History YMMV / TheEyeOfArgon

4th Oct '17 9:08:39 PM CaptEquinox
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** Some fans of [[HeroicFantasy the genre Theis was attempting]] say that the concepts behind the story aren't that bad. Theis seems to have been influenced by Creator/RobertEHoward and his ''Literature/ConanTheBarbarian'' stories, particularly "Literature/TheTowerOfTheElephant" (an idol has an enormous jewel which Conan takes), "Literature/QueenOfTheBlackCoast" (Conan speaks of having just witnessed an encounter almost exactly like Grignr's in the tavern); "People of the Black Circle" (the shaman), "Literature/RoguesInTheHouse" (the hero imprisoned, later using a bone to escape; Conan also languishes in prison in ''Literature/TheHourOfTheDragon'') and "Literature/TheScarletCitadel" (lengthy explorations in the underground passages). The use of "emerald orbs" and "life fluid" type euphemisms are also ''very'' characteristic of Howard's writing. Grignr's declaration that his people live free and wild in the hills without need of decadent baubles is not unlike statements Conan made in several stories:

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** Some fans of [[HeroicFantasy the genre Theis was attempting]] say that the concepts behind the story aren't that bad. Theis seems to have been influenced by Creator/RobertEHoward and his ''Literature/ConanTheBarbarian'' stories, particularly "Literature/TheTowerOfTheElephant" (an idol has an enormous jewel which Conan takes), "Literature/QueenOfTheBlackCoast" (Conan speaks of having just witnessed an encounter almost exactly like Grignr's in the tavern); "People of the Black Circle" (the shaman), evil shamans), "Literature/RoguesInTheHouse" (the hero imprisoned, later using a bone to escape; Conan also languishes in prison in ''Literature/TheHourOfTheDragon'') and "Literature/TheScarletCitadel" (lengthy explorations in the underground passages). The use of "emerald orbs" and "life fluid" type euphemisms are also ''very'' characteristic of Howard's writing. Grignr's declaration that his people live free and wild in the hills without need of decadent baubles is not unlike statements Conan made in several stories:
8th Jul '17 12:40:38 PM nombretomado
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: For some readers, TheOtherWiki's claim that Jim Theis gave up writing due to [[NeverLiveItDown not being able to live down]] the humiliation (and that Theis explicitly said that his feelings had been hurt) makes the story harder to enjoy or laugh at.

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: For some readers, TheOtherWiki's Wiki/TheOtherWiki's claim that Jim Theis gave up writing due to [[NeverLiveItDown not being able to live down]] the humiliation (and that Theis explicitly said that his feelings had been hurt) makes the story harder to enjoy or laugh at.
26th Jun '17 7:38:02 PM CaptEquinox
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** Some fans of [[HeroicFantasy the genre Theis was attempting]] say that the concepts behind the story aren't that bad. Theis seems to have been influenced by Creator/RobertEHoward and his ''Literature/ConanTheBarbarian'' stories, particularly "Literature/TheTowerOfTheElephant" (an idol has an enormous jewel which Conan takes), "Literature/QueenOfTheBlackCoast" (Conan speaks of having just witnessed an encounter almost exactly like Grignr's in the tavern); "People of the Black Circle" (the shaman), "Literature/RoguesInTheHouse" (the hero imprisoned, later using a bone to escape; Conan also languishes in prison in ''Literature/TheHourOfTheDragon'') and "Literature/TheScarletCitadel" (lengthy explorations in the underground passages). Grignr's declaration that his people live free and wild in the hills without need of decadent baubles is not unlike statements Conan made in several stories:

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** Some fans of [[HeroicFantasy the genre Theis was attempting]] say that the concepts behind the story aren't that bad. Theis seems to have been influenced by Creator/RobertEHoward and his ''Literature/ConanTheBarbarian'' stories, particularly "Literature/TheTowerOfTheElephant" (an idol has an enormous jewel which Conan takes), "Literature/QueenOfTheBlackCoast" (Conan speaks of having just witnessed an encounter almost exactly like Grignr's in the tavern); "People of the Black Circle" (the shaman), "Literature/RoguesInTheHouse" (the hero imprisoned, later using a bone to escape; Conan also languishes in prison in ''Literature/TheHourOfTheDragon'') and "Literature/TheScarletCitadel" (lengthy explorations in the underground passages). The use of "emerald orbs" and "life fluid" type euphemisms are also ''very'' characteristic of Howard's writing. Grignr's declaration that his people live free and wild in the hills without need of decadent baubles is not unlike statements Conan made in several stories:
23rd Dec '16 9:24:57 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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* GeniusBonus: There really is such a thing as a "scarlet emerald", though it's more commonly known as bixbite or red beryl, and it's not clear if that was what Theis was actually going for.


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* GeniusBonus: There really is such a thing as a "scarlet emerald", though it's more commonly known as bixbite or red beryl, and it's not clear if that was what Theis was actually going for.
10th Dec '16 11:01:49 AM nombretomado
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** Some fans of [[HeroicFantasy the genre Theis was attempting]] say that the concepts behind the story aren't that bad. Theis seems to have been influenced by Creator/RobertEHoward and his ''ConanTheBarbarian'' stories, particularly "The Tower of the Elephant" (an idol has an enormous jewel which Conan takes), "Queen of the Black Coast" (Conan speaks of having just witnessed an encounter almost exactly like Grignr's in the tavern); "People of the Black Circle" (the shamen), "Rogues in the House" (the hero imprisoned, later using a bone to escape; Conan also languishes in prison in ''The Hour of the Dragon'') and "The Scarlet Citadel" (lengthy explorations in the underground passages). Grignr's declaration that his people live free and wild in the hills without need of decadent baubles is not unlike statements Conan made in several stories:

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** Some fans of [[HeroicFantasy the genre Theis was attempting]] say that the concepts behind the story aren't that bad. Theis seems to have been influenced by Creator/RobertEHoward and his ''ConanTheBarbarian'' ''Literature/ConanTheBarbarian'' stories, particularly "The Tower of the Elephant" "Literature/TheTowerOfTheElephant" (an idol has an enormous jewel which Conan takes), "Queen of the Black Coast" "Literature/QueenOfTheBlackCoast" (Conan speaks of having just witnessed an encounter almost exactly like Grignr's in the tavern); "People of the Black Circle" (the shamen), "Rogues in the House" shaman), "Literature/RoguesInTheHouse" (the hero imprisoned, later using a bone to escape; Conan also languishes in prison in ''The Hour of the Dragon'') ''Literature/TheHourOfTheDragon'') and "The Scarlet Citadel" "Literature/TheScarletCitadel" (lengthy explorations in the underground passages). Grignr's declaration that his people live free and wild in the hills without need of decadent baubles is not unlike statements Conan made in several stories:
19th May '16 4:37:50 AM MagBas
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* MartyStu: Grignr.
30th Aug '15 6:59:46 PM nombretomado
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* SnarkBait: This book is possibly the worst fantasy short story ever written ''ever''. Terrible in the extreme, only readable with the help of the MST3K crew heckling it... yet somehow, impossible not to read (at least once). In places, it has become tradition to stage competitions of how much people could read with a straight face and expressive voice. Three quarters of a page is considered doing extremely well.

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* SnarkBait: This book is possibly the worst fantasy short story ever written ''ever''. Terrible in the extreme, only readable with the help of the MST3K [[Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000 MST3K]] crew heckling it... yet somehow, impossible not to read (at least once). In places, it has become tradition to stage competitions of how much people could read with a straight face and expressive voice. Three quarters of a page is considered doing extremely well.
22nd Mar '15 9:39:52 PM PaulA
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* GeniusBonus: There really is such a thing as a "scarlet emerald", though it's more commonly known as bixbite or red beryl, and it's not clear if that was what Theis was actually going for.
13th Aug '14 1:20:14 PM MathsAngelicVersion
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!!YMMV tropes in Creator/AdamCadre's ''Mystery Science Theater 3000'' fan-{{MSTing}} presentation:

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!!YMMV tropes in Creator/AdamCadre's ''Mystery Science Theater 3000'' fan-{{MSTing}} fan-{{MST}}ing presentation:
8th Apr '14 6:08:31 PM theunhappytwins
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* MemeticBadass: The rat Grignr fights.
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