History YMMV / TheMoomins

24th Jul '16 6:10:59 AM WhatArtThee
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Uniquely, the Moomins fit this trope and WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids. The later books in the series ''aren't'' really children's books (something which Tove Jansson herself acknowledged), touching on a lot of themes that kids won't understand. The newspaper comic, while less dark, contains a lot of satire directed primarily at adults: The Moomins' bohemian lifestyle is often mocked, with the characters played for fools in a lot of subtle ways, but other, more "normal" lifestyles are frequently held up for examination and found to be even more foolish. At the same time, earlier books and works which ''are'' primarily directed at children, contain some pretty dark undertones and subtle adult humor. The '90s animated series and its spin-offs are more clearly aimed at children (though even there the undertones aren't completely gone AND The Groke is still there), which is the main reason why so many older Moomin fans don't like it.
8th Dec '15 2:34:53 PM LE0Night
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* FandomBerserkButton: Refer to the Moomins as "hippos" and you'll find yourself instantly marked for death by the Finnish government.

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* FandomBerserkButton: Refer to the Moomins as "hippos" and you'll find yourself instantly marked for death by the Finnish government.
8th Dec '15 2:28:42 PM LE0Night
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* FandomBerserkButton: Refer to the Moomins as "hippos" and you'll find yourself instantly marked for death by the Finnish government.



* FandomBerserkButton: Refer to the Moomins as "hippos" and you'll find yourself instantly marked for death by the Finnish government.
8th Dec '15 2:28:20 PM LE0Night
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* FandomBerserkButton: Refer to the Moomins as "hippos" and you'll find yourself instantly marked for death by the Finnish government.
1st Dec '15 8:49:53 AM PurrElise
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* MemeticMutation: '''EVERYONE''' in Scandinavia and Poland is afraid of the Groke, no exceptions. The show was immensely popular, and everyone of the generation that watched the 90's animated series remembers that freaking thing. It was one of the ONLY times in Scandinavia that a show was pulled off the air (for a time) because parents called and complained about it being too scary. That almost never happens there.

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* MemeticMutation: '''EVERYONE''' in Scandinavia and Poland is afraid of the Groke, no exceptions. The show was immensely popular, and everyone of the generation that watched the 90's animated series remembers that freaking thing. It was one of the ONLY only times in Scandinavia that a show was pulled off the air (for a time) because parents called and complained about it being too scary. That almost never happens there.
1st Dec '15 8:48:34 AM PurrElise
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* MemeticMutation: EVERYONE in Scandinavia and Poland are afraid of the Groke. No exceptions. The show was IMMENSELY popular, and everyone of the generation that watched the 90's animated series remembers that freaking thing. It was one of the ONLY times in Scandinavia that a show was pulled off the air (for a time) because parents called and complained about it being too scary. That almost never happens there.

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* MemeticMutation: EVERYONE '''EVERYONE''' in Scandinavia and Poland are is afraid of the Groke. No Groke, no exceptions. The show was IMMENSELY immensely popular, and everyone of the generation that watched the 90's animated series remembers that freaking thing. It was one of the ONLY times in Scandinavia that a show was pulled off the air (for a time) because parents called and complained about it being too scary. That almost never happens there.
28th Nov '15 11:08:15 AM erforce
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* BrokenBase: It's not volatile, unlike 99% of the internet, but Moomin fans can't seem to decide which foreign dub of the series is best. English? Finnish? Polish? French?
** Also, whether the heavily Bowdlerized anime series is an acceptable adaptation at all. Especially older fans (i.e. the parents of the generation who saw the series in the 90's) seems to be more hostile towards it.

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* BrokenBase: BrokenBase:
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It's not volatile, unlike 99% of the internet, but Moomin fans can't seem to decide which foreign dub of the series is best. English? Finnish? Polish? French?
** Also, whether Whether the heavily Bowdlerized anime series is an acceptable adaptation at all. Especially older fans (i.e. the parents of the generation who saw the series in the 90's) seems to be more hostile towards it.
28th Nov '15 11:07:50 AM erforce
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: The Groke saving Little My from the burning forest in one episode.
** The Hobgoblin saving Little My from falling to her death in another episode
** The Witch saving Little My from getting eaten by a giant fish in ANOTHER episode.
** When Snork finally managed to get his second airship airborne for the first time. He had been working on it for the entirety of the show, it was so satisfying to finally see him fulfilling his dream.



* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: For a Finnish franchise, the Moomins are extremely popular in Japan.

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff:
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For a Finnish franchise, the Moomins are extremely popular in Japan.



* NightmareFuel: The Groke was this to any child who ever watched the show. Especially in Finland, Poland, France and Japan, where she has the most terrifying voices. Also, making her mute in the English dub is creepy, too. It was greatly helped by the build-up and suspense in her introduction episode, along with the horrifying music that played throughout her scenes.
** [[http://i.imgur.com/IIetIvl.gif This]] Moomin's NightmareSequence scene in her second episode is even more scary - he tries to run away from her, but is too slow and gets caught.
** The Lady of the Cold, with her creepy singing and ability to freeze people where they stand.
*** She's worse in the book. Anyone frozen by her dies instantly, they can't just be thawed up again like in the anime.
** Don't forget that purple abomination Moomin turns into when he's transformed by that purple hat in the first episode! God, the fact that Moomin's voice is in tact as he transforms makes it all the more unsettling to look at AND listen to!
** The Hattifatteners are also creepy, they always travel in large groups and doesn't seem dangerous at first; however they are terryfying when they get angry and when the electrify themselves, which makes them dangerous to get close.
* ViewerGenderConfusion: [[http://syko.typepad.com/.a/6a010536bfff2d970c012875f7273a970c-pi Too-Ticky]] and the Groke. You wouldn't know they were female simply by looking at them.

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* NightmareFuel: The Groke was this to any child who ever watched the show. Especially in Finland, Poland, France and Japan, where she has the most terrifying voices. Also, making her mute in the English dub is creepy, too. It was greatly helped by the build-up and suspense in her introduction episode, along with the horrifying music that played throughout her scenes.
ViewerGenderConfusion:
** [[http://i.imgur.com/IIetIvl.gif This]] Moomin's NightmareSequence scene in her second episode is even more scary - he tries to run away from her, but is too slow and gets caught.
** The Lady of the Cold, with her creepy singing and ability to freeze people where they stand.
*** She's worse in the book. Anyone frozen by her dies instantly, they can't just be thawed up again like in the anime.
** Don't forget that purple abomination Moomin turns into when he's transformed by that purple hat in the first episode! God, the fact that Moomin's voice is in tact as he transforms makes it all the more unsettling to look at AND listen to!
** The Hattifatteners are also creepy, they always travel in large groups and doesn't seem dangerous at first; however they are terryfying when they get angry and when the electrify themselves, which makes them dangerous to get close.
* ViewerGenderConfusion:
[[http://syko.typepad.com/.a/6a010536bfff2d970c012875f7273a970c-pi Too-Ticky]] and the Groke. You wouldn't know they were female simply by looking at them.



* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids / WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Uniquely, the Moomins fit ''both'' tropes. The later books in the series ''aren't'' really children's books (something which Tove Jansson herself acknowledged), touching on a lot of themes that kids won't understand. The newspaper comic, while less dark, contains a lot of satire directed primarily at adults: The Moomins' bohemian lifestyle is often mocked, with the characters played for fools in a lot of subtle ways, but other, more "normal" lifestyles are frequently held up for examination and found to be even more foolish. At the same time, earlier books and works which ''are'' primarily directed at children, contain some pretty dark undertones and subtle adult humor. The '90s animated series and its spin-offs are more clearly aimed at children (though even there the undertones aren't completely gone AND The Groke is still there), which is the main reason why so many older Moomin fans don't like it.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids / WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Uniquely, the Moomins fit ''both'' tropes.this trope and WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids. The later books in the series ''aren't'' really children's books (something which Tove Jansson herself acknowledged), touching on a lot of themes that kids won't understand. The newspaper comic, while less dark, contains a lot of satire directed primarily at adults: The Moomins' bohemian lifestyle is often mocked, with the characters played for fools in a lot of subtle ways, but other, more "normal" lifestyles are frequently held up for examination and found to be even more foolish. At the same time, earlier books and works which ''are'' primarily directed at children, contain some pretty dark undertones and subtle adult humor. The '90s animated series and its spin-offs are more clearly aimed at children (though even there the undertones aren't completely gone AND The Groke is still there), which is the main reason why so many older Moomin fans don't like it.



* TheWoobie: The Groke especially gets this treatment in the last books.

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The Groke especially gets this treatment in the last books.
18th Oct '15 7:21:10 AM CrayonKiddo
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** [[http://i.imgur.com/IIetIvl.gif This]] Moomin's NightmareSequence scene in her second episode is even more scary - he tries to run away from her, but is too slow and gets caught.
24th Jan '15 4:15:28 PM Prfnoff
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* HilariousInHindsight: In one episode, Snork Maiden (known as Floren in Japan) develops psychic powers and has visions of the future. About six years later, her seiyuu, MikaKanai, would go on to play [[Anime/AfterWarGundamX another such character.]]

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* HilariousInHindsight: In one episode, Snork Maiden (known as Floren in Japan) develops psychic powers and has visions of the future. About six years later, her seiyuu, MikaKanai, Creator/MikaKanai, would go on to play [[Anime/AfterWarGundamX another such character.]]
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