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* TheWoobie: Rarity... or at least, she is in the ''[[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/131045/a-shadow-hangs-overhead A Shadow Hangs Overhead]]'' sub-universe. Not only did she have to deal with the fact that she killed somepony, as a foal no less, but the police are going out of their way to make her miserable, and she's having a bad day to rival [[DeadmanWonderland Ganta Igarashi]]. To any non-DeadmanWonderland fans, by the way, that is not a statement one can make lightly.
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* TheWoobie: Rarity... or at least, she is in the ''[[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/131045/a-shadow-hangs-overhead A Shadow Hangs Overhead]]'' sub-universe. Not only did she have to deal with the fact that she killed somepony, as a foal no less, but the police are going out of their way to make her miserable, and she's having a bad day to rival [[DeadmanWonderland Ganta Igarashi]]. Igarashi. To any non-DeadmanWonderland non-Manga/DeadmanWonderland fans, by the way, that is not a statement one can make lightly.
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** For Celestia, the moment that puts her into HeWhoFightsMonsters territory is when [[spoiler: she orders the execution of Battle Charge, a guard who allowed Blossom to murder Shining Armor because she was holding his family hostage.]] After this, both Luna and Cadance are convinced that she has gone off the deep end.
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** For Celestia, [[spoiler: Celestia]], the moment that puts her into HeWhoFightsMonsters territory is when [[spoiler: she orders the execution of Battle Charge, a guard who allowed Blossom to murder Shining Armor because she was holding his family hostage.]] After this, both Luna and Cadance are convinced that she has gone off the deep end.
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** For Celestia, the moment that puts her into HeWhoFightsMonsters territory is when [[spoiler: she orders the execution of Battle Charge, a guard who allowed Blossom to murder Shining Armor because she was holding his family hostage.]] After this, both Luna and Cadance are convinced that she has gone off the deep end.
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** Another event that shows just how far gone Blossom is is when she [[spoiler:kidnaps Apple Seed, her honorary cousin, and tortures her both physically and mentally. She convinces Apple Seed that she is at fault for Blossom's killing spree, having convinced her to turn herself in at the end of Broken Blossom, and inflicts a knife wound on her that renders her unable to have foals, essentially wiping out the Ponyville branch of the Apple family line.]]
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* MagnumOpus: Bronywriter considers this series to be his finest.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The writer's willingness to pile on one utterly devastating tragedy after another can get pretty draining, especially in cases where a happy or at least BittersweetEnding seems to be possible.
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I reread the relevant chapter, and the key thing isn\'t any less stupid - when you have a patient who\'s expected to be in a restraining bolt for the rest of her life, for her own and others\' safety, it only makes sense to keep the key to it far away from her at all times.
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* IdiotPlot: ''The Word is Fear'', specifically: [[spoiler: Blossom's escape from custody relies on rather glaring holes in her security. In addition, it relies on the Princesses never making the choice to have her horn removed, which made sense ''at first'', when she was still reasonably lucid, (plus, it was her greatest fear because of what happened to her mother) - but after Blossom has proven herself a potential danger to herself and others, not so much.]]
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* IdiotPlot: ''The Word is Fear'', specifically: [[spoiler: Blossom's escape from custody relies on rather glaring holes in her security.security, not the least of which is the fact that her guard is conveniently carrying the key to her horn blocker with him when he and everypony else have no reason to believe she'll ever be safe to have it removed. In addition, it relies on the Princesses never making the choice to have her horn removed, which made sense ''at first'', when she was still reasonably lucid, (plus, it was her greatest fear because of what happened to her mother) - but after Blossom has proven herself a potential danger to herself and others, not so much.]]
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* TheWoobie: Rarity... or at least, she is in the ''[[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/131045/a-shadow-hangs-overhead A Shadow Hangs Overhead]]'' sub-universe. Not only did she have to deal with the fact that she killed somepony, as a foal no less, but the police are going out of their way to make her miserable, and she's having a bad day to rival [[DeadmanWonderland Ganta Igarashi]]. To any non-DeadmanWonderland fans, by the way, that is not a statement one can make lightly.
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* TheWoobie: Rarity... or at least, she is in the ''[[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/131045/a-shadow-hangs-overhead A Shadow Hangs Overhead]]'' sub-universe. Not only did she have to deal with the fact that she killed somepony, as a foal no less, but the police are going out of their way to make her miserable, and she's having a bad day to rival [[DeadmanWonderland Ganta Igarashi]]. To any non-DeadmanWonderland fans, by the way, that is not a statement one can make lightly.lightly.
** Sweetie Belle is this big time, especially in "Broken Blossom".
** Joyous Blossom, as well. She suffered a lot of PTSD after [[spoiler:Golden Necklace and Fire Ruby]].
** Sweetie Belle is this big time, especially in "Broken Blossom".
** Joyous Blossom, as well. She suffered a lot of PTSD after [[spoiler:Golden Necklace and Fire Ruby]].
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Diamond Tiara died letting go of Blossom.
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* IdiotPlot: ''The Word is Fear'', specifically: [[spoiler: Blossom's escape from custody relies on rather glaring holes in her security, not least the fact that her guard is conveniently carrying around the key to her horn-blocker when he has no reason to believe she'll ever be in a fit condition to have it removed. In addition, it relies on the Princesses never making the choice to have her horn removed, which made sense ''at first'', when she was still reasonably lucid, (plus, it was her greatest fear because of what happened to her mother) - but after Blossom has proven herself a potential danger to herself and others, not so much.]]
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* IdiotPlot: ''The Word is Fear'', specifically: [[spoiler: Blossom's escape from custody relies on rather glaring holes in her security, not least the fact that her guard is conveniently carrying around the key to her horn-blocker when he has no reason to believe she'll ever be in a fit condition to have it removed.security. In addition, it relies on the Princesses never making the choice to have her horn removed, which made sense ''at first'', when she was still reasonably lucid, (plus, it was her greatest fear because of what happened to her mother) - but after Blossom has proven herself a potential danger to herself and others, not so much.]]
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: Diamond Tiara becomes one in Public Life of Sweetie Belle when she helps her kid scar Blossom (with said act unwittingly leading to the deaths of her & Silver Spoon's daughters, and leading to Sweetie Belle being institutionalized. At least the kid doing so can be sort of justified (but not really) due to being a SpoiledBrat who isn't old enough to know what she's doing is wrong.]]
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Please present all Complete Monster candidates in this thread.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: [[spoiler:Is Princess Celestia really a righteous ruler that is trying to do the right thing, or is she a ruthless tyrant who has no problem with killing foals?]]
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** Some could say that [[spoiler:Princess Celestia]] crossed it either [[spoiler:when she executed an eight-year-old filly]] or [[spoiler:executed Rarity, knowing fully that she's the Element of Generosity]].
** [[spoiler:Diamond Tiara crossed it when she made fun of Sweetie Belle because she lost her sister and even said that she should be dead too.]]
** [[spoiler:Diamond Tiara crossed it when she made fun of Sweetie Belle because she lost her sister and even said that she should be dead too.]]
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* TheWoobie: Rarity... or at least, she is in the ''[[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/131045/a-shadow-hangs-overhead A Shadow Hangs Overhead]]'' sub-universe. Not only did she have to deal with the fact that she killed somepony, as a foal no less, but the police are going out of their way to make her miserable, and she's having a bad day to rival [[DeadmanWonderland Ganta Igarashi]]. To any non-DeadmanWonderland fans, by the way, that is not a statement one can make lightly.
** Sweetie Belle is this to the extreme. [[spoiler:She finds out that her sister was a killer and she soon ends up [[AccidentalMurder accidentally killing Scarlet Tomato]] when she wanted to idolize Rarity. This led her into depression, but soon [[HeelFaceBrainwashing lost her memory of doing this thanks to Twilight]]. Eventually, Rarity is executed and she gets shunned and mocked by other to the point where she beats up a filly, [[JerkAss Diamond]] [[AssholeVictim Tiara]], that mocked her loss and even wished for her to be dead.]]
** Sweetie Belle is this to the extreme. [[spoiler:She finds out that her sister was a killer and she soon ends up [[AccidentalMurder accidentally killing Scarlet Tomato]] when she wanted to idolize Rarity. This led her into depression, but soon [[HeelFaceBrainwashing lost her memory of doing this thanks to Twilight]]. Eventually, Rarity is executed and she gets shunned and mocked by other to the point where she beats up a filly, [[JerkAss Diamond]] [[AssholeVictim Tiara]], that mocked her loss and even wished for her to be dead.]]
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* TheWoobie: Rarity... or at least, she is in the ''[[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/131045/a-shadow-hangs-overhead A Shadow Hangs Overhead]]'' sub-universe. Not only did she have to deal with the fact that she killed somepony, as a foal no less, but the police are going out of their way to make her miserable, and she's having a bad day to rival [[DeadmanWonderland Ganta Igarashi]]. To any non-DeadmanWonderland fans, by the way, that is not a statement one can make lightly.
** Sweetie Belle is this to the extreme. [[spoiler:She finds out that her sister was a killer and she soon ends up [[AccidentalMurder accidentally killing Scarlet Tomato]] when she wanted to idolize Rarity. This led her into depression, but soon [[HeelFaceBrainwashing lost her memory of doing this thanks to Twilight]]. Eventually, Rarity is executed and she gets shunned and mocked by other to the point where she beats up a filly, [[JerkAss Diamond]] [[AssholeVictim Tiara]], that mocked her loss and even wished for her to be dead.]]lightly.
** Sweetie Belle is this to the extreme. [[spoiler:She finds out that her sister was a killer and she soon ends up [[AccidentalMurder accidentally killing Scarlet Tomato]] when she wanted to idolize Rarity. This led her into depression, but soon [[HeelFaceBrainwashing lost her memory of doing this thanks to Twilight]]. Eventually, Rarity is executed and she gets shunned and mocked by other to the point where she beats up a filly, [[JerkAss Diamond]] [[AssholeVictim Tiara]], that mocked her loss and even wished for her to be dead.]]
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* TearJerker: In chapter one when Blossom first is given a room in the royal palace to live in, she finds a large stuffed pony and turns it into a doppelganger of her mother which she uses to make believe that her mother is holding her in her forelegs while she sleeps.
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** Sweetie Belle is this to the extreme. [[spoiler:She finds out that her sister was a killer and she soon ends up [[AccidentalMurder accidentally killing Scarlet Tomato when she wanted to idolize Rarity. This led her into depression, but soon [[HeelFaceBrainwashing lost her memory of doing this thanks to Twilight]]. Eventually, Rarity is executed and she gets shunned and mocked by other to the point where she beats up a filly, [[JerkAss Diamond]] [[AssholeVictim Tiara]], that mocked her loss and even wished for her to be dead.]]
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** Sweetie Belle is this to the extreme. [[spoiler:She finds out that her sister was a killer and she soon ends up [[AccidentalMurder accidentally killing Scarlet Tomato Tomato]] when she wanted to idolize Rarity. This led her into depression, but soon [[HeelFaceBrainwashing lost her memory of doing this thanks to Twilight]]. Eventually, Rarity is executed and she gets shunned and mocked by other to the point where she beats up a filly, [[JerkAss Diamond]] [[AssholeVictim Tiara]], that mocked her loss and even wished for her to be dead.]]
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* TheWoobie: Rarity... or at least, she is in the ''[[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/131045/a-shadow-hangs-overhead A Shadow Hangs Overhead]]'' sub-universe. Not only did she have to deal with the fact that she killed somepony, as a foal no less, but the police are going out of their way to make her miserable, and she's having a bad day to rival [[DeadmanWonderland Ganta Igarashi]]. To any non-DeadmanWonderland fans, by the way, that is not a statement one can make lightly.lightly.
** Sweetie Belle is this to the extreme. [[spoiler:She finds out that her sister was a killer and she soon ends up [[AccidentalMurder accidentally killing Scarlet Tomato when she wanted to idolize Rarity. This led her into depression, but soon [[HeelFaceBrainwashing lost her memory of doing this thanks to Twilight]]. Eventually, Rarity is executed and she gets shunned and mocked by other to the point where she beats up a filly, [[JerkAss Diamond]] [[AssholeVictim Tiara]], that mocked her loss and even wished for her to be dead.]]
** Sweetie Belle is this to the extreme. [[spoiler:She finds out that her sister was a killer and she soon ends up [[AccidentalMurder accidentally killing Scarlet Tomato when she wanted to idolize Rarity. This led her into depression, but soon [[HeelFaceBrainwashing lost her memory of doing this thanks to Twilight]]. Eventually, Rarity is executed and she gets shunned and mocked by other to the point where she beats up a filly, [[JerkAss Diamond]] [[AssholeVictim Tiara]], that mocked her loss and even wished for her to be dead.]]
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: [[spoiler:Is Princess Celestia really a righteous ruler that is trying to do the right thing, or is she a ruthless tyrant who has no problem with killing foals?]]
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** Some could say that [[spoiler:Princess Celestia]] crossed it either [[spoiler:when she executed an eight-year-old filly]] or [[spoiler:executed Rarity, knowing fully that she's the Element of Generosity]].
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** Some could say that [[spoiler:Princess Celestia]] crossed either [[spoiler:when she executed an eight-year-old filly]] or [[spoiler:executed Rarity, knowing fully that she's the Element of Generosity]].
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* IdiotPlot: ''The Word is Fear'', specifically: [[spoiler: Blossom's escape from custody relies on rather glaring holes in her security, not least the fact that her guard is conveniently carrying around the key to her horn-blocker when he has no reason to believe she'll ever be in a fit condition to have it removed. In addition, it also relies on the Princesses never making the choice to have her horn removed, which made sense ''at first'', when she was still reasonably lucid, (plus, it was her greatest fear because of what happened to her mother) - but after Blossom has proven herself a potential danger to herself and others, not so much.]]
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The writer's willingness to pile on one utterly devastating tragedy after another can get pretty draining, especially in cases where a happy or at least BittersweetEnding seems to be possible.
* IdiotPlot: ''The Word is Fear'', specifically: [[spoiler: Blossom's escape from custody relies on rather glaring holes in her security, not least the fact that her guard is conveniently carrying around the key to her horn-blocker when he has no reason to believe she'll ever be in a fit condition to have it removed. In addition, italso relies on the Princesses never making the choice to have her horn removed, which made sense ''at first'', when she was still reasonably lucid, (plus, it was her greatest fear because of what happened to her mother) - but after Blossom has proven herself a potential danger to herself and others, not so much.]]
* IdiotPlot: ''The Word is Fear'', specifically: [[spoiler: Blossom's escape from custody relies on rather glaring holes in her security, not least the fact that her guard is conveniently carrying around the key to her horn-blocker when he has no reason to believe she'll ever be in a fit condition to have it removed. In addition, it
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* MoralEventHorizon: In The Word is Fear, [[spoiler: Blossom killing Sweetie Belle (her own mother, who did nothing but try to protect her) is what get the princesses to treat her like an irredeemable monster.]]
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* MoralEventHorizon: In The ''The Word is Fear, Fear'', [[spoiler: Blossom killing Sweetie Belle (her own mother, who did nothing but try to protect her) is what get the princesses to treat her like an irredeemable monster.]]
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** To readers, [[spoiler: Blossom throwing away any possibility of rehabilitation when she gives in to Rarity's voice in her head and murders her psychiatrist (an arguable AssholeVictim, though not so much by that point) several guards and a janitor.]]
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** To readers, [[spoiler: Blossom throwing away any possibility of rehabilitation when she gives in to Rarity's voice in her head and murders her psychiatrist (an arguable AssholeVictim, though not so much by that point) several guards and a janitor.]]]]
* TheWoobie: Rarity... or at least, she is in the ''[[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/131045/a-shadow-hangs-overhead A Shadow Hangs Overhead]]'' sub-universe. Not only did she have to deal with the fact that she killed somepony, as a foal no less, but the police are going out of their way to make her miserable, and she's having a bad day to rival [[DeadmanWonderland Ganta Igarashi]]. To any non-DeadmanWonderland fans, by the way, that is not a statement one can make lightly.
* TheWoobie: Rarity... or at least, she is in the ''[[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/131045/a-shadow-hangs-overhead A Shadow Hangs Overhead]]'' sub-universe. Not only did she have to deal with the fact that she killed somepony, as a foal no less, but the police are going out of their way to make her miserable, and she's having a bad day to rival [[DeadmanWonderland Ganta Igarashi]]. To any non-DeadmanWonderland fans, by the way, that is not a statement one can make lightly.
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* MoralEventHorizon: In The Word is Fear, [[spoiler: Blossom killing Sweetie Belle (her own mother, who did nothing but try to protect her) is what get the princesses to treat her like an irredeemable monster.]]
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* MoralEventHorizon: In The Word is Fear, [[spoiler: Blossom killing Sweetie Belle (her own mother, who did nothing but try to protect her) is what get the princesses to treat her like an irredeemable monster.]]
** To readers, [[spoiler: Blossom throwing away any possibility of rehabilitation when she gives in to Rarity's voice in her head and murders her psychiatrist (an arguable AssholeVictim, though not so much by that point) several guards and a janitor.]]
** To readers, [[spoiler: Blossom throwing away any possibility of rehabilitation when she gives in to Rarity's voice in her head and murders her psychiatrist (an arguable AssholeVictim, though not so much by that point) several guards and a janitor.]]
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* MagnumOpus: Bronywriter considers this series to be his finest.
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* MoralEventHorizon: In The Word is Fear, [[spoiler: Blossom killing Sweetie Belle (her own mother, who did nothing but try to protect her) is what get the princesses to treat her like an irredeemable monster.]]
* MoralEventHorizon: In The Word is Fear, [[spoiler: Blossom killing Sweetie Belle (her own mother, who did nothing but try to protect her) is what get the princesses to treat her like an irredeemable monster.]]
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: Diamond Tiara becomes one in Public Life of Sweetie Belle when she helps her kid scar Blossom (with said act unwittingly leading to the deaths of her & Silver Spoon's daughters, and leading to Sweetie Belle being institutionalized. At least the kid doing so can be sort of justified (but not really) due to being a SpoiledBrat who isn't old enough to know what she's doing is wrong.]]
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: Diamond Tiara becomes one in Public Life of Sweetie Belle when she helps her kid scar Blossom (with said act unwittingly leading to the deaths of her & Silver Spoon's daughters, and leading to Sweetie Belle being institutionalized. At least the kid doing so can be sort of justified (but not really) due to being a SpoiledBrat who isn't old enough to know what she's doing is wrong.]]]]
* MagnumOpus: Bronywriter considers this series to be his finest.
* MagnumOpus: Bronywriter considers this series to be his finest.
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: Diamond Tiara becomes one in Public Life of Sweetie Belle when she helps her kid scar Blossom (with said act unwittingly leading to the deaths of her & Silver Spoon's daughters, and leading to Sweetie Belle being institutionalized. At least the kid doing so can be sort of justified (but not really) due to being a SpoiledBrat who isn't old enough to know what she's doing is wrong.]]
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: Diamond Tiara becomes one in Public Life of Sweetie Belle when she helps her kid scar Blossom (with said act unwittingly leading to the deaths of her & Silver Spoon's daughters, and leading to Sweetie Belle being institutionalized. At least the kid doing so can be sort of justified (but not really) due to being a SpoiledBrat who isn't old enough to know what she's doing is wrong.]]
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: Diamond Tiara becomes one in Public Life of Sweetie Belle when she helps her kid scar Blossom (with said act unwittingly leading to the deaths of her & Silver Spoon's daughters, and leading to Sweetie Belle being institutionalized. At least the kid doing so can be sort of justified (but not really) due to being a SpoiledBrat who isn't old enough to know what she's doing is wrong.]]
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: Diamond Tiara becomes one in Public Life of Sweetie Belle when she helps her kid scar Blossom (with said act unwittingly leading to the deaths of her & Silver Spoon's daughters, and leading to Sweetie Belle being institutionalized. At least the kid doing so can be sort of justified (but not really) due to being a SpoiledBrat who isn't old enough to know what she's doing is wrong.]]
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