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* {{Wangst}}: What Mundo Cani does for most of the book, often about his GagNose. [[CatchPhrase ''MAROONED!'']]
** However, it is implied that at least part of his {{Wangst}} comes from [[spoiler: knowing about his HeroicSacrifice.]]



** The Bird With No Tongue and Ferric Coyote in the sequel.
* {{Wangst}}: What Mundo Cani does for most of the book, often about his GagNose. [[CatchPhrase ''MAROONED!'']]
** However, it is implied that at least part of his {{Wangst}} comes from [[spoiler: knowing about his HeroicSacrifice.]]

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** The Bird With No Tongue and Ferric Coyote in the sequel.
* {{Wangst}}: What Mundo Cani does for most of the book, often about his GagNose. [[CatchPhrase ''MAROONED!'']]
** However, it is implied that at least part of his {{Wangst}} comes from [[spoiler: knowing about his HeroicSacrifice.]]
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* CompleteMonster: Cockatrice, who [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil torments Senex's hens]] (including [[TheHeart Pertelote]]), [[spoiler: kills his own father]], and tries to engineer the return of [[BigBad Wyrm]].
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* AngstAversion: The sequels are hard reads, with the ever larger number of character deaths in each one. [[spoiler:Chauntecleer]] kills himself at the end of the second book, the rewrite contains a subplot involving Coop members turning on each other, and the third book [[spoiler: ends with Pertelote and the other animals ''dying'', although the blow may be softened by their implied reunion in the afterlife.]]
* BaseBreaker: The rewritten ''Book of Sorrows'' (renamed ''Lamentations''), which has been criticized for altering the characters, timeline, and tone of the series to make them fit events in the third book, [[SequelGap published much later than the previous two]], and causing a ContinuitySnarl in the process.
* CompleteMonster: Cockatrice, who [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil torments Senex's hens]] (including [[TheHeart Pertelote]]), [[spoiler: kills his own father]], and tries to engineer the return of [[BigBad Wyrm]].

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* AngstAversion: The sequels are hard reads, with the ever larger number of character deaths in each one. [[spoiler:Chauntecleer]] kills himself at the end of the second book, the rewrite contains a subplot involving Coop members turning on each other, and the third book [[spoiler: ends with Pertelote and the other animals ''dying'', although the blow may be softened by their implied reunion in the afterlife.]]
* BaseBreaker: The rewritten ''Book of Sorrows'' (renamed ''Lamentations''), which has been criticized for altering the characters, timeline, and tone of the series to make them fit events in the third book, [[SequelGap published much later than the previous two]], and causing a ContinuitySnarl in the process. \n On the one hand, some readers are glad to see a clear-cut conclusion to the series and [[spoiler: the reunion of the animals in the afterlife]], but others are annoyed by what they see as watering-down of the characters and changes to important plot points.
* CompleteMonster: Cockatrice, who [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil torments Senex's hens]] (including [[TheHeart Pertelote]]), [[spoiler: kills his own father]], and tries to engineer the return of [[BigBad Wyrm]].



* FirstInstallmentWins: An interesting case. The first book, ''The Book of the Dun Cow'', is the most well known book in the series, receiving widespread critical acclaim as well as an off-Broadway theater adaptation. While the second was also well-received critically, its DarkerAndEdgier tone (even compared to the already dark first book) made it a tough read for some fans of the original. Then the author [[GeorgeLucasAlteredVersion rewrote and cut large parts of the second book to fit the third book]], leading to criticism from fans of the first two books as they already stood and making the third book, ''Peace at the Last'', the most divisive of the three. It was [[SequelGap published in 2013]] with none of the first two's fanfare.

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* FirstInstallmentWins: An interesting case. The first book, ''The Book of the Dun Cow'', is the most well known book in the series, receiving widespread critical acclaim as well as an off-Broadway theater adaptation. While the second was also well-received critically, its DarkerAndEdgier tone (even compared to the already dark first book) made it a tough read for some fans of the original. Then the author [[GeorgeLucasAlteredVersion rewrote and cut large parts of the second book to fit the third book]], leading to criticism from fans of the first two books as they already stood and making the third book, ''Peace at the Last'', the most divisive of the three. It was quietly [[SequelGap published in 2013]] with almost none of the first two's fanfare.fanfare or acclaim.
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** The wolves' killing of Sweet Baby Blue and Jasper's attack on Pertinax Cobb in ''Lamentations'', which causes the other animals to exile them. Selkirk sees his eating Ratatosk as this and leaves of his own will.

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** The wolves' killing of Sweet Baby Blue and Jasper's attack on Pertinax Cobb murder of Chalcedony in ''Lamentations'', which causes the other animals to exile them. Selkirk sees his eating Ratatosk as this and leaves of his own will.
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* FirstInstallmentWins: An interesting case. The first book, ''The Book of the Dun Cow'', is the most well known book in the series, receiving widespread critical acclaim as well as an off-Broadway theater adaptation. While the second was also well-received critically, its DarkerAndEdgier tone (even compared to the already dark first book) made it a tough read for some fans of the original. Then the author [[GeorgeLucasAlteredVersion rewrote and cut large parts of the second book to fit the third book published in 2013]], leading to criticism from fans of the first two books as they already stood and making the third book, ''Peace at the Last'', the most divisive of the three.

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* FirstInstallmentWins: An interesting case. The first book, ''The Book of the Dun Cow'', is the most well known book in the series, receiving widespread critical acclaim as well as an off-Broadway theater adaptation. While the second was also well-received critically, its DarkerAndEdgier tone (even compared to the already dark first book) made it a tough read for some fans of the original. Then the author [[GeorgeLucasAlteredVersion rewrote and cut large parts of the second book to fit the third book published in 2013]], book]], leading to criticism from fans of the first two books as they already stood and making the third book, ''Peace at the Last'', the most divisive of the three. It was [[SequelGap published in 2013]] with none of the first two's fanfare.
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* AngstAversion: The sequels are hard reads, with the ever larger number of character deaths in each one. [[spoiler:Chauntecleer]] kills himself at the end of the second book, and the third book [[spoiler: ends with Pertelote and the other animals ''dying'', although the blow may be softened by their implied reunion in the afterlife.]]
* BaseBreaker: The rewritten ''Book of Sorrows'' (renamed ''Lamentations''), which has been criticized for altering the characters and tone of the series to make them fit events in the third book, [[SequelGap published much later than the previous two]], and causing a ContinuitySnarl in the process.

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* AngstAversion: The sequels are hard reads, with the ever larger number of character deaths in each one. [[spoiler:Chauntecleer]] kills himself at the end of the second book, the rewrite contains a subplot involving Coop members turning on each other, and the third book [[spoiler: ends with Pertelote and the other animals ''dying'', although the blow may be softened by their implied reunion in the afterlife.]]
* BaseBreaker: The rewritten ''Book of Sorrows'' (renamed ''Lamentations''), which has been criticized for altering the characters characters, timeline, and tone of the series to make them fit events in the third book, [[SequelGap published much later than the previous two]], and causing a ContinuitySnarl in the process.



* FirstInstallmentWins: An interesting case. The first book, ''The Book of the Dun Cow'', is the most well known book in the series, receiving widespread acclaim as well as an off-Broadway theater adaptation. While the second was also well-received critically, its DarkerAndEdgier tone (even compared to the already dark first book) made it a tough read for some fans of the original. Then the author [[GeorgeLucasAlteredVersion rewrote and cut large parts of the second book to fit the third book published in 2013]], leading to criticism from fans of the first two books as they already stood and making the third book, ''Peace at the Last'', the most divisive of the three.

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* FirstInstallmentWins: An interesting case. The first book, ''The Book of the Dun Cow'', is the most well known book in the series, receiving widespread critical acclaim as well as an off-Broadway theater adaptation. While the second was also well-received critically, its DarkerAndEdgier tone (even compared to the already dark first book) made it a tough read for some fans of the original. Then the author [[GeorgeLucasAlteredVersion rewrote and cut large parts of the second book to fit the third book published in 2013]], leading to criticism from fans of the first two books as they already stood and making the third book, ''Peace at the Last'', the most divisive of the three.



** Jasper in ''Lamentations'' and Ruttus in ''Peace at the Last''. While both of them are antagonists, Jasper suffers for her choices and Ruttus endured abuse from her mate, Eurus.

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** Jasper in ''Lamentations'' and Ruttus Rutt in ''Peace at the Last''. While both of them are antagonists, Jasper suffers for her choices and Ruttus Rutt endured abuse from her mate, Eurus.

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* JerkassWoobie: While he gets a little too excited about his son, it's hard not to feel sorry for Senex when [[spoiler: he is killed by Cockatrice]].

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* JerkassWoobie: While JerkassWoobie:
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he gets a little too excited about his son, it's hard not to feel sorry for Senex when [[spoiler: he is killed by Cockatrice]].



* MoralEventHorizon: [[TheDragon Cockatrice]] crosses it as soon as he grows up by [[spoiler: murdering Senex rather callously and shoving the body aside.]]
* {{Squick}}: A basilisk gets into the Coop and [[spoiler: kills the Wee Widow Mouse]] by hiding ''inside the body'' of a Wild Turkey it killed.

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** Jasper in ''Lamentations'' and Ruttus in ''Peace at the Last''. While both of them are antagonists, Jasper suffers for her choices and Ruttus endured abuse from her mate, Eurus.
* MoralEventHorizon: MoralEventHorizon:
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[[TheDragon Cockatrice]] crosses it as soon as he grows up by [[spoiler: murdering Senex rather callously and shoving the body aside.]]
** The wolves' killing of Sweet Baby Blue and Jasper's attack on Pertinax Cobb in ''Lamentations'', which causes the other animals to exile them. Selkirk sees his eating Ratatosk as this and leaves of his own will.
* {{Squick}}: {{Squick}}:
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A basilisk gets into the Coop and [[spoiler: kills the Wee Widow Mouse]] by hiding ''inside the body'' of a Wild Turkey it killed. killed.
** At one point one of the worms that live in his head crawls out of Chauntecleer's beak in the sequel.
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* EstotericHappyEnding: A similar case to ''Literature/TheLastBattle'' - at the end of ''Peace At The Last'', [[spoiler: most of the named characters are dead, although they are reunited in the afterlife, along with characters who died in the previous books.]]

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* EstotericHappyEnding: EsotericHappyEnding: A similar case to ''Literature/TheLastBattle'' - at the end of ''Peace At The Last'', [[spoiler: most of the named characters are dead, although they are reunited in the afterlife, along with characters who died in the previous books.]]

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* AngstAversion: The sequels are hard reads, with the ever larger number of character deaths in each one. The third book [[spoiler: ends with Pertelote and the other animals ''dying'', although the blow may be softened by their implied reunion in the afterlife.]]
* BaseBreaker: The rewritten ''Book of Sorrows'' (renamed ''Lamentations''), which has been criticized for altering the characters and tone of the series to make them fit events in the third book, [[SequelGap published much later than the previous two]].

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* AngstAversion: The sequels are hard reads, with the ever larger number of character deaths in each one. The [[spoiler:Chauntecleer]] kills himself at the end of the second book, and the third book [[spoiler: ends with Pertelote and the other animals ''dying'', although the blow may be softened by their implied reunion in the afterlife.]]
* BaseBreaker: The rewritten ''Book of Sorrows'' (renamed ''Lamentations''), which has been criticized for altering the characters and tone of the series to make them fit events in the third book, [[SequelGap published much later than the previous two]].two]], and causing a ContinuitySnarl in the process.


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* EstotericHappyEnding: A similar case to ''Literature/TheLastBattle'' - at the end of ''Peace At The Last'', [[spoiler: most of the named characters are dead, although they are reunited in the afterlife, along with characters who died in the previous books.]]
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* AngstAversion: The sequels are hard reads, with the ever larger number of character deaths in each one. The third book [[spoiler: ends with Pertelote and the other animals ''dying'', although the blow is softened by their implied reunion in the afterlife.]]

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* AngstAversion: The sequels are hard reads, with the ever larger number of character deaths in each one. The third book [[spoiler: ends with Pertelote and the other animals ''dying'', although the blow is may be softened by their implied reunion in the afterlife.]]
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* BaseBreaker: The rewritten ''Book of Sorrows'' (renamed ''Lamentations''), which has been criticized for altering the characters and tone of the series to make them fit events in the third book, published much later than the previous two.

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* BaseBreaker: The rewritten ''Book of Sorrows'' (renamed ''Lamentations''), which has been criticized for altering the characters and tone of the series to make them fit events in the third book, [[SequelGap published much later than the previous two.two]].
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* AngstAversion: The sequels are hard reads, with the ever larger number of character deaths in each one. The third book [[spoiler: ends with Pertelote and the other animals implicitly ''dying'', although the blow is softened by their reunion in the afterlife.]]

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* AngstAversion: The sequels are hard reads, with the ever larger number of character deaths in each one. The third book [[spoiler: ends with Pertelote and the other animals implicitly ''dying'', although the blow is softened by their implied reunion in the afterlife.]]
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* FirstInstallmentWins: An interesting case. The first book, ''The Book of the Dun Cow'', is the most well known book in the series, receiving widespread acclaim as well as an off-Broadway theater adaptation. While the second was also well-received critically, its DarkerAndEdgier tone (even compared to the already dark first book) made it a tough read for some fans of the original. Then the author [[GeorgeLucasAlteredVersion rewrote or cut large parts of the second book to fit the third book published in 2013]], leading to criticism from fans of the first two books as they already stood and making the third book, ''Peace at the Last'', the most divisive of the three.

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* FirstInstallmentWins: An interesting case. The first book, ''The Book of the Dun Cow'', is the most well known book in the series, receiving widespread acclaim as well as an off-Broadway theater adaptation. While the second was also well-received critically, its DarkerAndEdgier tone (even compared to the already dark first book) made it a tough read for some fans of the original. Then the author [[GeorgeLucasAlteredVersion rewrote or and cut large parts of the second book to fit the third book published in 2013]], leading to criticism from fans of the first two books as they already stood and making the third book, ''Peace at the Last'', the most divisive of the three.
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* BaseBreaker: The rewritten ''Book of Sorrows''(renamed ''Lamentations'') and ''Peace at the Last'', which have been criticized for altering the characters and tone of the series.

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* BaseBreaker: The rewritten ''Book of Sorrows''(renamed ''Lamentations'') and ''Peace at the Last'', Sorrows'' (renamed ''Lamentations''), which have has been criticized for altering the characters and tone of the series.series to make them fit events in the third book, published much later than the previous two.
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* AngstAversion: The sequels are hard reads, with the ever larger number of character deaths in each one. The third book [[spoiler: ends with Pertelote and the other animals implicitly ''dying'', although the blow is softened by their reunion in the afterlife.]]
* BaseBreaker: The rewritten ''Book of Sorrows''(renamed ''Lamentations'') and ''Peace at the Last'', which have been criticized for altering the characters and tone of the series.


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* FirstInstallmentWins: An interesting case. The first book, ''The Book of the Dun Cow'', is the most well known book in the series, receiving widespread acclaim as well as an off-Broadway theater adaptation. While the second was also well-received critically, its DarkerAndEdgier tone (even compared to the already dark first book) made it a tough read for some fans of the original. Then the author [[GeorgeLucasAlteredVersion rewrote or cut large parts of the second book to fit the third book published in 2013]], leading to criticism from fans of the first two books as they already stood and making the third book, ''Peace at the Last'', the most divisive of the three.
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** Wyrm himself, who tricked the Bird With No Tongue into losing her voice ForTheEvulz.
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* NightmareFuel: When [[spoiler: Lord Russel]] is reanimated as a zombie-like creature by Wyrm's evil essence in ''The Book of Sorrows''.



** The worms that get into Chauntecleer's body in ''The Book of Sorrows'' and corrupt him inside and out are deeply disturbing. At one point, one of them [[NauseaFuel crawls out of his beak]] while he is talking to Pertelote.



** However, it is implied that at least part of his {{Wangst}} comes from [[spoiler: knowing about his HeroicSacrifice.]]

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** However, it is implied that at least part of his {{Wangst}} comes from [[spoiler: knowing about his HeroicSacrifice.]]
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* CompleteMonster: Cockatrice, who [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil torments Senex's hens]] (including [[TheHeart Pertelote]]), [[spoiler: murders his own father]], and attempts to engineer the return of [[BigBad Wyrm]].

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* CompleteMonster: Cockatrice, who [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil torments Senex's hens]] (including [[TheHeart Pertelote]]), [[spoiler: murders kills his own father]], and attempts tries to engineer the return of [[BigBad Wyrm]].
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** The worms that get into Chauntecleer's body in ''The Book of Sorrows'' and corrupt him inside and out are deeply disturbing. At one point, one of them crawls out of his beak while he is talking to Pertelote.

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** The worms that get into Chauntecleer's body in ''The Book of Sorrows'' and corrupt him inside and out are deeply disturbing. At one point, one of them [[NauseaFuel crawls out of his beak beak]] while he is talking to Pertelote.

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** Wyrm himself, who tricked the Bird With No Tongue into losing her voice ForTheEvulz.



** [[spoiler: Chauntecleer himself]] in the sequel, once he realizes how delusional his plan to [[spoiler: raise Mundo Cani]] was at the end of his life and the extent of the consequences.



* {{Squick}}: A basilisk gets into the Coop and [[spoiler: kills the Wee Widow Mouse]] by hiding ''inside the body'' of a Wild Turkey it killed.
** Cockatrice's birth.

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* NightmareFuel: When [[spoiler: Lord Russel]] is reanimated as a zombie-like creature by Wyrm's evil essence in ''The Book of Sorrows''.
* {{Squick}}: A basilisk gets into the Coop and [[spoiler: kills the Wee Widow Mouse]] by hiding ''inside the body'' of a Wild Turkey it killed.
killed.
** Cockatrice's birth. The worms that get into Chauntecleer's body in ''The Book of Sorrows'' and corrupt him inside and out are deeply disturbing. At one point, one of them crawls out of his beak while he is talking to Pertelote.


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** The Bird With No Tongue and Ferric Coyote in the sequel.
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* TearJerker / CrowningMomentOfFunny: The last scene of the book, where Chauntecleer and John Wesley Weasel argue about who's going to [[spoiler: join Mundo Cani under the Earth in fighting Wyrm]] somehow manages to be both simultaneously

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* TearJerker / CrowningMomentOfFunny: The last scene of the book, where Chauntecleer and John Wesley Weasel argue about who's going to [[spoiler: join Mundo Cani under the Earth in fighting Wyrm]] somehow manages to be both simultaneously simultaneously.
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* TearJerker / CrowningMomentOfFunny: The last scene of the book, where Chauntecleer and John Wesley Weasel argue about who's going to [[spoiler: join Mundo Cani under the Earth in fighting Wyrm]] somehow manages to be both simultaneously
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* MoralEventHorizon: Crosses it as soon as he grows up by [[spoiler: murdering Senex rather callously and shoving the body aside.]]

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* MoralEventHorizon: Crosses [[TheDragon Cockatrice]] crosses it as soon as he grows up by [[spoiler: murdering Senex rather callously and shoving the body aside.]]
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* MoralEventHorizon: Crosses it as soon as he grows up by [[spoiler: murdering Senex rather callously and shoving the body aside.]]
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* CompleteMonster: Cockatrice, who [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil torments Senex's hens]] (including [[TheHeart Pertelote]]), murders his own father, and attempts to engineer the return of [[BigBad Wyrm]].

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* CompleteMonster: Cockatrice, who [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil torments Senex's hens]] (including [[TheHeart Pertelote]]), [[spoiler: murders his own father, father]], and attempts to engineer the return of [[BigBad Wyrm]].
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* JerkassWoobie: While he gets a little too excited about his son, it's hard not to feel sorry for Senex when [[spoiler: he is killed by Cockatrice]].



** However, it is implied that at least part of his {{Wangst}} comes from [[spoiler: knowing about his HeroicSacrifice.]]

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** However, it is implied that at least part of his {{Wangst}} comes from [[spoiler: knowing about his HeroicSacrifice.]]
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* Wangst: What Mundo Cani does for most of the book, often about his GagNose. [[CatchPhrase ''MAROONED!'']]

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* Wangst: {{Wangst}}: What Mundo Cani does for most of the book, often about his GagNose. [[CatchPhrase ''MAROONED!'']]
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* CompleteMonster: Cockatrice, who torments Senex's hens (including [[TheHeart Pertelote]]), murders his own father, and attempts to engineer the return of Wyrm.

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* CompleteMonster: Cockatrice, who [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil torments Senex's hens hens]] (including [[TheHeart Pertelote]]), murders his own father, and attempts to engineer the return of Wyrm.[[BigBad Wyrm]].



* TheWoobie: Mundo Cani. That is, until his CrowningMomentOfAwesome]].

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* TheWoobie: Mundo Cani. That is, until his CrowningMomentOfAwesome]].CrowningMomentOfAwesome.

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** Cockatrice's birth.
*TheWoobie: Mundo Cani. That is, until his CrowningMomentOfAwesome]].
* Wangst: What Mundo Cani does for most of the book, often about his GagNose. [[CatchPhrase ''MAROONED!'']]
** However, it is implied that at least part of his {{Wangst}} comes from [[spoiler: knowing about his HeroicSacrifice.]]

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* CompleteMonster: Cockatrice, who torments Senex's hens, murders his own father, and attempts to engineer the return of Wyrm.

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* CompleteMonster: Cockatrice, who torments Senex's hens, hens (including [[TheHeart Pertelote]]), murders his own father, and attempts to engineer the return of Wyrm.Wyrm.
* {{Squick}}: A basilisk gets into the Coop and [[spoiler: kills the Wee Widow Mouse]] by hiding ''inside the body'' of a Wild Turkey it killed.

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