History YMMV / TheAvengers

** Literally everything about "The Avengers'' #20. Carol Danvers was [[MindRaped mentally compelled to fall in love with Marcus]], [[MedicalRapeAndImpregnate impregnated with his genetically engineered clone-avatar]], and then had her memories of the seduction and impregnation erased. She had to go through the horror of giving birth to a baby she did not remember conceiving. When he aged literally overnight into a grown man, she immediately fell in love with him upon seeing him. She abandoned her friends in the Avengers to go off to Limbo with him. And worse, all of her friends see absolutely nothing wrong with this! This issue was so badly written that this turned into AscendedFridgeHorror.

** Jason Aaron's run is one of the most unpopular runs yet. His characterization of many characters is questionable at best, and completely contradictory at worst. Robbie Reyes being the worst offender, going from a tragic and complex loner to jobbing PluckyComicRelief. His stories constantly try to change established canon for the sake of leaving a mark, tons of gimmick-based plots occur, and most stories rely on characters being written completely out of character for shock value. It says something when most concurrent books ignore the book's changes or outright ''mock'' them.

* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
** The second Wasp, Nadia Pym, starts out with a deep dislike for Spider-Man, unable to go a single issue without insulting him in some way. It's hard to let this slide, because not only is she sweet and kind to everyone else (even ''Doctor Doom''), but we are never given a solid reason as to why she seems to [[IrrationalHatred hate him]] so much.
** Carol Danvers in the 2018 volume. Not only does she still hold a grudge against Tony for the events of ''ComicBook/CivilWarII'' (despite Tony being willing to bury the hatchet enough to work, and even flirt, with her), she absolutely refuses to apologize for putting him in a coma (with a blow that would have ''killed him'' if not for his unique physiology), and even makes light of it on occasion. Note this is ''not'' the case in her own title or any other books she and him appear in, where the two are firmly friends again and she feels ''awful'' about what she did.

** The entire story of how Janet and Hank got married, not to mention much of their early relationship. [[ValuesDissonance Granted]], it was UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|of Comic Books}} but even by Silver Age standards, that is all kinds of unintentionally creepy. Their relationship itself starts with Hank taking Janet, fresh from the trauma of her father's death, as his superhero companion and girlfriend. Largely because she reminds him of his late wife. He then spends the next several years regularly being an InsufferableGenius and casual misogynist towards her, which she put up with because she was infatuated with him and wanted to marry him. Then the Yellowjacket debacle happened, where Hank attacked her and the Avengers in a new costumed identity. He told them that he had killed Hank Pym, before choking Janet out and kidnapping her. He proceeds to force a kiss on her. After they get married and the Avengers find out it was Hank all along, none of them say anything about Janet marrying a clearly unhinged Hank Pym. The fact that she was potentially taking advantage of his unstable behavior, or that she was putting herself in serious danger by marrying someone who was dangerously unwell. Things do ''not'' go well, but the infamous slap that follows years later was really something everyone should have seen coming.

** You can suspect that [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks the nineties]] were not a good time, when you get so many of those in a row. First, you had the team with the RomanticPlotTumor between the Black Knight, Crystal and Sersi. The AuthorsSavingThrow was ''ComicBook/TheCrossing'', but it was incredibly snarled, and filled of nonsensical stuff (such as Tony Stark being evil since day one, the Wasp turned into a mutated monster, teen Tony, etc.). The AuthorsSavingThrow of the AuthorsSavingThrow was ''ComicBook/HeroesReborn'', when the Avengers were killed during the ''Onslaught Saga'' and moved to a UltimateUniverse for their own, and redesigned by Rob Liefeld. It was ''so'' bad, Liefeld was fired in the middle of the mere 12-issues deal. The AuthorsSavingThrow of ''that'' was ''ComicBook/HeroesReturn'', by Kurt Busiek and George Perez, and fortunately this time it worked.

** Literally everything about "The Avengers #200". Carol Danvers was [[MindRaped mentally compelled to fall in love with Marcus]], [[MedicalRapeAndImpregnate impregnated with his genetically engineered clone-avatar]], and then had her memories of the seduction and impregnation erased. She had to go through the horror of giving birth to a baby she did not remember conceiving. When he aged literally overnight into a grown man, she immediately fell in love with him upon seeing him. She abandoned her friends in the Avengers to go off to Limbo with him. And worse, all of her friends see absolutely nothing wrong with this! This issue was so badly written that this turned into AscendedFridgeHorror.

** A group of scientists who call themselves "The Enclave", those who first created Adam Warlock, had a mystery cargo in a plane, and crashed into the water. There is a rescue and cleanup, but there is a cocoon down there with some serious PowerIncontinence. It turns out that the Enclave were just a RedHerring: the being inside the cocoon was a resurrected Jean Grey, who had died years before during ComicBook/TheDarkPhoenixSaga.

* ValuesDissonance: Prior to the infamous slap, Hank Pym's treatment of Janet, is just ''filled'' with red flags when looked at from a modern perspective. Shortly after it happened, the slap was treated as a one-time thing and he was presented as having never done anything abusive beforehand, but when one digs through earlier comics it's ''not'' hard to find examples of him being a verbally abusive bully. Never mind, when he created the Yellow Jacket identity, he proposed to Janet, after first knocking her unconscious, kidnapping her from the team, and forcefully kissing her. This happened a good two-hundred issues before the slap, where this kind of thing was much more acceptable and thus didn't immediately damn his character.

** 1960s, there is a special comic book character. A black superhero, named "Black Panther". What do you mean that it is not a veiled reference to the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party Black Panthers]]? No, really, it is not: Stan Lee and Jack Kirby created the character first. There was even a brief attempt to rename the character as "Black Leopard", to escape from the confusion, but it was short lived. Until the late Eighties, the character was almost always referred to as either 'Panther', 'the Panther' or T'Challa (his given), in order to avoid the implications of the name. According to "Comics Should Be Good", it's [[http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/11/27/comic-book-legends-revealed-183/ actually just a coincidence]] that the two have the same name and became prominent at the same time. It is political, in a sense. Black Panthers have been used as a symbol by politically minded black men since the reconstruction of the southern United States following the Civil War. It is short hand for "We are few in number and will leave you alone if left alone, but tear your face off if provoked"...like black panthers. Jack Kirby knew this, and so did Huey P Newton, but by that same token it is a little silly to think political party or the comic book character are referencing one another as opposed to say an earlier reconstruction party or even a World War tank battalion that was referencing a reconstruction era political party. It's akin to using a timber rattlesnake, which represented the thirteen colonies, when a patriotic and or nationalistic US citizen decides "red white and blue" isn't hitting hard enough.

** 1960s, there is a special comic book character. A black superhero, named "Black Panther". What do you mean that it is not a veiled reference to the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party Black Panthers]]? No, really, it is not: Stan Lee and Jack Kirby created the character first. There was even a brief attempt to rename the character as "Black Leopard", to escape from the confusion, but it was short lived. Until the late Eighties, the character was almost always referred to as either 'Panther', 'the Panther' or T'Challa (his civilian name), in order to avoid the implications of the name. According to "Comics Should Be Good", it's [[http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/11/27/comic-book-legends-revealed-183/ actually just a coincidence]] that the two have the same name and became prominent at the same time.

* WinBackTheCrowd: In the 60s and 70s, the Avengers were decently popular, but in later years they were completely overshadowed by Spider-Man and the X-Men. The run by Kurt Busiek and George Perez was a welcomed improvement over the previous runs, but it was still just an obscure CultClassic. In fact, while they were conceiving the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel line, the executives had no faith whatsoever in the Avengers fitting with the new universe, with Mark Millar having to fight tooth and nail to get the project greenlit (and even then, he still had to change the team's name). The success of ''ComicBook/TheUltimates'' and mainstream Marvel stories like ''ComicBook/AvengersDisassembled'' and other events restored the team's popularity, and the MCU fully cemented it.

** Carol Danvers. First she got powers during the explosion of a Kree machine, became a super-hero, and joined the Avengers. Everything was fine... and from there, down she goes. First, she is abducted, drugged and raped by the son of Immortus, who left her pregnant to be "born" on Earth ([[AllThereInTheManual long story...]]). She returned, and then Rogue stole her powers and memories. Charles Xavier helped her to recover her memories, but not her emotional link to them. Then she was abducted by aliens, who unleashed great power in her, and she became Binary, but she lost this power as well. Once more with just the power of Ms. Marvel ("Warbird" by then), she joined the Avengers. But her refusal to point her loss of power (which almost led to disaster in battle), and her alcoholism, got her court-martialed and expelled from the Avengers. The Scarlet Witch created an alternate reality where she was the greatest super-hero... but things got back to normal, and she's just another super-hero of the lot. She returned to the Avengers, only to witness their breakup during Civil War. She took the side of Tony Stark, and had to hunt her old friends... and then, Stark was replaced by Norman Osborn, and she had to join those Avengers she was hunting. Even worse, Osborn included Ms. Marvel in his team... who was actually Moonstone using her first costume. But she's endured long enough to become the new Captain Marvel so she is very much an IronWoobie.

%%** Scarlet Witch. While she's done some questionable things, it's pretty hard not to feel bad for her. Why?

** For Iron Man, both his alcoholism and ComicBook/CivilWar.

** ''ComicBook/SecretInvasion'' provided one for Hank Pym, whose actions in ''ComicBook/CivilWar'' were negated by the reveal that he was a Skrull during that storyline. However, it's established that he was only replaced following ''Avengers Disassembled'', which means that [[NeverLiveItDown his hitting Jan during a mental breakdown]] is still on him.

* AuthorsSavingThrow:
** ''ComicBook/SecretInvasion'' provided one for Hank Pym, whose actions in ''ComicBook/CivilWar'' were negated by the reveal that he was a Skrull during that storyline. However, it's established that he was only replaced following ''Avengers Disassembled'', which means that [[NeverLiveItDown his hitting Jan during a mental breakdown]] is still on him.
** {{Invoked|Trope}} with Quicksilver claiming that he had been a Skrull for a similar period of time [[KarmaHoudini to avoid any punishment for his role in instigating in the]] ''ComicBook/HouseOfM'' and his actions between then and ''ComicBook/SecretInvasion''.
** ''Avengers: The Children's Crusade'' for the Scarlet Witch's involvement in the mass depowering of the mutant race during ''ComicBook/HouseOfM'' by [[RetCon retconning these events to largely be down to]] [[TheChessmaster the manipulations of]] Doctor Doom.
** You can suspect that [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks the nineties]] were not a good time, when you get so many of those in a row. First, you had the team with the RomanticPlotTumor between the Black Knight, Crystal and Sersi. The AuthorsSavingThrow was ''ComicBook/TheCrossing'', but it was incredibly snarled, and filled of nonsensical stuff (such as Tony Stark being evil since day one, the Wasp turned into a mutated monster, teen Tony, etc.). The AuthorsSavingThrow of the AuthorsSavingThrow was ''ComicBook/HeroesReborn'', when the Avengers were killed during the ''Onslaught Saga'' and moved to a UltimateUniverse for their own, and redesigned by Rob Liefeld. It was ''so'' bad, Liefeld was fired in the middle of the mere 12-issues deal. The AuthorsSavingThrow of ''that'' was ''ComicBook/HeroesReturn'', by Kurt Busiek and George Perez, and fortunately this time it worked.
** In a somewhat hilarious manner, Busiek had a back-up story in one issue framed as Jarvis responding to some questions about the Avengers' recent history, that was more-or-less just used so that Jarvis could explain away (IE, retcon) some particularly controversial storylines of the past few years, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and also firmly state that Sam Wilson is not a mutant]].
** After poor writing for issue #200 made it seem like [[ComicBook/CarolDanvers Ms. Marvel]] was brainwashed and raped, and we were supposed to see it as romantic, the following year saw her give a blistering WhatTheHellHero speech to the team for not realizing she was ''still'' brainwashed when she agreed to go off with the guy. It also gave Marcus a KarmicDeath, saying that his experiments caused him to become badly out of temporal synch with Limbo, resulting in him aging into dust within the span of a week after they had returned.

** Wasp, though she crosses into IronWoobie: Her dad died, to kick things off, but she didn't let that get her down too much. Then she joined a superhero team only to be regulated to DistressedDamsel roles and ignored due to being the weakest member of the team (she eventually TookALevelInBadass but it too a long time for her to get there). Then her personal chauffeur starts making advances on her until eventually trying to kill her and Hank or to get her money; the chauffeur, it turns out, is Whirlwind, a villain that constantly kicks her ass when they battle, who's since developed an obsessive crush on her. Then she marries Hank, only for him to be in the middle of a psychotic break down that is partially her own fault, eventually resulting in a painful string of events that involve her almost being mind-raped and killed by Ultron, the crazy robot Hank built, when Ultron tries to make himself a wife, Jocasta, based on Jan's brainwaves (complete with Jan being forced to endure some very NightmareFuel ShamefulStrip FanDisservice), getting slapped across the face and knocked to the floor, forever turning her into a poster child for domestic abuse in comics. THEN, she spends the next bit of time recuperating from that and dealing with a messy divorce and decides to get serious about superheroing, becoming the Avengers' chairwoman and leader. Her leadership is constantly undermined and disrespected however, largely due to misogyny both among the supervillains they fight but also even among some of the team, leading the ''Under Siege'', a devastating attack that only happened because the villains believed she was too weak a leader to stop them[[note]]though she successfully leads the team in repelling the attack, the stress and guilt prompts her to take a leave of absence[[/note]]. Years later, when her and Hank start to patch things up, she's attacked and almost raped by Whirlwind, whose crush has turned him into an obsessed psychopath. Then, after not being allowed to do anything for a while, she's used as a [[spoiler:SacrificialLion]] during ''ComicBook/SecretInvasion''. [[spoiler:During which, she's secretly lost in the Microverse, fighting for her life]]. When she comes back from all this, [[ThePollyanna she quickly gets back into the swing of things]] and happily embraces being a hero again.

* FunnyAneurysmMoment: In one of the first issues, the Wasp was flying and Ant-Man was riding a flying ant. She told him that he should get some wings like hers, as they fly into the adventure. Several years later, Henry Pym does that... as an homage to the Wasp, who had just been killed during a failed Skrull invasion.

** ''Avengers Annual'' #10 in 1981 included a cover blurb that announced, "A Shocking Mystery Guest!" The guest was [[Characters/MarvelComicsCarolDanvers Carol Danvers]], who had been absent for some time before this. But the issue happened to include a one-time extra named [[NamesTheSame "Maddy Pryor"]]. Decades later, readers sometimes confuse this "Pryor" with [[Characters/MarvelComicsMadelynePryor the other one]] because the ComicBook/XMen were guest characters in this ''Annual'', it was written by Creator/ChrisClaremont, and the cover blurb.

!!YMMV Tropes with Their Own Pages
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* CompleteMonster: From Vol. 1:
** Issue #82--"Hostage": The first Aries, real name [[TerroristsWithoutACause Marcus Lassiter]], is the former leader of the terrorist organization known as [[Characters/MarvelComicsZodiac Zodiac]], which seeks to TakeOverTheWorld. Aries leads a hostile attack where he threatens to liquidate the entire population of Manhattan if he doesn't get one billion dollars in 24 hours. After this fails, Aries abandoned his own soldiers and tried to kill everyone in Manhattan, by closing the ForceField to [[CruelAndUnusualDeath suffocate the whole of Manhattan to death]].
** [[TheDon Monsieur Khruul]], from Vol. 1 issues #121-123, was an unusually cruel human foe of the Avengers who, in flashback, burned an entire village to the ground for the purpose of [[SiblingMurder killing his sister]] and [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain the foreign family]] she had made for herself; his niece was the future [[Characters/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyModern Mantis]]. Khruul tortured his former ally the Swordsman and massacred a temple full of priests to find a mystical power, an [[EldritchAbomination eldritch horror]] which ultimately killed him.

** ComicBook/MariaHill may be the biggest example of one in the Franchise/MarvelUniverse. Even her actress in the films happily referred to her as 'the biggest bitch in the Marvel Universe'. She is the woman who tried to arrest ''Captain America'' for reasons she wouldn't be able to arrest him for, going out of her way to sabotage others to get ahead, and generally being a jerk to everyone she meets while her competence as a SHIELD director leaves much to be desired. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Her actions in]] ''ComicBook/SecretAvengers'' do not help with this (a combination of [[WhatTheHellHero]] and [[KickTheDog]]. ''However'', a good number of fans ''do'' sympathise with her, especially thanks to her CharacterDevelopment under Fraction's pen in ''Iron Man'' and the handling by Creator/MarkWaid in his ''Hulk'' work. A number of fans point out that Nick Fury is generally given a free pass for similar stunts, while she gets derided [[note]]which, again, her actress acknowledges, pointing out the DoubleStandard of how when a guy does something cruel and morally questionable, he is a badass, but when a woman does it, she is just a bitch[[/note]]; not to mention, her clear guilt during ''Secret Avengers'' helps to at least humanize her and make it clear that she is not OK betraying Mockingbird or Hulk (but not Daisy; she is happy screwing over Daisy).

* EvilIsCool: Ultron, the Masters of Evil, and Kang are the most stand-out examples.

** Brian Michael Bendis' reboot and Creator/MarkMillar's {{revision}}ing are highly controversial.

* FanonDiscontinuity: As with his X-Men run, anything that Chuck Austen was involved in, no matter how small. The sole exception to this is Lionheart, and even then, she only became genuinely liked after she dropped the Captain Britain title and [[MyRealDaddy was written by Chris Claremont]] in ''New Excalibur''.

* HoYay:
** Captain America and Iron Man's closeness is the stuff of legends, and the HoYay noted in both their solo pages largely comes from the pages of Avengers comics.
** On a similar note, Hawkeye and Captain America; their initial hostility-turned-undying loyalty reads a ''lot'' like UnresolvedSexualTension or an enemies-to-lovers story. That Clint once asked Steve to run away with him (to start their own Avengers team, due to a disagreement Steve was having with the others), and Clint's jealousy towards Bucky and Sam just adds to it.
** Beast and Wonder Man are very close friends. ''Very'' close friends...
** Sunspot & Cannonball, in Jonathan Hickman's run on the book, are never seen apart & their dialogue has been noted as being so filled with homoerotic implications that it could be given to gay couple & no-one would notice.

*** In a somewhat hilarious manner, Busiek had a back-up story in one issue framed as Jarvis responding to some questions about the Avengers' recent history, that was more-or-less just used so that Jarvis could explain away (IE, retcon) some particularly controversial storylines of the past few years, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and also firmly state that Sam Wilson is not a mutant]].

*** Due to ''Hawkeye and Mockingbird'' being cancelled, this ended up happening to Mockingbird herself in ''New Avengers''. In the former book, it ended with her mother being shot and nearly killed, her brother washing his hands of her, and her and Hawkeye breaking up because her PTSD was making her head down a downward spiral that was sucking Clint in too. In the latter though, most of this is ignored, and the only detail anyone remembers is that the two broke up, ignoring the reasons ''why''.

*** {{Invoked|Trope}} with Quicksilver claiming that he had been a Skrull for a similar period of time [[KarmaHoudini to avoid any punishment for his role in instigating in the]] ''ComicBook/HouseOfM'' and his actions between then and ''ComicBook/SecretInvasion''.

* MemeticLoser: Because he is his AlternateCompanyEquivalent, Quicksilver gets quite often compared to Franchise/TheFlash, against whom he is for the most part horribly outclassed. While there are versions of Quicksilver that are faster than some versions of the Flash and there have been times where Quicksilver has been powered up to Flash-like levels in the comics, for the most part Quicksilver on average tends to have very defined limits to his speed while the Flash is nigh-limitless in his potential for speed.
** Another reason could be his twin Scarlet Witch getting the SuperPowerLottery. She is a vastly powerful RealityWarper while he got SuperSpeed. He is not even at the top of that power tier in the Marvel Universe.

*** Since 2005, Scarlet Witch has this in the form of her "No more mutants" proclamation in ''House of M''. Those three words have come to more or less define her character and direction, to the point that it's rare that any aspect of her life other than the Decimation is brought up. Does she even ''have'' a brother anymore?

** ''[[http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/agentx13/52130101/460967/460967_original.jpg This...]]'' '''[[http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/agentx13/52130101/461379/461379_original.jpg This]]''' is what happens when you let Creator/WarrenEllis write the Avengers.

* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Monica Rambeau was rescued after Warren Ellis used her in ''Nextwave''.
** Lionheart after she stopped using the Captain Britain title.

* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Basically every single line-up change in the fluid roster has gotten some criticism, but Rob Liefeld's "Heroes Reborn" stand out in terms of negative feedback. The line lasted for only 12 issues, and Liefeld was fired even sooner than that.

* ValuesDissonance:
** Zigzagged with "The Avengers #200". On the surface, it seems like this trope, since its attitude towards Carol Danvers' impregnation and courtship by Marcus (and yes, that order is right) seems like just old-school borderline misogynistic patriarchy. Except that, even in the day and age it came out it, this story ''horrified'' readers, forcing Marvel to scramble to fix it.
** Prior to the infamous slap, Hank Pym's treatment of Janet, is just ''filled'' with red flags when looked at from a modern perspective. Shortly after it happened, the slap was treated as a one-time thing and he was presented as having never done anything abusive beforehand, but when one digs through earlier comics it's ''not'' hard to find examples of him being a verbally abusive bully. Never mind, when he created the Yellow Jacket identity, he proposed to Janet, after first knocking her unconscious, kidnapping her from the team, and forcefully kissing her. This happened a good two-hundred issues before the slap, where this kind of thing was much more acceptable and thus didn't immediately damn his character.

** Scarlet Witch. While she's done some questionable things, it's pretty hard not to feel bad for her.

* CrackPairing: The crossover ComicBook/AvengersUltraforce has a romance between the Wasp and... Quicksilver? Yes, that's right.
* CreatorsPet:
** Mantis for Steve Englehart, so much so that he would later try to transplant her wholesale into the DC universe as well.
** Some characters in [[Creator/BrianMichaelBendis Brian Michael Bendis']] Avengers comics - Spider-Woman, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones and Ares - are accused of being this. There is some balance though, because Bendis has a tendency to showing his affection by [[BreakTheCutie heartlessly breaking them]], so all four went through some serious crap under his care. But for many fans it's still not enough to equal all the attention he gives them.
* CreepyAwesome: Ultron at times.

* ArcFatigue: Hickman's run, for those who aren't fans of it.
** Also Bendis's run, for those who weren't fans of it.
** And [[RuleOfThree Waid's, for those who aren't fans of it]].
** And [[OverlyLongGag Aarons, for those who aren't fans of it]].

* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** For both ''Civil War'' and ''Civil War II'', the stories cast heroic characters in fairly unsympathetic light, and thus ''this'' is somewhat required for the sake of maintaining continued sympathy with them.
** Taskmaster is a somewhat FriendlyEnemy who's an unscrupulous mercenary willing to work for virtually anyone, but despite having a high reputation he's never successfully became a HeroKiller. He's had multiple opportunities to do so after getting the best of someone, but either he backs down since it's not what he's being paif for, or he decides to do some EvilGloating or KickTheDog and they get a HeroicSecondWind and kick his ass. Is this deliberate on his part? He's GenreSavvy enough to know better yet still does, so is it a deliberate move on his part to give them a fighting chance, or is he just grabbing the IdiotBall? And if it is deliberate, ''why''? He's made it clear in the past it's all JustBusiness to him and so does he just not want the extra hassle of people wanting revenge? Or is it he's just not willing to actually kill a hero since EvenEvilHasStandards, especially given his confession in his 2010 miniseries about ''why'' he's a mercenary, which implies he has a much higher moral standing than he lets on?

* CompleteMonster: [[TheDon Monsieur Khruul]], from Vol. 1 issues #121-123, was an unusually cruel human foe of the Avengers who, in flashback, burned an entire village to the ground for the purpose of [[SiblingMurder killing his sister]] and [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain the foreign family]] she had made for herself; his niece was the future [[Characters/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyModern Mantis]]. Khruul tortured his former ally the Swordsman and massacred a temple full of priests to find a mystical power, an [[EldritchAbomination eldritch horror]] which ultimately killed him.

* StrawmanHasAPoint: Since her return, Scarlet Witch has been attacked by several of her teammates for the events of ''ComicBook/HouseOfM'', even though ''Comicbook/TheChildrensCrusade'' established that she was possessed and manipulated by Doctor Doom. Her critics (namely The Vision and Rogue) are made to look like massive [[JerkAss Jerkasses]] for attacking her, but ''House of M'' wasn't the ''first'' time Wanda lost control of her powers. There is definitely some logic behind the idea that having her on the Comicbook/UncannyAvengers might be dangerous and counterproductive to the team's mission statement.

** Wanda, aka Scarlet Witch, is a strange case as much of her Base Breaker status largely comes down to whether one is more a fan of the Avengers or the ComicBook/XMen. Avengers fans have largely forgiven her for her actions during the ''Disassembled'' and ''House of M'' arcs, mainly because it was established in ''ComicBook/TheChildrensCrusade'' that she was [[NotHimself not herself]] at that time and even with X-Men fans, she's quite popular with female comic book readers and those who struggle with mental illnesses. On the other hand, for most parts of the X-Men fandom, she is viewed as a KarmaHoudini who never got any real punishment. A point of contention is while Cyclops (whose actions also happened under a mental breakdown and possession) gets hunted down like a criminal, she has largely been forgiven. This has been pointed out InUniverse on occasion. Her attempts to fix her mistakes has often been aborted or something wrong happens during the attempts, with fans either saying she should be punished even more or are annoyed that the writers are pulling an invoked RonTheDeathEater for her good intentions.

* WhatAnIdiot: Avengers 317. Iron Man informs the Avengers that an orb in the ship has been booby-trapped to explode if it is touched by anyone except Nebula. The Avengers split up and search for it, aware that they must not touch it. Spider-Man finds it first.\\
'''You would expect:''' That Spider-Man would call the others and then figure out what to do next.\\
'''Instead:''' Spider-Man tries to grab the orb with his webs. If he does not touch it, he should be fine, right? NO!
** Wanda going to Doctor Doom for help in recovering her children. It ended up with her being possessed by the all-powerful Life Force and Doom (somehow) manipulating her into decimating mutantkind. However desperate, no variation of Doctor Doom's help has ever really helped anyone but Doctor Doom (and even then...).

* DorkAge:
** The team in the immediate aftermath of Operation Galactic Storm. Bob Harras wrote ''The Gatherers'' story well, but the roster was horrible to the point where Black Knight, Black Widow and Vision were the only popular characters on the team. Captain America and Iron Man both decided to focus on solo adventures, and Thor left soon afterwards. Wasp and Hank Pym both decided it would be a good time to go MIA. The West Coast Team fared slightly better with War Machine, Hawkeye and Scarlet Witch, but the franchise was overrun with C-list heroes until Captain America rejoined the vanilla team. Deathcry joined at this point, a character who many consider to be the worst Avenger of all time. This led into the widely reviled (although well drawn) ''ComicBook/TheCrossing'' series which made Iron Man evil then killed him and replaced him with his teenage self. It was a change so unpopular that it was decided to kill nearly the nearly entire roster of Avengers in the Onslaught crossover (exceptions being War Machine, Quicksilver, Spider-Man and partially the Hulk) to reboot them in the alternate ComicBook/HeroesReborn universe. This reboot proved so unpopular that Marvel performed a second reboot after only 12 issues. Thankfully Creator/KurtBusiek's reboot worked and restored the franchise to its former glory.
** After the widely loved Creator/KurtBusiek run and a mixed-at-best Creator/GeoffJohns run, Creator/ChuckAusten took over. His run was every bit as terrible as ''ComicBook/TheCrossing'' to the point where Creator/BrianMichaelBendis had to reboot the team yet again with ''ComicBook/AvengersDisassembled''.
** Jason Aaron's run is one of the most unpopular runs yet. His characterization of many characters is questionable at best, and completely contradictory at worst. Robbie Reyes being the worst offender, going from a tragic and complex loner to jobbing PluckyComicRelief. His stories constantly try to change established canon for the sake of leaving a mark, tons of gimmick-based plots occur, and most stories rely on characters being written completely out of character for shock value. It says something when most concurrent books ignore the book's changes or outright ''mock'' them.

* CreatorsPest: Somewhat inversely, Brian Michael Bendis is not subtle about the characters he dislikes - Hawkeye, Carol Danvers, and the Wasp. This becomes particularly apparent in how they TookALevelInJerkass under his pen, were killed off in Hawkeye and Wasp's case, and/or are subject to mean-spirited jokes at their expense. In Hawkeye's case, this comes with a particular brand of NotAsYouKnowThem, namely in having Clint advocate for the lethal option, eventually leading to him killing Bruce Banner, in-spite of the fact Hawkeye is infamously against killing, even to the extent it ruined his marriage.

** In modern times, important story arcs include ''ComicBook/NewAvengers, ComicBook/SecretInvasion'' and in ''ComicBook/JonathanHickmansAvengers'' -- ''ComicBook/{{Infinity}}'' and "Time Runs Out".