History YMMV / TheLegendOfZeldaCDIGames

15th Apr '17 7:10:40 AM Prinzenick
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** Link's "I'm so hungry, I could eat an Octorok," line is even more hilarious in light of the fact that in ''TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'', Link can cook the body parts of dead Octoroks to use in elixirs. However, attempting to cook only Octorok parts together to make a whole Octorok will get you Dubious Food.
9th Apr '17 1:11:50 PM Silverblade2
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* {{Asspull}}: At the end of ''Wand of Gamelon'', Link turns out to be have been trapped in Alma's mirror with no explanation whatsoever.
2nd Mar '17 7:51:01 AM technickal
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* HamAndCheese: Mark Berry's gloriously hammy performances of King Harkinian and Ganon definitely made the mediocre cutscenes easier to sit through.
26th Feb '17 1:31:47 PM MagBas
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* SoBadItsHorrible: On the other hand, one can indeed make the case that the games are as terrible as some might claim - for example, the WebVideo/GameGrumps playthroughs of the sidescrolling games are video-documented examples of two fairly competent retro gamers being driven ''absolutely crazy'' by inexcusable flaws such as HitboxDissonance, level designs that are often difficult to tell which areas are solid ground and which aren't, unfair enemy spawns... The list goes on. They have a proper controller for ''Link: The Faces of Evil'' and they ''still'' consider the game to be near-unplayable.



* UnfortunateImplications: An unintentional example. Militron calls one of his victims a "Worthless Koridian." Due to how compressed the audio is though, it instead sounds like he's saying "Korean." [[YouTubePoop YoutubePoops]] lampshade it a lot.
24th Feb '17 2:05:17 PM rjd1922
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* CriticalBacklash: [[http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/zeldacdi/zeldacdi.htm Some of the people]] who have actually played the games contend that that they aren't as bad as they're made out to be. They say that the poorly-animated cut scenes distract from the OK gameplay, and that they're actually some of the better titles for the CD-i. That may count as being DamnedByFaintPraise, however.

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* CriticalBacklash: [[http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/zeldacdi/zeldacdi.htm Some of the people]] who have actually played the games contend that that they aren't as bad as they're made out to be. They say that the poorly-animated cut scenes distract from the OK gameplay, and that they're actually some of the better titles for the CD-i. That Considering the average quality of CD-i games, though, [[DamnedByFaintPraise that may count as being DamnedByFaintPraise, however.not be saying much]].
14th Feb '17 12:11:22 AM Cronosonic
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* SoOkayItsAverage: The gameplay, meanwhile, was handled a fair bit more competently, but not so much as to make the games must-play titles nowadays. What's more, accurate CD-i emulation is notoriously difficult, and CD-i consoles & physical copies of the games themselves can go for up to a few hundred bucks on auction sites, meaning even ''Zelda'' fans who would otherwise be willing to give the CD-i games a chance consider them more trouble than they're worth to actually track down and play. Despite Website/HardcoreGaming101's spirited defense of the games, the sad reality is that few people want to spend $300+ to play something that's only "not as bad as everyone keeps saying".\\\

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* SoOkayItsAverage: The gameplay, meanwhile, was is considered to be handled a fair bit more competently, competently by some, but not so much as to make the games must-play titles nowadays. What's more, accurate CD-i emulation is notoriously difficult, and CD-i consoles & physical copies of the games themselves can go for up to a few hundred bucks on auction sites, meaning even ''Zelda'' fans who would otherwise be willing to give the CD-i games a chance consider them more trouble than they're worth to actually track down and play. Despite Website/HardcoreGaming101's spirited defense of the games, the sad reality is that few people want to spend $300+ to play something that's only "not as bad as everyone keeps saying".\\\


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* SoBadItsHorrible: On the other hand, one can indeed make the case that the games are as terrible as some might claim - for example, the WebVideo/GameGrumps playthroughs of the sidescrolling games are video-documented examples of two fairly competent retro gamers being driven ''absolutely crazy'' by inexcusable flaws such as HitboxDissonance, level designs that are often difficult to tell which areas are solid ground and which aren't, unfair enemy spawns... The list goes on. They have a proper controller for ''Link: The Faces of Evil'' and they ''still'' consider the game to be near-unplayable.
7th Feb '17 11:47:33 PM Sammettik
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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: ''Zelda's Adventure'' had some [[http://www.nintendoplayer.com/interview/zeldas-adventure-jason-bakutis/ pretty good minature model and prosthetic work]], with special mention to the [[http://sputnikgames.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/mark-andrade-gaspra-2.jpg.jpg Gaspra costume]] worn by someone who was ''23''. [[SubvertedTrope Unfortunately]], the amount of compression the graphics required resulted in most of this work looking significantly worse in the final game.

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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: ''Zelda's Adventure'' had some [[http://www.nintendoplayer.com/interview/zeldas-adventure-jason-bakutis/ pretty good minature model and prosthetic work]], with special mention to the [[http://sputnikgames.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/mark-andrade-gaspra-2.jpg.jpg Gaspra costume]] costume worn by someone who was ''23''. [[SubvertedTrope Unfortunately]], the amount of compression the graphics required resulted in most of this work looking significantly worse in the final game.
6th Feb '17 2:28:14 PM Gosicrystal
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-->'''Militron:''' "'You must be hardened with fire!''
-->'''Hectan:''' ''YES, Master...''
** And mostly thanks to WebAnimation/YoutubePoop:

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-->'''Militron:''' "'You **
--->'''Militron:''' You
must be hardened with fire!''
-->'''Hectan:''' ''YES, Master...''
fire!
--->'''Hectan:''' YES, Master...
** And mostly Mostly thanks to WebAnimation/YoutubePoop:



** Link gives us this gem.

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** Link gives us this gem.gem:



* AngstWhatAngst: During ''Wand of Gamelon'':
-->'''Impa:''' ''"Oh, my! Your father has been captured!"''
-->'''Zelda:''' ''"...What about Link?"''
** Justified as the Triforce of Wisdom promises The King will safely return.
** Also:
-->'''Ganon:''' ''"You are my prisoner!"''
-->'''Fari:''' ''"Hey!"''

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* AngstWhatAngst: During ''Wand of Gamelon'':
-->'''Impa:''' ''"Oh, my! Your father has been captured!"''
-->'''Zelda:''' ''"...What about Link?"''
** Justified
Gamelon'' (although justified as the Triforce of Wisdom promises The King will safely return.
** Also:
-->'''Ganon:''' ''"You
return):
-->'''Impa:''' Oh, my! Your father has been captured!
-->'''Zelda:''' ...What about Link?
%% **
%% --->'''Ganon:''' You
are my prisoner!"''
-->'''Fari:''' ''"Hey!"''
prisoner!
%% --->'''Fari:''' Hey!



* CriticalBacklash: [[http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/zeldacdi/zeldacdi.htm Some of the people]] who have actually played the games contend that that they aren't as bad as they're made out to be. They say that the poorly-animated cut scenes distract from the OK gameplay, and that they're actually some of the better titles for the CD-i.
** That may count as being DamnedByFaintPraise, however.

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* CriticalBacklash: [[http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/zeldacdi/zeldacdi.htm Some of the people]] who have actually played the games contend that that they aren't as bad as they're made out to be. They say that the poorly-animated cut scenes distract from the OK gameplay, and that they're actually some of the better titles for the CD-i.
**
CD-i. That may count as being DamnedByFaintPraise, however.



* DeaderThanDisco: ''Faces of Evil'' and ''Wand of Gamelon'' -- plus ''[[VideoGame/ZeldaIITheAdventureOfLink Zelda II's]]'' reputation as the OddballInTheSeries -- basically killed any chance of there being any further side-scrolling ''Legend of Zelda'' games.
** Oddly enough, when these games were first released, they actually had a fair amount of praise from reviewers and the few who actually played them on release. Good luck finding anyone who considers them anything above SoBadItsGood today.
** It also killed ([[VideoGame/MetroidPrime for a while]]), any attempt to outsource any of Nintendo's core franchises to Western studios after this fiasco.

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* DeaderThanDisco: ''Faces of Evil'' and ''Wand of Gamelon'' -- plus ''[[VideoGame/ZeldaIITheAdventureOfLink Zelda II's]]'' reputation as the OddballInTheSeries -- basically killed any chance of there being any further side-scrolling ''Legend of Zelda'' games.
**
games. Oddly enough, when these games were first released, they actually had a fair amount of praise from reviewers and the few who actually played them on release. Good luck finding anyone who considers them anything above SoBadItsGood today.
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today. It also killed ([[VideoGame/MetroidPrime for a while]]), any attempt to outsource any of Nintendo's core franchises to Western studios after this fiasco.



* EnsembleDarkhorse: Morshu is very popular, despite having only 2 lines of dialogue in the entire game. ''[[{{Catchphrase}} Mmm]]{{m|emeticMutation}}mm''!

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: EnsembleDarkhorse:
**
Morshu is very popular, despite having only 2 lines of dialogue in the entire game. ''[[{{Catchphrase}} Mmm]]{{m|emeticMutation}}mm''!



* HilariousInHindsight: ''Link: The Faces of Evil'' involves [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind a hero being sent by the ruler of his kingdom to a distant island nation to fulfill a prophecy. While there, he uses magical artifacts to save said island from an evil demigod residing in a mountain, who has been transforming the residents of the island into monsters]].
** [[Series/BreakingBad "I won"]].

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* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
**
''Link: The Faces of Evil'' involves [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind a hero being sent by the ruler of his kingdom to a distant island nation to fulfill a prophecy. While there, he uses magical artifacts to save said island from an evil demigod residing in a mountain, who has been transforming the residents of the island into monsters]].
** [[Series/BreakingBad "I won"]].
monsters]].



** "My ship sails in the morning" is one of The King's most memetic quotes. In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker'', [[spoiler: The King of Hyrule is turned into a boat called "The King of Red Lions."]]
* HoYay: A [=BDSM=] relationship is implied between the King and Duke Onkled. [[WebAnimation/YouTubePoop Poopers]] jump on this quite often with videos such as ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZL6YHLwn9M The King's Secret]]''. Although, to be fair, in that vid ''[[CrossesTheLineTwice everybody]]'' is gay.
-->'''Duke Onkled:''' "Please, Your Omnipotence, have mercy!"
** May be a bit squicky because Harkinian and Onkled are [[KissingCousins cousins]].

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** "My ship sails in the morning" is one of The King's most memetic quotes. In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker'', [[spoiler: The King of Hyrule is turned into a boat called "The King of Red Lions."]]
Lions"]].
%% ** [[Series/BreakingBad "I won"]].
* HoYay: A [=BDSM=] relationship is implied between [[KissingCousins the King and Duke Onkled.Onkled]]. [[WebAnimation/YouTubePoop Poopers]] jump on this quite often with videos such as ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZL6YHLwn9M The King's Secret]]''. Although, to be fair, in that vid ''[[CrossesTheLineTwice everybody]]'' is gay.
-->'''Duke Onkled:''' "Please, Please, Your Omnipotence, have mercy!"
** May be a bit squicky because Harkinian and Onkled are [[KissingCousins cousins]].
mercy!



* MemeticMolester: Thanks to one of his lines in ''Wand of Gamelon'' made very questionable via {{Mondegreen}} ("Keep the cunt[[note]]It's supposed to be "the runt"[[/note]] in chains!"), this incarnation of Ganon is seen as one. Not to mention there's the scene where he kidnaps a sleeping Zelda in ''The Faces Of Evil''...

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* MemeticMolester: MemeticMolester:
**
Thanks to one of his lines in ''Wand of Gamelon'' made very questionable via {{Mondegreen}} ("Keep the cunt[[note]]It's supposed to be "the runt"[[/note]] in chains!"), this incarnation of Ganon is seen as one. Not to mention there's the scene where he kidnaps a sleeping Zelda in ''The Faces Of Evil''...



* MemeticMutation: [[FountainOfMemes Pretty much everything]].



* NightmareRetardant: Ironically, ''many'' of the bosses in the game fall victim to this. It's hard to be scared of the villains when all of them have Narmful designs, [[LargeHam bombastic acting]] and just plain ''weird'' methods of terrorizing people.
** Hilariously, the ordinary citizens are often truly frightening thanks to [[UncannyValley odd expressions and movements]] and their habit of moving in closer and invading your personal space.

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* NightmareRetardant: Ironically, ''many'' of the bosses in the game fall victim to this. It's hard to be scared of the villains when all of them have Narmful {{Narm}}ful designs, [[LargeHam bombastic acting]] and just plain ''weird'' methods of terrorizing people.
**
people. Hilariously, the ordinary citizens are often truly frightening thanks to [[UncannyValley odd expressions and movements]] and their habit of moving in closer and invading your personal space.






* SoOkayItsAverage: The gameplay, meanwhile, was handled a fair bit more competently, but not so much as to make the games must-play titles nowadays. What's more, accurate CD-i emulation is notoriously difficult, and CD-i consoles & physical copies of the games themselves can go for up to a few hundred bucks on auction sites, meaning even ''Zelda'' fans who would otherwise be willing to give the CD-i games a chance consider them more trouble than they're worth to actually track down and play. Despite Website/HardcoreGaming101's spirited defense of the games, the sad reality is that few people want to spend $300+ to play something that's only "not as bad as everyone keeps saying."
** Also, you better have a proper gaming-oriented controller with the console itself, because as the [[{{WebVideo/GameGrumps}} Game Grumps]] will attest (their playthrough of ''Wand of Gamelon'' makes the game's various gameplay flaws in the sidescrolling games rather apparent), the regular "remote" controller for the CD-i makes ''Link: The Faces of Evil'' and ''Wand of Gamelon'' (at least) ''damn near unplayable''. Which says more about the system it was released on than the game itself, but still, you're not going to have a good time with the CD-i games without a more traditional controller.

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* SoOkayItsAverage: The gameplay, meanwhile, was handled a fair bit more competently, but not so much as to make the games must-play titles nowadays. What's more, accurate CD-i emulation is notoriously difficult, and CD-i consoles & physical copies of the games themselves can go for up to a few hundred bucks on auction sites, meaning even ''Zelda'' fans who would otherwise be willing to give the CD-i games a chance consider them more trouble than they're worth to actually track down and play. Despite Website/HardcoreGaming101's spirited defense of the games, the sad reality is that few people want to spend $300+ to play something that's only "not as bad as everyone keeps saying."
**
saying".\\\
Also, you better have a proper gaming-oriented controller with the console itself, because as the [[{{WebVideo/GameGrumps}} Game Grumps]] will attest (their playthrough of ''Wand of Gamelon'' makes the game's various gameplay flaws in the sidescrolling games rather apparent), the regular "remote" controller for the CD-i makes ''Link: The Faces of Evil'' and ''Wand of Gamelon'' (at least) ''damn near unplayable''. Which says more about the system it was released on than the game itself, but still, you're not going to have a good time with the CD-i games without a more traditional controller.



* UncannyValley: '''[[UpToEleven GOOD GOD.]]'''

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%% * UncannyValley: '''[[UpToEleven GOOD GOD.]]'''UncannyValley



25th Jan '17 5:19:38 PM klom99
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* UnfortunateImplications: An unintentional example. Militron calls one of his victims a "Worthless Koridian." Due to how compressed the audio is though, it instead sounds like he's saying "Korean." [[YouTubePoop YoutubePoops]] lampshade it a lot.
19th Jan '17 3:27:35 PM Sammettik
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* MisBlamed: A lot of people don't realize that many of the game's flaws came from the fact that it had NoBudget, RushedDevelopment, and was on a system with severe technical limitations (it only had two buttons, for starters, thus explaining why the buttons for talking and using the sword were the same.)

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* MisBlamed: A lot of people don't realize that many of the game's flaws came from the fact that it had NoBudget, RushedDevelopment, rushed development, and was on a system with severe technical limitations (it only had two buttons, for starters, thus explaining why the buttons for talking and using the sword were the same.)
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