History YMMV / TheLegendOfSpyro

15th Feb '18 8:12:26 PM thebluebus
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* EsotericHappyEnding: Dawn of the Dragon, if you subscribe to the theory that Spyro and Cynder died at the end. Sure, they've defeated Malefor and saved the world, but they're, you know, dead.
8th Feb '18 10:12:02 AM ChaoticNovelist
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** Malefor. ''Jesus Christ'', Malefor. This guy's been interpreted in practically ''every'' way possible with the fandom, some of which include; him bullshitting through his teeth when he delivers his BreakingSpeech to Spyro [[note]]mainly because he claims to have had control over stuff and manipulated Spyro and Cynder to such a degree that it would make [[Anime/DeathNote Light]] [[GambitRoulette Yagami]] jealous[[/note]], him not actually believing it's the Purple Dragon's fate to destroy the world, and has a different motive for wanting to go through with it, him just being ''batcrap crazy'', him being batcrap crazy because his elders put so much pressure on him to explore his powers as the first Purple Dragon that he finally snapped [[note]]which makes his NotSoDifferent speech to Spyro all the more chilling considering the amount of pressure the Guardians put on Spyro himself[[/note]], and him wanting to destroy the world so he could recreate it [[InTheirOwnImage in his own image]]... And ''that's'' not ''even'' going into some DracoInLeatherPants theories...

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** Malefor. ''Jesus Christ'', Malefor. This guy's been interpreted in practically ''every'' way possible with the fandom, some of which include; him bullshitting through his teeth when he delivers his BreakingSpeech to Spyro [[note]]mainly because he claims to have had control over stuff and manipulated Spyro and Cynder to such a degree that it would make [[Anime/DeathNote Light]] [[GambitRoulette Yagami]] jealous[[/note]], him not actually believing it's the Purple Dragon's fate to destroy the world, and has a different motive for wanting to go through with it, him just being ''batcrap crazy'', him being batcrap crazy because his elders put so much pressure on him to explore his powers as the first Purple Dragon that he finally snapped [[note]]which makes his NotSoDifferent speech to Spyro all the more chilling considering the amount of pressure the Guardians put on Spyro himself[[/note]], and him wanting to destroy the world so he could recreate it [[InTheirOwnImage in his own image]]... And ''that's'' not ''even'' going into some DracoInLeatherPants theories...



* HypeBacklash[=/=]CriticalBacklash: Both are equally possible. If you listen to only the fans who adore the trilogy to pieces, you'll probably be disappointed. On the other hand, if you listen to only the haters, you'll probably be pleasantly surprised.

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* HypeBacklash[=/=]CriticalBacklash: Both are equally possible. HypeBacklash: If you listen to only the fans who adore the trilogy to pieces, you'll probably be disappointed. On the other hand, if you listen to only the haters, you'll probably be pleasantly surprised. So both this trope and CriticalBacklash can be seen.



* {{Misblamed}}: Most of Cynder's detractors often point towards her {{Wangst}}iness about her past as a major reason for disliking her. In actuality, though, Cynder doesn't do too much angsting about her past in the games proper. The only times she does angst about it are when she leaves the temple in ''The Eternal Night'' and a few times when characters bring it up against her in ''Dawn of the Dragon''. Her {{Wangst}}y image actually comes from a lot of SturgeonsLaw {{Fan Works}}, which tend to play up her past to the point where [[PlotTumor it's almost her]] [[{{Flanderization}} only character trait]]. [[note]]Despite the fact that ''Dawn of the Dragon'' shows she has quite the temper around other, even Spyro.[[/note]]
* {{Narm}}: Spyro's DespairEventHorizon in the third game lasts for whole 30 seconds.

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* {{Misblamed}}: Most of Cynder's detractors often point towards her {{Wangst}}iness about her past as a major reason for disliking her. In actuality, though, Cynder doesn't do too much angsting about her past in the games proper. The only times she does angst about it are when she leaves the temple in ''The Eternal Night'' and a few times when characters bring it up against her in ''Dawn of the Dragon''. Her {{Wangst}}y image actually comes from a lot of SturgeonsLaw {{Fan Works}}, which tend to play up her past to the point where [[PlotTumor it's almost her]] [[{{Flanderization}} only character trait]]. [[note]]Despite the fact that ''Dawn of the Dragon'' shows she has quite the temper around other, others, even Spyro.[[/note]]
* {{Narm}}: Spyro's DespairEventHorizon in the third game lasts for a whole 30 seconds.



* ScrappyMechanic: Let's just say that thanks to the block/evade system, some people with the UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} version of ''[=DotD=]'' demand to know why support for the classic controller wasn't implemented.
** To elaborate: in order to block you have to hold the UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} nunchuk vertical, and dodging requires you to point the analog stick in any direction and flicking the nunchuk in the direction you want to dodge. As you may expect with orientation-based controls, it has a habit of [[FakeDifficulty activating at the worst times, or failing to do so when it's needed.]] And the fighting system relies heavily on effective use of this mechanic...the classic controller has the same amount of buttons in the same orientation as the [=PS3=] controller.
* StrangledByTheRedString: Even though it's a ''large'' portion of the fanbase's OneTruePairing, and many are ''very'' vicious about those who criticize it... Spyro and Cynder's relationship is this. Over the course of the series, they didn't show any interest in each other outside of a friendship, and Cynder was quite snappy with Spyro throughout [=DotD=]. As such, [[spoiler: ThePowerOfLove rescuing Cynder after she fell under Malefor's control again in that game]] [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment may have come completely out of the left field for some]], to the point it borders on {{narm}} for both hardcore fans and people who like the pairing. [[WordOfGod According to Jared Pullen, the lead artist of the trilogy]], this was because [[http://dragonoficeandfire.deviantart.com/journal/Q-A-with-Jared-Pullen-lead-concept-artist-of-TLoS-556546930 Spyro and Cynder]] ''weren't'' intended to get together originally. However, the [[OneTruePairing very vocal]] fans on that subject eventually made them decide to ThrowItIn late in development, which explains why it feels so sudden in-game. Unfortunately, this has led to some seeing the relationship in a rather unflattering light... See AlternativeCharacterInterpretation above.

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* ScrappyMechanic: Let's just say that thanks to the block/evade system, some people with the UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} version of ''[=DotD=]'' demand to know why support for the classic controller wasn't implemented.
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implemented. To elaborate: in order to block you have to hold the UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} nunchuk vertical, and dodging requires you to point the analog stick in any direction and flicking the nunchuk in the direction you want to dodge. As you may expect with orientation-based controls, it has a habit of [[FakeDifficulty activating at the worst times, or failing to do so when it's needed.]] And the fighting system relies heavily on effective use of this mechanic...the classic controller has the same amount of buttons in the same orientation as the [=PS3=] controller.
* StrangledByTheRedString: Even though it's a ''large'' portion of the fanbase's OneTruePairing, and many are ''very'' vicious about those who criticize it... Spyro and Cynder's relationship is this.has little in-game development. Over the course of the series, they didn't show any interest in each other outside of a friendship, and Cynder was quite snappy with Spyro throughout [=DotD=]. As such, [[spoiler: ThePowerOfLove rescuing Cynder after she fell under Malefor's control again in that game]] [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment may have come completely out of the left field for some]], to the point it borders on {{narm}} for both hardcore fans and people who like the pairing. [[WordOfGod According to Jared Pullen, the lead artist of the trilogy]], this was because [[http://dragonoficeandfire.deviantart.com/journal/Q-A-with-Jared-Pullen-lead-concept-artist-of-TLoS-556546930 Spyro and Cynder]] ''weren't'' intended to get together originally. However, the [[OneTruePairing very vocal]] fans on that subject eventually made them decide to ThrowItIn late in development, which explains why it feels so sudden in-game. Unfortunately, this has led to some seeing the relationship in a rather unflattering light... See AlternativeCharacterInterpretation above.
6th Feb '18 6:09:41 PM TokoWH
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* LateArrivalSpoiler: The fact that Cynder is actually a young dragoness from the same generation of eggs Spyro came from, twisted in a dark and evil form by Malefor was a major plot twist in the first game. The second and third games don't even try to hide this fact, with Cynder herself even appearing on the box art of the third game. The rampant [[{{Shipping}} shippers]] don't help in that regard, either.
5th Jan '18 11:26:56 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Malefor]] is an evil dragon, banished by the Dragon Elders for his ambition, power and limitless evil. Waging war against his own kind, [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Malefor]] slaughtered countless people before being sealed away. Upon his orders, Malefor sent his armies to mercilessly slaughter the dragon temple, causing the deaths of hundreds of baby dragons. Needing a baby dragon for his plans, Malefor corrupted Cynder to become a psychopathic monster which indirectly caused even more death and misery. Despite losing Cynder as a minion, Malefor manipulated Spyro into freeing him from his prison by corrupting him and annihilating his right-hand man Gaul. Finally free, Malefor “rewarded” the apes by cursing them to be undead skeletons left to scurry in the underground. Creating a new army of grublins, Malefor waged a horrific war on the realms and destroyed the dragon temple’s swampland and created a volcanic wasteland, killing countless people, including possibly Spyro’s adoptive parents.After the Golem he sent to destroy Warfang was killed, Malefor resurrected The Destroyer to walk the ring of fire to destroy destroy the earth.Finally meeting Spyro and Cynder, he [[HannibalLecture makes Cynder’s insecurities vulnerable]] and corrupts her to kill Spyro. Even with the world breaking apart, Malefor gave horrific beatdowns to the duo relentlessly. A horrific sadist who believed he was “fulfilling the role of the Purple Dragon” Malefor brought nothing but death and misery easily cementing as the ultimate evil in the Spyro franchise, even surpassing The Sorceress in depravity.

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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Malefor]] is an evil dragon, banished by the Dragon Elders for his ambition, power and limitless evil. Waging war against his own kind, [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Malefor]] slaughtered countless people before being sealed away. Upon his orders, Malefor sent his armies to mercilessly slaughter ape servants smash the dragon temple, causing eggs of the deaths of hundreds of baby dragons. Needing a baby dragon for his plans, Malefor corrupted Cynder to become a psychopathic monster which indirectly caused even more death purple dragons and misery. Despite losing Cynder as a minion, Malefor manipulated overrun the rest of dragonkind. [[TheChessmaster Manipulating Spyro into freeing him from his prison by corrupting him, Malefor attempts to forcibly corrupt him and annihilating his right-hand man Gaul. Finally free, fellow dragon Cynder]]. Malefor “rewarded” the apes by cursing them to be then turned his entire army of ape servants into undead living skeletons left to scurry in and spread plague and destruction throughout the underground. Creating a new army of grublins, world. Malefor waged a horrific war on then prepared to bring about "The Great Cleansing": [[OmnicidalManiac the realms and destroyed the dragon temple’s swampland and created a volcanic wasteland, killing countless people, including possibly Spyro’s adoptive parents.After the Golem he sent to destroy Warfang was killed, Malefor resurrected The Destroyer to walk the ring extermination of fire to destroy destroy the earth.Finally meeting Spyro and Cynder, he [[HannibalLecture makes Cynder’s insecurities vulnerable]] and corrupts her to kill Spyro. Even with the world breaking apart, Malefor gave horrific beatdowns to the duo relentlessly. A horrific sadist who believed he was “fulfilling the role of the Purple Dragon” Malefor brought nothing but death and misery easily cementing as the ultimate evil all life in the Spyro franchise, even surpassing The Sorceress world]] save that which he could corrupt, to craft a new world [[InTheirOwnImage in depravity.his own twisted image]].
5th Jan '18 11:13:59 PM Nuk3dragon
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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Malefor]] is an evil dragon, banished by the Dragon Elders for his ambition, power and limitless evil. Waging war against his own kind, [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Malefor]] slaughtered countless people before being sealed away. Upon his orders, his ape servants smash the eggs of the purple dragons and overrun the rest of dragonkind. [[TheChessmaster Manipulating Spyro into freeing him, Malefor attempts to forcibly corrupt him and his fellow dragon Cynder]]. Malefor then turned his entire army of ape servants into undead living skeletons and spread plague and destruction throughout the world. Malefor then prepared to bring about "The Great Cleansing": [[OmnicidalManiac the extermination of all life in the world]] save that which he could corrupt, to craft a new world [[InTheirOwnImage in his own twisted image]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Malefor]] is an evil dragon, banished by the Dragon Elders for his ambition, power and limitless evil. Waging war against his own kind, [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Malefor]] slaughtered countless people before being sealed away. Upon his orders, Malefor sent his ape servants smash armies to mercilessly slaughter the eggs of dragon temple, causing the purple dragons deaths of hundreds of baby dragons. Needing a baby dragon for his plans, Malefor corrupted Cynder to become a psychopathic monster which indirectly caused even more death and overrun the rest of dragonkind. [[TheChessmaster Manipulating misery. Despite losing Cynder as a minion, Malefor manipulated Spyro into freeing him, him from his prison by corrupting him and annihilating his right-hand man Gaul. Finally free, Malefor attempts “rewarded” the apes by cursing them to forcibly corrupt him and his fellow dragon Cynder]]. Malefor then turned his entire army of ape servants into be undead living skeletons and spread plague and destruction throughout left to scurry in the world. underground. Creating a new army of grublins, Malefor then prepared to bring about "The Great Cleansing": [[OmnicidalManiac waged a horrific war on the extermination realms and destroyed the dragon temple’s swampland and created a volcanic wasteland, killing countless people, including possibly Spyro’s adoptive parents.After the Golem he sent to destroy Warfang was killed, Malefor resurrected The Destroyer to walk the ring of all life fire to destroy destroy the earth.Finally meeting Spyro and Cynder, he [[HannibalLecture makes Cynder’s insecurities vulnerable]] and corrupts her to kill Spyro. Even with the world breaking apart, Malefor gave horrific beatdowns to the duo relentlessly. A horrific sadist who believed he was “fulfilling the role of the Purple Dragon” Malefor brought nothing but death and misery easily cementing as the ultimate evil in the world]] save that which he could corrupt, to craft a new world [[InTheirOwnImage Spyro franchise, even surpassing The Sorceress in his own twisted image]].depravity.
30th Dec '17 12:03:30 PM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Malefor]] is an evil dragon, banished by the Dragon Elders for his ambition, power and limitless evil. Waging war against his own kind, [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Malefor]] slaughtered countless people before being sealed away. Upon his orders, his ape servants smash the eggs of the purple dragons and overrun the rest of dragonkind. Manipulating Spyro into freeing him, Malefor attempts to forcibly corrupt him and his fellow dragon Cynder. Malefor then turned his entire army of ape servants into undead living skeletons and spread plague and destruction throughout the world. Malefor then prepared to bring about "The Great Cleansing": [[OmnicidalManiac the extermination of all life in the world]] save that which he could corrupt, to craft a new world [[InTheirOwnImage in his own twisted image]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Malefor]] is an evil dragon, banished by the Dragon Elders for his ambition, power and limitless evil. Waging war against his own kind, [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Malefor]] slaughtered countless people before being sealed away. Upon his orders, his ape servants smash the eggs of the purple dragons and overrun the rest of dragonkind. [[TheChessmaster Manipulating Spyro into freeing him, Malefor attempts to forcibly corrupt him and his fellow dragon Cynder.Cynder]]. Malefor then turned his entire army of ape servants into undead living skeletons and spread plague and destruction throughout the world. Malefor then prepared to bring about "The Great Cleansing": [[OmnicidalManiac the extermination of all life in the world]] save that which he could corrupt, to craft a new world [[InTheirOwnImage in his own twisted image]].
30th Dec '17 12:02:12 PM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[KnightOfCerebus Malefor]], who is [[BigBad behind the evil of the entire trilogy]], is an evil dragon, banished by the Dragon Elders for his {{ambition|Is Evil}}, power and limitless evil. Waging war against his own kind, [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Malefor]] slaughtered countless people before being sealed away. Upon his orders, his ape servants smash the eggs of the purple dragons and overrun the rest of dragonkind. [[TheChessmaster Manipulating Spyro into freeing him]], Malefor attempts to forcibly corrupt him and his fellow dragon Cynder. Malefor then turned his entire army of ape servants into undead living skeletons and spread plague and destruction throughout the world. Malefor then prepared to bring about "The Great Cleansing": [[OmnicidalManiac the extermination of all life in the world]] save that which he could corrupt, to craft a new world in his own twisted image.

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* CompleteMonster: [[KnightOfCerebus Malefor]], who is [[BigBad behind the evil of the entire trilogy]], Malefor]] is an evil dragon, banished by the Dragon Elders for his {{ambition|Is Evil}}, ambition, power and limitless evil. Waging war against his own kind, [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Malefor]] slaughtered countless people before being sealed away. Upon his orders, his ape servants smash the eggs of the purple dragons and overrun the rest of dragonkind. [[TheChessmaster Manipulating Spyro into freeing him]], him, Malefor attempts to forcibly corrupt him and his fellow dragon Cynder. Malefor then turned his entire army of ape servants into undead living skeletons and spread plague and destruction throughout the world. Malefor then prepared to bring about "The Great Cleansing": [[OmnicidalManiac the extermination of all life in the world]] save that which he could corrupt, to craft a new world [[InTheirOwnImage in his own twisted image.image]].
29th Oct '17 8:24:40 AM Pichu-kun
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* CriticalDissonance: Dawn of the Dragon especially. It was the worst-reviewed of the trilogy and got very middling to bad scores from critics. However, it seems to be the fans' favorite game in the trilogy.
* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Really, a lot of the animosity towards this series tends to boil down to this. If you ask most Classic purist why they don't like this trilogy, the most common response you'll get is "because it's too dark, and it just doesn't fit Spyro!". Indeed, compared to the light-hearted Classic trilogy, it can be rather hard to keep an optimistic outlook while going through the trilogy. The first game isn't ''too'' bad, being only slightly darker than the Classic trilogy, but once you get to ''The Eternal Night''... It can get pretty hard to press on, if only because watching Spyro suffer is only a ''part'' of it. [[spoiler:However, it should be noted that it ''does'' [[EarnYourHappyEnding have a relatively happy ending for everyone.]]]]

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* CriticalDissonance: Dawn ''Dawn of the Dragon Dragon'' especially. It was the worst-reviewed of the trilogy and got very middling to bad scores from critics. However, it seems to be the fans' favorite game in the trilogy.
* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Really, a lot of the animosity towards this series tends to boil down to this. If you ask most Classic purist why they don't like this trilogy, the most common response you'll get is "because it's too dark, and it just doesn't fit Spyro!".''Spyro''!". Indeed, compared to the light-hearted Classic trilogy, it can be rather hard to keep an optimistic outlook while going through the trilogy. The first game isn't ''too'' bad, being only slightly darker than the Classic trilogy, but once you get to ''The Eternal Night''... It can get pretty hard to press on, if only because watching Spyro suffer is only a ''part'' of it. [[spoiler:However, it should be noted that it ''does'' [[EarnYourHappyEnding have a relatively happy ending for everyone.]]]]



* FridgeLogic: Quite a bit of it, though [[http://shalonesk.deviantart.com/art/The-Legend-of-Spyro-DotD-is-151153490 this fanart]] sums up a few of ''Dawn of the Dragon'''s problems quite nicely.

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* FridgeLogic: FridgeLogic:
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Quite a bit of it, though [[http://shalonesk.deviantart.com/art/The-Legend-of-Spyro-DotD-is-151153490 this fanart]] sums up a few of ''Dawn of the Dragon'''s problems quite nicely.



** Pyra is now canon / Pyra > [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Derpy]] [[labelnote:Explanation]]After the lead artist of LoS went into [[http://dragonoficeandfire.deviantart.com/art/--532115716 how the young dragon next to Ignitus in one of the cutscenes]] was intended to be a side character in the series, his back story and being one of the few dragons relatively close to Spyro and Cynder's age immidately made him explode in popularity with the fandom, despite never appearing in the trilogy proper.[[/labelnote]]

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** Pyra is now canon / Pyra > [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Derpy]] [[labelnote:Explanation]]After the lead artist of LoS ''LoS'' went into [[http://dragonoficeandfire.deviantart.com/art/--532115716 how the young dragon next to Ignitus in one of the cutscenes]] was intended to be a side character in the series, his back story and being one of the few dragons relatively close to Spyro and Cynder's age immidately made him explode in popularity with the fandom, despite never appearing in the trilogy proper.[[/labelnote]]


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* PopularWithFurries: ''Legend of Spyro'' is more popular with scalies than the Classic series or ''Skylanders''. This is due to its more realistic looking dragons and focus on story.
27th Sep '17 2:23:15 PM TokoWH
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** Dark Spyro. Despite being Spyro's Super-PoweredEvilSide, he barely, if at all, affects the plot. The only noticeable thing he does is kill Gaul and that's it.

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** Dark Spyro. Despite being Spyro's Super-PoweredEvilSide, SuperPoweredEvilSide, he barely, if at all, affects the plot. The only noticeable thing he does is kill Gaul and that's it.
27th Sep '17 2:22:49 PM TokoWH
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Dark Spyro. Despite being Spyro's Super-PoweredEvilSide, he barely, if at all, affects the plot. The only noticeable thing he does is kill Gaul and that's it.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
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Dark Spyro. Despite being Spyro's Super-PoweredEvilSide, he barely, if at all, affects the plot. The only noticeable thing he does is kill Gaul and that's it.it.
** Evil!Cynder. More than a few found her overall more interesting and enjoyable than non-corrupted Cynder, with a few wishing she had remained a villain for the entire trilogy rather than pulling a HeelFaceTurn after it was revealed she was BrainWashedAndCrazy.
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