History YMMV / TeenTitans

4th Dec '16 8:51:00 AM XSpectreGreyX
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* DieForOurShip: Beast Boy (Changeling)/Raven vs. Beast Boy/Terra (or Terra II). Fans of the former hated there being a second Terra so much that they actively wished death on the character (they got their wish). Fans of the latter still clung to the hope that Raven would be deep-sixed for even the third Terra, citing that she would make "more sense", getting them hate from [[LesYay Terra III/Power Girl]] fans. After both later Terras were written out of continuity, the shipping competition has since been reset to being between the first Terra and Raven.

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Beast Boy (Changeling)/Raven vs. Beast Boy/Terra (or Terra II). Fans of the former hated there being a second Terra so much that they actively wished death on the character (they got their wish). Fans of the latter still clung to the hope that Raven would be deep-sixed for even the third Terra, citing that she would make "more sense", getting them hate from [[LesYay Terra III/Power Girl]] fans. After both later Terras were written out of continuity, the shipping competition has since been reset to being between the first Terra and Raven.Raven.
** Barbara Gordon for the Dick Grayson/Starfire shippers. Within ''Titans'' comics, Starfire is portrayed as his one true love... just as Barbara is over in the ''Batman'' comics. And from the 90s onwards, Dick was branded and written as ''much'' more of a Batman character [[note]]his solo series regularly crossed over with the other Bat-books and he would eventually take on the role of Batman, appearing in ''several'' Batman ongoings[[/note]]. To say that pairing's shippers are not happy is putting it mildly.



** And then we learn the origin of Bart Allen [[spoiler: a.k.a. "Bar Tor", a villainous and murderous revolutionary from the future with no connection to the Flash Family at all]]. To say that fans of Impulse were pissed would put it lightly.

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** And then we learn the origin of Bart Allen [[spoiler: a.k.a. "Bar Tor", Torr", a villainous and murderous revolutionary from the future with no connection to the Flash Family at all]]. To say that fans of Impulse were pissed would put it lightly.



* MyRealDaddy: It's widely agreed that Devin Grayson is the only writer in recent years who ever really understood not just Roy's character, but Lian's as well.

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It's widely agreed that Devin Grayson (and ''maybe'' Brad Meltzer) is the only writer in recent years who ever really understood not just Roy's character, but Lian's as well.



* TheWoobie: Kid Devil of the current generation. He has the most pathetic back story prior to joining the team, and ends up getting the worst treatment after.
** JerkassWoobie: Yes, Harper murdered a supervillain, turned his back on his friends, went back on heroin, and joined Deathstroke's mercenary team for the chance to kill Deathstroke. But considering that his right arm had been hacked off, was given a prosthetic which actually causes more pain and impairs his abilities as an archer, and his daughter, Lian, died, it's hard not to feel sorry for him. This is magnified by how out-of-character his friends and family acted during ''Rise of Arsenal'', and by how his joining Deathstroke's Titans was mainly due to Cheshire, Lian's mother, guilt tripping him into joining by saying that he "owed" her for Lian's death.

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Kid Devil of the current generation. He has the most pathetic back story prior to joining the team, and ends up getting the worst treatment after.
** JerkassWoobie: Yes, Roy Harper murdered a supervillain, turned his back on his friends, went back on heroin, and joined Deathstroke's mercenary team for the chance to kill Deathstroke. But considering that his right arm had been hacked off, was given a prosthetic which actually causes more pain and impairs his abilities as an archer, and his daughter, Lian, died, it's hard not to feel sorry for him. This is magnified by how out-of-character his friends and family acted during ''Rise of Arsenal'', and by how his joining Deathstroke's Titans was mainly due to Cheshire, Lian's mother, guilt tripping him into joining by saying that he "owed" her for Lian's death.
25th Nov '16 3:25:19 PM nombretomado
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** It's not uncommon to find ''Teen Titans'' crossover pairings, especially ones with Raven. Some the most popular ''Teen Titans'' crossovers are Terra×Ben10, Raven×WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom, Raven×[[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Zuko]], Raven×Ben10, [[Disney/{{Hercules}} Megara]]×Speedy.

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** It's not uncommon to find ''Teen Titans'' crossover pairings, especially ones with Raven. Some the most popular ''Teen Titans'' crossovers are Terra×Ben10, Terra×WesternAnimation/Ben10, Raven×WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom, Raven×[[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Zuko]], Raven×Ben10, Raven×WesternAnimation/Ben10, [[Disney/{{Hercules}} Megara]]×Speedy.
24th Nov '16 9:11:14 AM XSpectreGreyX
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** The New 52 Teen Titans are this ''in spades'', to the point of being mocked by other comic creators ''in-universe''. The first series was cancelled two and half years into its run, incidentally also driving the final nail into DC's Young Justice line, which at one point included teen heroes from three different comic universe. Unlikable characters, a lack of consistent pacing and logic, ExecutiveMeddling, enough dropped subplots and characters to drive even die-hard fans away, drastic changes to once popular characters that turned them toxic, and just weird creative choices (such as incorporating elements of Grant Morrison's ''ComicBook/DoomPatrol'' for some reason, but only on a superficial level) has this era branded as one of the worst in Titans history. It was relaunched with a new creative team, but this series didn't fair much better, for the same reasons as the first, and limped along until ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'', when a new Teen Titans series was launched. Said series implicitly references the New 52 Teen Titans and jabs at how much they sucked.

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** The New 52 Teen Titans are this ''in spades'', to the point of being mocked ''in-universe'' by other comic creators ''in-universe''. creators. The first series was cancelled two and half years into its run, incidentally also driving the final nail into DC's Young Justice line, which at one point included teen heroes from three different comic universe. universes. Unlikable characters, a lack of consistent pacing and logic, excessive fight scenes, ExecutiveMeddling, enough dropped subplots and characters to drive even die-hard fans away, drastic changes to once popular characters that turned them toxic, and just weird creative choices (such as incorporating elements of Grant Morrison's ''ComicBook/DoomPatrol'' for some reason, but only on a superficial level) has this era branded as one of the worst in Titans history. It was relaunched with a new creative team, but this series didn't fair much better, for the same reasons as the first, and limped along until ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'', when a new Teen Titans ''Teen Titans'' series was launched. Said series implicitly references the New 52 Teen Titans and jabs at how much they sucked.sucked.
** The New 52 era was also a big Dork Age for the original Teen Titans. The only characters who initially existed were Nightwing and Arsenal, and Arsenal had his own problems, and it was explicitly said that this team did not exist as the Teen Titans. Garth would later be introduced as an infant, meaning he wouldn't be in any shape to be Aqualad or Tempest... before being reintroduced ''again'' as a racist Atlantean. Donna Troy was reintroduced as a man-hating version of Wonder Woman who was ''killed''. And Wally West was reintroduced years down the line as a {{Race Lift}}ed 13-year-old delinquent with essentially none of the traits of the original Wally with UnfortunateImplications surrounding his character. Needless to say, none of these changes were popular, and the original generation of Titans got the shaft big time. Dan Abnett would later Retcon the hell out of the team, saying that there ''was'' an original Teen Titans, and removing the negatively received traits of Garth and Donna, while ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'' would bring back the Pre-New 52 Wally West.
15th Nov '16 1:20:07 PM rafi
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** ''ComicBook/TitansHunt'' in spades.

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** ''ComicBook/TitansHunt'' in spades.''ComicBook/TitansHunt'', a complex and long story. It began with their members being kidnapped and Deathstroke hired to rescue them. Then we get a new villain society, a cheap Wolverine expy, a flying sheet, an unneeded trip to Russia, Cyborg turned into a complete robot, a new team of Titans from the future trying to kill Troia, and so on, and so on...
12th Nov '16 1:24:55 PM BatmanKalEl
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* OppositesAttract: Most of the {{fan preferred couple}}s invoke this. Especially [[SlapSlapKiss Beast Boy/Raven]].
11th Nov '16 12:40:04 AM Silverblade2
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* BaseBreaker: Terra, chiefly due to the MisaimedFandom and misaimed dislike of her character.

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Terra, chiefly due to the MisaimedFandom and misaimed dislike of her character.
11th Nov '16 12:34:00 AM Silverblade2
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* BizarroEpisode: At least once per season. Mad Mod's two episodes in Seasons 1 and 3 fall into this, as do "Fractured" in Season 2, "Bunny Raven" in Season 3, "Don't Touch That Dial" ''and'' "Mother Mae-Eye" in Season 4, and "Revved Up" in Season 5.

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* BizarroEpisode: At least once per season. Mad Mod's two episodes in Seasons 1 and 3 fall into this, as do "Fractured" in Season 2, "Bunny Raven" in Season 3, "Don't Touch That Dial" Dial", "Employee of the Month" ''and'' "Mother Mae-Eye" in Season 4, and "Revved Up" in Season 5.
7th Nov '16 3:51:02 PM dlchen145
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** This series actually managed to turn Killer Moth into a {{Badass}} EvilGenius. He creates an army of moths that nearly has him ruling the world, and fights the Teen Titans without the need of any effort. Even his costume is cool.

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** This series actually managed to turn Killer Moth into a {{Badass}} badass EvilGenius. He creates an army of moths that nearly has him ruling the world, and fights the Teen Titans without the need of any effort. Even his costume is cool.
6th Nov '16 5:58:27 PM Berrenta
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* AudienceColoringAdaptation:
** Several things ranging from character design to characterization itself were later implemented into the actual comics, with varying results. Also, if you were to ask someone today about the Teen Titans comic mythos, they're much more likely base it on their knowledge of the show.
*** For some specifics: take Cyborg and Raven. The former's popularity in this show (and a few other factors outside of it) have carried over into the comics and even boosted him all the way up to becoming ''a founding member of the '''Justice League''' '' come the New 52 launch. The latter a little less so, but after this show portrayals of Raven have skewed much closer to this show than her original comic appearances in terms of combative powers and appearances.
** This has caused problems with Starfire's reception as a character, as her cartoon self and her comic self are radically different, causing her comic-self to be widely disliked by a large number of fans who were introduced to the series through the show. While both Starfires are loving, affectionate [[ActionGirl action girls]] who are always there for their friends that's about where similarities end in terms of personality. Cartoon!Starfire is a NaiveNewcomer, FunnyForeigner, who speaks in somewhat broken English and [[FishOutOfWater has trouble fitting in due to her vastly different culture.]] Comic!Starfire is a [[BoisterousBruiser hot headed]] BruiserWithASoftCenter who is both a very liberated young lady who isn't nearly as shy or awkward as her cartoon self, speaks perfect English, as well as being very sexually active by American standards and is a major case of MsFanservice. She is also easily enraged and much more prone to violence than her cartoon self. When New 52 tried to emphasis [[InNameOnly her]] original incarnations [[DarkerAndEdgier darker characteristics]] at least part of the backlash was from people who grew up with the Cartoon counterpart, and were confused as to why she was so drastically different. [[note]] Other backlash was due to making her very one dimensional in attempt to make her edgy, giving her a costume that was somehow even MORE revealing than her original incarnation's, essentially just being there as eye-candy, and having Roy have sex with her despite her apparent amnesia.[[/note]] Also of note is her physical appearance. Her cartoon appearance portrayed her as a very skinny young woman with small, but still noticeable curves. Her original comic incarnation was ''so'' curvy that several other Titans affectionately and jokingly [[LampshadeHanging referred to her as]] [[InSeriesNickname "Balloon Bod."]]
*** After the backlash against the writing of the Starfire's character in New 52 became too much DC wrote her out of ''Outlaws'' and gave her her own series. In it her physical appearance and attire is much closer to her cartoon counterparts' appearance. Her personality became something of an amalgam of her Pre-New 52 personality and her Cartoon personality, and her English skills are somewhere in between the two previous incarnations. Arguably she has now become the Titan who is most like her cartoon self.



* InkStainAdaptation:
** Several things ranging from character design to characterization itself were later implemented into the actual comics, with varying results. Also, if you were to ask someone today about the Teen Titans comic mythos, they're much more likely base it on their knowledge of the show.
*** For some specifics: take Cyborg and Raven. The former's popularity in this show (and a few other factors outside of it) have carried over into the comics and even boosted him all the way up to becoming ''a founding member of the '''Justice League''' '' come the New 52 launch. The latter a little less so, but after this show portrayals of Raven have skewed much closer to this show than her original comic appearances in terms of combative powers and appearances.
** This has caused problems with Starfire's reception as a character, as her cartoon self and her comic self are radically different, causing her comic-self to be widely disliked by a large number of fans who were introduced to the series through the show. While both Starfires are loving, affectionate [[ActionGirl action girls]] who are always there for their friends that's about where similarities end in terms of personality. Cartoon!Starfire is a NaiveNewcomer, FunnyForeigner, who speaks in somewhat broken English and [[FishOutOfWater has trouble fitting in due to her vastly different culture.]] Comic!Starfire is a [[BoisterousBruiser hot headed]] BruiserWithASoftCenter who is both a very liberated young lady who isn't nearly as shy or awkward as her cartoon self, speaks perfect English, as well as being very sexually active by American standards and is a major case of MsFanservice. She is also easily enraged and much more prone to violence than her cartoon self. When New 52 tried to emphasis [[InNameOnly her]] original incarnations [[DarkerAndEdgier darker characteristics]] at least part of the backlash was from people who grew up with the Cartoon counterpart, and were confused as to why she was so drastically different. [[note]] Other backlash was due to making her very one dimensional in attempt to make her edgy, giving her a costume that was somehow even MORE revealing than her original incarnation's, essentially just being there as eye-candy, and having Roy have sex with her despite her apparent amnesia.[[/note]] Also of note is her physical appearance. Her cartoon appearance portrayed her as a very skinny young woman with small, but still noticeable curves. Her original comic incarnation was ''so'' curvy that several other Titans affectionately and jokingly [[LampshadeHanging referred to her as]] [[InSeriesNickname "Balloon Bod."]]
*** After the backlash against the writing of the Starfire's character in New 52 became too much DC wrote her out of ''Outlaws'' and gave her her own series. In it her physical appearance and attire is much closer to her cartoon counterparts' appearance. Her personality became something of an amalgam of her Pre-New 52 personality and her Cartoon personality, and her English skills are somewhere in between the two previous incarnations. Arguably she has now become the Titan who is most like her cartoon self.
6th Nov '16 6:34:26 AM XSpectreGreyX
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** Yet even others believe Geoff Johns helped derail the team into a longer-lasting era of poor quality, if not being the main cause. Opinions over this vary a lot more, though Felicia Henderson's part of volume 3 is seldom ever liked.

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** Yet even others believe Many Geoff Johns helped derail the team into a longer-lasting era of poor quality, if not being the main cause. Opinions over this vary a lot more, though and whether the Dork Age began in Johns' own run or not, but Felicia Henderson's part of volume 3 is seldom ever liked.



** The New 52 Titans have become this recently, having been cancelled two and half years into its run, incidentally also driving the final nail into DC's Young Justice line, which at one point included teen heroes from three different comic universe. A lack of consistent pacing and logic, ExecutiveMeddling, and enough dropped subplots and characters to drive even die-hard fans away.

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** The New 52 Teen Titans have become are this recently, having been ''in spades'', to the point of being mocked by other comic creators ''in-universe''. The first series was cancelled two and half years into its run, incidentally also driving the final nail into DC's Young Justice line, which at one point included teen heroes from three different comic universe. A Unlikable characters, a lack of consistent pacing and logic, ExecutiveMeddling, and enough dropped subplots and characters to drive even die-hard fans away.away, drastic changes to once popular characters that turned them toxic, and just weird creative choices (such as incorporating elements of Grant Morrison's ''ComicBook/DoomPatrol'' for some reason, but only on a superficial level) has this era branded as one of the worst in Titans history. It was relaunched with a new creative team, but this series didn't fair much better, for the same reasons as the first, and limped along until ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'', when a new Teen Titans series was launched. Said series implicitly references the New 52 Teen Titans and jabs at how much they sucked.
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