History YMMV / TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime

5th Dec '16 9:09:54 AM bowserbros
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* ContestedSequel: While widely considered the greatest video game of all time, let alone the best ''Zelda'' game, there are a few fans who prefer ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast'' over ''Ocarina of Time'' and find that ''Ocarina'' merely refines/rehashes elements from ''[=ALttP=]'' rather than coming up with innovations on its own.

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* ContestedSequel: While widely considered the greatest ''the greatest'' video game of all time, time (to the point of it topping more "best game" lists than any other game), let alone the best ''Zelda'' game, there are a few fans who prefer ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast'' over ''Ocarina of Time'' and find that ''Ocarina'' merely refines/rehashes elements from ''[=ALttP=]'' rather than coming up with innovations on its own.



* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: Those who expected [[AdaptationExpansion more changes and additions to the main game]], just like Creator/{{Nintendo}} did with ''VideoGame/SuperMario64 DS'' and Game Freak with ''[[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver]]'', were a bit disappointed with the UsefulNotes/Nintendo3DS remake, even with the inclusion of the ''Master Quest'' mode.

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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: Those who expected [[AdaptationExpansion more changes and additions to the main game]], just like Creator/{{Nintendo}} did with ''VideoGame/SuperMario64 DS'' and Game Freak with ''[[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver]]'', were a bit disappointed with the UsefulNotes/Nintendo3DS remake, even with the fixing of [[ThatOneLevel the Water Temple]] and the inclusion of the ''Master Quest'' mode.



* MemeticMutation: "Hey! Listen!" [[labelnote:Explanation]]Navi's cry when she has a hint or tip is often used in relation to anything or anyone that is being annoying, particularly in video games.[[/labelnote]]

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"Hey! Listen!" [[labelnote:Explanation]]Navi's cry when she has a hint or tip is often used in relation to anything or anyone that is being annoying, particularly in video games.[[/labelnote]]
** Did you get all that? >No Yes[[labelnote:Explanation]]Kaepora Gaebora is infamous for his copiously long dialogue whenever he appears (which often comes rather suddenly). Combine that with the fact that the ''default'' option after his dialogue finishes is making him repeat everything he just said, and Kaepora Gaebora becomes an AnnoyingVideoGameHelper that could easily rival Navi.
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** The various rereleases. So far there have been five. Two for the UsefulNotes/NintendoGameCube that were actually ''free'' promotional disks[[note]]One was given out as a bonus to those who pre-ordered ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker'' and also included Master Quest, and the other was part of a ''Zelda'' CompilationRerelease bundled with new Gamecubes.[[/note]] that weren't available outside of said promotions. One for the Virtual Console on the Wii, which was its first generally available release since the [=N64=] original. The remake for Nintendo3DS, which came 5 years after the Virtual Console version and 13 years after the original game. And the UsefulNotes/WiiU UsefulNotes/VirtualConsole rerelease 4 years later. However, some people make it look like Nintendo rereleases the game almost every year for an easy cash grab.

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** The various rereleases. re-releases. So far there have been five.'''five'''. Two for the UsefulNotes/NintendoGameCube that were actually ''free'' promotional disks[[note]]One was given out as a bonus to those who pre-ordered ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker'' and also included Master Quest, and the other was part of a ''Zelda'' CompilationRerelease bundled with new Gamecubes.[[/note]] that weren't available outside of said promotions. One for the Virtual Console on the Wii, which was its first generally available release since the [=N64=] original. The remake for Nintendo3DS, which came 5 years after the Virtual Console version and 13 years after the original game. And the UsefulNotes/WiiU UsefulNotes/VirtualConsole rerelease 4 years later. However, some people make it look like Nintendo rereleases the game almost every year for an easy cash grab.



* SequelDisplacement: Many started the series with this one. It even lead ''[[Videogame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Majora's Mask]]'' to be called "Zelda 2" by a few back in the early 2000s. ([[FandomBerserkButton It is recommended that this be not said in public]]). This got to the point where [[http://www.nintendo.com/amiibo/detail/uGl0hG94ce1DmOGDynhG-mua87dciiAM Nintendo's official description]] for the Ganondorf Toys/{{amiibo}} describes his role in this game, even though the figure is based on his ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Twilight Princess]]'' appearance.

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* SequelDisplacement: Many started the series with this one. It even lead ''[[Videogame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Majora's Mask]]'' to be called "Zelda 2" by a few back in the early 2000s. ([[FandomBerserkButton It is recommended that this be not said in public]]). public.]]) This got to the point where [[http://www.nintendo.com/amiibo/detail/uGl0hG94ce1DmOGDynhG-mua87dciiAM Nintendo's official description]] for the Ganondorf Toys/{{amiibo}} describes his role in this game, even though the figure is based on his ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Twilight Princess]]'' appearance.



** Rather embarrasingly, they also didn't bother to update the flat ramp staircases.
* SoCoolItsAwesome: Released in 1998. Countless games released, including 10 more in the Zelda series. Still one of the most popular and respected games ''ever'', to the point that ''a remake'' can still be a KillerApp for a console.
* {{Squick}}: More than a few people have seen the Great Fairies' skimpy attire not as leaves but as [[NightmareFuel their bodies rotting.]] Made worse in the remake where the leaves were replaced with leopard print bikinis... that look like a skin disorder.

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** Rather embarrasingly, embarrassingly, they also didn't bother to update the flat ramp staircases.
* SoCoolItsAwesome: Released in 1998. Countless games released, including 10 more in the Zelda series. Still one of the most popular and respected games ''ever'', ''ever'' (even considered the best game of all time by a good chunk of people), to the point that ''a remake'' can still be a KillerApp for a console.
* {{Squick}}: {{Squick}}:
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More than a few people have seen the Great Fairies' skimpy attire not as leaves but as [[NightmareFuel their bodies rotting.]] Made worse in the remake where the leaves were replaced with leopard print bikinis... that look like a skin disorder.disorder.
** The Great Fairies' heavy amounts of makeup and creepy laugh also unnerve quite a few people.



* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Mass graves, death, war, [[EldritchAbomination hideous monsters, a giant monster collapsing into a heap of pulsating flesh before your very eyes]], [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking green blood]] (and a little red blood). You know, for kids! At least the 3DS remake got an E10+ rating from the ESRB (the E10+ rating was not around when the game originally released on the N64), which is roughly equivalent to a PG rating for films. Much more accurate to the game's content than the N64 version's E rating, which is basically the equivalent to a G rating.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Mass graves, death, war, [[EldritchAbomination hideous monsters, a giant monster collapsing into a heap of pulsating flesh before your very eyes]], [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking green blood]] (and a little red blood). You know, for kids! At least the 3DS remake got an E10+ rating from the ESRB (the E10+ rating was not around when the game originally released on the N64), which is roughly equivalent to a PG rating for films. Much more accurate to the game's content than the N64 version's E rating, which is basically the equivalent to a modern-day G rating.
10th Nov '16 7:25:50 AM WaxingName
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--> "Hey, you that mask is some good, quality wood there, kid!"

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--> "Hey, you that mask is some good, quality wood there, kid!"
10th Nov '16 7:23:15 AM WaxingName
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** This line was actually altered in the 3DS remaster to:
--> "Hey, you that mask is some good, quality wood there, kid!"
10th Nov '16 7:01:23 AM WaxingName
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-->'''Carpenter Boss:''': "Hey, you have some good, quality wood there, kid!"

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-->'''Carpenter Boss:''': Boss:''' "Hey, you have some good, quality wood there, kid!"
10th Nov '16 7:01:12 AM WaxingName
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* AccidentalInnuendo: A [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB7g1alvDn8&t=278 somewhat infamous line]] in the Spirit Temple:

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* AccidentalInnuendo: AccidentalInnuendo:
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A [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB7g1alvDn8&t=278 somewhat infamous certain line]] in the Spirit Temple:


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** Another line in Kakariko Village. [[spoiler:He says this when you're wearing the Spooky Mask.]]
-->'''Carpenter Boss:''': "Hey, you have some good, quality wood there, kid!"
26th Oct '16 5:23:07 AM kraas
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** One other reason why this game had such an impact with the franchise is that it was a major change-up to the series' Status Quo. Think about it: This game has both a Child and Young Adult Link, Impa is no longer a frail little old lady but a somewhat younger and muscular, Ganon is no longer a big blue pig but a tall buff somewhat Middle Eastern Man (most of the time; he does become a PigMan when the plot calls for it but he's much more beast-like than earlier incarnations) and Zelda actually gets to be involved in the action [[spoiler:granted, when she is disguised as someone else but still]]. When Ocarina first came out it was a fairly substantial departure from what the Legend of Zelda series is like at the time. But nowadays people often like to complain that Ocarina of Time became the series' new Status Quo and that most of the 3-D Zelda games [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks are not different enough from Ocarina]].

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** One other reason why this game had such an impact with the franchise is that it was a major change-up to the series' Status Quo. Think about it: This game has both a Child and Young Adult Link, Impa is no longer a frail little old lady but a somewhat younger and muscular, Ganon is no longer a big blue pig but a tall buff somewhat Middle Eastern Man (most of the time; he does become a PigMan when the plot calls for it but he's much more beast-like than earlier incarnations) and Zelda actually gets to be involved in the action [[spoiler:granted, it's usually when she is disguised as someone else but still]]. When Ocarina first came out it was a fairly substantial departure from what the Legend of Zelda series is like at the time. But nowadays people often like to complain that Ocarina of Time became the series' new Status Quo and that most of the 3-D Zelda games [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks are not different enough from Ocarina]].
18th Oct '16 7:36:26 AM MyFinalEdits
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** In the 3DS remake its surprisingly ''easy'' to enter Lord Jabu-Jabu as an adult. So easy, it humorously implies [[OnlyMostlyDead he wasn't killed or frozen, just hiding in plain sight]]. Compare with the original N64 source-code where said glitch was almost impossible to pull off.
** In the two TennisBoss segments, you can swing a bottle instead of using your sword. It isn't any more useful than the sword, but it's amusing to do.
* HarsherInHindsight:
** Getting a GameOver against Ganon can become this thanks to the release of the official timeline, in which the timeline leading to ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast A Link to the Past]]'' involves Ganon defeating Link.

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** In the 3DS remake its remake, it's surprisingly ''easy'' to enter Lord Jabu-Jabu as an adult. So easy, it humorously implies [[OnlyMostlyDead he wasn't killed or frozen, just hiding in plain sight]]. Compare with the original N64 source-code where said glitch was almost impossible to pull off.
** In the two TennisBoss segments, you can swing a bottle instead of using your sword. It isn't any more useful than the sword, but it's amusing to do.
do. By the time of ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker The Wind Waker]]'''s release, it became a purposely present feature in the series.
* HarsherInHindsight:
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HarsherInHindsight: Getting a GameOver against Ganon can become this thanks to the release of the official timeline, in which the timeline leading to ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast A Link to the Past]]'' involves Ganon defeating Link.



** For those wishing to get 100%, the fishing hole. Up for grabs, a Heart Piece (as a child) and the Gold Scale (as an adult). The only thing standing in your way? Actually catching a fish, which is made all the more difficult since A: It's a LuckBasedMission even getting one on the line, B: There's no way to tell ahead of time how much a fish weighs (you need one that weighs 10 pounds for the Heart Piece and one that weighs 15 pounds or more for the Gold Scale respectively), C: it takes a ludicrously long time to actually reel them in once you do get them on the line, and, best of all, D: sometimes, for no explained reason, the fish will just randomly get away.
*** Not only that, but the Gold Scale is actually required to receive another Heart Piece (from Dr. Mizumi at the Lakeside Laboratory, where you have to dive to the bottom of his measuring pool which is about nine meters).

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** For those wishing to get 100%, the fishing hole. Up for grabs, a Heart Piece (as a child) and the Gold Scale (as an adult). The only thing standing in your way? Actually catching a fish, which is made all the more difficult since A: It's a LuckBasedMission even getting one on the line, B: There's no way to tell ahead of time how much a fish weighs (you need one that weighs 10 pounds for the Heart Piece and one that weighs 15 pounds or more for the Gold Scale respectively), C: it takes a ludicrously long time to actually reel them in once you do get them on the line, and, best of all, D: sometimes, for no explained reason, the fish will just randomly get away.
*** Not only that, but
away. And the Gold Scale is actually required to receive another Heart Piece (from Dr. Mizumi at the Lakeside Laboratory, where you have to dive to the bottom of his measuring pool which is about nine meters).
17th Oct '16 11:59:52 PM LucaEarlgrey
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** In the two TennisBoss segments, you can swing a bottle instead of using your sword. It isn't any more useful than the sword, but it's amusing to do.
24th Sep '16 8:10:43 PM MyFinalEdits
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* IronWoobie: Link. On the one hand, he goes through enough crap to potentially drive him insane in terms of issues. On the other hand, being the [[AudienceSurrogate Player Surrogate]] and a HeroicMime, he [[AngstWhatAngst doesn't seem too concerned with this.]]

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* IronWoobie: IronWoobie:
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Link. On the one hand, he goes through enough crap to potentially drive him insane in terms of issues. On the other hand, being the [[AudienceSurrogate Player Surrogate]] and a HeroicMime, he [[AngstWhatAngst doesn't seem too concerned with this.]]
24th Sep '16 6:58:00 PM TheLuckyCat
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** Zelda herself. Her [[MissingMom mother is never mentioned and is presumably dead]], then she has a prophetic dream that entails evil overtaking the land. When she tries to warn her father about Ganondorf, he doesn't heed her advice. Then her father is murdered in front of her and she has to flee from her own castle with Impa, and gets separated from Link and everyone she ever knew for seven years, while a murderous evil sorcerer is constantly on the hunt for her.
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