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* ContestedSequel: All three novels are somewhat thematically linked, while also being radically different enough from one another that it's easy to understand how audiences who liked one might not like the others as much, or even at all.
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* ValuesResonance: When listing examples of all that is base and ignoble in the British spirit, Dimble mentions famous imperialist Cecil Rhodes in the same breath as UsefulNotes/OliverCromwell and [[Myth/ArthurianLegend Mordred]]. At the time, Rhodes was often celebrated as a visionary businessman, but today he is more likely to be condemned for his virulent racism and cruel exploitation of the places he subjected to British control.
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* ValuesResonance: The series was condemning imperialism in the strongest possible terms ''long'' before it became chic to do so in intellectual circles:
** ''Out of the Silent Planet'' was allegedly at least partly based in Lewis's unhappiness with how Olaf Stapledon treated the Venusians in ''Literature/TheLastAndTheFirstMen''. The alien nature of Mars's inhabitants is no reason to treat them any differently from human beings, since they're people too, let alone try to kill them to take their land or plunder their world's mineral resources. And the fact that they have a different lifestyle and culture from Earth doesn't make them "primitives" either; they're a well-developed culture that's capable of more than they're given credit for.
** When listing examples of all that is base and ignoble in the British spirit, Dimble mentions famous imperialist Cecil Rhodes in the same breath as UsefulNotes/OliverCromwell and [[Myth/ArthurianLegend Mordred]]. At the time, Rhodes was often celebrated as a visionary businessman, but today he is more likely to be condemned for his virulent racism and cruel exploitation of the places he subjected to British control.
** ''Out of the Silent Planet'' was allegedly at least partly based in Lewis's unhappiness with how Olaf Stapledon treated the Venusians in ''Literature/TheLastAndTheFirstMen''. The alien nature of Mars's inhabitants is no reason to treat them any differently from human beings, since they're people too, let alone try to kill them to take their land or plunder their world's mineral resources. And the fact that they have a different lifestyle and culture from Earth doesn't make them "primitives" either; they're a well-developed culture that's capable of more than they're given credit for.
** When listing examples of all that is base and ignoble in the British spirit, Dimble mentions famous imperialist Cecil Rhodes in the same breath as UsefulNotes/OliverCromwell and [[Myth/ArthurianLegend Mordred]]. At the time, Rhodes was often celebrated as a visionary businessman, but today he is more likely to be condemned for his virulent racism and cruel exploitation of the places he subjected to British control.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: At the time the trilogy was first published, most aliens in SF stories were hostile savages intent on destroying humanity. For Lewis's aliens to be morally superior to man was a radical departure (for perspective, Creator/{{H P Lovecraft}}’s entire career happened before this book)… which was widely adopted by later writers, somewhat diluting its impact today. Though the thing that remains the most original with Lewis' premise is that his aliens still believe in a deity (one who is implied to be ''the same one who led the Hebrews out of Egypt'' at that), [[OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions while most other sci-fi examples don't]].
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: OnceOriginalNowCommon: At the time the trilogy was first published, most aliens in SF stories were hostile savages intent on destroying humanity. For Lewis's aliens to be morally superior to man was a radical departure (for perspective, Creator/{{H P Lovecraft}}’s entire career happened before this book)… which was widely adopted by later writers, somewhat diluting its impact today. Though the thing that remains the most original with Lewis' premise is that his aliens still believe in a deity (one who is implied to be ''the same one who led the Hebrews out of Egypt'' at that), [[OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions while most other sci-fi examples don't]].
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*** Except this is ''Jane's'' reaction to what she and Mark are both supposed to learn (and finally do) -- that you can't love someone on your own terms. While Jane confronts her fear of being treated instrumentally, the [[CommitmentIssues distrust and distance towards others this begets]], Mark slowly comes to understand that [[HeelRealization he has been hurting people in precisely this manner]], that he could have hurt Jane in precisely this manner and that he has no ownership over Jane, nor any title to said ownership. He thinks this outright on the last pages on the novel, on his way to meet Jane again.
*** Moreover, Jane has just as big of a problem with Logres' sole physician, Dr. Grace Ironwood, being female. So not only does she reject a societal role as a wife and mother for herself; she likewise rejects a societal role as a working professional. She doesn't want to play ''any'' role at all, and the real question is what ''does'' she want? She doesn't know and spends much of the book in an identity crisis.\\
In her religious experience near the end, she's not so much gifted a ''new'' identity[=/=]self by DivineIntervention as that she's given ''any'' identity[=/=]self at all.
*** Moreover, Jane has just as big of a problem with Logres' sole physician, Dr. Grace Ironwood, being female. So not only does she reject a societal role as a wife and mother for herself; she likewise rejects a societal role as a working professional. She doesn't want to play ''any'' role at all, and the real question is what ''does'' she want? She doesn't know and spends much of the book in an identity crisis.\\
In her religious experience near the end, she's not so much gifted a ''new'' identity[=/=]self by DivineIntervention as that she's given ''any'' identity[=/=]self at all.
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** In ''Literature/OutOfTheSilentPlanet'', the [[Main/{{Utopia}} sinless society of Mars]] is built upon the assumption that [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything certain races are naturally predisposed to certain types of work]] (i.e. all Hrossa are [[WarriorPoet Warrior Poets]], all Pfifltriggi are artistic tech geniuses and all séroni are philosophizing shepherds with no exception) in a way that eerily mirrors a FantasticCasteSystem. The possibility of hnau [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch not being happy with their lot in life]] is never brought up, [[AudienceSurrogate not even by Ransom]]. A modern novel would probably portray this negatively or, at least, have Ransom treat it with more apprehension.
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** In ''Literature/OutOfTheSilentPlanet'', the [[Main/{{Utopia}} sinless society of Mars]] is built upon the assumption that [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything certain races are naturally predisposed to certain types of work]] (i.e. all Hrossa are [[WarriorPoet Warrior Poets]], all Pfifltriggi are artistic tech geniuses and all séroni are philosophizing shepherds with no exception) in a way that eerily mirrors a FantasticCasteSystem. The possibility of hnau [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch not being happy with their lot in life]] [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot is never brought up, up]], [[AudienceSurrogate not even by Ransom]]. A modern novel would probably portray this negatively or, at least, have Ransom treat it with more apprehension.
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** In ''Literature/OutOfTheSilentPlanet'', the [[Main/{{Utopia}} sinless society of Mars]] is built upon the assumption that [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything certain races are naturally predisposed to certain types of work]] (i.e. all Hrossa are [[WarriorPoet Warrior Poets]], all Pfifltriggi are artistic tech geniuses and all séroni are philosophizing shepherds with no exception) in a way that eerily mirrors a FantasticCasteSystem. The possibility of hnau not being happy with their lot in life is never brought up, [[AudienceSurrogate not even by Ransom]]. A modern novel would probably portray this negatively or, at least, have Ransom treat it with more apprehension.
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** In ''Literature/OutOfTheSilentPlanet'', the [[Main/{{Utopia}} sinless society of Mars]] is built upon the assumption that [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything certain races are naturally predisposed to certain types of work]] (i.e. all Hrossa are [[WarriorPoet Warrior Poets]], all Pfifltriggi are artistic tech geniuses and all séroni are philosophizing shepherds with no exception) in a way that eerily mirrors a FantasticCasteSystem. The possibility of hnau [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch not being happy with their lot in life life]] is never brought up, [[AudienceSurrogate not even by Ransom]]. A modern novel would probably portray this negatively or, at least, have Ransom treat it with more apprehension.
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** In ''Literature/OutOfTheSilentPlanet'', the [[Main/{{Utopia}} sinless society of Mars]] is built upon the assumption that [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything certain races are naturally predisposed to certain types of work]] (i.e. all Hrossa are Warrior Poets, all Pfifltriggi are artistic tech geniuses and all séroni are philosophizing shepherds with no exception) in a way that eerily mirrors a FantasticCasteSystem. The possibility of hnau not being happy with their lot in life is never brought up, [[AudienceSurrogate not even by Ransom]]. A modern novel would probably portray this negatively or, at least, have Ransom treat it with more apprehension.
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** In ''Literature/OutOfTheSilentPlanet'', the [[Main/{{Utopia}} sinless society of Mars]] is built upon the assumption that [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything certain races are naturally predisposed to certain types of work]] (i.e. all Hrossa are [[WarriorPoet Warrior Poets, Poets]], all Pfifltriggi are artistic tech geniuses and all séroni are philosophizing shepherds with no exception) in a way that eerily mirrors a FantasticCasteSystem. The possibility of hnau not being happy with their lot in life is never brought up, [[AudienceSurrogate not even by Ransom]]. A modern novel would probably portray this negatively or, at least, have Ransom treat it with more apprehension.
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** In ''Literature/OutOfTheSilentPlanet'', [[{{Utopia}} the sinless society of Mars]] has a [[FantasticCasteSystem race-based caste system]]. None of the characters have a problem with this. The in-universe justification is that the castes are simply based on the [[PlanetOfHats nature of the races in question]]. In other words, all Hrossa are {{Warrior Poet}}s, all Pfifltriggi are artistic tech geniuses and all séroni are [[ThePhilosopher philosophizing]] shepherds [[PlanetOfHats with no exception]] (except possibly the bent hnau mentioned offhandedly in the book). In most modern stories, such a system would be [[{{Dystopia}} portrayed negatively]].
*** Is it a caste system, though? There's no stratification between races (Weston and Devine think there is, and so does Ransom a couple of times, but he's disabused of the notion). There's no stratification within them, either, except maybe age-related (young seroni are shepherds and become scholars as they're older; an old scholar is widely renowned and other seroni come to him to learn - because he knows so much). Nobody seems to do things because they're forced to, whether by economics or straight-out oppression. They do what comes naturally. Ransom talks to a Pfifltrigg at one point and discovers they're only pushed to work by their mates (which may or may not have been a joke) as well as that each and every Pfifltrigg is pretty much equal - they have mines, but there's no miners, rather every artist or artisan mines for themselves whatever they need for their work. At Meldilorn they're employed according to their skillsets, which would favour Pfifltriggi sculptors and Hrossa ferrymen, but isn't that simply a reasonable thing to do?
*** Is it a caste system, though? There's no stratification between races (Weston and Devine think there is, and so does Ransom a couple of times, but he's disabused of the notion). There's no stratification within them, either, except maybe age-related (young seroni are shepherds and become scholars as they're older; an old scholar is widely renowned and other seroni come to him to learn - because he knows so much). Nobody seems to do things because they're forced to, whether by economics or straight-out oppression. They do what comes naturally. Ransom talks to a Pfifltrigg at one point and discovers they're only pushed to work by their mates (which may or may not have been a joke) as well as that each and every Pfifltrigg is pretty much equal - they have mines, but there's no miners, rather every artist or artisan mines for themselves whatever they need for their work. At Meldilorn they're employed according to their skillsets, which would favour Pfifltriggi sculptors and Hrossa ferrymen, but isn't that simply a reasonable thing to do?
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** In ''Literature/OutOfTheSilentPlanet'', [[{{Utopia}} the [[Main/{{Utopia}} sinless society of Mars]] has a [[FantasticCasteSystem race-based caste system]]. None of is built upon the characters have a problem with this. The in-universe justification is assumption that the castes are simply based on the [[PlanetOfHats nature of the [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything certain races in question]]. In other words, are naturally predisposed to certain types of work]] (i.e. all Hrossa are {{Warrior Poet}}s, Warrior Poets, all Pfifltriggi are artistic tech geniuses and all séroni are [[ThePhilosopher philosophizing]] philosophizing shepherds [[PlanetOfHats with no exception]] (except possibly the bent exception) in a way that eerily mirrors a FantasticCasteSystem. The possibility of hnau mentioned offhandedly not being happy with their lot in the book). In most life is never brought up, [[AudienceSurrogate not even by Ransom]]. A modern stories, such a system novel would be [[{{Dystopia}} portrayed negatively]].
*** Is it a caste system, though? There's no stratification between races (Weston and Devine think there is, and so doesprobably portray this negatively or, at least, have Ransom a couple of times, but he's disabused of the notion). There's no stratification within them, either, except maybe age-related (young seroni are shepherds and become scholars as they're older; an old scholar is widely renowned and other seroni come to him to learn - because he knows so much). Nobody seems to do things because they're forced to, whether by economics or straight-out oppression. They do what comes naturally. Ransom talks to a Pfifltrigg at one point and discovers they're only pushed to work by their mates (which may or may not have been a joke) as well as that each and every Pfifltrigg is pretty much equal - they have mines, but there's no miners, rather every artist or artisan mines for themselves whatever they need for their work. At Meldilorn they're employed according to their skillsets, which would favour Pfifltriggi sculptors and Hrossa ferrymen, but isn't that simply a reasonable thing to do?treat it with more apprehension.
*** Is it a caste system, though? There's no stratification between races (Weston and Devine think there is, and so does
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** In ''Literature/OutOfTheSilentPlanet'', [[{{Utopia}} the sinless society of Mars]] has a [[FantasticCasteSystem race-based caste system]]. None of the characters have a problem with this. The in-universe justification is that the castes are simply based on the [[PlanetOfHats nature of the races in question]]. In other words, all Hrossa are {{Warrior Poet}}s, all Pfifltriggi are artistic tech geniuses and all séroni are [[ThePhilosopher philosophizing]] shepherds [[PlanetOfHats with no exception]] (except possibly the Bent hnau mentioned offhandedly in the book). In most modern stories, such a system would be [[{{Dystopia}} portrayed negatively]].
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** In ''Literature/OutOfTheSilentPlanet'', [[{{Utopia}} the sinless society of Mars]] has a [[FantasticCasteSystem race-based caste system]]. None of the characters have a problem with this. The in-universe justification is that the castes are simply based on the [[PlanetOfHats nature of the races in question]]. In other words, all Hrossa are {{Warrior Poet}}s, all Pfifltriggi are artistic tech geniuses and all séroni are [[ThePhilosopher philosophizing]] shepherds [[PlanetOfHats with no exception]] (except possibly the Bent bent hnau mentioned offhandedly in the book). In most modern stories, such a system would be [[{{Dystopia}} portrayed negatively]].negatively]].
*** Is it a caste system, though? There's no stratification between races (Weston and Devine think there is, and so does Ransom a couple of times, but he's disabused of the notion). There's no stratification within them, either, except maybe age-related (young seroni are shepherds and become scholars as they're older; an old scholar is widely renowned and other seroni come to him to learn - because he knows so much). Nobody seems to do things because they're forced to, whether by economics or straight-out oppression. They do what comes naturally. Ransom talks to a Pfifltrigg at one point and discovers they're only pushed to work by their mates (which may or may not have been a joke) as well as that each and every Pfifltrigg is pretty much equal - they have mines, but there's no miners, rather every artist or artisan mines for themselves whatever they need for their work. At Meldilorn they're employed according to their skillsets, which would favour Pfifltriggi sculptors and Hrossa ferrymen, but isn't that simply a reasonable thing to do?
*** Is it a caste system, though? There's no stratification between races (Weston and Devine think there is, and so does Ransom a couple of times, but he's disabused of the notion). There's no stratification within them, either, except maybe age-related (young seroni are shepherds and become scholars as they're older; an old scholar is widely renowned and other seroni come to him to learn - because he knows so much). Nobody seems to do things because they're forced to, whether by economics or straight-out oppression. They do what comes naturally. Ransom talks to a Pfifltrigg at one point and discovers they're only pushed to work by their mates (which may or may not have been a joke) as well as that each and every Pfifltrigg is pretty much equal - they have mines, but there's no miners, rather every artist or artisan mines for themselves whatever they need for their work. At Meldilorn they're employed according to their skillsets, which would favour Pfifltriggi sculptors and Hrossa ferrymen, but isn't that simply a reasonable thing to do?
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** In ''Literature/OutOfTheSilentPlanet'', [[{{Utopia}} the sinless society of Mars]] has a [[FantasticCasteSystem race-based caste system]]. None of the characters have a problem with this. The in-universe justification is that the castes are simply based on the [[PlanetOfHats nature of the races in question]]. In other words, all Hrossa are {{Warrior Poet}}s, all Pfifltriggi are artistic tech geniuses and all séroni are [[ThePhilosopher philosophizing]] shepherds with no exception (except possibly the Bent hnau mentioned offhandedly in the book). In most modern stories, such a system would be [[Main/{{Dystopia}} portrayed negatively]].
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** In ''Literature/OutOfTheSilentPlanet'', [[{{Utopia}} the sinless society of Mars]] has a [[FantasticCasteSystem race-based caste system]]. None of the characters have a problem with this. The in-universe justification is that the castes are simply based on the [[PlanetOfHats nature of the races in question]]. In other words, all Hrossa are {{Warrior Poet}}s, all Pfifltriggi are artistic tech geniuses and all séroni are [[ThePhilosopher philosophizing]] shepherds [[PlanetOfHats with no exception exception]] (except possibly the Bent hnau mentioned offhandedly in the book). In most modern stories, such a system would be [[Main/{{Dystopia}} [[{{Dystopia}} portrayed negatively]].
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** While Ransom tries to deduce which planet he's on in ''Out of the Silent Planet'', he concludes that it isn't Venus, because he thought Venus would be a bit hotter. This was written in 1938, almost twenty-five years before the surface temperature of Venus was measured and found to be ''ludicrously'' hotter than Earth's rather than just "[[{{Understatement}} a bit]]".
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** While Ransom tries to deduce which planet he's on in ''Out of the Silent Planet'', ''Literature/OutOfTheSilentPlanet'', he concludes that it isn't Venus, because he thought Venus would be a bit hotter. This was written in 1938, almost twenty-five years before the surface temperature of Venus was measured and found to be ''ludicrously'' hotter than Earth's rather than just "[[{{Understatement}} a bit]]".
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* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: ''Perelandra'' can get rather trippy at times...
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* StealthPun: The oblivious figurehead of the villainous N.I.C.E. is Horace Jules, a clear parody of H. G. Wells. Now, not only does his last name recall his contemporary SF author, Jules Verne, but if you pronounce "H. Jules" aloud, it sounds a fair bit like "H. Gee-wells."
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* ValuesDissonance: The long discussions about gender roles in ''That Hideous Strength'', as several of the protagonists try to convince the feminist Jane Studdock that a woman's place is to submit to her husband, can seem very odd to modern-day readers, especially those who don't share Lewis's traditionalist views on the subject.
** Except this is ''Jane's'' reaction to what she and Mark are both supposed to learn (and finally do) - that you can't love someone on your own terms. While Jane confronts her fear of being treated instrumentally, the [[CommitmentIssues distrust and distance towards others this begets]], Mark slowly comes to understand that [[HeelRealization he has been hurting people in precisely this manner]], that he could have hurt Jane in precisely this manner and that he has no ownership over Jane, nor any title to said ownership. He thinks this outright on the last pages on the novel, on his way to meet Jane again.
** Except this is ''Jane's'' reaction to what she and Mark are both supposed to learn (and finally do) - that you can't love someone on your own terms. While Jane confronts her fear of being treated instrumentally, the [[CommitmentIssues distrust and distance towards others this begets]], Mark slowly comes to understand that [[HeelRealization he has been hurting people in precisely this manner]], that he could have hurt Jane in precisely this manner and that he has no ownership over Jane, nor any title to said ownership. He thinks this outright on the last pages on the novel, on his way to meet Jane again.
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** The long discussions about gender roles in ''That Hideous Strength'', as several of the protagonists try to convince the feminist Jane Studdock that a woman's place is to submit to her husband, can seem very odd to modern-day readers, especially those who don't share Lewis's traditionalist views on the subject.
** *** Except this is ''Jane's'' reaction to what she and Mark are both supposed to learn (and finally do) - -- that you can't love someone on your own terms. While Jane confronts her fear of being treated instrumentally, the [[CommitmentIssues distrust and distance towards others this begets]], Mark slowly comes to understand that [[HeelRealization he has been hurting people in precisely this manner]], that he could have hurt Jane in precisely this manner and that he has no ownership over Jane, nor any title to said ownership. He thinks this outright on the last pages on the novel, on his way to meet Jane again.
** The long discussions about gender roles in ''That Hideous Strength'', as several of the protagonists try to convince the feminist Jane Studdock that a woman's place is to submit to her husband, can seem very odd to modern-day readers, especially those who don't share Lewis's traditionalist views on the subject.
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** In ''Literature/OutOfTheSilentPlanet'', [[Main/{{Utopia}} the sinless society of Mars]] has a [[FantasticCasteSystem race-based caste system]]. None of the characters have a problem with this. The in-universe justification is that the castes are simply based on the [[PlanetofHats nature of the races in question]]. In other words, all Hrossa are [[WarriorPoet Warrior Poets]], all Pfifltriggi are artistic tech geniuses and all séroni are [[ThePhilosopher philosophizing]] shepherds with no exception (except possibly the Bent hnau mentioned offhandedly in the book). In most modern stories, such a system would be [[Main/{{Dystopia}} portrayed negatively]].
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** In ''Literature/OutOfTheSilentPlanet'', [[Main/{{Utopia}} [[{{Utopia}} the sinless society of Mars]] has a [[FantasticCasteSystem race-based caste system]]. None of the characters have a problem with this. The in-universe justification is that the castes are simply based on the [[PlanetofHats [[PlanetOfHats nature of the races in question]]. In other words, all Hrossa are [[WarriorPoet Warrior Poets]], {{Warrior Poet}}s, all Pfifltriggi are artistic tech geniuses and all séroni are [[ThePhilosopher philosophizing]] shepherds with no exception (except possibly the Bent hnau mentioned offhandedly in the book). In most modern stories, such a system would be [[Main/{{Dystopia}} portrayed negatively]].
