History YMMV / TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen

20th Nov '17 1:13:21 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: The BigBad is the elusive Fantom, actually [[spoiler:Professor James Moriarty]], who wishes to engulf the world in war, just [[{{Greed}} so he can line his pockets]]. Killing British and German citizens to increase tensions, the Fantom tries to attack a peace conference by sinking all of Venice, where it was taking place. [[spoiler:Founding the titular League while acting as "M", claiming it to be a counterterrorist organization, he gathers a group of individuals with superpowers and advanced technology, planning to replicate them to sell to the highest bidder in the war he plans]]. At his secret base, he houses hundreds of scientists, forcing them to work around the clock to recreate the League's abilities, while keeping their families hostage in overcrowded cells.

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* CompleteMonster: The BigBad is the elusive Fantom, [[BigBad Fantom]], actually [[spoiler:Professor James Moriarty]], who wishes to engulf the world in war, just [[{{Greed}} so he can line his pockets]]. Killing British and German citizens to increase tensions, the Fantom tries to attack a peace conference by sinking all of Venice, where it was taking place. [[spoiler:Founding the titular League while acting as "M", claiming it to be a counterterrorist organization, he gathers a group of individuals with superpowers and advanced technology, planning to replicate them to sell to the highest bidder in the war he plans]]. At his secret base, he houses hundreds of scientists, forcing them to work around the clock to recreate the League's abilities, while keeping their families hostage in overcrowded cells.
15th Nov '17 10:20:21 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: The BigBad is the elusive Fantom, actually [[spoiler:Professor James Moriarty]], who wishes to engulf the world in war, just [[{{Greed}} so he can line his pockets]]. Killing British and German citizens to increase tensions, the Fantom tries to attack a peace conference by sinking all of Venice, where it was taking place. [[spoiler:Founding the titular League while acting as "M", claiming it to be a counterterrorist organization, he gathers a group of individuals with superpowers and advanced technology, planning to replicate them to sell to the highest bidder in the war he plans]]. At his secret base, he houses hundreds of scientists, forcing them to work around the clock to recreate the League's abilities, while keeping their families hostage in overcrowded cells.
20th Oct '17 3:26:10 AM SideburnsKid
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* NightmareRetardant: The BigBad loses all intimidation when he starts taunting Quartermaine in the cemetery. Why? Because the whole time he's running around desperately trying to get out like a frightened child.
4th Oct '17 11:15:49 AM BeastC
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Seemingly in response to the criticisms towards ''Century'''s Anglocentric setting (as described in TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot), press releases for ''The Tempest'' promises expansion of the story's setting to America.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Seemingly in response to the criticisms towards ''Century'''s Anglocentric setting (as described in TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot), TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot and CreatorProvincialism), press releases for ''The Tempest'' promises expansion of the story's setting to America.



* FanficFuel: This is a universe where every piece of fiction to ever be published exists alongside each other and are connected in some way. Go nuts.

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* FanficFuel: This is a universe where every piece of fiction to ever be published exists alongside each other and are connected in some way. [[WMG/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen Go nuts.nuts]].
1st Oct '17 4:32:00 PM TheFallofElDorado
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** YOU ARE THE SHIT OF THE WORLD! I KILL YOU NOW!

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** YOU ARE THE SHIT OF THE WORLD! I SHALL KILL YOU NOW!
1st Oct '17 12:42:04 AM JulianLapostat
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* NeverLiveItDown: One can see the League as this trope taken to its zenith. Basically, if a character's original books had elements of sexism, racism, and class-biases that the author dislikes, they will be brought in an subject to CharacterExaggeration to the extreme and Moore's take which serves as a GatewaySeries for some younger readers, ensures that those aspects get focused on to the exclusion of everything:
** It's true that Allan Quatermain is a GreatWhiteHunter and an opium addict and he wasn't always a straight and confident hero, but the barely functional on-and-off-the-wagon League take on Quatermain is just as much Moore's invention as everything he accuses Hollywood of doing to soften him and others of his kind up.
** Did Franchise/JamesBond deserve a long overdue piss-take? Absolutely. Was Moore's take hilarious? Yes. But does that mean there's nothing compelling about his films or the original book or espionage fiction which Moore sees as propaganda for RuleAbidingRebel? That last part is dubious, especially since Moore's focus on his Bond satire is Fleming!Bond, and Creator/RogerMoore and Creator/DanielCraig. Missing is ''Film/OnHerMajestysSecretService'' which many consider an excellent film, and a very successful and convincing attempt at humanizing Bond, as well as other aesthetic qualities such as the action, gadgets, and set design which Moore mocks as impractical, but which others would see as NarmCharm of the kind Moore celebrates elsewhere and which is surely no less practical than the ScienceHero set-up of Captain Nemo and others, which Moore plays straight.
** Many fans of the series, and InUniverse Severus Snape, have long seen Franchise/HarryPotter as a trust-fund kid coasting off the sacrifices of better wizards and a VanillaProtagonist and PinballProtagonist, and yes, to the extent that he was a two dimensional character, his traits largely involved [[{{Wangst}} wangsting]] about his life, and yes the WorldBuilding was always flat and left a lot to be deserved, but the series also had a lot of rich characters and concepts (such as Luna Lovegood, Neville Longbottom, Remus Lupin) as well as a lot of cool concepts and ideas, not all of which should be swept aside. And as for representing the summit of modern franchise and blockbusters (which Moore says is repetitive, dead, and regurgitating cliches), many would wonder why Harry Potter is attacked when it is an original IP developed in the late-[=90s=], made into a series of films that haven't been remade at the time Moore was writing, and surely deserves less blame or credit than say ''Franchise/SpiderManTrilogy'', ''Franchise/TheLordOfTheRings'' and Creator/GeorgeLucas' ''Franchise/StarWars'' prequels, all three of which are made of older properties.
30th Sep '17 1:05:51 PM BeastC
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Seemingly in response to the criticisms towards ''Century'''s Anglocentric setting (as described in TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot), press releases for ''The Tempest'' promises expansion of the story's setting to America.
27th Sep '17 2:20:21 PM Homemaderat
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* CreatorProvincialism: A frequent criticism of the later volumes. For a series that's ostensibly a tribute to the history of fiction, it can strike some readers as a bit strange that most of the coded references in ''2009'' are to British pop culture, in spite of the growing influence of American and Japanese pop culture in the 21st century.

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* CreatorProvincialism: A frequent criticism of the later volumes. For a series that's ostensibly a tribute to the history of fiction, it can strike some readers as a bit strange that most of the coded references in ''2009'' are to British pop culture, in spite of the growing influence of American and Japanese pop culture in the 21st century. Not to mention how most pop culture references have switched so that literature sources aren't the majority.



* OlderThanTheyThink: One of Moore's basic points was restoring the UnbuiltTrope of works known via PopCulturalOsmosis through multimedia adaptations which get so LostInImitation that they aren't really the original story anymore:
** Captain Nemo's Indian origin was made by Creator/JulesVerne himself in ''Literature/TheMysteriousIsland'' and partly foreshadowed in ''Literature/TwentyThousandLeaguesUnderTheSea''. Likewise, Moore isn't the first to suggest that Mina Murray's marriage with Jonathan Harker would hit the rocks in ''Literature/{{Dracula}}'' after the supposed HappyEnding since many critics and Creator/FrancisFordCoppola suggested that subtext before him. There's hints near the end of Robert Louis Stevenson's story that Hyde could big become bigger than Jekyll.
** Many who claimed that [[spoiler:the portrayal of the Antichrist and Harry Potter]] was unfaithful to the source material. The Antichrist's personality in Century:2009 as a paranoid teenager confused about his destiny and confused about being a PinballProtagonist by his mentor is more or less consistent to the {{Wangst}}-y arc of the character in Book 5 (which was pointedly excised from the films to make the character sympathetic to the audience, i.e. proving Moore's point), as is the criticism about his obsession of fame and repeatedly noting how famous he is, much of which echoes complaints by EnsembleDarkhorse characters in the books. Likewise the portrayal of [[spoiler:Ron and Hermione with Ron bravely standing to try and talk sense to Harry while Hermione cries for her mother is an exaggerated inversion of the dynamic in the movies where Hermione is portrayed as an ActionGirl with Ron's best moments given to her]].

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* OlderThanTheyThink: One of Moore's basic points was restoring the UnbuiltTrope of works known via PopCulturalOsmosis through multimedia adaptations which get so LostInImitation that they aren't really the original story anymore:
anymore. We'll examine several individual issues and their oounterpoints.
** Captain Nemo's Indian origin was made by Creator/JulesVerne himself in ''Literature/TheMysteriousIsland'' and partly foreshadowed in ''Literature/TwentyThousandLeaguesUnderTheSea''. Likewise, However thanks to many adaptations turning him British, some are surprised Moore's restoring something.
** In ''Literature/{{Dracula}}'' Mina and Jonathan Harker's marriage is presented fairly happy by then standards. It is however mostly because of the boys club attitude that helps Mina get turned into the Damsel in distress. The book ends with a happy epilogue for them which League doesn't not use.
Moore isn't the first to suggest that Mina Murray's marriage with Jonathan Harker would hit the rocks in ''Literature/{{Dracula}}'' after the supposed HappyEnding since many critics and Creator/FrancisFordCoppola suggested that subtext before him. him.
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There's hints near the end of one line in Robert Louis Stevenson's story that mentions that Hyde could big become bigger than Jekyll.
"grew in stature" as time goes on. Some interpret this to mean physically. This is the interpretation Moore ran with to essentially make Hyde a hulk like beast. The opposite takes in mind earlier Jekyll is described as hearty while Hyde was smaller and sickly, and suggests this line meant Hyde grew to be the more healthy stronger looking instead of actually growing to Hulk size. Either way this discussion happened long before Moore.
** Many who claimed that [[spoiler:the portrayal of the Antichrist and Harry Potter]] was unfaithful to the source material. The Antichrist's personality in Century:2009 as a paranoid teenager confused about his destiny and confused about being a PinballProtagonist by his mentor is more or less consistent to the {{Wangst}}-y arc of the character in Book 5 (which was pointedly excised from the films to make the character sympathetic to the audience, i.e. proving Moore's point), as is the criticism about his obsession of fame and repeatedly noting how famous he is, much of which echoes complaints by EnsembleDarkhorse characters in the books. Likewise While it may be deconstruction to turn him flat out into the portrayal of [[spoiler:Ron and Hermione with Ron bravely standing to try and talk sense to Harry while Hermione cries for her mother is an exaggerated inversion antichrist, this critique of the dynamic in the movies where Hermione is portrayed as an ActionGirl with Ron's best moments given to her]]. character was certainly not originated here.
21st Sep '17 11:31:09 PM LadyNorbert
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Orlando is this. To some readers, he/she is a BloodKnight who is LivingForeverIsAwesome personified. To other's he/she's a CreatorsPet and a one-note CampGay.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Orlando is this. To some readers, he/she is a BloodKnight who is LivingForeverIsAwesome personified. To other's others, he/she's a CreatorsPet and a one-note CampGay.



* ValuesDissonance: The comic deliberately fakes this trope to create aesops such as "The Chinese are brilliant, but evil". Which we would like to stress is a verbatim quote.
* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: The Beatnik novella from the Black Dossier reads like this, which, given the source material, isn't surprising. If one takes the time to actually decipher the text, the plot seems to involve Fu Manchu and Professor Moriarty's descendants ([[Literature/OnTheRoad Dean Moriarty]] and [[Creator/JackKerouac Doctor Sax]], respectively) continuing a family feud by unleashing an ancient Aztec linguistic virus made from centipedes. Oh and the virus actually turns out to be Lovecraftian {{Eldritch Abomination}}s.

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* ValuesDissonance: The comic deliberately fakes this trope to create aesops such as "The Chinese are brilliant, but evil". Which we evil." We would like to stress this is a verbatim quote.
* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: The Beatnik novella from the Black Dossier ''Black Dossier'' reads like this, which, given the source material, isn't surprising. If one takes the time to actually decipher the text, the plot seems to involve Fu Manchu and Professor Moriarty's descendants ([[Literature/OnTheRoad Dean Moriarty]] and [[Creator/JackKerouac Doctor Sax]], respectively) continuing a family feud by unleashing an ancient Aztec linguistic virus made from centipedes. Oh and the virus actually turns out to be Lovecraftian {{Eldritch Abomination}}s.



*** Quartermain: A legendary old hero in an era that is not his own, who lost someone close to him while working for his government.

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*** Quartermain: Quatermain: A legendary old hero in an era that is not his own, who lost someone close to him while working for his government.



*** And they're all working at the behest of a mysterious government figure. The only ones that don't match are Thor and Hawkeye [[note]]unless you include Quartermain, who is a crack shot, or reformed thief Skinner (assuming MCU Hawkeye shares that part of the comic version's past)[[/note]], but other than that, one almost expects Quartermain to yell "[[ComicBook/TheAvengers League, Assemble!]]"

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*** And they're all working at the behest of a mysterious government figure. The only ones that don't match are Thor and Hawkeye [[note]]unless you include Quartermain, Quatermain, who is a crack shot, or reformed thief Skinner (assuming MCU Hawkeye shares that part of the comic version's past)[[/note]], but other than that, one almost expects Quartermain Quatermain to yell "[[ComicBook/TheAvengers League, Assemble!]]"
21st Sep '17 11:26:57 PM LadyNorbert
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*** A bit meta but almost all of Alan Moore's choices for ''Century:2009'' were recycled cliches about millennials. Millennials are overly reliant on pharmaceuticals, have no culture, aren't involved in politics or society, the list goes on. For all of Moore's supposed counter-culture tendencies, it's very easy to picture him complaining about today's big civil rights movements in the same way Louise Mensch might. How bad is it? The closest Moore comes to approaching what today's generation has to deal with is observing that row after row of houses are empty but quickly back peddles from this and tries to frame it as being the fault of Millennials! [[spoiler: That the entire Harry Potter plot line boils down to a Dark!Harry Manipulative!Dumbledore fanfiction is really just the least of Moore's poor choices.]]

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*** A bit meta but almost all of Alan Moore's choices for ''Century:2009'' were recycled cliches about millennials. Millennials are overly reliant on pharmaceuticals, have no culture, aren't involved in politics or society, the list goes on. For all of Moore's supposed counter-culture tendencies, it's very easy to picture him complaining about today's big civil rights movements in the same way Louise Mensch might. How bad is it? The closest Moore comes to approaching what today's generation has to deal with is observing that row after row of houses are empty but quickly back peddles backpedals from this and tries to frame it as being the fault of Millennials! [[spoiler: That the entire Harry Potter plot line boils down to a Dark!Harry Manipulative!Dumbledore fanfiction is really just the least of Moore's poor choices.]]




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