History YMMV / TheThirteenthWarrior

20th Mar '17 6:17:43 AM Jan_z_Michal
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** Given they've spend ''three years'' on constant fights over the production of the movie and Crichton eventually enforced a massive recut of the third act, it's very much "versus".



* CultClassic: Although the film was panned by critics and was one of the biggest box office flops of all time, it does have a fair amount of fans who consider it to be a very good action/adventure film.

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* CultClassic: Although the film was panned by critics and was one of the biggest box office flops of all time, it does have a fair amount of fans who consider it to be a very good action/adventure film. Numerous critics also re-evaluated the movie years later, pointing out that while it suffers from choppy editing caused by panic after trial screening (leading to flat characters and numerous plot holes), it's still one of the last big budget movies made solely with practical effects, giving it an unique feel of authenticity and without any of the effects visibly aging.
13th Oct '16 2:07:55 PM StFan
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* AwesomeMusic: Even if you didn't care for the movie, you have to admit that Music/JerryGoldsmith's score is pretty awesome.
** So much so that Creator/RidleyScott used the cue "Valhalla/Viking Victory" for his film ''Film/KingdomOfHeaven''. Slightly controversial, given the director and the composer's turbulent relationship when they worked together on ''Film/{{Alien}}'' & ''Film/{{Legend 1985}}'' that saw Scott cutting off a large part of Goldsmith's music on the former and re-using parts of Goldsmith's earlier score from ''Freud''; while simultaneously throwing out Goldsmith's entire score in favor of Tangerine Dream's music for the latter. Bitter and upset by the rejection, Goldsmith never spoke to Scott again as a a result even unto his passing.

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* AwesomeMusic: Even if you didn't care for the movie, you have to admit that Music/JerryGoldsmith's score is pretty awesome.
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awesome. So much so that Creator/RidleyScott used the cue "Valhalla/Viking Victory" for his film ''Film/KingdomOfHeaven''. Slightly controversial, given the director and the composer's turbulent relationship when they worked together on ''Film/{{Alien}}'' & ''Film/{{Legend 1985}}'' that saw Scott cutting off a large part of Goldsmith's music on the former and re-using parts of Goldsmith's earlier score from ''Freud''; while simultaneously throwing out Goldsmith's entire score in favor of Tangerine Dream's music for the latter. Bitter and upset by the rejection, Goldsmith never spoke to Scott again as a a result even unto his passing.



* EnsembleDarkhorse: Among fans of the film, Herger the Joyful is undoubtably the most popular character.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: EnsembleDarkhorse:
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Among fans of the film, Herger the Joyful is undoubtably the most popular character.
4th Mar '16 5:07:44 AM erforce
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** So much so that Creator/RidleyScott used the cue "Valhalla/Viking Victory" for his film ''Film/KingdomOfHeaven''. Slightly controversial, given the director and the composer's turbulent relationship when they worked together on ''Film/{{Alien}}'' & ''Film/{{Legend}}'' that saw Scott cutting off a large part of Goldsmith's music on the former and re-using parts of Goldsmith's earlier score from ''Freud''; while simultaneously throwing out Goldsmith's entire score in favor of Tangerine Dream's music for the latter. Bitter and upset by the rejection, Goldsmith never spoke to Scott again as a a result even unto his passing.

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** So much so that Creator/RidleyScott used the cue "Valhalla/Viking Victory" for his film ''Film/KingdomOfHeaven''. Slightly controversial, given the director and the composer's turbulent relationship when they worked together on ''Film/{{Alien}}'' & ''Film/{{Legend}}'' ''Film/{{Legend 1985}}'' that saw Scott cutting off a large part of Goldsmith's music on the former and re-using parts of Goldsmith's earlier score from ''Freud''; while simultaneously throwing out Goldsmith's entire score in favor of Tangerine Dream's music for the latter. Bitter and upset by the rejection, Goldsmith never spoke to Scott again as a a result even unto his passing.
30th Jan '16 5:06:39 AM undertroper
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** So much so that Creator/RidleyScott used the cue "Valhalla/Viking Victory" for his film ''Film/KingdomOfHeaven''. Slightly controversial, given the director and the composer's turbulent relationship when they worked together on ''Film/{{Alien}}'' & ''Film/{{Legend}}'' that saw Scott cutting off a large part of Goldsmith's music on the former and re-using parts of Goldsmith's earlier score from ''Freud''; while simultaneously throwing out Goldsmith's entire score in favor of Tangerine Dream's music for the latter. Bitter and hurt, Goldsmith never spoke to Scott as a a result until his passing.

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** So much so that Creator/RidleyScott used the cue "Valhalla/Viking Victory" for his film ''Film/KingdomOfHeaven''. Slightly controversial, given the director and the composer's turbulent relationship when they worked together on ''Film/{{Alien}}'' & ''Film/{{Legend}}'' that saw Scott cutting off a large part of Goldsmith's music on the former and re-using parts of Goldsmith's earlier score from ''Freud''; while simultaneously throwing out Goldsmith's entire score in favor of Tangerine Dream's music for the latter. Bitter and hurt, upset by the rejection, Goldsmith never spoke to Scott again as a a result until even unto his passing.
29th Jan '16 5:11:17 PM undertroper
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* AwesomeMusic: Even if you didn't care for the movie, you have to admit that Jerry Goldsmith's score is pretty awesome.

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* AwesomeMusic: Even if you didn't care for the movie, you have to admit that Jerry Music/JerryGoldsmith's score is pretty awesome.
** So much so that Creator/RidleyScott used the cue "Valhalla/Viking Victory" for his film ''Film/KingdomOfHeaven''. Slightly controversial, given the director and the composer's turbulent relationship when they worked together on ''Film/{{Alien}}'' & ''Film/{{Legend}}'' that saw Scott cutting off a large part of
Goldsmith's music on the former and re-using parts of Goldsmith's earlier score is pretty awesome.from ''Freud''; while simultaneously throwing out Goldsmith's entire score in favor of Tangerine Dream's music for the latter. Bitter and hurt, Goldsmith never spoke to Scott as a a result until his passing.
11th Sep '15 8:20:55 PM mlsmithca
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* CoolVsAwesome: Well, not quite "versus" (although the TroubledProduction might hint at that...), but ''Michael Crichton'' (i.e. ''JurassicPark'') and ''John [=McTiernan=]'' (of ''Film/DieHard'' fame) working together on a project has to qualify.

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* CoolVsAwesome: Well, not quite "versus" (although the TroubledProduction might hint at that...), but ''Michael Crichton'' Michael Crichton (i.e. ''JurassicPark'') and ''John [=McTiernan=]'' John [=McTiernan=] (of ''Film/DieHard'' fame) working together on a project has to qualify.



* HeAlsoDid: This is the second film ''John McTiernan'' 's made based on Literature/Beowulf. His earlier movie Film/Predator was also influenced by the Norse epic.

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* HeAlsoDid: This is the second film ''John McTiernan'' 's John [=McTiernan=]'s made based on Literature/Beowulf. ''Literature/{{Beowulf}}''. His earlier movie Film/Predator ''Film/{{Predator}}'' was also influenced by the Norse epic.
4th Sep '15 9:06:40 PM NSlayton5
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** Buliwyf as well, the role that launched Vladimir Kulich into great acclaim and recognition,

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** Buliwyf as well, the role that launched Vladimir Kulich into great acclaim and recognition, recognition.
* HeAlsoDid: This is the second film ''John McTiernan'' 's made based on Literature/Beowulf. His earlier movie Film/Predator was also influenced by the Norse epic.
23rd Jun '15 6:45:03 AM darkjezter
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* CriticalDissonance: On Rotten Tomatoes the film only holds a 33% "fresh" rating with critics. But with audiences it holds a respectable 66% fresh rating.
1st Dec '13 4:00:18 PM alchixinren
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* CoolVsAwesome: Well, not quite "versus" (although the TroubledProduction might hint at that...), but ''Michael Crichton'' (i.e. ''JurassicPark'') and ''John [=McTiernan=]'' (of Film/''DieHard'' fame) working together on a project has to qualify.

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* CoolVsAwesome: Well, not quite "versus" (although the TroubledProduction might hint at that...), but ''Michael Crichton'' (i.e. ''JurassicPark'') and ''John [=McTiernan=]'' (of Film/''DieHard'' ''Film/DieHard'' fame) working together on a project has to qualify.
1st Dec '13 4:00:00 PM alchixinren
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* CoolVsAwesome: Well, not quite "versus" (although the TroubledProduction might hint at that...), but ''Michael Crichton'' (i.e. ''JurassicPark'') and ''John [=McTiernan=]'' (of Film/''DieHard'' fame) working together on a project has to qualify.
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