History YMMV / TheAdjustmentBureau

15th Oct '14 10:00:00 PM SparkyYoungUpstart
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* ParanoiaFuel: The idea that your whole life's direction, down to what whether or not you're late for work, could be controlled by a group of cosmic beings, especially since [[spoiler: anyone wearing a hat could be one of them]].

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* ParanoiaFuel: ParanoiaFuel:
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The idea that your whole life's direction, down to what whether or not you're late for work, could be controlled by a group of cosmic beings, especially since [[spoiler: anyone wearing a hat could be one of them]].them]].
** Plus the fact that if your life is not going very well, this could be their plan for you and they'll do what they need to to ''keep'' your life that way.
21st Sep '14 1:58:18 AM Morgenthaler
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is everyone working for the Bureau a ManipulativeBastard, or are they WellIntentionedExtremist types?

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Is everyone working for the Bureau a ManipulativeBastard, or are they WellIntentionedExtremist types?
21st Sep '14 1:57:30 AM Morgenthaler
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* HollywoodHistory: We're told that letting humanity off the leash led to the collapse of the Roman Empire and the Dark Ages. The fact that parts of the world outside Europe were doing just fine, or no worse than usual, during that period is ignored. Then again, this might be intentional; David calls attention to Thompson's selective focus when he treats the present like it's all good (to which he can only counter with "could be worse"), so Thompson may be deliberately [[AccentuateTheNegative emphasizing the negative]].
** The collapse went into the dark ages, which lead to the rise of power of the Catholic Church, which if it hadn't had happened may have went to a wholly different set of actions besides the Crusades. This is just one example. The rest of the world may have been "fine", but that doesn't mean there wasn't a large ripple effect. Think of "too big to fail" on a major scale.
21st Sep '14 1:52:57 AM Morgenthaler
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* UnfortunateImplications: In the ending, [[spoiler: the Bureau is not gone - they just deigned to make an exception for David and Elise, and this is their happy ending. Granted, total free will would cause world wide disaster, and the moral of the story is that free will is something you earn -- but are the two of them honestly going to keep on living life as usual, in a world where they know all their friends and family are following a very precise script since they haven't "earned" the right to do otherwise?]]
** The plan is not that detailed. They admit early on they cannot possibly track everyone. [[spoiler:They are only making him lonely and miserable, because that makes him a great POTUS. Otherwise they would not care about him.]]
** The Bureau is not real, and living without them is what we're really doing in real life. It's going OK?
*** [[ParanoiaFuel Are you sure?]]
13th Aug '14 12:22:20 PM WJTaylor4
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is everyone working for the Bureau a ManipulativeBastard, or are they WellIntentionedExtremist types? Is David a heroic everyman standing up for his rights as a human being, or is a selfish jerk turning his back on a chance to save the world, or at least improve it?

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is everyone working for the Bureau a ManipulativeBastard, or are they WellIntentionedExtremist types? types?
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Is David a heroic everyman standing up for his rights as a human being, or is he a selfish jerk turning his back on a chance to save the world, or at least improve it?
11th May '14 9:08:17 PM RUSirius
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*** [[ParanoiaFuel Are you sure?]]
29th Jan '14 6:40:29 PM TVRulezAgain
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is everyone working for the Bureau a CompleteMonster and ManipulativeBastard, or are they WellIntentionedExtremist types? Is David a heroic everyman standing up for his rights as a human being, or is a selfish jerk turning his back on a chance to save the world, or at least improve it?
* HollywoodHistory: We're told that letting humanity off the leash led to the collapse of the Roman Empire and the Dark Ages. The fact that parts of the world outside Europe were doing just fine, or no worse than usual, during that period is ignored. Then again, this might be intentional; David calls attention to Thompson's selective focus when he treats the present like it's all good (to which he can only counter with "could be worse," basically), so Thompson may be deliberately [[AccentuateTheNegative emphasizing the negative]].

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is everyone working for the Bureau a CompleteMonster and ManipulativeBastard, or are they WellIntentionedExtremist types? Is David a heroic everyman standing up for his rights as a human being, or is a selfish jerk turning his back on a chance to save the world, or at least improve it?
* HollywoodHistory: We're told that letting humanity off the leash led to the collapse of the Roman Empire and the Dark Ages. The fact that parts of the world outside Europe were doing just fine, or no worse than usual, during that period is ignored. Then again, this might be intentional; David calls attention to Thompson's selective focus when he treats the present like it's all good (to which he can only counter with "could be worse," basically), worse"), so Thompson may be deliberately [[AccentuateTheNegative emphasizing the negative]].
29th Jan '14 6:39:34 PM billthetaylor
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is everyone working for the Bureau a CompleteMonster and ManipulativeBastard, or are they WellIntentionedExtremist types? Is David a heroic everyman standing up for his rights as a human being, or is a selfish jerk turning his back on a chance to save the world, or at least improve it?
13th Oct '13 5:22:49 AM Badgerwocky
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** The Bureau is not real, and living without them is what we're really doing in real life. It's going OK?
1st Apr '13 7:49:41 AM Austin
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* AntiClimax: After chasing David and Elise throughout New York (eventually having them cornered by Thompson), the Chairman decides to let them have free will and let them go without a fuss, all without even showing his face.
* BrokenAesop: The main message of the movie seems to be ScrewDestiny, as the main character fights to defy "The Plan" and be with the girl he loves. Yet, [[spoiler: we find out that the only reason he's so obsessed with this girl is because they were originally meant to be together in the first place, before the plan changed. Also, David can only effectively fight the plan by receiving help from an Adjustment Bureau Agent on the inside.]]



* WhiteAndGreyMorality: Given the ParanoiaFuel premise, the [[BecauseDestinySaysSo Plan]] that the bureaucrats carry out leads humanity in a generally positive direction. It becomes less a conflict of good vs. evil and more a debate on to what degree HumansAreFlawed, and how hard we're willing to work to [[EarnYourHappyEnding make the Plan unnecessary]].
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