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* HardToAdaptWork: Despite many adaptations that have been made over the years, in [[WordOfGod C. S. Lewis's own opinion]], the book was inherently unstageable and unfilmable, and he turned down several requests for permission to adapt it. It's not hard to see his point, considering the book is an EpistolaryNovel from the point of view of an UnreliableNarrator, and any plot arc is mostly incidental to Screwtape's essays on moral philosophy. One author pitched Lewis a script that used a FramingDevice; Lewis's advice was that the framing story would work so much better on stage that the author should just go ahead and make it into its own play, leaving Screwtape out of it!
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* ValuesResonance: Many of Lewis’ comments have aged incredibly well. For example, gluttons like the Patient's mother (an [[ObnoxiousEntitledHousewife obnoxious]] and demanding UnsatisfiableCustomer) are still sowing pain and discontent today. Other examples include preaching how science and religion can coexist without going into conflict, pointing out corruption in churches, criticizing human pettiness, and examining subtle but dangerous forms of lust.

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* ValuesResonance: Many of Lewis’ comments have aged incredibly well. For example, gluttons like the Patient's mother (an [[ObnoxiousEntitledHousewife obnoxious]] and demanding UnsatisfiableCustomer) are still sowing pain and discontent today. Other examples include preaching how science and religion can coexist without going into conflict, and should coexist, pointing out corruption in churches, criticizing human pettiness, and examining subtle but dangerous forms of lust.
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Zapped per Thread Discussion; the example is a shoehorn that conflates atheism with dictatorial governments.


* HarsherInHindsight: At one point Screwtape refers to atheism as the next belief to strategize around. This takes on a disturbing RealitySubtext (and can be considered insightful, depending on your beliefs) given the increasing pushes for secularization in Western Society, [[DirtyCommunists Marxist regimes]] including the [[UsefulNotes/{{Cambodia}} Khmer Rouge]], and the [[BeliefMakesYouStupid New Atheism movement.]]
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* HarsherInHindsight: At one point Screwtape refers to atheism as their hot, new weapon in the 1950's. This takes on a disturbing RealitySubtext (and can be considered insightful, depending on your beliefs) given the increasing pushes for secularization in Western Society, [[DirtyCommunists Marxist regimes]] including the [[UsefulNotes/{{Cambodia}} Khmer Rouge]], and the [[BeliefMakesYouStupid New Atheism movement.]]

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* HarsherInHindsight: At one point Screwtape refers to atheism as their hot, new weapon in the 1950's.next belief to strategize around. This takes on a disturbing RealitySubtext (and can be considered insightful, depending on your beliefs) given the increasing pushes for secularization in Western Society, [[DirtyCommunists Marxist regimes]] including the [[UsefulNotes/{{Cambodia}} Khmer Rouge]], and the [[BeliefMakesYouStupid New Atheism movement.]]
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The text does not specifically say atheism came into being at that time, only that it will become a weapon in that time.

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* HarsherInHindsight: At one point Screwtape refers to atheism as their hot, new weapon in the 1950's. This takes on a disturbing RealitySubtext (and can be considered insightful, depending on your beliefs) given the increasing pushes for secularization in Western Society, [[DirtyCommunists Marxist regimes]] including the [[UsefulNotes/{{Cambodia}} Khmer Rouge]], and the [[BeliefMakesYouStupid New Atheism movement.]]
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It's factually wrong. Atheists existed LONG before the 1950s.


* HarsherInHindsight: At one point Screwtape refers to atheism as their hot, new weapon in the 1950's. This takes on a disturbing RealitySubtext (and can be considered insightful, depending on your beliefs) given the increasing pushes for secularization in Western Society, [[DirtyCommunists Marxist regimes]] including the [[UsefulNotes/{{Cambodia}} Khmer Rouge]], and the [[BeliefMakesYouStupid New Atheism movement.]]

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That would be a reasonable point if these "vocal" people existed, but since whoever posted this just made them up, it isn't.


* HarsherInHindsight:
** At one point Screwtape refers to atheism as their hot, new weapon in the 1950's. This takes on a disturbing RealitySubtext (and can be considered insightful, depending on your beliefs) given the increasing pushes for secularization in Western Society, [[DirtyCommunists Marxist regimes]] including the [[UsefulNotes/{{Cambodia}} Khmer Rouge]], and the [[BeliefMakesYouStupid New Atheism movement.]]
** Screwtape's complaint that cowardice is the one vice that the demons have failed to make seem attractive no longer rings true, what with certain vocal people nowadays who claim selfishness is a virtue and self-preservation the greatest good, such that they feel no shame in cowardice and rationalize it as looking out for themselves and asserting that doing otherwise is illogical.

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HarsherInHindsight: At one point Screwtape refers to atheism as their hot, new weapon in the 1950's. This takes on a disturbing RealitySubtext (and can be considered insightful, depending on your beliefs) given the increasing pushes for secularization in Western Society, [[DirtyCommunists Marxist regimes]] including the [[UsefulNotes/{{Cambodia}} Khmer Rouge]], and the [[BeliefMakesYouStupid New Atheism movement.]]
** Screwtape's complaint that cowardice is the one vice that the demons have failed to make seem attractive no longer rings true, what with certain vocal people nowadays who claim selfishness is a virtue and self-preservation the greatest good, such that they feel no shame in cowardice and rationalize it as looking out for themselves and asserting that doing otherwise is illogical.
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Genocide is not the focus, the focus is on atheism supplanting and attacking religion, which are indeed two things the New Atheist movement did. It became quite infamous for its non-violent and indeed violent hostility towards those who held religious beliefs, especially Christianity.


** At one point Screwtape refers to atheism as their hot, new weapon in the 1950's. This takes on a disturbing RealitySubtext (and can be considered insightful, depending on your beliefs) given the increasing pushes for secularization in Western Society, [[DirtyCommunists Marxist regimes]] including the [[UsefulNotes/{{Cambodia}} Khmer Rouge]] and, to a much lesser degree, the New Atheism movement.

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** At one point Screwtape refers to atheism as their hot, new weapon in the 1950's. This takes on a disturbing RealitySubtext (and can be considered insightful, depending on your beliefs) given the increasing pushes for secularization in Western Society, [[DirtyCommunists Marxist regimes]] including the [[UsefulNotes/{{Cambodia}} Khmer Rouge]] and, to a much lesser degree, Rouge]], and the [[BeliefMakesYouStupid New Atheism movement.]]

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: How much of Screwtape's advice to Wormwood is genuinely meant to help him, and how much is it an attempt to set him up for failure?



** At one point Screwtape refers to atheism as their hot, new weapon in the 1950's. This takes on a disturbing RealitySubtext (and can be considered insightful, depending on your beliefs) given the increasing pushes for secularization in Western Society, Marxist regimes including the Khmer Rouge and, to a much lesser degree, the New Atheism movement.
** Screwtape's complaint that cowardice is the one vice that the demons have failed to make seem attractive no longer rings true.

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** At one point Screwtape refers to atheism as their hot, new weapon in the 1950's. This takes on a disturbing RealitySubtext (and can be considered insightful, depending on your beliefs) given the increasing pushes for secularization in Western Society, [[DirtyCommunists Marxist regimes regimes]] including the [[UsefulNotes/{{Cambodia}} Khmer Rouge Rouge]] and, to a much lesser degree, the New Atheism movement.
** Screwtape's complaint that cowardice is the one vice that the demons have failed to make seem attractive no longer rings true.true, what with certain vocal people nowadays who claim selfishness is a virtue and self-preservation the greatest good, such that they feel no shame in cowardice and rationalize it as looking out for themselves and asserting that doing otherwise is illogical.
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I think it goes without saying why mentioning genociding regimes and non-religious people who aren't genociding in the same breath is not a great idea.


** At one point Screwtape refers to atheism as their hot, new weapon in the 1950's. This takes on a disturbing RealitySubtext (and can be considered insightful, depending on your beliefs) given the increasing pushes for secularization in Western Society, Marxist regimes including the Khmer Rouge and the New Atheism movement.

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** At one point Screwtape refers to atheism as their hot, new weapon in the 1950's. This takes on a disturbing RealitySubtext (and can be considered insightful, depending on your beliefs) given the increasing pushes for secularization in Western Society, Marxist regimes including the Khmer Rouge and and, to a much lesser degree, the New Atheism movement.
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** Screwtape's complaint that cowardice is the one vice that the demons have failed to make seem attractive no longer rings true, what with the Creator/AynRand's followers nowadays who claim selfishness is a virtue and self-preservation the greatest good, such that they feel no shame in cowardice and rationalize it as looking out for themselves and asserting that doing otherwise is illogical.

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** Screwtape's complaint that cowardice is the one vice that the demons have failed to make seem attractive no longer rings true, what with the Creator/AynRand's followers nowadays who claim selfishness is a virtue and self-preservation the greatest good, such that they feel no shame in cowardice and rationalize it as looking out for themselves and asserting that doing otherwise is illogical.true.
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* ParanoiaFuel: The book suggests that every thought of a human being is influenced and corrupted by demons so as to turn them away from God, even those thoughts which are religious in nature. Even those who think they are repenting are actually doing no such thing, because their “virtues” are merely corruptions instilled by demons, and as such are inching closer to damnation.

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* ParanoiaFuel: The book suggests that every thought of a human being is may be influenced and corrupted by demons so as to turn them away from God, even those thoughts which are religious in nature. Even those who think they are repenting are may actually be doing no such thing, because their “virtues” are merely corruptions instilled by demons, and as such are inching closer to damnation.thing.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: The story is extremely unsubtle on [[AuthorTract Lewis’ beliefs]], literally demonizing those he disagrees with by having an agent of {{Hell}} taking responsibility for their beliefs.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: The story is extremely unsubtle on [[AuthorTract Lewis’ beliefs]], literally demonizing those he disagrees with by having an agent of {{Hell}} very clear about Lewis' beliefs, posing that every thought and action taking responsibility for their beliefs.you away from God is product of a devil subtly whispering in your ear. It must be noted that Lewis, a former atheist, based Screwtape's modus operandi in his own personal temptations.



** Screwtape’s complaint that cowardice is the one vice that the demons have failed to make seem attractive no longer rings true, what with the [[Creator/AynRand Randroids]] nowadays who claim selfishness is a virtue and self-preservation the greatest good, such that they feel no shame in cowardice and rationalize it as [[ItsAllAboutMe “looking out for Number One”]] and asserting that doing otherwise is “illogical”.

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** Screwtape’s Screwtape's complaint that cowardice is the one vice that the demons have failed to make seem attractive no longer rings true, what with the [[Creator/AynRand Randroids]] Creator/AynRand's followers nowadays who claim selfishness is a virtue and self-preservation the greatest good, such that they feel no shame in cowardice and rationalize it as [[ItsAllAboutMe “looking looking out for Number One”]] themselves and asserting that doing otherwise is “illogical”.illogical.
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* ParanoiaFuel: The book suggests that every thought of a human being is influenced and corrupted by demons so as to turn them away from God, even those thoughts which are religious in nature. Even those who think they are repenting are actually doing no such thing, because their “virtues” are merely corruptions instilled by demons, and as such are coming closer to damnation.

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* ParanoiaFuel: The book suggests that every thought of a human being is influenced and corrupted by demons so as to turn them away from God, even those thoughts which are religious in nature. Even those who think they are repenting are actually doing no such thing, because their “virtues” are merely corruptions instilled by demons, and as such are coming inching closer to damnation.

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* HarsherInHindsight: At one point Screwtape refers to atheism as their hot, new weapon in the 1950's. This takes on a disturbing RealitySubtext (and can be considered insightful, depending on your beliefs) given the increasing pushes for secularization in Western Society, Marxist regimes including the Khmer Rouge and the New Atheism movement.

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* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
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At one point Screwtape refers to atheism as their hot, new weapon in the 1950's. This takes on a disturbing RealitySubtext (and can be considered insightful, depending on your beliefs) given the increasing pushes for secularization in Western Society, Marxist regimes including the Khmer Rouge and the New Atheism movement.movement.
** Screwtape’s complaint that cowardice is the one vice that the demons have failed to make seem attractive no longer rings true, what with the [[Creator/AynRand Randroids]] nowadays who claim selfishness is a virtue and self-preservation the greatest good, such that they feel no shame in cowardice and rationalize it as [[ItsAllAboutMe “looking out for Number One”]] and asserting that doing otherwise is “illogical”.
* ParanoiaFuel: The book suggests that every thought of a human being is influenced and corrupted by demons so as to turn them away from God, even those thoughts which are religious in nature. Even those who think they are repenting are actually doing no such thing, because their “virtues” are merely corruptions instilled by demons, and as such are coming closer to damnation.
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* ValuesResonance: Many of Lewis’ comments have aged incredibly well. For example, gluttons like the Patient's mother (an [[ObnoxiousEntitledHousewife obnoxious and demanding]] UnsatisfiableCustomer) are still sowing pain and discontent today. Other examples include preaching how science and religion can coexist without going into conflict, pointing out corruption in churches, criticizing human pettiness, and examining subtle but dangerous forms of lust.

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* ValuesResonance: Many of Lewis’ comments have aged incredibly well. For example, gluttons like the Patient's mother (an [[ObnoxiousEntitledHousewife obnoxious obnoxious]] and demanding]] demanding UnsatisfiableCustomer) are still sowing pain and discontent today. Other examples include preaching how science and religion can coexist without going into conflict, pointing out corruption in churches, criticizing human pettiness, and examining subtle but dangerous forms of lust.
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* ValuesResonance: Many of Lewis’ comments have aged incredibly well. His section on the Patient's mother and how being an [[ObnoxiousEntitledHousewife obnoxious and demanding customer at a restaurant]] represents its own form of gluttony is very modern, for instance. Other examples include preaching how science and religion can coexist without going into conflict, pointing out corruption in churches, criticizing human pettiness, and examining subtle but dangerous forms of lust.

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* ValuesResonance: Many of Lewis’ comments have aged incredibly well. His section on For example, gluttons like the Patient's mother and how being an (an [[ObnoxiousEntitledHousewife obnoxious and demanding customer at a restaurant]] represents its own form of gluttony is very modern, for instance.demanding]] UnsatisfiableCustomer) are still sowing pain and discontent today. Other examples include preaching how science and religion can coexist without going into conflict, pointing out corruption in churches, criticizing human pettiness, and examining subtle but dangerous forms of lust.
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Fixing a malapropism.


* {{Anvilicious}}: The story is extremely unsubtle on [[AuthorTract Lewis’ beliefs]], literally demonizing those he disagrees with by having an ancient of {{Hell}} taking responsibility for their beliefs.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: The story is extremely unsubtle on [[AuthorTract Lewis’ beliefs]], literally demonizing those he disagrees with by having an ancient agent of {{Hell}} taking responsibility for their beliefs.
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* ValuesResonance: Many of Lewis’ comments have aged incredibly well. His section on the Patient's mother and how being an [[ObnoxiousEntitledHousewife obnoxious and demanding customer at a restaurant]] represents its own form of gluttony is very modern, for instance. Other examples include preaching how science and religion can coexist without going into conflict, pointing out corruption in churches, criticizing human pettiness, and exaninung subtle but dangerous forms of lust.

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* ValuesResonance: Many of Lewis’ comments have aged incredibly well. His section on the Patient's mother and how being an [[ObnoxiousEntitledHousewife obnoxious and demanding customer at a restaurant]] represents its own form of gluttony is very modern, for instance. Other examples include preaching how science and religion can coexist without going into conflict, pointing out corruption in churches, criticizing human pettiness, and exaninung examining subtle but dangerous forms of lust.
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* ValuesResonance: It certainly helps that many of Lewis’ comments on things like how science and religion coexist without going into conflict, corruption in churches, human pettiness, and subtle but dangerous forms of lust [[ValuesResonance have only gotten more relatable]]. His section on the Patient's mother and how being an [[ObnoxiousEntitledHousewife obnoxious and demanding customer at a restaurant]] represents its own form of gluttony is very modern, for instance.

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* ValuesResonance: It certainly helps that many Many of Lewis’ comments on things like how science and religion coexist without going into conflict, corruption in churches, human pettiness, and subtle but dangerous forms of lust [[ValuesResonance have only gotten more relatable]].aged incredibly well. His section on the Patient's mother and how being an [[ObnoxiousEntitledHousewife obnoxious and demanding customer at a restaurant]] represents its own form of gluttony is very modern, for instance. Other examples include preaching how science and religion can coexist without going into conflict, pointing out corruption in churches, criticizing human pettiness, and exaninung subtle but dangerous forms of lust.

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Some Anvils Need To Be Dropped got cut and the example written even potholes to another YMMV trope that fits it better.


* {{Anvilicious}}: The story is extremely unsubtle on [[AuthorTract Lewis’ beliefs]], literally demonizing those he disagrees with by having an ancient of {{Hell}} taking responsibility for their beliefs.



* HarsherInHindsight: At one point Screwtape refers to atheism as their hot, new weapon in the 1950's. This takes on a disturbing RealitySubtext (and can be considered insightful, depending on your beliefs) given the increasing pushes for secularization in Western Society, Marxist regimes including the Khmer Rouge and the New Atheism movement.
* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: The story is extremely unsubtle on [[AuthorTract Lewis’ beliefs]], however many agree this is done to the story’s advantage. It certainly helps that many of Lewis’ comments on things like how science and religion coexist without going into conflict, corruption in churches, human pettiness, and subtle but dangerous forms of lust [[ValuesResonance have only gotten more relatable]]. His section on the Patient's mother and how being an [[ObnoxiousEntitledHousewife obnoxious and demanding customer at a restaurant]] represents its own form of gluttony is very modern, for instance.

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* FanficFuel: The format inspired quite a few people to try and write letters from Screwtape tackling issues they care about. Most don't quite have the same charm as the original.
* HarsherInHindsight: At one point Screwtape refers to atheism as their hot, new weapon in the 1950's. This takes on a disturbing RealitySubtext (and can be considered insightful, depending on your beliefs) given the increasing pushes for secularization in Western Society, Marxist regimes including the Khmer Rouge and the New Atheism movement.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: The story is extremely unsubtle on [[AuthorTract Lewis’ beliefs]], however many agree this is done to the story’s advantage. ValuesResonance: It certainly helps that many of Lewis’ comments on things like how science and religion coexist without going into conflict, corruption in churches, human pettiness, and subtle but dangerous forms of lust [[ValuesResonance have only gotten more relatable]]. His section on the Patient's mother and how being an [[ObnoxiousEntitledHousewife obnoxious and demanding customer at a restaurant]] represents its own form of gluttony is very modern, for instance.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: The story is extremely unsubtle on [[AuthorTract Lewis’ beliefs]], however many agree this is done to the story’s advantage. It certainly helps that many of Lewis’ comments on things like how science and religion coexist without going into conflict, corruption in churches, human pettiness, and subtle but dangerous forms of lust [[ValuesResonance have only gotten more relatable]].

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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: The story is extremely unsubtle on [[AuthorTract Lewis’ beliefs]], however many agree this is done to the story’s advantage. It certainly helps that many of Lewis’ comments on things like how science and religion coexist without going into conflict, corruption in churches, human pettiness, and subtle but dangerous forms of lust [[ValuesResonance have only gotten more relatable]]. His section on the Patient's mother and how being an [[ObnoxiousEntitledHousewife obnoxious and demanding customer at a restaurant]] represents its own form of gluttony is very modern, for instance.
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Not only is North Korea Marxist In Name Only, but the people there actually literally worship the Kims, even going so far as to pray to them.


* HarsherInHindsight: At one point Screwtape refers to atheism as their hot, new weapon in the 1950's. This takes on a disturbing RealitySubtext (and can be considered insightful, depending on your beliefs) given the increasing pushes for secularization in Western Society, Marxist regimes including North Korea's Kim Dynasty and Khmer Rouge and the New Atheism movement.

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* HarsherInHindsight: At one point Screwtape refers to atheism as their hot, new weapon in the 1950's. This takes on a disturbing RealitySubtext (and can be considered insightful, depending on your beliefs) given the increasing pushes for secularization in Western Society, Marxist regimes including North Korea's Kim Dynasty and the Khmer Rouge and the New Atheism movement.
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* HarsherInHindsight or HilariousInHindsight: At one point Screwtape refers to atheism as their hot, new weapon in the 1950's. This takes on a disturbing RealitySubtext (and can be considered insightful, depending on your beliefs) given the increasing pushes for secularization in Western Society, Marxist regimes including North Korea's Kim Dynasty and Khmer Rouge and the New Atheism movement.
* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: The story is extremely unsubtle on [[AuthorTract Lewis’ beliefs]], however many agree this is done to the story’s advantage. It certainly helps that many of Lewis’ comments on things like how science and religion ''can'' coexist, corruption in churches, human pettiness, and subtle but dangerous forms of lust [[ValuesResonance have only gotten more relatable]].

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* HarsherInHindsight or HilariousInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight: At one point Screwtape refers to atheism as their hot, new weapon in the 1950's. This takes on a disturbing RealitySubtext (and can be considered insightful, depending on your beliefs) given the increasing pushes for secularization in Western Society, Marxist regimes including North Korea's Kim Dynasty and Khmer Rouge and the New Atheism movement.
* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: The story is extremely unsubtle on [[AuthorTract Lewis’ beliefs]], however many agree this is done to the story’s advantage. It certainly helps that many of Lewis’ comments on things like how science and religion ''can'' coexist, coexist without going into conflict, corruption in churches, human pettiness, and subtle but dangerous forms of lust [[ValuesResonance have only gotten more relatable]].
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* HarsherInHindsight: At one point Screwtape refers to atheism as their hot, new weapon in the 1950's. This takes on a disturbing RealitySubtext (and can be considered insightful, depending on your beliefs) given the increasing pushes for secularization in Western Society, Marxist regimes including North Korea's Kim Dynasty and Khmer Rouge and the New Atheism movement.

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* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight or HilariousInHindsight: At one point Screwtape refers to atheism as their hot, new weapon in the 1950's. This takes on a disturbing RealitySubtext (and can be considered insightful, depending on your beliefs) given the increasing pushes for secularization in Western Society, Marxist regimes including North Korea's Kim Dynasty and Khmer Rouge and the New Atheism movement.

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