancis's take.
7th Aug '16 7:01:57 PM Anddrix
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* BaseBreaker: Hitomi. Some people feel she's a relatively strong and refreshing female character, while others feel she's devolved into your typical love sick shoujo anime lead. [[AmericansHateTingle The Italians absolutely hate her for some reason]].

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Hitomi. Some people feel she's a relatively strong and refreshing female character, while others feel she's devolved into your typical love sick shoujo anime lead. [[AmericansHateTingle The Italians absolutely hate her for some reason]].
15th Jul '16 10:10:17 PM TheNohrianDarkKnight
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* AudienceSurrogate : Hitomi Kanzaki is considered as one.



** As far as the Anglosphere is concerned, it was also pretty huge in Canada, perhaps even more so than in the states. It helps that the Canadian channel that carried it, Creator/{{YTV}}, butchered it A LOT less and actually aired all the episodes (with the cut dubbed version -- that FOX initially put out but cancelled -- placed in the afternoon, and the uncut dubbed version in the evening; and yes, with the same English-speaking cast).

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** As far as the Anglosphere is concerned, it was also pretty huge in Canada, perhaps even more so than in the states. It helps that the Canadian channel that carried it, Creator/{{YTV}}, butchered it A LOT less and actually aired all the episodes (with the cut dubbed version (recorded by Ocean Group) -- that FOX initially put out but cancelled -- placed in the afternoon, and the uncut dubbed version (also done by Ocean Group) in the evening; and yes, with the same English-speaking cast).



** Dilandau's English voice. Some people feel it fits just fine thanks to the actor's age at the time of the dub's production, while others feel it's WAY too squeaky and chirpy for him to the point where they actually prefer his AbridgedSeries voice instead.

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** Dilandau's Original English voice. Some people feel it fits just fine thanks to the actor's age at the time of the dub's production, while others feel it's WAY too squeaky and chirpy for him to the point where they actually prefer his AbridgedSeries voice instead.



* {{Narm}}: There are times when Dilandau seems to have a Master's degree in this. It's played up even harder in the English dub with Dilandau having an extremely high and chirpy voice that makes him sound like he's nine years old! [[spoiler: Justified in that he is actually a girl.]]

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* {{Narm}}: There are times when Dilandau seems to have a Master's degree in this. It's played up even harder in the original English dub with Dilandau having an extremely high and chirpy voice that makes him sound like he's nine years old! [[spoiler: Justified in that he is actually a girl.]]



** AndrewFrancis who voiced Dilandau in the English Dub should also be given a special mention considering that he did a good job in making the character sound like the [[AxeCrazy axe-crazy]] homicidal psychopath and pyromaniac that he is; and so Andrew's voice actually fits the role. Not only that but Andrew, at the time he did the voice-acting for the show and was going through puberty, was actually around the same age as Dilandau - fitting, isn't it? And not bad for a 14-15 year old. With that, Dilandau not only looks like a young teenage boy, but he actually sounds like one. [[spoiler: Note: Celena was voiced by a woman, not Andrew Francis, which still makes the voice-acting choices all the more interesting]].

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** AndrewFrancis who voiced Dilandau in the original English Dub should also be given a special mention considering that he did a good job in making the character sound like the [[AxeCrazy axe-crazy]] homicidal psychopath and pyromaniac that he is; and so Andrew's voice actually fits the role. Not only that but Andrew, at the time he did the voice-acting for the show and was going through puberty, was actually around the same age as Dilandau - fitting, isn't it? And not bad for a 14-15 year old. With that, Dilandau not only looks like a young teenage boy, but he actually sounds like one. [[spoiler: Note: Celena was voiced by a woman, not Andrew Francis, which still makes the voice-acting choices all the more interesting]].
24th May '16 8:51:32 PM Mauserhawkefd3435
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* AudienceSurrogate : Hitomi Kanzaki is considered as one.
26th Mar '16 6:10:48 PM MagBas
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* MarySue: Subverted. Hitomi starts off as an athletic fortune-telling cutie who is thrown into a fantasy world, obviously for purposes of ass-kicking and bringing forth a LoveDodecahedron... and then she spends half the series [[spoiler: clearing away the planet-wide consequences of her own egoism and unsettlement]]. As if that's not enough, she [[spoiler:gets away alive]] in the end, [[spoiler: but separated from her love interest]].
4th Jan '16 6:39:17 PM vermp12334
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* GatewaySeries

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* GatewaySeriesGatewaySeries: Thanks to it being VindicatedByHistory.


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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The [[NoExportForYou Japan-Only]] UsefulNotes/PlayStation game was not well received. The only saving grace was that the [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic soundtrack was beautiful]].
15th Nov '15 3:19:25 PM PurrElise
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* ItWasHisSled: [[spoiler: Dilandau is Celena.]]
5th Sep '15 1:53:18 PM Morgenthaler
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* MemeticSexGod: Everyone's a screaming, teenage fangirl for Allen.
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