History YMMV / TheHunchbackofNotreDame

29th Mar '17 6:15:14 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[HangingJudge Judge]] Claude [[EgocentricallyReligious Frollo]] is the self-proclaimed [[SinisterMinister Minister of Justice]], but is in truth a deeply prejudiced corrupt official. Frollo [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain holds the gypsies scattered around Paris in deep contempt]], and [[FinalSolution seeks to eradicate them]]. Killing a young gypsy mother on the steps of Notre Dame, Frollo then attempted to [[WouldHurtAChild drown her infant son for his deformities]], only being stopped by the archdeacon. Solely for fear of being punished for his crimes, Frollo takes the boy in, naming him Quasimodo and [[AbusiveParents raising him in isolation, teaching him to think of himself as a monster]]. Frollo [[StalkerWithACrush lusts after the gypsy dancer Esmeralda]], resolving to force her to be his, or kill her. Frollo terrorizes Paris while searching for her, imprisoning many gypsies and having a massive portion of the city burnt down. He finally besieges the gypsy hideout and captures them all, including Esmeralda. Accusing Esmeralda of witchcraft, Frollo attempts to publicly execute her when she rejects his advances before launching an attack upon the cathedral when Quasimodo rescues her. When Esmeralda seemingly dies, Frollo asks a mourning Quasimodo for forgiveness, only to try and stab him when he lets his guard down. He finally pursues Quasimodo and Esmeralda onto a balcony and attempts to murder them both. Perhaps Clopin puts it best, when he asks, "Who is the monster and who is the man?"

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* CompleteMonster: [[HangingJudge Judge]] Claude [[BigBad Claude]] [[EgocentricallyReligious Frollo]] is the self-proclaimed [[SinisterMinister Minister of Justice]], but is in truth a deeply prejudiced corrupt official. Frollo [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain holds the gypsies scattered around Paris in deep contempt]], and [[FinalSolution seeks to eradicate them]]. Killing a young gypsy mother on the steps of Notre Dame, Frollo then attempted to [[WouldHurtAChild drown her infant son for his deformities]], only being stopped by the archdeacon. Solely for fear of being punished for his crimes, Frollo takes the boy in, naming him Quasimodo and [[AbusiveParents raising him in isolation, teaching him to think of himself as a monster]]. Frollo [[StalkerWithACrush lusts after the gypsy dancer Esmeralda]], resolving to force her to be his, or kill her. Frollo terrorizes Paris while searching for her, imprisoning many gypsies and having a massive portion of the city burnt down. He finally besieges the gypsy hideout and captures them all, including Esmeralda. Accusing Esmeralda of witchcraft, Frollo attempts to publicly execute her when she rejects his advances before launching an attack upon the cathedral when Quasimodo rescues her. When Esmeralda seemingly dies, Frollo asks a mourning Quasimodo for forgiveness, only to try and stab him when he lets his guard down. He finally pursues Quasimodo and Esmeralda onto a balcony and attempts to murder them both. Perhaps Clopin puts it best, when he asks, "Who is the monster and who is the man?"
28th Mar '17 10:37:03 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[HangingJudge Judge Claude Frollo]] is the self-proclaimed [[SinisterMinister Minister of Justice]], but is in truth a deeply prejudiced corrupt official. Frollo [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain holds the gypsies scattered around Paris in deep contempt]], and [[FinalSolution seeks to eradicate them]]. Killing a young gypsy mother on the steps of Notre Dame, Frollo then attempted to [[WouldHurtAChild drown her infant son for his deformities]], only being stopped by the archdeacon. Solely for fear of being punished for his crimes, Frollo takes the boy in, naming him Quasimodo and [[AbusiveParents raising him in isolation, teaching him to think of himself as a monster]]. Frollo [[StalkerWithACrush lusts after the gypsy dancer Esmeralda]], resolving to force her to be his, or kill her. Frollo terrorizes Paris while searching for her, imprisoning many gypsies and having a massive portion of the city burnt down. He finally besieges the gypsy hideout and captures them all, including Esmeralda. Accusing Esmeralda of witchcraft, Frollo attempts to publicly execute her when she rejects his advances before launching an attack upon the cathedral when Quasimodo rescues her. When Esmeralda seemingly dies, Frollo asks a mourning Quasimodo for forgiveness, only to try and stab him when he lets his guard down. He finally pursues Quasimodo and Esmeralda onto a balcony and attempts to murder them both. Perhaps Clopin puts it best, when he asks, "Who is the monster and who is the man?"

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* CompleteMonster: [[HangingJudge Judge Judge]] Claude [[EgocentricallyReligious Frollo]] is the self-proclaimed [[SinisterMinister Minister of Justice]], but is in truth a deeply prejudiced corrupt official. Frollo [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain holds the gypsies scattered around Paris in deep contempt]], and [[FinalSolution seeks to eradicate them]]. Killing a young gypsy mother on the steps of Notre Dame, Frollo then attempted to [[WouldHurtAChild drown her infant son for his deformities]], only being stopped by the archdeacon. Solely for fear of being punished for his crimes, Frollo takes the boy in, naming him Quasimodo and [[AbusiveParents raising him in isolation, teaching him to think of himself as a monster]]. Frollo [[StalkerWithACrush lusts after the gypsy dancer Esmeralda]], resolving to force her to be his, or kill her. Frollo terrorizes Paris while searching for her, imprisoning many gypsies and having a massive portion of the city burnt down. He finally besieges the gypsy hideout and captures them all, including Esmeralda. Accusing Esmeralda of witchcraft, Frollo attempts to publicly execute her when she rejects his advances before launching an attack upon the cathedral when Quasimodo rescues her. When Esmeralda seemingly dies, Frollo asks a mourning Quasimodo for forgiveness, only to try and stab him when he lets his guard down. He finally pursues Quasimodo and Esmeralda onto a balcony and attempts to murder them both. Perhaps Clopin puts it best, when he asks, "Who is the monster and who is the man?"
22nd Mar '17 2:54:19 PM Silverblade2
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** For some, the movie is this. Either they're turned off by the whole fandom treating it as a sacred cow, and find the uneven mood, unfaithfulness to the source material, and weird combo of cutesy disney morals into such a dark story of sexual perversion and racism to be rather jarring.

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** %%** For some, the movie is this. Either they're turned off by the whole fandom treating it as a sacred cow, and find the uneven mood, unfaithfulness to the source material, and weird combo of cutesy disney morals into such a dark story of sexual perversion and racism to be rather jarring.
3rd Mar '17 2:24:13 AM Shadowgazer
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* MoralEventHorizon: Frollo committed many despicable acts, but he initially rationalised them with serving Paris or serving God. Perhaps the significant moment of crossing the line is when he shoves the Archdeacon out of his way to climb the stairs to the bell-tower. He doesn't just hate Gypsies, he isn't just angry at Quasimodo. Once he was a most pious man and sought to redeem himself, but now he has abandoned every shred of respect he ever had for the church.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Frollo committed many despicable acts, but he initially rationalised them with serving Paris or serving God. Perhaps the significant moment of crossing the line is MoralEventHorizon:Frollo crossed it when he shoves almost killed Quasimodo as a baby for being deformed. And he only goes downhill from there.
** Hell, this moment was so bad, Frollo himself feared divine retribution FOR THE FIRST AND ONLY TIME IN HIS LIFE! Granted this was because of
the Archdeacon out of Archdeacon's warning but still.
** His guards have their own moments like initiating the cruel public torture and humiliation Quasimodo goes through and burning down the miller's house with
his way to climb the stairs to the bell-tower. He doesn't just hate Gypsies, he isn't just angry at Quasimodo. Once he was a most pious man and sought to redeem himself, but now he has abandoned every shred of respect he ever had family in it (children included) for the church.him.
16th Feb '17 11:32:45 AM Kittencakes
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** For some, the movie is this. Either they're turned off by the whole fandom treating it as a sacred cow, and find the uneven mood, unfaithfulness to the source material, and weird combo of cutesy disney morals into such a dark story of sexual perversion and racism to be rather jarring.
31st Jan '17 1:43:30 PM PrincessGwen
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** The depiction of the Gypsies in the book has not aged well. While Esmeralda’s persecution as a witch is portrayed as wrong, near the end of the novel, its revealed by birth she was French, and was exchanged with Quasimodo(who is actually Romani by birth). The other Gypsies in the novel are portrayed as part of the lower class in the Cour des miracles(Slums), who survive by begging, and pickpocketing. Clopin, [[KingOfTheHomeless their leader]], is depicted as a AntiHero, who while possessing a heroic side, is hostile towards the Middle class, and threatens to hang Gringoire for trespassing in the Cour des Miracles. At several points, they are referred to as the "Egyptians."

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** The depiction of the Gypsies in the book has not aged well. While Esmeralda’s persecution as a witch is portrayed as wrong, near the end of the novel, its it's revealed by birth she was French, and was exchanged with Quasimodo(who Quasimodo (who is actually Romani by birth). The other Gypsies in the novel are portrayed as part of the lower class in the Cour des miracles(Slums), Miracles (Slums), who survive by begging, and pickpocketing. Clopin, [[KingOfTheHomeless their leader]], is depicted as a an AntiHero, who while possessing a heroic side, is hostile towards the Middle class, and threatens to hang Gringoire for trespassing in the Cour des Miracles. At several points, they are referred to as the "Egyptians."
24th Jan '17 5:02:04 AM Theatre_Maven_3695
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* MemeticMolester: Frollo, for [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny good reason]].

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* MemeticMolester: Frollo, for [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny good reason]].good]] [[CompleteMonster reasons]].
24th Jan '17 4:55:50 AM Theatre_Maven_3695
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* MemeticMolester: Frollo, for [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny good]] [[CompleteMonster reasons]].

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* MemeticMolester: Frollo, for [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny good]] [[CompleteMonster reasons]].good reason]].
19th Jan '17 8:31:29 AM ooh
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* CultClassic: While it isn't as popular as other Disney animated films, it seems to have had grown a following thanks on the Internet, perhaps because of [[Creator/TonyJay Tony Jay]]'s performance as Frollo.
19th Jan '17 6:51:12 AM YasminPerry
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* SoOkayItsAverage: Quite a few people feel this way about the film, especially at the time of its release. It doesn't help that's not too similar to the original novel, frustrating many of its fans.
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