History YMMV / TheHunchbackofNotreDame

14th Jan '17 5:43:12 PM Tightwire
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* MoralEventHorizon: Frollo crossed it when he almost killed Quasimodo as a baby for being deformed. And he only goes downhill from there.
** Hell, this moment was so bad, Frollo himself feared divine retribution FOR THE FIRST AND ONLY TIME IN HIS LIFE! Granted this was because of the Archdeacon's warning but still.
** His guards have their own moments like initiating the cruel public torture and humiliation Quasimodo goes through and burning down the miller's house with his family in it (children included) for him.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Frollo crossed it committed many despicable acts, but he initially rationalised them with serving Paris or serving God. Perhaps the significant moment of crossing the line is when he almost killed Quasimodo as shoves the Archdeacon out of his way to climb the stairs to the bell-tower. He doesn't just hate Gypsies, he isn't just angry at Quasimodo. Once he was a baby most pious man and sought to redeem himself, but now he has abandoned every shred of respect he ever had for being deformed. And he only goes downhill from there.
** Hell, this moment was so bad, Frollo himself feared divine retribution FOR THE FIRST AND ONLY TIME IN HIS LIFE! Granted this was because of
the Archdeacon's warning but still.
** His guards have their own moments like initiating the cruel public torture and humiliation Quasimodo goes through and burning down the miller's house with his family in it (children included) for him.
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8th Jan '17 1:34:01 PM SheldonDinkleburg
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** Judge Claude Frollo gets this too. Do we see flashes of guilt and torment in him that make him more sympathetic? Did he really feel nothing for killing Quasimodo's mother or did he take seriously the Archdeacon's plea to adopt Quasimodo out of guilt and a genuine fear of God? Do we see signs of him suffering and desiring to become a better person in his villain song, or is it more important that the experience makes him act even more evil than before?

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** Judge Claude Frollo gets this too. Frollo. Do we see flashes of guilt and torment in him that make him more sympathetic? Did he really feel nothing for killing Quasimodo's mother or did he take seriously the Archdeacon's plea to adopt Quasimodo out of guilt and a genuine fear of God? Do we see signs of him suffering and desiring to become a better person in his villain song, or is it more important that the experience makes him act even more evil than before?before? Part of this alternate interpretation is due to his AdaptationalVillainy, since he was a conflicted character in the original source material.
4th Jan '17 4:08:10 AM Shadowgazer
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** His guards have their own moments like initiating the cruel public torture and humiliation Quasimodo goes through and burning down the miller's house with his family in it (children included) for him.
29th Dec '16 1:39:29 AM ChrisX
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** Frollo's final line, "And he shall smite the wicked and plunge them into the fiery pit!'', followed by posters adding a nonchalant response from God such as "As you wish", or "That's not a bad idea."

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** Frollo's final line, "And he shall smite the wicked and plunge them into the fiery pit!'', followed by posters adding a nonchalant response from God such as "As you wish", or "That's not a bad idea."" Somehow it may soften [[NightmareFuel the creepiness]] of the scene.
20th Nov '16 8:02:41 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* {{Mondegreen}}: Some viewers mishear some of the OminousLatinChanting in "Hellfire" as "Because he's horny..."[[note]]the line is actually "Et tibit Pater (And to you, Father)"[[/note]], particularly the bit after "Then tell me, Maria, why I see her dancing there/Why her smoldering eyes still scorch my soul?" Which, hilariously enough, is ''entirely appropriate'' [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny given the context]].
20th Nov '16 7:57:45 PM Dr.XXX
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** The Archdeacon doesn't even acknowledge Quasimodo's existence after the opening scene, despite them both living in the same building. So, that raises the question: is he really the benevolent arbiter of justice in Notre Dame, or a callous hypocrite, willfully blind to Frollo's abuse of Quasimodo?

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** The Archdeacon doesn't even acknowledge Quasimodo's existence after the opening scene, despite them both living in the same building. So, that raises the question: is he really the benevolent arbiter of justice in Notre Dame, or a callous hypocrite, willfully blind to Frollo's abuse of Quasimodo?Quasimodo? Or is he too scared of Frollo to do anything about it?
1st Nov '16 3:17:32 PM Sammettik
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* MoralEventHorizon: Frollo crossed it when he almost killed him too as a baby for being deformed. And he only goes downhill from there.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Frollo crossed it when he almost killed him too Quasimodo as a baby for being deformed. And he only goes downhill from there.
28th Oct '16 8:55:18 AM Silverblade2
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* BrokenBase: Quasimodo not winning Esmeralda's love in the end is a major point of contention, as it's one of the few times Disney subverted the true love ending between the leading man and woman. Either it's a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop about ugly people not deserving true love, or a refreshing change of pace for demonstrating Esmeralda's right to choose (SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped explains that argument further).

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* BrokenBase: Quasimodo not winning Esmeralda's love in the end is a major point of contention, as it's one of the few times Disney subverted the true love ending between the leading man and woman. Either it's it sends a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop wrong message about ugly people not deserving true love, or a refreshing change of pace for demonstrating Esmeralda's right to choose (SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped explains that argument further).
22nd Sep '16 8:04:32 PM jameygamer
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* {{Sequelitis}}: The first film had gorgeous animation, dealt with some pretty heavy themes for a Disney movie, and had very good music. The sequel dispensed with all of these and made the tone much LighterAndSofter. [[MoneyDearBoy Why Kevin Kline, Tom Hulce and Demi Moore stuck around for it is a mystery for the ages.]]

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* {{Sequelitis}}: The first film had gorgeous animation, dealt with some pretty heavy themes for a Disney movie, and had very good music. The sequel dispensed with all of these and made the tone much LighterAndSofter. [[MoneyDearBoy Why Kevin Kline, Tom Hulce and Demi Moore stuck around for it is a mystery for the ages.]]]] This helped towards the end of the Disney sequels a few years later.
9th Sep '16 12:06:12 PM Prinzenick
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* {{Mondegreen}}: Some viewers mishear some of the OminousLatinChanting in "Hellfire" as "Because he's horny...", particularly the bit after "Then tell me, Maria, why I see her dancing there/Why her smoldering eyes still scorch my soul?" Which, hilariously enough, is ''entirely appropriate'' [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny given the context]].

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* {{Mondegreen}}: Some viewers mishear some of the OminousLatinChanting in "Hellfire" as "Because he's horny...", "[[note]]the line is actually "Et tibit Pater (And to you, Father)"[[/note]], particularly the bit after "Then tell me, Maria, why I see her dancing there/Why her smoldering eyes still scorch my soul?" Which, hilariously enough, is ''entirely appropriate'' [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny given the context]].
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