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* QuestionableCasting:
** While she's long since proven her musical theatre chops, Sutton Foster being chosen to play Marian Paroo opposite Creator/HughJackman's Harold Hill raised a few eyebrows. The reason for this being that Marian is a classical soprano, a sound that can't truly be replicated by a mezzo like Foster. The actress herself even admitted she never dreamed of playing the part because of the difference in voice type. Surprisingly enough, unlike most examples of this trope, the general reaction to the casting was positive, even if there were people naming sopranos besides Foster who could've played Marian without lowered keys. ''Because'' she is Sutton Foster, though, most people seem willing to at least give her a chance.
** Creator/MatthewBroderick as Harold Hill in the TV Movie whose portrayal stands out as quite awkward and lacking in any of the manly grit and charm that Harold is usually played with. Which is frankly bizarre when you consider that [[Film/FerrisBuellersDayOff he quite famously knocked the role of a charismatic con artist out of the park earlier in his career]]. Exacerbated by the fact that though *Creator/KristinChenoweth played a pitch-perfect Marian in the same film, Broderick had no chemistry with her and their singing voices didn’t blend.



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** While she's long since proven her musical theatre chops, Sutton Foster being chosen to play Marian Paroo opposite Creator/HughJackman's Harold Hill raised a few eyebrows. The reason for this being that Marian is a classical soprano, a sound that can't truly be replicated by a mezzo like Foster. The actress herself even admitted she never dreamed of playing the part because of the difference in voice type. Surprisingly enough, unlike most examples of this trope, the general reaction to the casting was positive, even if there were people naming sopranos besides Foster who could've played Marian without lowered keys. ''Because'' she is Sutton Foster, though, most people seem willing to at least give her a chance.
** Creator/MatthewBroderick as Harold Hill in the TV Movie whose portrayal stands out as quite awkward and lacking in any of the manly grit and charm that Harold is usually played with. Which is frankly bizarre when you consider that [[Film/FerrisBuellersDayOff he quite famously knocked the role of a charismatic con artist out of the park earlier in his career]]. Exacerbated by the fact that though *Creator/KristinChenoweth played a pitch-perfect Marian in the same film, Broderick had no chemistry with her and their singing voices didn’t blend.

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** In a bit of historical irony, [[Music/MichaelJackson the future King of Pop]] was born in that very city the year after the musical debuted.
* HilariousInHindsight: The salemen on the train are ''rapping!'' This concept actually came full circle during the 2014 Tony Awards, when [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx2N2ohbEWQ LL Cool J and T.I. performed the song with Hugh Jackman]].[[note]]Though ''Theatre/InTheHeights'' was the first time rap was performed at the Tonys.[[/note]]

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* HilariousInHindsight:
** In a bit of historical irony, [[Music/MichaelJackson the future King of Pop]] was born in that very city the year after the musical debuted.
* HilariousInHindsight:
The salemen on the train are essentially ''rapping!'' This concept actually came full circle during the 2014 Tony Awards, when [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx2N2ohbEWQ LL Cool J and T.I. performed the song with Hugh Jackman]].[[note]]Though ''Theatre/InTheHeights'' was the first time rap was performed at the Tonys.[[/note]][[/note]]
** After having a whole song dedicated to the town, [[Music/MichaelJackson the future King of Pop Music]] was born in Gary, Indiana the year after the musical debuted.
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** Creator/MatthewBroderick as Harold Hill in the TV Movie whose portrayal stands out as quite awkward and lacking in any of the manly grit and charm that Harold is usually played with. Which is frankly bizarre when you consider that [[Film/FerrisBuellersDayOff he quite famously knocked the role of a charismatic con artist out of the park earlier in his career]].

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** Creator/MatthewBroderick as Harold Hill in the TV Movie whose portrayal stands out as quite awkward and lacking in any of the manly grit and charm that Harold is usually played with. Which is frankly bizarre when you consider that [[Film/FerrisBuellersDayOff he quite famously knocked the role of a charismatic con artist out of the park earlier in his career]]. Exacerbated by the fact that though *Creator/KristinChenoweth played a pitch-perfect Marian in the same film, Broderick had no chemistry with her and their singing voices didn’t blend.
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** The ill-fated 1980 Broadway revival featured another future teen star as Winthrop: Creator/ChristianSlater.
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* UnacceptableTargets: Meredith Willson personally wrote in copies of the libretto for amateur productions ''not'' to treat the Iowans' small-town quaintness with derision because, to them, it's not supposed to be ironic.
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** In the piano lesson scene, Mrs. Paroo outright tells Marian that other women shouldn't listen to her advice because she isn't married. Definitely a little uncomfortable nowadays.
** Harold Hill describes several theoretical circumstances in "Trouble" that a pool table would supposedly lead the kids of town to, which are meant to be mundane yet which elicit strong moral panic amount the small-town folk Harold sings to. While most things feel even more quaint today (see the below trope for clarification), one of his warnings is about kids having nicotine stains. Unlike most of the song, this would if anything be seen as ''more'' concerning today than the town residents act like, due to increasing awareness of the dangers of nicotine.
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** Creator/MatthewBroderick as Harold Hill in the TV Movie whose portrayal stands out as quite awkward and lacking in any of the manly grit and charm that Harold is usually played with. Which is frankly bizarre when you consider that [[FerrisBuellersDayOff he quite famously knocked the role of a charismatic con artist out of the park earlier in his career]].

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** Creator/MatthewBroderick as Harold Hill in the TV Movie whose portrayal stands out as quite awkward and lacking in any of the manly grit and charm that Harold is usually played with. Which is frankly bizarre when you consider that [[FerrisBuellersDayOff [[Film/FerrisBuellersDayOff he quite famously knocked the role of a charismatic con artist out of the park earlier in his career]].
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** Creator/MatthewBroderick as Harold Hill in the TV Movie whose portrayal stands out as quite awkward and lacking in any of the manly grit and charm that Harold is usually played with.

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** Creator/MatthewBroderick as Harold Hill in the TV Movie whose portrayal stands out as quite awkward and lacking in any of the manly grit and charm that Harold is usually played with. Which is frankly bizarre when you consider that [[FerrisBuellersDayOff he quite famously knocked the role of a charismatic con artist out of the park earlier in his career]].
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* ValuesDissonance: Mrs. Paroo is clearly not disturbed (actually enthusiastic) about Marion telling her a strange man was following her home and chides the latter for being too stubborn to open up to him, and that she will end up as an OldMaid if she keeps it up. These days (given how being older and single isn't the worst thing in the world, the awareness over stalking and respecting boundaries especially those of women) if Mrs. Paroo were to say and do something that similar she'd be TooDumbToLive at best and a EvilMatriarch at worst.

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* ValuesDissonance: Mrs. Paroo is clearly not disturbed (actually enthusiastic) about Marion telling her a strange man was following her home and chides the latter her for being too stubborn to open up to him, and that she will end up as an OldMaid if she keeps it up. These days (given how being older and single isn't the worst thing in the world, the awareness over about stalking and respecting boundaries especially those of women) if Mrs. Paroo were to say and do something that similar she'd be TooDumbToLive at best and a EvilMatriarch at worst.
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** While she's long since proven her musical theatre chops Sutton Foster being chosen to play Marian Paroo opposite Creator/HughJackman's Harold Hill raised a few eyebrows. The reason for this being that Marian is a classical soprano, a sound that can't truly be replicated by a Mezzo like Foster. The actress herself even admitted she never dreamed of playing the part because of the difference in voice type. Unlike most examples of this trope though, the general reaction to her casting was positive, even if there were people naming sopranos that could've done it without lowered keys. ''Because'' she is Sutton Foster, though, most people seem willing to at least give her a chance.

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** While she's long since proven her musical theatre chops chops, Sutton Foster being chosen to play Marian Paroo opposite Creator/HughJackman's Harold Hill raised a few eyebrows. The reason for this being that Marian is a classical soprano, a sound that can't truly be replicated by a Mezzo mezzo like Foster. The actress herself even admitted she never dreamed of playing the part because of the difference in voice type. Unlike Surprisingly enough, unlike most examples of this trope though, trope, the general reaction to her the casting was positive, even if there were people naming sopranos that besides Foster who could've done it played Marian without lowered keys. ''Because'' she is Sutton Foster, though, most people seem willing to at least give her a chance.
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* DesignatedHero: Zigzagged with Harold Hill. While his charm and good deeds are genuine, Hill is a conman who goes from town to town convincing the citizens that they are in trouble and the only way to get out of it is to form their kids into a band with himself as the leader. He then sells them instruments, uniforms and instruction books, but he doesn't actually know anything about music and skips town with their money.

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* DesignatedHero: Zigzagged Downplayed with Harold Hill. While his charm and good deeds are genuine, Hill is a conman who goes from town to town convincing the citizens that they are in trouble and the only way to get out of it is to form their kids into a band with himself as the leader. He then sells them instruments, uniforms and instruction books, but he doesn't actually know anything about music and skips town with their money.
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* DesignatedHero: While his charm and good deeds are genuine, Hill is a conman who goes from town to town convincing the citizens that they are in trouble and the only way to get out of it is to form their kids into a band with himself as the leader. He then sells them instruments, uniforms and instruction books, but he doesn't actually know anything about music and skips town with their money.

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* DesignatedHero: Zigzagged with Harold Hill. While his charm and good deeds are genuine, Hill is a conman who goes from town to town convincing the citizens that they are in trouble and the only way to get out of it is to form their kids into a band with himself as the leader. He then sells them instruments, uniforms and instruction books, but he doesn't actually know anything about music and skips town with their money.

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