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* FridgeBrilliance: Why is it Tony changes every time he goes into the mirror? As noted below, the real reason is because Heath Ledger died prior to completing the movie, [[spoiler:but there's an in-story justification as well: Tony's a liar and a con artist, so his appearance keeps changing to match the situation. Foreshadowed by the drunk in the beginning]].

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* FridgeBrilliance: Why is it Tony changes every time he goes into the mirror? As noted below, the real reason is because Heath Ledger Creator/HeathLedger died prior to completing the movie, [[spoiler:but there's an in-story justification as well: Tony's a liar and a con artist, so his appearance keeps changing to match the situation. Foreshadowed by the drunk in the beginning]].



* RetroactiveRecognition: Anton is the new [[{{SpiderMan}} Spider-Man]]!
* SoOKItsAverage: A rare positive example - several critics praised Gilliam for being able to salvage a good, if not great, movie despite Ledger's death, a situation where most directors would have given up... which in itself makes the movie a CrowningMomentOfAwesome for Gilliam.
* {{Squick}}: Despite sixteen being the age of consent in the UK, some viewers might be a tad uncomfortable with the much older Tony wooing [[spoiler:and eventually sleeping with]] a teenage girl. True, LilyCole was 21 at the time of filming, but the in-context cradle robbery is still intact.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: Anton is the new [[{{SpiderMan}} Spider-Man]]!
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* SoOKItsAverage: A rare positive example - several critics praised Gilliam for being able to salvage a good, if not great, movie despite Ledger's death, a situation where most directors would have given up... which in itself makes the movie a CrowningMomentOfAwesome for Gilliam.
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* {{Squick}}: Despite sixteen being the age of consent in the UK, some viewers might be a tad uncomfortable with the much older Tony wooing [[spoiler:and eventually sleeping with]] a teenage girl. True, LilyCole Creator/LilyCole was 21 at the time of filming, but the in-context cradle robbery is still intact.



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** A bit more subtle, but still there; the song "We Are The Children of the World" which is sung at [[spoiler: Tony's fundraiser near the end]] is a satirical slash at the song "Music/WeAreTheWorld", which was co-written and performed by music/MichaelJackson. This didn't come off as much in good taste given the pop star's death prior to the film's release. TheReveal doesn't help, since [[spoiler: Jackson's charity work may have covered monstrous activities too]].

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** A bit more subtle, but still there; the song "We Are The Children of the World" which is sung at [[spoiler: Tony's fundraiser near the end]] is a satirical slash at the song "Music/WeAreTheWorld", which was co-written and performed by music/MichaelJackson.Music/MichaelJackson. This didn't come off as much in good taste given the pop star's death prior to the film's release. TheReveal doesn't help, since [[spoiler: Jackson's charity work may have covered monstrous activities too]].



* NightmareFuel: [[TomWaits Tom Waits]]'s computer-animated face on a giant computer-animated cobra. Pleasant dreams.

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* NightmareFuel: [[TomWaits Tom Waits]]'s Music/TomWaits 's computer-animated face on a giant computer-animated cobra. Pleasant dreams.
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: Tony sells the organs of children on the Black Market]]. It says a lot that {{Satan}} himself [[EvenEvilHasStandards is disgusted]].
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: Tony sells the organs of children on the Black Market]]. It says a lot that {{Satan}} himself [[EvilEvilHasStandards is disgusted]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: Tony sells the organs of children on the Black Market]]. It says a lot that {{Satan}} himself [[EvilEvilHasStandards [[EvenEvilHasStandards is disgusted]].
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: Tony sells the organs of children on the Black Market]]. It says a lot that {{Satan}} himself [[EvilEvilHasStandards is disgusted]].
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** A bit more subtle, but still there; the song "We Are The Children of the World" which is sung at [[spoiler: Tony's fundraiser near the end]] is a satirical slash at the song "WeAreTheWorld", which was co-written and performed by MichaelJackson. This didn't come off as much in good taste given the pop star's death prior to the film's release. TheReveal doesn't help, since [[spoiler: Jackson's charity work may have covered monstrous activities too]].

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** A bit more subtle, but still there; the song "We Are The Children of the World" which is sung at [[spoiler: Tony's fundraiser near the end]] is a satirical slash at the song "WeAreTheWorld", "Music/WeAreTheWorld", which was co-written and performed by MichaelJackson.music/MichaelJackson. This didn't come off as much in good taste given the pop star's death prior to the film's release. TheReveal doesn't help, since [[spoiler: Jackson's charity work may have covered monstrous activities too]].
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* HilariousInHindsight: The future Spider-Man struggles to swing under a bridge to rescue somebody.
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:''Tony'', surprisingly, is revealed to be one at the end.]]
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* SoOKItsAverage: A rare positive example - several critics praised Gilliam for being able to salvage a good, if not great, movie despite Ledger's death, a situation where most directors would have given up... which in itself makes the movie a CrowningMomentOfAwesome for Gilliam.
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** A bit more subtle, but still there; the song "We Are The Children of the World" which is sung at [[spoiler: Tony's fundraiser near the end]] is a satirical slash at the song "WeAreTheWorld", which was co-written and performed by MichaelJackson. This didn't come off as much in good taste given the pop star's death prior to the film's release. TheReveal that [[spoiler: Tony was selling the organs of third world children on the black market]] doesn't help matters, since [[spoiler: Jackson's charity work may or may not have covered rephrehensible activities of his own]].

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** A bit more subtle, but still there; the song "We Are The Children of the World" which is sung at [[spoiler: Tony's fundraiser near the end]] is a satirical slash at the song "WeAreTheWorld", which was co-written and performed by MichaelJackson. This didn't come off as much in good taste given the pop star's death prior to the film's release. TheReveal that [[spoiler: Tony was selling the organs of third world children on the black market]] doesn't help matters, help, since [[spoiler: Jackson's charity work may or may not have covered rephrehensible monstrous activities of his own]].too]].
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** A bit more subtle, but still there; the song "We Are The Children of the World" which is sung at [[spoiler: Tony's fundraiser near the end]] is a satirical slash at the song "WeAreTheWorld", which was co-written and performed by MichaelJackson. This didn't come off as much in good taste given the pop star's death prior to the film's release...

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** A bit more subtle, but still there; the song "We Are The Children of the World" which is sung at [[spoiler: Tony's fundraiser near the end]] is a satirical slash at the song "WeAreTheWorld", which was co-written and performed by MichaelJackson. This didn't come off as much in good taste given the pop star's death prior to the film's release...release. TheReveal that [[spoiler: Tony was selling the organs of third world children on the black market]] doesn't help matters, since [[spoiler: Jackson's charity work may or may not have covered rephrehensible activities of his own]].



* MarySue: Arguably, Tony, but [[spoiler: deconstructed once his back-story appears.]]
* MisaimedFandom: The song "Children of the World" was Gilliam's stab and parody at Michael Jackson's song, but eventually won an award to Gilliam's chagrin.

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* MarySue: Arguably, Tony, but [[spoiler: deconstructed once his back-story appears.]]
appears]].
* MisaimedFandom: The song "Children of the World" was Gilliam's stab and parody at Michael Jackson's song, song "We Are the World", but eventually won an award to Gilliam's chagrin.



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* [[spoiler:Complete Monster]]: ''Tony'', surprisingly.

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* [[spoiler:Complete Monster]]: ''Tony'', surprisingly.CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:''Tony'', surprisingly, is revealed to be one at the end.]]
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* {{Squick}}: Despite sixteen being the age of consent in the UK, some viewers might be a tad uncomfortable with the much older Tony wooing [[spoiler:and eventually sleeping with]] a teenage girl. True, Lily Cole was 21 at the time of filming, but the in-context cradle robbery is still intact.

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* {{Squick}}: Despite sixteen being the age of consent in the UK, some viewers might be a tad uncomfortable with the much older Tony wooing [[spoiler:and eventually sleeping with]] a teenage girl. True, Lily Cole LilyCole was 21 at the time of filming, but the in-context cradle robbery is still intact.
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* [[spoiler:CompleteMonster]]: ''Tony'', surprisingly.

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* [[spoiler:CompleteMonster]]: [[spoiler:Complete Monster]]: ''Tony'', surprisingly.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: Just look at the trailer, or the poster.
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* [[spoiler:Complete Monster]]: ''Tony'', surprisingly.

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* [[spoiler:Complete Monster]]: [[spoiler:CompleteMonster]]: ''Tony'', surprisingly.
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* MarySue: Arguably, Tony, but [[spoiler: deconstructed [[CompleteMonster once his back-story appears]].]]

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* MarySue: Arguably, Tony, but [[spoiler: deconstructed [[CompleteMonster once his back-story appears]].appears.]]



* {{Squick}}: Despite sixteen being the age of consent in the UK, some viewers might be a tad uncomfortable with the much older Tony wooing [[spoiler:and eventually sleeping with]] a teenage girl. True, Lily Cole was 21 at the time of filming, but the in-context cradle robbery is still intact.

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* {{Squick}}: Despite sixteen being the age of consent in the UK, some viewers might be a tad uncomfortable with the much older Tony wooing [[spoiler:and eventually sleeping with]] a teenage girl. True, Lily Cole was 21 at the time of filming, but the in-context cradle robbery is still intact.
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** A bit more subtle, but still there; the song "We Are The Children of the World" which is sung at [[spoiler: Tony's fundraiser near the end]] is a satirical slash at the MichaelJackson song "We Are The World". This didn't come off as much in good taste given the pop star's death earlier that year...

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** A bit more subtle, but still there; the song "We Are The Children of the World" which is sung at [[spoiler: Tony's fundraiser near the end]] is a satirical slash at the MichaelJackson song "We Are The World". "WeAreTheWorld", which was co-written and performed by MichaelJackson. This didn't come off as much in good taste given the pop star's death earlier that year...prior to the film's release...



-->"Don't believe everything you read. Especially The Mirror."
* HarsherInHindsight: The first time we see Heath, he's pretending to be dead. While he never actually dies on screen [[spoiler: his character does.]]

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-->"Don't believe everything you read. Especially The Mirror.''The Mirror''."
* HarsherInHindsight: The first time we see Heath, he's pretending to be dead. While he never actually dies on screen [[spoiler: his character does.]]does]].
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* [[spoiler:CompleteMonster]]: ''Tony'', surprisingly.

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* [[spoiler:CompleteMonster]]: [[spoiler:Complete Monster]]: ''Tony'', surprisingly.
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* FridgeBrilliance: Why is it Tony changes every time he goes into the mirror? As noted below, the real reason is because Heath Ledger died prior to completing the movie, [[spoiler:but there's an in-story justification as well: Tony's a liar and a con artist, so his appearance keeps changing to match the situation. Foreshadowed by the drunk in the beginning.]]
* FridgeHorror: Valentina [[spoiler:has sex with Tony in the Imaginarium -- which is "facilitated" by Dr. Parnassus. He doesn't seem to always know what happens inside the Imaginarium, but it's still squicky. Basically, she has sex ''inside her father's head''.]]

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* FridgeBrilliance: Why is it Tony changes every time he goes into the mirror? As noted below, the real reason is because Heath Ledger died prior to completing the movie, [[spoiler:but there's an in-story justification as well: Tony's a liar and a con artist, so his appearance keeps changing to match the situation. Foreshadowed by the drunk in the beginning.]]
beginning]].
* FridgeHorror: Valentina [[spoiler:has sex with Tony in the Imaginarium -- which is "facilitated" by Dr. Parnassus. He doesn't seem to always know what happens inside the Imaginarium, but it's still squicky. Basically, she has sex ''inside her father's head''.]]head'']].

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* [[spoiler:CompleteMonster:]] ''Tony'', surprisingly.

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* [[spoiler:CompleteMonster:]] [[spoiler:CompleteMonster]]: ''Tony'', surprisingly.surprisingly.
* FridgeBrilliance: Why is it Tony changes every time he goes into the mirror? As noted below, the real reason is because Heath Ledger died prior to completing the movie, [[spoiler:but there's an in-story justification as well: Tony's a liar and a con artist, so his appearance keeps changing to match the situation. Foreshadowed by the drunk in the beginning.]]
* FridgeHorror: Valentina [[spoiler:has sex with Tony in the Imaginarium -- which is "facilitated" by Dr. Parnassus. He doesn't seem to always know what happens inside the Imaginarium, but it's still squicky. Basically, she has sex ''inside her father's head''.]]
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* GreenEyedMonster: Anton, from the moment Tony woke up, started treating him like a leper because of how more talented he was with the crowd and how Valentina was attracted to him. And that was all [[spoiler: before he actually got proof of Tony's CompleteMonster status]]. He is so jealous he [[NotWhatItLooksLike acts like a rapist]] to get a client Tony had already convinced and nearly destroys the show and get them arrested for it, then uses the reveal of [[spoiler: Tony getting a loan from the Russians]] immediately as "ultimate proof" of how Tony "tainted" the show, even though Tony had no obligation helping them.. Heck, he even tries stealing Tony's cell phone when it started ringing, for no good reason!
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Moving Heartwarming to Heartwarming.


* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[TheNthDoctor The three replacement Tonys]] gave their salaries to a trust fund for Ledger's daughter, Matilda, due to Ledger's will having been written before she was born.
** Also, the cast got tattoos of hearts on their hands in memory of Heath Ledger and there's a point in the movie where you can see the tattoo on Lily Cole's wrist.
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* {{Squick}}: Despite sixteen being the age of consent in the UK, some viewers might be a tad uncomfortable with the much older Tony wooing [[spoiler:and eventually sleeping with]] a teenage girl. True, Lily Cole was 21 at the time of filming, but the in-context cradle robbery is still intact.
** Unless you read alot of romantic or sexual fanfic for certain fandoms or ship certain characters in certain fandoms. Then it's normal or even less taboo then you're used to.

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* {{Squick}}: Despite sixteen being the age of consent in the UK, some viewers might be a tad uncomfortable with the much older Tony wooing [[spoiler:and eventually sleeping with]] a teenage girl. True, Lily Cole was 21 at the time of filming, but the in-context cradle robbery is still intact.
** Unless you read alot of romantic or sexual fanfic for certain fandoms or ship certain characters in certain fandoms. Then it's normal or even less taboo then you're used to.
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* [[spoiler:CompleteMonster:]] ''Tony'', surprisingly.


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* MarySue: Arguably, Tony, but [[spoiler: deconstructed [[CompleteMonster once his back-story appears]].]]
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* GreenEyedMonster: Anton, from the moment Tony woke up, started treating him like a leper because of how more talented he was with the crowd and how Valentina was attracted to him. And that was all [[spoiler: before he actually got proof of Tony's CompleteMonster status]]. He is so jealous he [[NotWhatItLooksLike acts like a rapist]] to get a client Tony had already convinced and nearly destroys the show and get them arrested for it, then uses the reveal of [[spoiler: Tony getting a loan from the Russians]] immediately as "ultimate proof" of how Tony "tainted" the show, even though Tony had no obligation helping them.. Heck, he even tries stealing Tony's cell phone when it started ringing, for no good reason!
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* MagnificentBastard: Mr. Nick naturally, being Satan.
** Say whatever you like about Tony Shepherd but the man certainly knows how to swing a crowd!
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* MisaimedFandom: The song "Children of the World" was Gillium's stab and parody at Michael Jackson's song, but eventually won an award to Gillium's chagrin.

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* MisaimedFandom: The song "Children of the World" was Gillium's Gilliam's stab and parody at Michael Jackson's song, but eventually won an award to Gillium's Gilliam's chagrin.

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