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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Quasi slumps down in chains when Frollo is about to burn Esmeralda, then slowly looks up. As Frollo sets the fire, Quasi let's out a tremendous "NOOOOO!" proceeding to break the chains, save the girl, and kick some a***!
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: ''Clopin'' -- he seems very happy and nice, but he does call Quasi the ugliest person in Paris in a way that even the context can't completely excuse, apparently bugs out the second everything goes pear-shaped (as Frollo would likely want to arrest him for the confusion), and then ''expresses complete delight in hanging Quasi and Phoebus''. Without giving them the chance to defend themselves in any way. Of course, he's also protecting his home, friends, and family from the most monstrous person in the country by silencing what he believes to be the man's most loyal suboordinates...
** In that last one, he had no idea about anything Quasi or Phoebus had done or gone through in the movie; he was pretty damn sure, along with the rest of the gypsies, that they were...oh, how did they put it...
--->'''Clopin:''' A couple of Frollo's spies!
** In that last one, he had no idea about anything Quasi or Phoebus had done or gone through in the movie; he was pretty damn sure, along with the rest of the gypsies, that they were...oh, how did they put it...
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** Let's see: first he crosses the MoralEventHorizon in the ''first five minutes of the film'' by attempting to drown Quasimodo after killing the his mother on the steps of the cathedral. Then he is shown to be quite obviously emotionally abusive to Quasimodo; on top of that, he's downright genocidal, seems to take delight in torturing his own soldiers, deliberately attempts to burn an innocent family alive in their home ''and'' has an unhealthy and dangerous sexual obsession with Esmeralda. (Ohhh, the hair smelling. * Shudders.* ) Oh, and then he burns down most of a major city because the girl won't have sex with him. And yet the fans have bought him a pair of [[DracoInLeatherPants leather pants]].
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** Let's see: first he crosses the MoralEventHorizon in the ''first five minutes of the film'' by attempting to drown Quasimodo after killing the his mother on the steps of the cathedral. Then he is shown to be quite obviously emotionally abusive to Quasimodo; on top of that, he's downright genocidal, seems to take delight in torturing his own soldiers, deliberately attempts to burn an innocent family alive in their home ''and'' has an unhealthy and dangerous sexual obsession with Esmeralda. (Ohhh, the hair smelling. * Shudders.* ) *shudders*) Oh, and then he burns down most of a major city because the girl won't have sex with him. And yet the fans have bought him a pair of [[DracoInLeatherPants leather pants]].
* GeniusBonus: Considering what the [[FrenchRevolution French]] usually do to their [[OffWithHisHead royalty]] most history buffs aren't surprised when the crowd attack Quasi after he's crowned King Of Fools.
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* NightmareFuel: The VillainSong, "Hellfire"."Hellfire."
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---> I knew I'd never know/ that warm and loving glow/ though I might wish with all my might/ no face as hideous as my face/ was ever meant for heaven's light!
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: "SANCTUARY! SANCTUARY! SANCTUARY!!!!"
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** This happens the most to Quasimodo and Frollo. In the book, Quasimodo is rather mean and hates most people. In the films, he is usually put in a more sympathetic light. The exact opposite usually happens to Frollo. In his book form, he is, for the most part, benevolent but sexually frustrated. While he is an antagonist, he is also often considered a tragic anti-hero. However, in the films he is usually made into an all-out evil, sexually depraved monster.
** Phoebus gets this treatment as well. In the 1923 and Disney adaptation he is put in the role of a pure love interest for Esmeralda. However, in the book he was kind of a jerk, who was just interested in her for sex.
* DieForOurShip: Frollo/Esmeralda fans of any of the adaptations are eager to kill off Phoebus for the sake of this ''impossible'' ship. Then again, even if you ''don't'' support this ship, almost every Hunchback fan would gladly see Phoebus die (discounting the Disney version, where Phoebus is actually damn awesome).
* ValuesDissonance:
** Sexual obsession in a priest? Bad, wrong, dangerous. Sexual obsession of a man in his thirties for a sixteen-year-old girl? No prob.
** Also, this is not an anti-racist story. The Parisians' mistreatment of Esmeralda is treated as literary irony: they're wrong to treat her as they do, ''because she's really one of them.'' Their treatment of real "Gypsies" is completely excusable: it's clearly established that "Gypsies" ''really are'' dangerous -- thieves and con artists who will readily steal children. If you think Victor Hugo loved gypsies and was protesting their mistreatment, go and read ''TheManWhoLaughs''.
!! ThisYMMV section refers to [[Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame the Disney version]], NOT to the original version. (Though it's not entirely devoid of comparisons TO the original version.)
version]].
* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** This happens the most to Quasimodo and Frollo. In the book, Quasimodo is rather mean and hates most people. In the films, he is usually put in a more sympathetic light. The exact opposite usually happens to Frollo. In his book form, he is, for the most part, benevolent but sexually frustrated. While he is an antagonist, he is also often considered a tragic anti-hero. However, in the films he is usually made into an all-out evil, sexually depraved monster.
** Phoebus gets this treatment as well. In the 1923 and Disney adaptation he is put in the role of a pure love interest for Esmeralda. However, in the book he was kind of a jerk, who was just interested in her for sex.
* DieForOurShip: Frollo/Esmeralda fans of any of the adaptations are eager to kill off Phoebus for the sake of this ''impossible'' ship. Then again, even if you ''don't'' support this ship, almost every Hunchback fan would gladly see Phoebus die (discounting the Disney version, where Phoebus is actually damn awesome).
* ValuesDissonance:
** Sexual obsession in a priest? Bad, wrong, dangerous. Sexual obsession of a man in his thirties for a sixteen-year-old girl? No prob.
** Also, this is not an anti-racist story. The Parisians' mistreatment of Esmeralda is treated as literary irony: they're wrong to treat her as they do, ''because she's really one of them.'' Their treatment of real "Gypsies" is completely excusable: it's clearly established that "Gypsies" ''really are'' dangerous -- thieves and con artists who will readily steal children. If you think Victor Hugo loved gypsies and was protesting their mistreatment, go and read ''TheManWhoLaughs''.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** This happens the most to Quasimodo and Frollo. In the book, Quasimodo is rather mean and hates most people. In the films, he is usually put in a more sympathetic light. The exact opposite usually happens to Frollo. In his book form, he is, for the most part, benevolent but sexually frustrated. While he is an antagonist, he is also often considered a tragic anti-hero. However, in the films he is usually made into an all-out evil, sexually depraved monster.
** Phoebus gets this treatment as well. In the 1923 and Disney adaptation he is put in the role of a pure love interest for Esmeralda. However, in the book he was kind of a jerk, who was just interested in her for sex.
* DieForOurShip: Frollo/Esmeralda fans of any of the adaptations are eager to kill off Phoebus for the sake of this ''impossible'' ship. Then again, even if you ''don't'' support this ship, almost every Hunchback fan would gladly see Phoebus die (discounting the Disney version, where Phoebus is actually damn awesome).
* ValuesDissonance:
** Sexual obsession in a priest? Bad, wrong, dangerous. Sexual obsession of a man in his thirties for a sixteen-year-old girl? No prob.
** Also, this is not an anti-racist story. The Parisians' mistreatment of Esmeralda is treated as literary irony: they're wrong to treat her as they do, ''because she's really one of them.'' Their treatment of real "Gypsies" is completely excusable: it's clearly established that "Gypsies" ''really are'' dangerous -- thieves and con artists who will readily steal children. If you think Victor Hugo loved gypsies and was protesting their mistreatment, go and read ''TheManWhoLaughs''.
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** While "Sanctuary" is about four different kinds of incredible (literally, it's a four part piece), and Hellfire is without a doubt, the best villain song ever included in a Disney movie (if not any film), the real crowner here is without a doubt, "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEEpavnk7Uw God Help The Outcasts]]." This troper has seen the film dozens of times, and listened to this individual track countless times more, there has ''never'' been a time that this song has failed to bring tears to this troper's eyes. The music is incredible, but the lyrics deserve special mention, as they are a deconstruction of the typical Disney IWantSong, in that a Gypsy who doesn't even believe in God (I don't know if you can hear me, or if you're even there) is offering to God a more humble prayer than the Catholics there who are asking for money, fame, and glory, whereas Esmeralda simply says "I ask for nothing; I can get by. But I know so many less lucky than I."
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** While "Sanctuary" is about four different kinds of incredible (literally, it's a four part piece), and Hellfire is without a doubt, the best villain song ever included in a Disney movie (if not any film), the real crowner here is without a doubt, "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEEpavnk7Uw God Help The Outcasts]]." This troper has seen the film dozens of times, and listened to this individual track countless times more, there has ''never'' been a time that this song has failed to bring tears to this troper's eyes. The music is incredible, but the lyrics deserve special mention, as they are a deconstruction of the typical Disney IWantSong, in that a Gypsy who doesn't even believe believe, or doubts, in God (I ("I don't know if you can hear me, or if you're even there) there") is offering to God a more humble prayer than the Catholics there who are asking for money, fame, and glory, whereas Esmeralda simply says "I ask for nothing; I can get by. But I know so many less lucky than I.""
*** Equally heartwarming in the original movie the animated film was based on when Esmeralda pretty much gives the same prayer when she is introduced to Mary and Jesus.
*** Equally heartwarming in the original movie the animated film was based on when Esmeralda pretty much gives the same prayer when she is introduced to Mary and Jesus.
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* AdaptationDecay: {{Understatement}}. Ranging from Frollo being a judge rather than the archdeacon, Phoebus being a genuinely heroic character rather than the {{Jerkass}} he was in the novel and the overall story and plot structure being changed completely. The film is based quite strongly (in plot and events) on the 1939 film version, which is also one of the furthest from the book. With that said, it is still generally [[TropesAreNotBad considered an enjoyable movie]], and several [[TheMockbuster Mock Busters]] of this film [[TakeOurWordForIt made this film the most accurate adaption to the book in comparison.]]
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* UglyCute: Quasimodo, who's Ugly ''Adorable''.
* UnfortunateImplications: Quasimodo's parents were Gypsies right? Except that Gypsies are generally dark-skinned and dark-haired while Quasimodo is a fair-skinned redhead. The Gypsies are however notorious thieves, so that leaves only one conclusion: she stole that baby!
** Which Frollo calls them out on at the start. [[FridgeLogic He's right.]]
* ViewerGenderConfusion: The gargoyle, Laverne, has no TertiarySexualCharacteristics and a voice actress (Mary Wickes) with a husky voice. Although she has an obviously feminine name, it's only mentioned once in the film.
** [[GenderBlenderName Laverne can be a guy's name, too]].
* UnfortunateImplications: Quasimodo's parents were Gypsies right? Except that Gypsies are generally dark-skinned and dark-haired while Quasimodo is a fair-skinned redhead. The Gypsies are however notorious thieves, so that leaves only one conclusion: she stole that baby!
** Which Frollo calls them out on at the start. [[FridgeLogic He's right.]]
* ViewerGenderConfusion: The gargoyle, Laverne, has no TertiarySexualCharacteristics and a voice actress (Mary Wickes) with a husky voice. Although she has an obviously feminine name, it's only mentioned once in the film.
** [[GenderBlenderName Laverne can be a guy's name, too]].
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* DieForOurShip: Frollo/Esmeralda fans of any of the adaptations are eager to kill off Phoebus for the sake of this ''impossible'' ship. Then again, even if you ''don't'' support this ship, almost every Hunchback fan would gladly see Phoebus die (discounting the Disney version, where Phoebus is actually damn awesome).
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** This happens the most to Quasimodo and Frollo. In the book, Quasimodo is rather mean and hates most people. In the films, he is usually put in a more sympathetic light. The exact opposite usually happens to Frollo. In his book form, he is, for the most part, benevolent but sexually frustrated. While he is an antagonist, he is also often considered a tragic anti-hero. However, in the films he is usually made into an all-out evil, sexually depraved monster.
** Phoebus gets this treatment as well. In the 1923 and Disney adaptation he is put in the role of a pure love interest for Esmeralda. However, in the book he was kind of a jerk, who was just interested in her for sex.
** This happens the most to Quasimodo and Frollo. In the book, Quasimodo is rather mean and hates most people. In the films, he is usually put in a more sympathetic light. The exact opposite usually happens to Frollo. In his book form, he is, for the most part, benevolent but sexually frustrated. While he is an antagonist, he is also often considered a tragic anti-hero. However, in the films he is usually made into an all-out evil, sexually depraved monster.
** Phoebus gets this treatment as well. In the 1923 and Disney adaptation he is put in the role of a pure love interest for Esmeralda. However, in the book he was kind of a jerk, who was just interested in her for sex.
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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Notre Dame, and the Frollo's image of Esmarelda dancing in the flames in the Hellfire song. It is mentioned in the commentry that the special effects team gave their best in that scene.
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!!This section refers to the Original version.
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* ValuesDissonance:
** Sexual obsession in a priest? Bad, wrong, dangerous. Sexual obsession of a man in his thirties for a sixteen-year-old girl? No prob.
** Also, this is not an anti-racist story. The Parisians' mistreatment of Esmeralda is treated as literary irony: they're wrong to treat her as they do, ''because she's really one of them.'' Their treatment of real "Gypsies" is completely excusable: it's clearly established that "Gypsies" ''really are'' dangerous -- thieves and con artists who will readily steal children. If you think Victor Hugo loved gypsies and was protesting their mistreatment, go and read ''TheManWhoLaughs''.
** Sexual obsession in a priest? Bad, wrong, dangerous. Sexual obsession of a man in his thirties for a sixteen-year-old girl? No prob.
** Also, this is not an anti-racist story. The Parisians' mistreatment of Esmeralda is treated as literary irony: they're wrong to treat her as they do, ''because she's really one of them.'' Their treatment of real "Gypsies" is completely excusable: it's clearly established that "Gypsies" ''really are'' dangerous -- thieves and con artists who will readily steal children. If you think Victor Hugo loved gypsies and was protesting their mistreatment, go and read ''TheManWhoLaughs''.
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* SuperlativeDubbing: The European Spanish version got Constantino Romero, James Earl Jones' usual stand-in, to voice Judge Frollo. That's right, [[StarWars Darth Vader]] is Judge Frollo.
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* {{Sequelitis}}: And how. The first film had gorgeous animation, dealt with some pretty heavy themes for a Disney movie, and had very good music. The sequel dispensed with all of these in favor of a LighterAndSofter approach that shoehorned in a boring love interest for Quasimodo, an annoying child for Phoebus and Esmerelda, and very lame villain. [[MoneyDearBoy Why Kevin Kline, Tom Hulce and Demi Moore stuck around for it is a mystery for the ages.]]
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* {{Sequelitis}}: And how. The first film had gorgeous animation, dealt with some pretty heavy themes for a Disney movie, and had very good music. The sequel dispensed with all of these in favor of an even LighterAndSofter approach that shoehorned in an undeveloped and boring love interest for Quasimodo. [[MoneyDearBoy Why Kevin Kline, Tom Hulce and Demi Moore stuck around for it is a mystery for the ages.]]
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* {{Sequelitis}}: And how. The first film had gorgeous animation, dealt with some pretty heavy themes for a Disney movie, and had very good music. The sequel dispensed with all of these in favor of an even a LighterAndSofter approach that shoehorned in an undeveloped and a boring love interest for Quasimodo.Quasimodo, an annoying child for Phoebus and Esmerelda, and very lame villain. [[MoneyDearBoy Why Kevin Kline, Tom Hulce and Demi Moore stuck around for it is a mystery for the ages.]]
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* TheScrappy: Nobody seems to like the gargoyles, mostly due to their contribution of the LighterAndSofter tone of the film.
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* TheScrappy: Nobody seems to like the gargoyles, gargoyles (unless you're a Jason Alexander fan), mostly due to their contribution of the LighterAndSofter tone of the film.
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** It's also rather ironic given that in the book, he's actually more sympathetic, since he didn't kill any woman and actually took in an abandoned baby, Quasimodo, out of the kindness of his heart, not to mention he had a brother who he supported through a fief. Granted, he does [[JumpedOffTheSlipperySlope become quite evil and mad]] as time goes on, but he didn't reach the level of evil his Disney counterpart does.
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** It's also rather ironic given that in the book, he's actually [[AntiVillain more sympathetic, sympathetic]], since he didn't kill any woman and actually took in an abandoned baby, Quasimodo, out of the kindness of his heart, not to mention he had a brother who he supported through a fief. Granted, he does [[JumpedOffTheSlipperySlope become quite evil and mad]] as time goes on, but he didn't reach the level of evil his Disney counterpart does.
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** This troper is of the opinion that "Heaven's Light" is the sweetest, most perfect love song ever written. Anyone who has ever been unpopular or different knows that feeling when someone notices you, even for a moment, and this song perfectly captures that feeling: ''knowing'' that they'll probably never love you back, but for the moment, you can dream.
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** This troper is of the opinion that "Heaven's Light" is the sweetest, most perfect love song ever written. Anyone who has ever been unpopular or different knows that feeling when someone notices you, even for a moment, and this song perfectly captures that feeling: ''knowing'' that they'll probably never love you back, but for the moment, you can dream.hope, just a little.
---> I dare to dream that she/Might even care for me/And as I ring these bells tonight/My cold dark tower seems so bright,/I swear it must be heaven's light!
---> I dare to dream that she/Might even care for me/And as I ring these bells tonight/My cold dark tower seems so bright,/I swear it must be heaven's light!
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** This troper is of the opinion that "Heaven's Light" is the sweetest, most perfect love song ever written. Anyone who has ever been unpopular or different knows that feeling when someone notices you, even for a moment, and this song perfectly captures that feeling: ''knowing'' that they'll probably never love you back, but for the moment, you can dream.
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** Clopin: ChaoticNeutral or ChaoticGood: (both the narrator and a major in-movie character, his role in the movie does not seem clearly heroic or villainous... and then we see the battle sequence to the end where he turns out to have a more so heroic role]])
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** Clopin: ChaoticNeutral to ChaoticEvil to ChaoticGood (both the narrator and a major in-movie character, his role in the movie does not seem clearly heroic or villainous... then we see the Court Of Miracles sequence where he could be interpreted as a villain... and then [[DoubleSubversion we see the battle sequence to the end where he turns out to have a more so heroic role]])
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** Clopin: ChaoticNeutral to ChaoticEvil to ChaoticGood or ChaoticGood: (both the narrator and a major in-movie character, his role in the movie does not seem clearly heroic or villainous... then we see the Court Of Miracles sequence where he could be interpreted as a villain... and then [[DoubleSubversion then we see the battle sequence to the end where he turns out to have a more so heroic role]])
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: It's a great score, but [[VillainSong "Hellfire"]] and the instrumental track "Sanctuary" take the cake. "Made of Stone" from the stage version certainly counts as well.
** And out there, living in the sun...
** ''Sing the bells, bells, bells, bells, bells, bells, bells, bells, '''BELLS OF NOTRE DAME!!!''' ''
*** Pay attention, dear listener, to Clopin's voice toward the end of that song (particularly in its first iteration). God knows why they decided to practically drown it out with the chorus, but the man holds an absurdly high note perfectly for an absurdly long time.
** While "Sanctuary" is about four different kinds of incredible (literally, it's a four part piece), and Hellfire is without a doubt, the best villain song ever included in a Disney movie (if not any film), the real crowner here is without a doubt, "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEEpavnk7Uw God Help The Outcasts]]." This troper has seen the film dozens of times, and listened to this individual track countless times more, there has ''never'' been a time that this song has failed to bring tears to this troper's eyes. The music is incredible, but the lyrics deserve special mention, as they are a deconstruction of the typical Disney IWantSong, in that a Gypsy who doesn't even believe in God (I don't know if you can hear me, or if you're even there) is offering to God a more humble prayer than the Catholics there who are asking for money, fame, and glory, whereas Esmeralda simply says "I ask for nothing; I can get by. But I know so many less lucky than I."
** And out there, living in the sun...
** ''Sing the bells, bells, bells, bells, bells, bells, bells, bells, '''BELLS OF NOTRE DAME!!!''' ''
*** Pay attention, dear listener, to Clopin's voice toward the end of that song (particularly in its first iteration). God knows why they decided to practically drown it out with the chorus, but the man holds an absurdly high note perfectly for an absurdly long time.
** While "Sanctuary" is about four different kinds of incredible (literally, it's a four part piece), and Hellfire is without a doubt, the best villain song ever included in a Disney movie (if not any film), the real crowner here is without a doubt, "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEEpavnk7Uw God Help The Outcasts]]." This troper has seen the film dozens of times, and listened to this individual track countless times more, there has ''never'' been a time that this song has failed to bring tears to this troper's eyes. The music is incredible, but the lyrics deserve special mention, as they are a deconstruction of the typical Disney IWantSong, in that a Gypsy who doesn't even believe in God (I don't know if you can hear me, or if you're even there) is offering to God a more humble prayer than the Catholics there who are asking for money, fame, and glory, whereas Esmeralda simply says "I ask for nothing; I can get by. But I know so many less lucky than I."
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* FetishFuelStationAttendant: A [[DoesNotLikeShoes barefoot]], [[AmbiguouslyBrown darkskinned]], [[HotGypsyWoman gypsy dancer]]. Guess who.
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* CharacterAlignment: See [[http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1127/hondalignment.jpg this chart.]] Note that LawfulNeutral, TrueNeutral, NeutralEvil, and ChaoticEvil are blacked out; this is because [[CompleteMonster Frollo]] has the law on his side, making the more lawful characters decide between [[MyMasterRightOrWrong obeying Frollo]] or [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight defying him]], and because comparably evil characters of a less lawful variety aren't presented by the story.
** Quasimodo: NeutralGood (not completely obedient, of course, but certainly not as rebellious as Esmeralda)
** Frollo: LawfulEvil (primarily of the "abuse the authority he lawfully has" variety; which may be NeutralEvil if you don't regard that at truly lawful.)
** Esmeralda: ChaoticGood (easily both one of the kindest AND one of the most openly rebellious characters in the movie)
** Quasimodo: NeutralGood (not completely obedient, of course, but certainly not as rebellious as Esmeralda)
** Frollo: LawfulEvil (primarily of the "abuse the authority he lawfully has" variety; which may be NeutralEvil if you don't regard that at truly lawful.)
** Esmeralda: ChaoticGood (easily both one of the kindest AND one of the most openly rebellious characters in the movie)
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** Quasimodo: NeutralGood (not completely obedient, of course, but certainly not as rebellious as
** Frollo: LawfulEvil (primarily of the "abuse the authority he lawfully has"
** Esmeralda: ChaoticGood (easily both one of the kindest AND one of the most openly rebellious characters in the
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** Let's see: first he crosses the MoralEventHorizon in the ''first five minutes of the film'' by attempting to drown [[spoiler: Quasimodo]] after killing the his mother on the steps of the cathedral. Then he is shown to be quite obviously emotionally abusive to Quasimodo; on top of that, he's downright genocidal, seems to take delight in torturing his own soldiers, deliberately attempts to burn an innocent family alive in their home, ''and'' has an unhealthy and dangerous sexual obsession with Esmeralda. (Ohhh, the hair smelling. * Shudders.* ) Oh, and then he burns down most of a major city because the girl won't have sex with him. And yet the fans have bought him a pair of [[DracoInLeatherPants leather pants]].
*** [[YouBlockhead Not to mention the fact that rather than admit his lust for Esmeralda is his own fault he'd rather blame it on]] ''[[YouBlockhead her]]'', insisting that she's a witch who is enchanting him. Which he sees as excusing his violent measures to catch and rape/kill her.
**** He doesn't just blame Esmeralda, but God and the Devil as well. He must have slept through the story of Adam and Eve.
***** This troper got the impression that Frollo feels his desire to rape Esmeralda is wrong (and thus needs to blame someone for it) ''not'' because of rape being wrong, but because he thinks that lust in any context is inherently filthy and/or he thinks that being attracted to a gypsy is wrong given how AlwaysChaoticEvil he believes gypsies are. YourMilageMayVary on weather that makes him more or less awful or about the same, but there's no denying that he's a complete monster in any case.
****** Actually, Frollo is a Catholic Priest/Judge, and is absolutely forbidden for such a person to show love or lust.
** It's also rather ironic given that in the book, he's actually more sympathetic, since he didn't kill any woman and actually took in an abandoned baby [[spoiler: Quasimodo]] out of the kindness of his heart, not to mention he had a brother who he supported through a fief. Granted, he does [[JumpedOffTheSlipperySlope become quite evil and mad]] as time goes on, but he didn't reach the level of evil his Disney counterpart does.
*** [[YouBlockhead Not to mention the fact that rather than admit his lust for Esmeralda is his own fault he'd rather blame it on]] ''[[YouBlockhead her]]'', insisting that she's a witch who is enchanting him. Which he sees as excusing his violent measures to catch and rape/kill her.
**** He doesn't just blame Esmeralda, but God and the Devil as well. He must have slept through the story of Adam and Eve.
***** This troper got the impression that Frollo feels his desire to rape Esmeralda is wrong (and thus needs to blame someone for it) ''not'' because of rape being wrong, but because he thinks that lust in any context is inherently filthy and/or he thinks that being attracted to a gypsy is wrong given how AlwaysChaoticEvil he believes gypsies are. YourMilageMayVary on weather that makes him more or less awful or about the same, but there's no denying that he's a complete monster in any case.
****** Actually, Frollo is a Catholic Priest/Judge, and is absolutely forbidden for such a person to show love or lust.
** It's also rather ironic given that in the book, he's actually more sympathetic, since he didn't kill any woman and actually took in an abandoned baby [[spoiler: Quasimodo]] out of the kindness of his heart, not to mention he had a brother who he supported through a fief. Granted, he does [[JumpedOffTheSlipperySlope become quite evil and mad]] as time goes on, but he didn't reach the level of evil his Disney counterpart does.
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** Let's see: first he crosses the MoralEventHorizon in the ''first five minutes of the film'' by attempting to drown [[spoiler: Quasimodo]] Quasimodo after killing the his mother on the steps of the cathedral. Then he is shown to be quite obviously emotionally abusive to Quasimodo; on top of that, he's downright genocidal, seems to take delight in torturing his own soldiers, deliberately attempts to burn an innocent family alive in their home, home ''and'' has an unhealthy and dangerous sexual obsession with Esmeralda. (Ohhh, the hair smelling. * Shudders.* ) Oh, and then he burns down most of a major city because the girl won't have sex with him. And yet the fans have bought him a pair of [[DracoInLeatherPants leather pants]].
*** [[YouBlockhead Not to mention the fact that rather than admit his lust for Esmeralda is his ownfault fault, he'd rather blame it on]] ''[[YouBlockhead her]]'', her]]'' insisting that she's a witch who is enchanting him. Which he sees as excusing his violent measures to catch and rape/kill her.
**** *** He doesn't just blame Esmeralda, but God and the Devil as well. He must have slept through the story of Adam and Eve.
***** This troper got the impression that Frollo feels his desire to rape Esmeralda is wrong (and thus needs to blame someone for it) ''not'' because of rape being wrong, but because he thinks that lust in any context is inherently filthy and/or he thinks that being attracted to a gypsy is wrong given how AlwaysChaoticEvil he believes gypsies are. YourMilageMayVary on weather that makes him more or less awful or about the same, but there's no denying that he's a complete monster in any case.
****** Actually, Frollo is a Catholic Priest/Judge, and is absolutely forbidden for such a person to show love or lust.
** It's also rather ironic given that in the book, he's actually more sympathetic, since he didn't kill any woman and actually took in an abandoned baby [[spoiler: Quasimodo]] baby, Quasimodo, out of the kindness of his heart, not to mention he had a brother who he supported through a fief. Granted, he does [[JumpedOffTheSlipperySlope become quite evil and mad]] as time goes on, but he didn't reach the level of evil his Disney counterpart does.does.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Clopin.
*** [[YouBlockhead Not to mention the fact that rather than admit his lust for Esmeralda is his own
****** Actually, Frollo is a Catholic Priest/Judge, and is absolutely forbidden for such a person to show love or lust.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Clopin.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Frollo either crossed it when he was about to drown a baby in a well, or when he had a house burned down with an innocent family trapped inside; probably the latter, since he didn't quite DO the former.
* UnfortunateImplications: "And I just might know the guy she's burning for."
** Elaborate please?
* UnfortunateImplications: "And I just might know the guy she's burning for."
** Elaborate please?
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* MoralEventHorizon: Frollo either crossed it when he was about to drown a baby in a well, well or when he had a house burned down with an innocent family trapped inside; probably the latter, since he didn't quite DO the former.
*UnfortunateImplications: "And I NarmCharm: Of course YourMileageMayVary, but the entire ending teeters on this, especially the unprovoked hug by a random kid (who also shows up at Clopin's puppet show...)
* NightmareFuel: The VillainSong, "Hellfire".
** Then there's the gargoyle that randomly comes to life just to finish off Frollo...
** Not to mention the statues of the saints looking down at Frollo, and of the Virgin Mother's eyes opening as the lightning flashes in the prologue.
* TheScrappy: Nobody seems to like the gargoyles, mostly due to their contribution of the LighterAndSofter tone of the film.
** Not to mention causing MoodWhiplash in almost every scene they appear in.
*** They ''are'' pretty funny. The question is whether or not their relatively broad humor is a good thing, given what the rest of the movie is like.
* {{Sequelitis}}: And how. The first film had gorgeous animation, dealt with some pretty heavy themes for a Disney movie, and had very good music. The sequel dispensed with all of these in favor of an even LighterAndSofter approach that shoehorned in an undeveloped and boring love interest for Quasimodo. [[MoneyDearBoy Why Kevin Kline, Tom Hulce and Demi Moore stuck around for it is a mystery for the ages.]]
** There are two reasons the sequel exists 1) [[MoneyDearBoy Disney was big on sequels at the time]] and 2) [[ThrowTheDogABone People felt bad that Quasimodo didn't get the girl.]]
* {{Squick}}: Frollo grabbing Esmeralda in the church and '''smelling her hair.''' Tell me you didn't find it sickening.
** Unless of course you're a NightmareFetishist, and find it ... extremely hot.
** While it's played for laughs, Hugo the Gargoyle's atrraction towards Djali the goat is fairly disturbing.
* TearJerker: The [[DarkReprise reprise]] of ''Heaven's Light'' as Quasimodo watches Esmerelda kiss Phoebus and tearing up his ace of hearts card.
---> I knew I'd never know/ that warm and loving glow/ though I mightknow the guy she's burning for."
** Elaborate please?wish with all my might/ no face as hideous as my face/ was ever meant for heaven's light!
*
* NightmareFuel: The VillainSong, "Hellfire".
** Then there's the gargoyle that randomly comes to life just to finish off Frollo...
** Not to mention the statues of the saints looking down at Frollo, and of the Virgin Mother's eyes opening as the lightning flashes in the prologue.
* TheScrappy: Nobody seems to like the gargoyles, mostly due to their contribution of the LighterAndSofter tone of the film.
** Not to mention causing MoodWhiplash in almost every scene they appear in.
*** They ''are'' pretty funny. The question is whether or not their relatively broad humor is a good thing, given what the rest of the movie is like.
* {{Sequelitis}}: And how. The first film had gorgeous animation, dealt with some pretty heavy themes for a Disney movie, and had very good music. The sequel dispensed with all of these in favor of an even LighterAndSofter approach that shoehorned in an undeveloped and boring love interest for Quasimodo. [[MoneyDearBoy Why Kevin Kline, Tom Hulce and Demi Moore stuck around for it is a mystery for the ages.]]
** There are two reasons the sequel exists 1) [[MoneyDearBoy Disney was big on sequels at the time]] and 2) [[ThrowTheDogABone People felt bad that Quasimodo didn't get the girl.]]
* {{Squick}}: Frollo grabbing Esmeralda in the church and '''smelling her hair.''' Tell me you didn't find it sickening.
** Unless of course you're a NightmareFetishist, and find it ... extremely hot.
** While it's played for laughs, Hugo the Gargoyle's atrraction towards Djali the goat is fairly disturbing.
* TearJerker: The [[DarkReprise reprise]] of ''Heaven's Light'' as Quasimodo watches Esmerelda kiss Phoebus and tearing up his ace of hearts card.
---> I knew I'd never know/ that warm and loving glow/ though I might
** Elaborate please?
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* FetishFuelStationAttendant: A [[DoesNotLikeShoes barefoot]], [[AmbiguouslyBrown darkskinned]], [[HotGypsyWoman gypsy dancer]]. Guess who.
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** Clopin: ChaoticNeutral to ChaoticGood (both the narrator and a major in-movie character, his role in the movie does not seem clearly heroic or villainous... then we see the Court Of Miracles sequence where he could be interpreted as a villain... and then [[DoubleSubversion we see the battle sequence to the end where he turns out to have a more so heroic role]])
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** Clopin: ChaoticNeutral to ChaoticEvil to ChaoticGood (both the narrator and a major in-movie character, his role in the movie does not seem clearly heroic or villainous... then we see the Court Of Miracles sequence where he could be interpreted as a villain... and then [[DoubleSubversion we see the battle sequence to the end where he turns out to have a more so heroic role]])
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** Frollo: LawfulEvil (primarily of the "abuse the authority he lawfully has" variety)
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** Frollo: LawfulEvil (primarily of the "abuse the authority he lawfully has" variety)variety; which may be NeutralEvil if you don't regard that at truly lawful.)
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* CharacterAlignment: See [[http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1127/hondalignment.jpg this chart.]] Note that LawfulNeutral, TrueNeutral, NeutralEvil, and ChaoticEvil are blacked out; this is because [[CompleteMonster Frollo]] has the law on his side, making the more lawful characters decide between [[MyMasterRightOrWrong obeying Frollo]] or [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight defying him]], and because less lawful evil characters aren't presented by the story.
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* CharacterAlignment: See [[http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1127/hondalignment.jpg this chart.]] Note that LawfulNeutral, TrueNeutral, NeutralEvil, and ChaoticEvil are blacked out; this is because [[CompleteMonster Frollo]] has the law on his side, making the more lawful characters decide between [[MyMasterRightOrWrong obeying Frollo]] or [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight defying him]], and because less lawful comparably evil characters of a less lawful variety aren't presented by the story.
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* CharacterAlignment: See [[http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1127/hondalignment.jpg this chart.]] Note that LawfulNeutral, TrueNeutral, NeutralEvil, and ChaoticEvil are blacked out; this is because [[CompleteMonster Frollo]] has the law on his side, making the more lawful characters to decide between [[MyMasterRightOrWrong obeying Frollo]] or [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight defying him]], and because less lawful villains aren't presented by the story.
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* CharacterAlignment: See [[http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1127/hondalignment.jpg this chart.]] Note that LawfulNeutral, TrueNeutral, NeutralEvil, and ChaoticEvil are blacked out; this is because [[CompleteMonster Frollo]] has the law on his side, making the more lawful characters to decide between [[MyMasterRightOrWrong obeying Frollo]] or [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight defying him]], and because less lawful villains evil characters aren't presented by the story.
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* CharacterAlignment: See [[http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1127/hondalignment.jpg this chart]]. Note that LawfulNeutral, TrueNeutral, NeutralEvil, and ChaoticEvil are blacked out; this is because [[CompleteMonster Frollo]] having the law on his side implies evil to be on the side of the law, and requires the more lawful characters to decide between [[MyMasterRightOrWrong obeying Frollo]] or [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight defying him]].
* CharacterAlignment: See [[http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1127/hondalignment.jpg this chart]]. Note that LawfulNeutral, TrueNeutral, NeutralEvil, and ChaoticEvil are blacked out; this is because [[CompleteMonster Frollo]] having the law on his side implies evil to be on the side of the law, and requires the more lawful characters to decide between [[MyMasterRightOrWrong obeying Frollo]] or [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight defying him]].
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!! This YMMV section refers to [[DisneyAnimatedCanon [[Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame the Disney version]], NOT to the original version. (Though it's not entirely devoid of comparisons TO the original version.)
* CharacterAlignment: See [[http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1127/hondalignment.jpg thischart]]. chart.]] Note that LawfulNeutral, TrueNeutral, NeutralEvil, and ChaoticEvil are blacked out; this is because [[CompleteMonster Frollo]] having has the law on his side implies evil to be on the side of the law, and requires side, making the more lawful characters to decide between [[MyMasterRightOrWrong obeying Frollo]] or [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight defying him]].him]], and because less lawful villains aren't presented by the story.
* CharacterAlignment: See [[http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1127/hondalignment.jpg this
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!! This YMMV section refers to [[DisneyAnimatedCanon the Disney version]], NOT to the original version. (Though it's not entirely devoid of comparisons TO the original version.)
*CharacterAlignment:CharacterAlignment: See [[http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1127/hondalignment.jpg this chart]]. Note that LawfulNeutral, TrueNeutral, NeutralEvil, and ChaoticEvil are blacked out; this is because [[CompleteMonster Frollo]] having the law on his side implies evil to be on the side of the law, and requires the more lawful characters to decide between [[MyMasterRightOrWrong obeying Frollo]] or [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight defying him]].
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