History YMMV / TheMagicians

21st Dec '15 5:12:47 PM Silverblade2
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* JerkassWoobie: Quentin drifts strongly towards assholish behavior in some chapters, but he remains consistently pitiable because a lot of the assholish behavior is rooted in his own psychological issues.



* StoicWoobie: Elliot, as Quentin comes to discern, has a very hard-won outward coolness.



** JerkassWoobie: Quentin drifts strongly towards assholish behavior in some chapters, but he remains consistently pitiable because a lot of the assholish behavior is rooted in his own psychological issues.
** StoicWoobie: Elliot, as Quentin comes to discern, has a very hard-won outward coolness.

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** JerkassWoobie: Quentin drifts strongly towards assholish behavior in some chapters, but he remains consistently pitiable because a lot of the assholish behavior is rooted in his own psychological issues.
** StoicWoobie: Elliot, as Quentin comes to discern, has a very hard-won outward coolness.
9th Dec '15 8:31:37 PM fillory
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: At the end of the Brakebill welters tournament, Quentin experiences a revelation about things that don't matter, throws the match, picks Alice up, and jumps with her into a pool of water of unknown depth. None of this is ever mentioned again.
* CompleteMonster: [[Literature/ReynardTheFox Raynard The Fox]] from ''The Magician King'' is a hulking mass of muscle, red fur and sharp teeth, summoned by a sect of magicians who believe they are calling upon a benevolent goddess. When summoned, Raynard promptly proceeds to take the "sacrifices" he sees as his. Setting upon the magicians, Raynard kills many of them horribly and painful, mortally wounding one and sneering over the young man's dying attempt to offer himself to let the final two live. When one promises her life in exchange for the other's, Raynard [[ExactWords chooses to interpret it in a dark way]]: he promptly brutally rapes her in front of her friend and tears her humanity out when finished.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: At the end of the Brakebill Brakebills welters tournament, Quentin experiences a revelation about things that don't matter, throws the match, picks Alice up, and jumps with her into a pool of water of unknown depth. None of this is ever mentioned again.
* CompleteMonster: [[Literature/ReynardTheFox Raynard The Reynard the Fox]] from ''The Magician King'' is a hulking mass of muscle, red fur and sharp teeth, summoned by a sect of magicians who believe they are calling upon a benevolent goddess. When summoned, Raynard Reynard promptly proceeds to take the "sacrifices" he sees as his. Setting upon the magicians, Raynard Reynard kills many of them horribly and painful, painfully, mortally wounding one and sneering over the young man's dying attempt to offer himself to let the final two live. When one promises her life in exchange for the other's, Raynard Reynard [[ExactWords chooses to interpret it in a dark way]]: he promptly brutally rapes her in front of her friend and tears her humanity out when finished.



* NightmareFuel: When time stops still in the middle of class and The Beast appears, though they can't move, everyone is still aware of what's happening, which means that Amanda Orloff was perfectly conscious the entire time she was being eaten alive ''one bite at a time'', and probably a few people had no choice but to watch it all. The Beast counts as this in general.

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* NightmareFuel: When time stops still in the middle of class and The the Beast appears, though they can't move, everyone is still aware of what's happening, which means that Amanda Orloff was perfectly conscious the entire time she was being eaten alive ''one bite at a time'', and probably a few people had no choice but to watch it all. The Beast counts as this in general.
21st Nov '15 1:34:55 PM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: Literature/ReynardTheFox from ''The Magician King'' is a hulking mass of muscle, red fur and sharp teeth, summoned by a sect of magicians who believe they are calling upon a benevolent goddess. When summoned, Raynard promptly proceeds to take the "sacrifices" he sees as his. Setting upon the magicians, Raynard kills many of them horribly and painful, mortally wounding one and sneering over the young man's dying attempt to offer himself to let the final two live. When one promises her life in exchange for the other's, Raynard [[ExactWords chooses to interpret it in a dark way]]: he promptly brutally rapes her in front of her friend and tears her humanity out when finished.

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* CompleteMonster: Literature/ReynardTheFox [[Literature/ReynardTheFox Raynard The Fox]] from ''The Magician King'' is a hulking mass of muscle, red fur and sharp teeth, summoned by a sect of magicians who believe they are calling upon a benevolent goddess. When summoned, Raynard promptly proceeds to take the "sacrifices" he sees as his. Setting upon the magicians, Raynard kills many of them horribly and painful, mortally wounding one and sneering over the young man's dying attempt to offer himself to let the final two live. When one promises her life in exchange for the other's, Raynard [[ExactWords chooses to interpret it in a dark way]]: he promptly brutally rapes her in front of her friend and tears her humanity out when finished.
21st Nov '15 1:04:31 AM ACW
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21st Nov '15 1:04:27 AM ACW
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*CompleteMonster: Literature/ReynardTheFox from ''The Magician King'' is a hulking mass of muscle, red fur and sharp teeth, summoned by a sect of magicians who believe they are calling upon a benevolent goddess. When summoned, Raynard promptly proceeds to take the "sacrifices" he sees as his. Setting upon the magicians, Raynard kills many of them horribly and painful, mortally wounding one and sneering over the young man's dying attempt to offer himself to let the final two live. When one promises her life in exchange for the other's, Raynard [[ExactWords chooses to interpret it in a dark way]]: he promptly brutally rapes her in front of her friend and tears her humanity out when finished.
28th Oct '15 9:11:46 PM Ravok
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: Martin Chatwin, who's prepared to murder, mutilate, torture and consume his enemies just to keep his stranglehold on Fillory. And these "enemies" are almost entirely helpless- especially Professor March's class, who remained frozen in time while awake and conscious just because Martin felt like screwing with them. And when one of them dares fight back, he eats her alive. ]]
** [[spoiler: Reynard the Fox in the sequel. He casually murders a room full of people then rapes the heroine as her friend watches on helplessly.]]
29th Jan '15 3:40:49 PM Sabo88
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** FromBadToWorse: At the end of the first book, Quentin finally gets a solid reason to be a woobie and suffers an extended HeroicBSOD after [[spoiler:Alice dies fighting the Beast]]. Qualifies as a Tearjerker as she is gone before he can tell her what he's realized - [[spoiler: that he really loves her]].

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** FromBadToWorse: At the end of the first book, Quentin finally gets a solid reason to be a woobie and suffers an extended HeroicBSOD after [[spoiler:Alice dies fighting the Beast]]. Qualifies as a Tearjerker as she is gone before he can tell her what he's realized - [[spoiler: that he really loves her]].
29th Jan '15 3:37:57 PM Sabo88
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: One of the major themes of the series seems to be that human beings are not psychologically prepared to deal with a world in which magic is real.

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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: One of the major themes of the series seems to be that human beings are not psychologically prepared to deal with a world in which magic is real. May cross into FantasticAesop.
15th Nov '14 6:58:06 AM MagBas
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* UnfortunateImplications: Apparently, [[spoiler: getting very physically, very brutally raped by a ten-foot fox-deity on the much darker side of the TricksterArchetype spectrum is one way of gaining the power to turn into a beautiful, otherworldly demi-goddess.]]

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* UnfortunateImplications: Apparently, [[spoiler: getting very physically, very brutally raped by a ten-foot fox-deity on the much darker side of the TricksterArchetype spectrum is one way of gaining the power to turn into a beautiful, otherworldly demi-goddess.]]
14th Aug '14 9:55:22 AM AFallenPieceOfPaper
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* AuthorTract: Grossman's atheist views and apparent distaste for Christianity tend to bleed into the characters' opinions rather glaringly, particularly in ''The Magician King''.

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* AuthorTract: Grossman's atheist views and apparent distaste for Christianity tend to [[OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions bleed into the characters' opinions opinions]] rather glaringly, particularly in ''The Magician King''.
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