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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: During Peter's season, {{SouthernBelle Madison Prewett}} ends up leaving during the finale after learning Peter was intimate with other women, and this is treated as justified. As a Christian, Madison was adamant about saving herself for marriage. However, some viewers questioned why someone as religious as Madison would go on a show so contrary to her values.
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* AlasPoorScrappy: While Vienna is hardly the most beloved Bachelorette, after the post break-up interview with Jake, while clearly not innocent herself in the faults of their relationship, Jake's treatment of her during said interview gained her a load of sympathy, especially after the moment he violently screamed at her, before going back to casually chatting with Chris, showing she just might have been a victim of verbal/emotional abuse during their short lived engagement.
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* AlasPoorScrappy: AlasPoorScrappy:
** While Vienna is hardly the most beloved Bachelorette, after the post break-up interview with Jake, while clearly not innocent herself in the faults of their relationship, Jake's treatment of her during said interview gained her a load of sympathy, especially after the moment he violently screamed at her, before going back to casually chatting with Chris, showing she just might have been a victim of verbal/emotional abuse during their short livedengagement.engagement.
** Despite Clayton's immaturity during his stint as the Bachelor, the Bachelor Nation has sided with him in the midst of a pregnancy scandal, especially given the woman public bashing him, has yet to even provide any real evidence that he was the father, and him willfully giving his DNA to settle things once and for all. When the woman claimed she "lost" the baby, the support for him has doubled.
** While Vienna is hardly the most beloved Bachelorette, after the post break-up interview with Jake, while clearly not innocent herself in the faults of their relationship, Jake's treatment of her during said interview gained her a load of sympathy, especially after the moment he violently screamed at her, before going back to casually chatting with Chris, showing she just might have been a victim of verbal/emotional abuse during their short lived
** Despite Clayton's immaturity during his stint as the Bachelor, the Bachelor Nation has sided with him in the midst of a pregnancy scandal, especially given the woman public bashing him, has yet to even provide any real evidence that he was the father, and him willfully giving his DNA to settle things once and for all. When the woman claimed she "lost" the baby, the support for him has doubled.
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-->'''Kalon''': Emily, obviously I'd like to apologize for the way things transpired. I am sorry for the way things went down between us, and I am using it as a growing experience for my future relationships, and I really wish the best for you.\\
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter
** Many fans were NOT happy at Sarah Coffin's early elimination on Peter's season. She was just out of a serious relationship (almost engaged!), and many thought that could have been interesting.
** Daria Rose, a Hurricane Sandy survivor who was accepted to seven Ivy League schools is eliminated in the first week of Clayton’s season.
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Yosef in Clare's season is treated like a selfish jerk by both her and all the other men for calling Clare out on her degrading group date, and while he carries himself in a very arrogant manner and gets unnecessarily personal in insulting Clare (and, frankly, could have just ''left the show''), he does raise a good point about how "naked dodgeball" had nothing to do with winning Clare's heart and was just there to be humiliating, emphasizing a DoubleStandard in the show.
** Many fans were NOT happy at Sarah Coffin's early elimination on Peter's season. She was just out of a serious relationship (almost engaged!), and many thought that could have been interesting.
** Daria Rose, a Hurricane Sandy survivor who was accepted to seven Ivy League schools is eliminated in the first week of Clayton’s season.
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Yosef in Clare's season is treated like a selfish jerk by both her and all the other men for calling Clare out on her degrading group date, and while he carries himself in a very arrogant manner and gets unnecessarily personal in insulting Clare (and, frankly, could have just ''left the show''), he does raise a good point about how "naked dodgeball" had nothing to do with winning Clare's heart and was just there to be humiliating, emphasizing a DoubleStandard in the show.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter
** Many fans were NOT happy at Sarah Coffin's early elimination on Peter's season. She was just out of a serious relationship (almost engaged!), and many thought that could have been interesting.
** Daria Rose, a Hurricane Sandy survivor who was accepted to seven Ivy League schools is eliminated in the first week of Clayton’s season.
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Yosef in Clare's season is treated like a selfish jerk by both her and all the other men for calling Clare out on her degrading group date, and while he carries himself in a very arrogant manner and gets unnecessarily personal in insulting Clare (and, frankly, could have just ''left the show''), he does raise a good point about how "naked dodgeball" had nothing to do with winning Clare's heart and was just there to be humiliating, emphasizing a DoubleStandard in the show.
** Many fans were NOT happy at Sarah Coffin's early elimination on Peter's season. She was just out of a serious relationship (almost engaged!), and many thought that could have been interesting.
** Daria Rose, a Hurricane Sandy survivor who was accepted to seven Ivy League schools is eliminated in the first week of Clayton’s season.
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Yosef in Clare's season is treated like a selfish jerk by both her and all the other men for calling Clare out on her degrading group date, and while he carries himself in a very arrogant manner and gets unnecessarily personal in insulting Clare (and, frankly, could have just ''left the show''), he does raise a good point about how "naked dodgeball" had nothing to do with winning Clare's heart and was just there to be humiliating, emphasizing a DoubleStandard in the show.
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** Many fans were NOT happy at Sarah Coffin's early elimination on Peter's season. She was just out of a serious relationship (almost engaged!), and many thought that could have been interesting.
** Daria Rose, a Hurricane Sandy survivor who was accepted to seven Ivy League schools is eliminated in the first week of Clayton’s season.
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Yosef in Clare's season is treated like a selfish jerk by both her and all the other men for calling Clare out on her degrading group date, and while he carries himself in a very arrogant manner and gets unnecessarily personal in insulting Clare (and, frankly, could have just ''left the show''), he does raise a good point about how "naked dodgeball" had nothing to do with winning Clare's heart and was just there to be humiliating, emphasizing a DoubleStandard in the show.
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* AlasPoorScrappy:
** While Vienna is hardly the most beloved Bachelorette, after the post break-up interview with Jake, while clearly not innocent herself in the faults of their relationship, Jake's treatment of her during said interview gained her a load of sympathy, especially after the moment he violently screamed at her, before going back to casually chatting with Chris, showing she just might have been a victim of verbal/emotional abuse during their short lived engagement.
** While Vienna is hardly the most beloved Bachelorette, after the post break-up interview with Jake, while clearly not innocent herself in the faults of their relationship, Jake's treatment of her during said interview gained her a load of sympathy, especially after the moment he violently screamed at her, before going back to casually chatting with Chris, showing she just might have been a victim of verbal/emotional abuse during their short lived engagement.
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**AlasPoorScrappy: While Vienna is hardly the most beloved Bachelorette, after the post break-up interview with Jake, while clearly not innocent herself in the faults of their relationship, Jake's treatment of her during said interview gained her a load of sympathy, especially after the moment he violently screamed at her, before going back to casually chatting with Chris, showing she just might have been a victim of verbal/emotional abuse during their short lived engagement.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: After Artie puts the ad in the paper, the film shows various women across the city noticing and getting dressed for the ad. With only a dozen or so in the church near the end. Then cuts straight to Jimmie's friends seeing HUNDREDS of brides mob the church. For context, the original Seven Chances had a slow start of one bride, the a few, then a few dozen before hundreds fill the church and streets.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
-During the church scene, they could've had the previous lovers of Jimmy show up knowing he's worth money now. It could've been both funny and interesting to see them interact with both Jimmy again and all the other brides.(Plus a reference to Brideless Groom.)
-On that note the entire bride chase feels rather wasted. Given that some of the brides have some personality plus having more women chasing than Seven Chances, they could've made a chase that was more chaotic or at least on the standard of Seven Chance's chase. (Their was some aspects in the trailers that didn't make the cut, like Jimmy enter a bus to see dozens of brides filling it, or jumping from the top of buses full of brides with more filling the street.)
* OneSceneWonder: The main talkers of the brides (Those being the punk bride, biker bride, older bride, peppy bride and African American bride) only talk during the church, with their criteria scene being one of the more memorable moments of the movie.
* AwesomeArt: Despite it being rushed due to lack of budget. The prospective brides at the end are a rather impressive. With the crew gathering over a thousand women (& men!) to chase Jimmie.
* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: After Artie puts the ad in the paper, the film shows various women across the city noticing and getting dressed for the ad. With only a dozen or so in the church near the end. Then cuts straight to Jimmie's friends seeing HUNDREDS of brides mob the church. For context, the original Seven Chances had a slow start of one bride, the a few, then a few dozen before hundreds fill the church and streets.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
-During the church scene, they could've had the previous lovers of Jimmy show up knowing he's worth money now. It could've been both funny and interesting to see them interact with both Jimmy again and all the other brides.(Plus a reference to Brideless Groom.)
-On that note the entire bride chase feels rather wasted. Given that some of the brides have some personality plus having more women chasing than Seven Chances, they could've made a chase that was more chaotic or at least on the standard of Seven Chance's chase. (Their was some aspects in the trailers that didn't make the cut, like Jimmy enter a bus to see dozens of brides filling it, or jumping from the top of buses full of brides with more filling the street.)
* OneSceneWonder: The main talkers of the brides (Those being the punk bride, biker bride, older bride, peppy bride and African American bride) only talk during the church, with their criteria scene being one of the more memorable moments of the movie.
* AwesomeArt: Despite it being rushed due to lack of budget. The prospective brides at the end are a rather impressive. With the crew gathering over a thousand women (& men!) to chase Jimmie.
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* AlasPoorScrappy: While Vienna is hardly the most beloved Bachelorette, after the post break-up interview with Jake, while clearly not innocent herself in the faults of their relationship, Jake's treatment of her during said interview gained her a load of sympathy, especially after the moment he violently screamed at her, before going back to casually chatting with Chris, showing she just might have been a victim of verbal/emotional abuse during their short lived engagement.
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* AlasPoorScrappy: AlasPoorScrappy:
** While Vienna is hardly the most beloved Bachelorette, after the post break-up interview with Jake, while clearly not innocent herself in the faults of their relationship, Jake's treatment of her during said interview gained her a load of sympathy, especially after the moment he violently screamed at her, before going back to casually chatting with Chris, showing she just might have been a victim of verbal/emotional abuse during their short lived engagement.
** While Vienna is hardly the most beloved Bachelorette, after the post break-up interview with Jake, while clearly not innocent herself in the faults of their relationship, Jake's treatment of her during said interview gained her a load of sympathy, especially after the moment he violently screamed at her, before going back to casually chatting with Chris, showing she just might have been a victim of verbal/emotional abuse during their short lived engagement.
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** Some fans like Nick Viall as the Bachelor and felt he was a good choice after having been runner-up on two previous seasons. Other fans cannot stand him for being an AttentionWhore who just wanted to extend his FifteenMinutesOfFame. The fact that he and his winner (Vanessa) broke up not long after doesn't help.
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** Some fans like Nick Viall as the Bachelor and felt he was a good choice after having been runner-up on two previous seasons. Other fans cannot stand him for being an AttentionWhore who just wanted to extend his FifteenMinutesOfFame. The fact that he and his winner (Vanessa) broke up not long after doesn't help. Then with his podcast a lot of other Bachelor alums have taken to calling him out on some his views, defending Bachelors and Bachelorettes he's called out, which Nick will usually then take as a personal slight against him.
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** After his failure to choose either Jenna or [=DeAnna=], Brad quickly became Bachelor Nation's public enemy #1! Bear in mind that this was before Juan Pablo, Brad was easily the most hated Bachelor up to that point. So to peoples unpleasant surprise, when it was announced that Brad would have another go around as the Bachelor, the Bachelor Nation did not react well. However, as his season went on, it became clearer and clearer, Brad did seem to have an emotional investment with the ladies, particularly Emily, and seemed to have matured from his past mistakes. So when he proposed, and Emily accepted, it was a well thought of moment. Even when their relationship didn't make it to marriage, fans still tend to look back more fondly on Brad's second tenure as the Bachelor much more fondly than his first.
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** After his failure to choose either Jenna or [=DeAnna=], Brad quickly became Bachelor Nation's public enemy #1! Bear in mind that this was before Juan Pablo, Brad was easily the most hated Bachelor up to that point. So to peoples unpleasant surprise, when it was announced that Brad would have another go around as the Bachelor, the Bachelor Nation did not react well. However, as his season went on, it became clearer and clearer, Brad did seem to have an emotional investment with the ladies, particularly Emily, and seemed to have matured from his past mistakes. So when he proposed, and Emily accepted, it was a well thought of moment. Even when their relationship didn't make it to marriage, fans still tend to look back much more fondly on Brad's second tenure as the Bachelor much more fondly than his first.Bachelor.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: Despite it being rushed due to lack of budget. The prospective brides at the end are a rather impressive. With the crew gathering over a thousand women (& men!) to chase Jimmie.
* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: After Artie puts the ad in the paper, the film shows various women across the city noticing and getting dressed for the ad. With only a dozen or so in the church near the end. Then cuts straight to Jimmie's friends seeing HUNDREDS of brides mob the church. For context, the original Seven Chances had a slow start of one bride, the a few, then a few dozen before hundreds fill the church and streets.
* OneSceneWonder: The main talkers of the brides (Those being the punk bride, biker bride, older bride, peppy bride and African American bride) only talk during the church, with their criteria scene being one of the more memorable moments of the movie.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
** During the church scene, they could've had the previous lovers of Jimmy show up knowing he's worth money now. It could've been both funny and interesting to see them interact with both Jimmy again and all the other brides.(Plus a reference to Brideless Groom.)
** On that note the entire bride chase feels rather wasted. Given that some of the brides have some personality plus having more women chasing than Seven Chances, they could've made a chase that was more chaotic or at least on the standard of Seven Chance's chase. (Their was some aspects in the trailers that didn't make the cut, like Jimmy enter a bus to see dozens of brides filling it, or jumping from the top of buses full of brides with more filling the street.)
* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: Despite it being rushed due to lack of budget. The prospective brides at the end are a rather impressive. With the crew gathering over a thousand women (& men!) to chase Jimmie.
* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: After Artie puts the ad in the paper, the film shows various women across the city noticing and getting dressed for the ad. With only a dozen or so in the church near the end. Then cuts straight to Jimmie's friends seeing HUNDREDS of brides mob the church. For context, the original Seven Chances had a slow start of one bride, the a few, then a few dozen before hundreds fill the church and streets.
* OneSceneWonder: The main talkers of the brides (Those being the punk bride, biker bride, older bride, peppy bride and African American bride) only talk during the church, with their criteria scene being one of the more memorable moments of the movie.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
** During the church scene, they could've had the previous lovers of Jimmy show up knowing he's worth money now. It could've been both funny and interesting to see them interact with both Jimmy again and all the other brides.(Plus a reference to Brideless Groom.)
** On that note the entire bride chase feels rather wasted. Given that some of the brides have some personality plus having more women chasing than Seven Chances, they could've made a chase that was more chaotic or at least on the standard of Seven Chance's chase. (Their was some aspects in the trailers that didn't make the cut, like Jimmy enter a bus to see dozens of brides filling it, or jumping from the top of buses full of brides with more filling the street.)
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: After Artie puts the ad in the paper, the film shows various women across the city noticing and getting dressed for the ad. With only a dozen or so in the church near the end. Then cuts straight to Jimmie's friends seeing HUNDREDS of brides mob the church. For context, the original Seven Chances had a slow start of one bride, the a few, then a few dozen before hundreds fill the church and streets.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
-During the church scene, they could've had the previous lovers of Jimmy show up knowing he's worth money now. It could've been both funny and interesting to see them interact with both Jimmy again and all the other brides.(Plus a reference to Brideless Groom.)
-On that note the entire bride chase feels rather wasted. Given that some of the brides have some personality plus having more women chasing than Seven Chances, they could've made a chase that was more chaotic or at least on the standard of Seven Chance's chase. (Their was some aspects in the trailers that didn't make the cut, like Jimmy enter a bus to see dozens of brides filling it, or jumping from the top of buses full of brides with more filling the street.)
* OneSceneWonder: The main talkers of the brides (Those being the punk bride, biker bride, older bride, peppy bride and African American bride) only talk during the church, with their criteria scene being one of the more memorable moments of the movie.
* AwesomeArt: Despite it being rushed due to lack of budget. The prospective brides at the end are a rather impressive. With the crew gathering over a thousand women (& men!) to chase Jimmie.
!YMMV for the series
* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: After Artie puts the ad in the paper, the film shows various women across the city noticing and getting dressed for the ad. With only a dozen or so in the church near the end. Then cuts straight to Jimmie's friends seeing HUNDREDS of brides mob the church. For context, the original Seven Chances had a slow start of one bride, the a few, then a few dozen before hundreds fill the church and streets.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
-During the church scene, they could've had the previous lovers of Jimmy show up knowing he's worth money now. It could've been both funny and interesting to see them interact with both Jimmy again and all the other brides.(Plus a reference to Brideless Groom.)
-On that note the entire bride chase feels rather wasted. Given that some of the brides have some personality plus having more women chasing than Seven Chances, they could've made a chase that was more chaotic or at least on the standard of Seven Chance's chase. (Their was some aspects in the trailers that didn't make the cut, like Jimmy enter a bus to see dozens of brides filling it, or jumping from the top of buses full of brides with more filling the street.)
* OneSceneWonder: The main talkers of the brides (Those being the punk bride, biker bride, older bride, peppy bride and African American bride) only talk during the church, with their criteria scene being one of the more memorable moments of the movie.
* AwesomeArt: Despite it being rushed due to lack of budget. The prospective brides at the end are a rather impressive. With the crew gathering over a thousand women (& men!) to chase Jimmie.
!YMMV for the series
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** And then of course there's Wells from Jojo's season. He was instantly well liked for his charm, his funny quips and just seeming to be a fun guy all around. The show noticed it too, and brought him around to serve as the Bartender for "Bachelor's in Paradise," where he offers advice and pep talks to the other Bachelors and Bachelorettes, as well as adding color commentary on events for the audience.
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** And then of course there's Wells from Jojo's season. He was instantly well liked for his charm, his funny quips and just seeming to be a fun guy all around. The show noticed it too, and brought him around to serve as the [[BreakoutCharacter Bartender for "Bachelor's in Paradise," Paradise,"]] where he offers advice and pep talks to the other Bachelors and Bachelorettes, as well as adding color commentary on events for the audience.audience. The fact that he ended up as Creator/SarahHyland's husband, as well as the insanely adorable story of how he didn't just ask for her actual mother and father's permission before proposing but also her ''Series/ModernFamily'' parents Creator/JulieBowen and Creator/TyBurrell's blessing as well [[labelnote:*]]which they gave[[/labelnote]], makes him all the more endearing in many peoples' eyes.
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** Demi still hanging around on "Bachelor In Paradise" after she definitively hooks up with her girlfriend Kristen from back home. Many people point out this defeats the purpose of the show, as she found love and was taking up space for other Bachelors and Bachelorettes to have their chance, therefore the two should have just left the Beach. On the other hand, other people were happy she remained, as her commentary on events was often seen to add levity to some of the more serious moments during the season.
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** And then of course there's Wells from Jojo's season. He was instantly well liked for his charm, his funny quips and just seeming to be a fun guy all around. The show noticed it too, and brought him around to serve as the Bartender for "Bachelor's in Paradise," where he offers advice and pep talks to the other Bachelors and Bachelorettes, as well as adding color commentary on events for the audience.
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** Greg vs. Katie in their breakup during hometowns. One third of the fandom is on Katie’s side, saying that Greg emotionally abused her when she didn’t react to his confession of love in the way he was wanting her to even after she had reassured him all season that he was her front-runner; another third is fully on Greg’s side, saying that Greg was justifiably hurt after pouring his heart out to Katie and getting a seemingly bland reaction in response; and the last third is taking the option in the middle, saying that while Katie screwed up in responding to Greg’s “I love you,” he had no right to blow up at her in the way that he did.
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** Greg vs. Katie in their breakup during hometowns. One third of the fandom is on Katie’s Katie's side, saying that Greg emotionally abused her when she didn’t react to his confession of love in the way he was wanting her to even after she had reassured him all season that he was her front-runner; another third is fully on Greg’s Greg's side, saying that Greg was justifiably hurt after pouring his heart out to Katie and getting a seemingly bland reaction in response; and the last third is taking the option in the middle, saying that while Katie screwed up in responding to Greg’s “I Greg's "I love you,” you," he had no right to blow up at her in the way that he did. did.
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-->'''Hannah''': I just want to say Bachelor Nation, I'm sorry. I'm sorry for this whole thing with Luke and him just being on our television screens for so long, way longer than really any of us ever desired. It's my fault, ''a lot of it his'', but I did it. I was there, I'm sorry. I'm tired of talking about him, Chris are you tired of talking about him?\\
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%%Reuqires citation from a reputable source* UnfortunateImplications: Matt James season had several controversies surrounding the contestants (Rachel's racist behaviour in the past, Abigail (who is partially deaf) being treated as a TokenMinority, the remorseless bullying), but the biggest one was Anna spreading a rumour that newcomer Brittany was an escort. Most importantly, the show has been called-out for spreading this rumour even more by broadcasting it. It has also been noted that the show edited this in a way that made Brittany possibly being an escort "scary" by putting intense music over her making out with Matt, which gives the implication that if Brittany ''was'' an escort, that somehow makes her dangerous. During the Women-Tell-All, Brittany made it very clear that while she is not an escort, there is nothing wrong with being a sex-worker, which is something the show made no effort to do.
%%** Also after the Tell-All, many viewers questioned why the show cut out so many wholesome moments between the women, but felt the need to keep in a rumour that could ruin someone's life. And as Brittany explained during her interview, the rumour has ensured that she will have to defend herself from this accusation the rest of her life.
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Yosef in Clare's season is treated like a selfish jerk by both her and all the other men for calling Clare out on her degrading group date, and while he carries himself in a very arrogant manner and gets unnecessarily personal in insulting Clare (and, frankly, could have just ''left the show''), he does raise a good point about how "naked dodgeball" had nothing to do with winning Clare's heart and was just there to be humiliating, emphasizing a DoubleStandard in the show.
%%** Also after the Tell-All, many viewers questioned why the show cut out so many wholesome moments between the women, but felt the need to keep in a rumour that could ruin someone's life. And as Brittany explained during her interview, the rumour has ensured that she will have to defend herself from this accusation the rest of her life.
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Yosef in Clare's season is treated like a selfish jerk by both her and all the other men for calling Clare out on her degrading group date, and while he carries himself in a very arrogant manner and gets unnecessarily personal in insulting Clare (and, frankly, could have just ''left the show''), he does raise a good point about how "naked dodgeball" had nothing to do with winning Clare's heart and was just there to be humiliating, emphasizing a DoubleStandard in the show.
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%%** Also after the Tell-All, many viewers questioned why the show cut out so many wholesome moments between the women, but felt the need to keep in a rumour that could ruin someone's life. And as Brittany explained during her interview, the rumour has ensured that she will have to defend herself from this accusation the rest of her life.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: After everything that [[TheScrappy Clare Crawley]] put her contestants and the Bachelor Nation through, the fandom almost immediately jumped back on board for Season 16 when [[BreakoutCharacter Tayshia Adams]] came in to take her place. Her first action proved how wise this decision really was, as she called off the Rose Ceremony, to let everyone relax and take the time to get to know them all.
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* TakeThatScrappy: Hannah's complete tearing down of Luke P, after surprisingly showing up at the final rose ceremony, making it perfectly clear she doesn't want him there, over and over again. Special mentions goes towards her physically lifting up the rose pedestal and walking past him after he refused to leave, the other three guys coming forward to support her, and fan favorite Tyler C. delivering a chilling "Or what!" after Luke P threatens the guys to "Lay your hands off of me..." leading to Luke P look completely intimidated and fearful of the man.
** Later on during the tell all, when Hannah and the other men once again tear him down in front of the entire live audience, unable to take any more of it like a man, he gets up and walks out of the studio like the whiny little bitch-boy he is, with even Chris Harrison concluding, "I thinks that the perfect symbol of lets move on," with Hannah agreeing, "The Luke P. show is over," and openly apologizing not just to the men, but to the Bachelor Nation for keeping him around so long.
** Later on during the tell all, when Hannah and the other men once again tear him down in front of the entire live audience, unable to take any more of it like a man, he gets up and walks out of the studio like the whiny little bitch-boy he is, with even Chris Harrison concluding, "I thinks that the perfect symbol of lets move on," with Hannah agreeing, "The Luke P. show is over," and openly apologizing not just to the men, but to the Bachelor Nation for keeping him around so long.
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* TakeThatScrappy: Hannah's complete tearing down of Luke P, after surprisingly showing up at the final rose ceremony, making it perfectly clear she doesn't want him there, over and over again. Special mentions mention goes towards toward her physically lifting up the rose pedestal and walking past him after he refused to leave, the other three guys coming forward to support her, and fan favorite Tyler C. delivering a chilling "Or what!" after Luke P threatens the guys to "Lay your hands off of me..." leading to Luke P look completely intimidated and fearful of the man.
** Later on during the tell all, when Hannah and the other men once again tear him down in front of the entire live audience,unable to take any more of it like a man, he gets up and walks out of the studio like the whiny little bitch-boy he is, with even studio. Even Chris Harrison concluding, concludes, "I thinks that think that's the perfect symbol of lets let's move on," with Hannah agreeing, "The Luke P. show is over," and openly apologizing not just to the men, but to the Bachelor Nation for keeping him around so long.
** Later on during the tell all, when Hannah and the other men once again tear him down in front of the entire live audience,
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** Like Peter, Matt James as the Bachelor is very polarizing. While he isn't hated, not in the least, being seen as a genuine nice guy with a good heart, as well as his historic turn as the first African-American Bachelor, his inability to put an end to the drama with Victoria for so long led to many detractors.
** Dale to a lesser extent. He really didn't seem to be the villain of his short stay, or even a bad person in general, the fact that he was the obsession of Clare Crawley, often seen to be the worst Bachelorette in the history of the franchise, who would often times treat the other men like shit because they weren't Dale, he received his share of hostility from the Bachelor Nation. Not helped by the fact that he and Clare broke up shortly after her aborted time as the Bachelorette, ''twice''.
** Dale to a lesser extent. He really didn't seem to be the villain of his short stay, or even a bad person in general, the fact that he was the obsession of Clare Crawley, often seen to be the worst Bachelorette in the history of the franchise, who would often times treat the other men like shit because they weren't Dale, he received his share of hostility from the Bachelor Nation. Not helped by the fact that he and Clare broke up shortly after her aborted time as the Bachelorette, ''twice''.
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* MorePopularReplacement: Tayshia for Clare. In comparison Tayshia has proven to act much more maturely than Clare, a woman over a decade older than her, and has treated all the Bachelors kinder and more compassionately in her first evening alone than Clare did (unless they were Dale), during the entirety of her short run as Bachelorette.
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* MorePopularReplacement: Tayshia for Clare. In comparison Tayshia has proven to act much more maturely than Clare, a woman over a decade older than her, and has treated all the Bachelors kinder and more compassionately in her first evening alone than Clare did (unless they were Dale), during the entirety of her short run as Bachelorette. During the rest of the season she proved to have a genuine interest in getting to know all the men, kept a level head when confronting the inevitable drama that was thrown her way, responding in a firm but even tempered manner, and in general really just kept continuing to live up to the friendly, empathetic and sweet-natured woman she had been seen as throughout her tenure in the franchise.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Both Jason and Molly became very disliked after Jason broke off his engagement with Melissa, during the After The Rose special, to get back together with Molly who was the runner up. However the fact that the two are, as of over 10 years later, still together, being HappilyMarried and having [[BabiesEverAfter a daughter]] to boot, people have come to realize, that while Jason went about it the wrong way, he ultimately made the right choice.
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** Both Jason and Molly became very disliked after Jason broke off his engagement with Melissa, during the After The Rose special, to get back together with Molly who was the runner up. However the fact that the two are, as of over 10 years later, still together, being HappilyMarried and having [[BabiesEverAfter a daughter]] to boot, people have come to realize, that while Jason went about it the wrong way, he ultimately made the rightchoice.choice.
** After his failure to choose either Jenna or [=DeAnna=], Brad quickly became Bachelor Nation's public enemy #1! Bear in mind that this was before Juan Pablo, Brad was easily the most hated Bachelor up to that point. So to peoples unpleasant surprise, when it was announced that Brad would have another go around as the Bachelor, the Bachelor Nation did not react well. However, as his season went on, it became clearer and clearer, Brad did seem to have an emotional investment with the ladies, particularly Emily, and seemed to have matured from his past mistakes. So when he proposed, and Emily accepted, it was a well thought of moment. Even when their relationship didn't make it to marriage, fans still tend to look back more fondly on Brad's second tenure as the Bachelor much more fondly than his first.
** Both Jason and Molly became very disliked after Jason broke off his engagement with Melissa, during the After The Rose special, to get back together with Molly who was the runner up. However the fact that the two are, as of over 10 years later, still together, being HappilyMarried and having [[BabiesEverAfter a daughter]] to boot, people have come to realize, that while Jason went about it the wrong way, he ultimately made the right
** After his failure to choose either Jenna or [=DeAnna=], Brad quickly became Bachelor Nation's public enemy #1! Bear in mind that this was before Juan Pablo, Brad was easily the most hated Bachelor up to that point. So to peoples unpleasant surprise, when it was announced that Brad would have another go around as the Bachelor, the Bachelor Nation did not react well. However, as his season went on, it became clearer and clearer, Brad did seem to have an emotional investment with the ladies, particularly Emily, and seemed to have matured from his past mistakes. So when he proposed, and Emily accepted, it was a well thought of moment. Even when their relationship didn't make it to marriage, fans still tend to look back more fondly on Brad's second tenure as the Bachelor much more fondly than his first.
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** Peter Webber as the Bachelor is an interesting case as his season is seen to be lackluster overall. While not really hated, he was found to be relatively boring, and didn't seem to have chemistry with any of his ladies. His indecisiveness and floundering Rose Ceremonies didn't help, nor did the fact that he and his bachelorette broke up literal days after the final rose.
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*** The biggest thing about it was his refusal to apologize and take accountability for the actions and how they affected Caelynn, yet once (well multiple times actually) again turning on the water works when some of Caelynn's friends accused him of not being entirely ethical that really annoyed some people.
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** Daria Rose, a Hurricane Sandy survivor who was accepted to seven Ivy League schools is eliminated in the first week of Clayton’s season.
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* HilariousInHindsight: On his appearance during the 2019 season, Creator/BillyEichner jokingly suggested that Colton Underwood might be gay. As it turned out, he was right.
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* UnfortunateImplications: Matt James season had several controversies surrounding the contestants (Rachel's racist behaviour in the past, Abigail (who is partially deaf) being treated as a TokenMinority, the remorseless bullying), but the biggest one was Anna spreading a rumour that newcomer Brittany was an escort. Most importantly, the show has been called-out for spreading this rumour even more by broadcasting it. It has also been noted that the show edited this in a way that made Brittany possibly being an escort "scary" by putting intense music over her making out with Matt, which gives the implication that if Brittany ''was'' an escort, that somehow makes her dangerous. During the Women-Tell-All, Brittany made it very clear that while she is not an escort, there is nothing wrong with being a sex-worker, which is something the show made no effort to do.
** Also after the Tell-All, many viewers questioned why the show cut out so many wholesome moments between the women, but felt the need to keep in a rumour that could ruin someone's life. And as Brittany explained during her interview, the rumour has ensured that she will have to defend herself from this accusation the rest of her life.
** Also after the Tell-All, many viewers questioned why the show cut out so many wholesome moments between the women, but felt the need to keep in a rumour that could ruin someone's life. And as Brittany explained during her interview, the rumour has ensured that she will have to defend herself from this accusation the rest of her life.
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*** The biggest thing about it was his refusal to apologize and take accountability for the actions and how they affected Caelynn, yet once (well multiple times actually) again turning on the water works when some of Caelynn's friends accused him of not being entirely ethical that really annoyed some people.
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** Greg vs. Katie in their breakup during hometowns. One third of the fandom is on Katie’s side, saying that Greg emotionally abused her when she didn’t react to his confession of love in the way he was wanting her to even after she had reassured him all season that he was her front-runner; another third is fully on Greg’s side, saying that Greg was justifiably hurt after pouring his heart out to Katie and getting a seemingly bland reaction in response; and the last third is taking the option in the middle, saying that while Katie screwed up in responding to Greg’s “I love you,” he had no right to blow up at her in the way that he did.
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** Later on during the tell all, when Hannah and the other men once again tear him down in front of the entire live audience, unable to take any more of it like a man, he gets up and walks out of the studio like the whiny little bitch-boy he is, with even Chris Harrison concluding, "I thinks that the perfect symbol of lets move on," with Hannah agreeing, "The Luke show is over," and openly apologizing not just to the men, but to the Bachelor Nation for keeping him around so long.
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** Later on during the tell all, when Hannah and the other men once again tear him down in front of the entire live audience, unable to take any more of it like a man, he gets up and walks out of the studio like the whiny little bitch-boy he is, with even Chris Harrison concluding, "I thinks that the perfect symbol of lets move on," with Hannah agreeing, "The Luke P. show is over," and openly apologizing not just to the men, but to the Bachelor Nation for keeping him around so long.
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** Brittany from Matt James’ season. She is put into a horrible position by being one of the “new girls”, and gets treated the worst simply because she kisses Matt. She gets slut-shamed, bullied to her face, and worst of all, gets accused of being an escort by Anna. And then the show broadcasted it, basically spreading the rumour worldwide, and potentially ruining her life.
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** It gets even worse as he's come out as gay, which makes the red-flags in his behavior now seem as a [[HaveIMentionedIAmHeterosexualToday desperate attempt to appear heterosexual]].
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* UnfortunateImplications: Matt James season had several controversies surrounding the contestants (Rachel's racist behaviour in the past, Abigail (who is partially deaf) being treated as a TokenMinority, the remorseless bullying), but the biggest one was Anna spreading a rumour that newcomer Brittany was an escort.most importantly, the show has been called-out for spreading this rumour even more by broadcasting it. It has also been noted that the show edited this in a way that made Brittany possibly being an escort "scary" by putting intense music over her making out with Matt, which gives the implication that if Brittany ''was'' an escort, that somehow makes her dangerous. During the Women-Tell-All, Brittany made it very clear that while she is not an escort, there is nothing wrong with being a sex-worker, which is something the show made no effort to do.
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* UnfortunateImplications: Matt James season had several controversies surrounding the contestants (Rachel's racist behaviour in the past, Abigail (who is partially deaf) being treated as a TokenMinority, the remorseless bullying), but the biggest one was Anna spreading a rumour that newcomer Brittany was an escort.most Most importantly, the show has been called-out for spreading this rumour even more by broadcasting it. It has also been noted that the show edited this in a way that made Brittany possibly being an escort "scary" by putting intense music over her making out with Matt, which gives the implication that if Brittany ''was'' an escort, that somehow makes her dangerous. During the Women-Tell-All, Brittany made it very clear that while she is not an escort, there is nothing wrong with being a sex-worker, which is something the show made no effort to do.
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* UnfortunateImplications: Matt James season had several controversies surrounding the contestants (Rachel's racist behaviour in the past, Abigail (who is partially deaf) being treated as a TokenMinority, the remorseless bullying), but the biggest one was Anna spreading a rumour that newcomer Brittany was an escort.most importantly, the show has been called-out for spreading this rumour even more by broadcasting it. It has also been noted that the show edited this in a way that made Brittany possibly being an escort "scary" by putting intense music over her making out with Matt, which gives the implication that if Brittany ''was'' an escort, that somehow makes her dangerous. During the Women-Tell-All, Brittany made it very clear that while she is not an escort, there is nothing wrong with being a sex-worker, which is something the show made no effort to do.
** Also after the Tell-All, many viewers questioned why the show cut out so many wholesome moments between the women, but felt the need to keep in a rumour that could ruin someone's life. And as Brittany explained during her interview, the rumour has ensured that she will have to defend herself from this accusation the rest of her life.
** Also after the Tell-All, many viewers questioned why the show cut out so many wholesome moments between the women, but felt the need to keep in a rumour that could ruin someone's life. And as Brittany explained during her interview, the rumour has ensured that she will have to defend herself from this accusation the rest of her life.
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* MoralEventHorizon: From Matt’s season, many fans feel the Anna spreading a rumor that Brittany, one of five new girls who arrived on week three, was an escort. This rumor could potentially ruin Brittany’s life.
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* MoralEventHorizon: From Matt’s season, many fans feel the Anna spreading a rumor that Brittany, one of five new girls who arrived on week three, was an escort. This rumor could potentially ruin Brittany’s life.life, and many people have pointed it out that it could possibly put her in danger.
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** Katie from Matt's season. After the first couple episodes portrayed her as the quirky one of the contestants, Katie went on to win over fans by being a genuinely NiceGirl, as well as the only one brave enough to tell the bachelor about the toxic bullying in the house. Even though she is sent home rather unceremoniously, many have called her the highlight of a season filled with unnecessary drama and toxicity.
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** Katie from Matt's season. After the first couple episodes portrayed her as the quirky one of the contestants, Katie went on to win over fans by being a genuinely NiceGirl, as well as the only one brave enough to tell the bachelor about call out the toxic bullying in the house. Even though she is sent home rather unceremoniously, many have called her the highlight of a season filled with unnecessary drama and toxicity.
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** Katie from Matt's season. After the first couple episodes portrayed her as the quirky one of the contestants, Katie went on to win over fans by being a genuinely NiceGirl, as well as the only one brave enough to tell the bachelor about the toxic bullying in the house. Even though she is sent home rather unceremoniously, many have called her the highlight of a season filled with unnecessary drama and toxicity.
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* MoralEventHorizon: From Matt’s season, many fans feel the Anna spreading a rumor that Brittany, one of five new girls who arrived on week three, was an escort. This rumor could potentially ruin Brittany’s life.
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** Yosef in Clare's season is treated like a selfish jerk by both her and all the other men for calling Clare out on her degrading group date. While it was not necessarily Clare's fault, the fact that no one empathizes with what Yosef is saying shows a DoubleStandard in the show. Yosef is making good points about how "naked dodgeball" has nothing to do with winning Clare's heart, and is just there to be humiliating. Instead of taking his concerns seriously, Clare yells at him for being disrespectful and kicks him off the show. Even during the Tell All, everyone in the show was still against him. If the genders were reversed, and a female contestant voiced her concerns in a similar way, she likely wouldn't have been treated so harshly. On the flip side, it's also sexist towards Clare, as Chris Harrison asks Yosef if he would speak that way to his daughter (a child). Apparently, adult women need to be treated like children and never be criticized for their behaviour.
** Yosef in Clare's season is treated like a selfish jerk by both her and all the other men for calling Clare out on her degrading group date. While it was not necessarily Clare's fault, the fact that no one empathizes with what Yosef is saying shows a DoubleStandard in the show. Yosef is making good points about how "naked dodgeball" has nothing to do with winning Clare's heart, and is just there to be humiliating. Instead of taking his concerns seriously, Clare yells at him for being disrespectful and kicks him off the show. Even during the Tell All, everyone in the show was still against him. If the genders were reversed, and a female contestant voiced her concerns in a similar way, she likely wouldn't have been treated so harshly. On the flip side, it's also sexist towards Clare, as Chris Harrison asks Yosef if he would speak that way to his daughter (a child). Apparently, adult women need to be treated like children and never be criticized for their behaviour.
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**UnintentionallySympathetic: Yosef in Clare's season is treated like a selfish jerk by both her and all the other men for calling Clare out on her degrading group date. While it was not necessarily Clare's fault, date, and while he carries himself in a very arrogant manner and gets unnecessarily personal in insulting Clare (and, frankly, could have just ''left the fact that no one empathizes with what Yosef is saying shows show''), he does raise a DoubleStandard in the show. Yosef is making good points point about how "naked dodgeball" has had nothing to do with winning Clare's heart, heart and is was just there to be humiliating. Instead of taking his concerns seriously, Clare yells at him for being disrespectful and kicks him off the show. Even during the Tell All, everyone humiliating, emphasizing a DoubleStandard in the show was still against him. If the genders were reversed, and a female contestant voiced her concerns in a similar way, she likely wouldn't have been treated so harshly. On the flip side, it's also sexist towards Clare, as Chris Harrison asks Yosef if he would speak that way to his daughter (a child). Apparently, adult women need to be treated like children and never be criticized for their behaviour.show.
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