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* TheWoobie: Five-year-old Linneus is the Woobiest thing ever to exist, but Rory definitely qualifies in the present storyline.

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* TheWoobie: Five-year-old Linneus is the Woobiest thing ever to exist, but Rory definitely qualifies in the present storyline. Xanthe's wife, too - it's not easy being the lead Seme's wife in a yaoi comic.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: For a character who, until page fifty, didn't have a ''single line of dialogue'', Mercutio is wildly popular.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: For a character who, until page fifty, didn't have a ''single line of dialogue'', Mercutio is wildly popular. Which is hardly surprising, [[RomeoAndJuliet considering who he's named after.]]

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* BaseBreaker: On one hand, there is a bunch of fans who love Linneus for being cute, dainty, sweet and a LoveMartyr - an ever popular character type among Yaoi fans; on the other hand, you have the ones that can't stand him for being far too effeminate, gutless and weak, even for an {{Uke}}.

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* BaseBreaker: On one hand, there is a bunch of fans who love Linneus for being cute, dainty, sweet and a LoveMartyr - an ever popular character type among Yaoi fans; on the other hand, you have the ones that can't stand him for being far too effeminate, gutless and weak, even for an {{Uke}}.{{Uke}}, and perhaps stupid for lingering on a love that cannot be fulfilled. Likewise, is Xanthe a major asshole or a broken man?
** For that matter, the whole main plot, Xanthe/Linneus, is a major base breaker, much due to the individual character interpretations, but also as and of itself. Run-of-the-mill forbidden love cliche? Or highly complex, tragic situation?
** Yvette also. Many hate her simply [[DieForOurShip for being Xanthe's wife]], many for the fact she openly manipulates him, the rest give her the benefit of doubt or at least think she's too childish to be conscious of all the effects of her actions.



* RonTheDeathEater: Xanthe's wife pops by to greet an old friend, announce an expected pregnancy, and try and talk her husband into spending a little less time away at work. The most rabid parts of the fandom have taken that she, respectively, only continues to pretend to be Linneus' friend to keep him handy for backstabbing, deliberately tried to hurt his feelings with the baby news, and actively and coldly manipulates Xanthe.

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* RonTheDeathEater: Xanthe's wife pops by to greet an old friend, announce an expected pregnancy, and try and talk her husband into spending a little less time away at from work. The most rabid parts of the fandom have taken that she, respectively, only continues to pretend to be Linneus' friend to keep him handy for backstabbing, deliberately tried to hurt his feelings with the baby news, and actively and coldly manipulates Xanthe.



** And Yvette, mostly because she's the biggest obstacle between Xanthe and Linneus, being Xanthe's pregnant wife.

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** And Yvette, mostly because she's the biggest obstacle between Xanthe and Linneus, being Xanthe's pregnant wife. Although Yvette isn't quite as universally hated as Lilith.
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* UnfortunateImplications: As the story goes so far, Lilith's sole purpose seems to be filling the typical role of the evil, bitchy woman holding two men apart that's common in yaoi stories. This is repeated with Gloria, Rhys's fiancee (although how bitchy she wants to be remains to be seen). ''And'' Xanthe's pregnant wife Yvette, who actually is a very nice person and has been ''amazingly'' tolerant (or unknowing) of her husband's affair with Lilith. Her situation is more sympathetic, but she's still just an obstacle.

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* UnfortunateImplications: As the story goes so far, Lilith's sole purpose seems to be filling the typical role of the evil, bitchy woman holding two men apart that's common in yaoi stories. This is repeated with Gloria, Rhys's fiancee (although how bitchy she wants to be remains to be seen).(who has made clear she'll get nasty if Rhys doesn't keep a low profile with his whore-going). ''And'' Xanthe's pregnant wife Yvette, who actually is a very nice person and has been ''amazingly'' tolerant (or unknowing) of her husband's affair with Lilith. Her situation is more sympathetic, but she's still just an obstacle.

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* RonTheDeathEater: Xanthe's wife pops by to greet an old friend, announce an expected pregnancy, and try and talk her husband into spending a little less time away at work. The most rabid parts of the fandom have taken that she, respectively, only continues to pretend to be Linneus' friend to keep him handy for backstabbing, deliberately tried to hurt his feelings with the baby news, and actively and coldly manipulates Xanthe.



* UnfortunateImplications: As the story goes so far, Lilith's sole purpose seems to be filling the typical role of the evil, bitchy woman holding two men apart that's common in yaoi stories. This is repeated with Gloria, Rhys's fiancee. ''And'' Xanthe's pregnant wife Yvette, who actually is a very nice person and has been ''amazingly'' tolerant of her husband's affair with Lilith. Her situation is more sympathetic, but she's still just an obstacle.

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* UnfortunateImplications: As the story goes so far, Lilith's sole purpose seems to be filling the typical role of the evil, bitchy woman holding two men apart that's common in yaoi stories. This is repeated with Gloria, Rhys's fiancee. fiancee (although how bitchy she wants to be remains to be seen). ''And'' Xanthe's pregnant wife Yvette, who actually is a very nice person and has been ''amazingly'' tolerant (or unknowing) of her husband's affair with Lilith. Her situation is more sympathetic, but she's still just an obstacle.



* ViewerGenderConfusion: Despite the authors {{lampshading}} this on the website's character descriptions, some people still confuse Linneus' sex. You can't really blame them, though.

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* ViewerGenderConfusion: Despite the authors {{lampshading}} this on the website's character descriptions, descriptions and dropping a Bridget in-universe, some people still confuse Linneus' sex. You can't really blame them, though.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Xanthe regularly treats everyone around him like dirt (even his childhood friend/romantic interest Linneus), owns a brothel where the staff are essentially slaves (complete with branding), and regularly cheats on his pregnant wife and neglects her. Yet there are countless fans who are willing to defend him because his dad was a jerk and he really loves the man he owns and Yvette is a bitch anyway! Squee!



* UnfortunateImplications: As the story goes so far, Lilith's sole purpose seems to be filling the typical role of the evil, bitchy woman holding two men apart that's common in yaoi stories. This is repeated with Gloria, Rhys's fiancee.

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** And Yvette, mostly because she's the biggest obstacle between Xanthe and Linneus, being Xanthe's pregnant wife.
* UnfortunateImplications: As the story goes so far, Lilith's sole purpose seems to be filling the typical role of the evil, bitchy woman holding two men apart that's common in yaoi stories. This is repeated with Gloria, Rhys's fiancee. ''And'' Xanthe's pregnant wife Yvette, who actually is a very nice person and has been ''amazingly'' tolerant of her husband's affair with Lilith. Her situation is more sympathetic, but she's still just an obstacle.
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** Yvette has only been introduced for a few pages and she's ''already'' being flamed for being married to Xanthe, being pregnant with his child, and for using just the tiniest bit of manipulation so her workaholic husband would actually spend time with her. From just a few pages some fans are convinced that she's a manipulative bitch who tricked Xanthe into their marriage/the baby/both, told Linneus about the baby just to hurt him, and since its clearly an arranged marriage Xanthe doesn't have to be faithful to her because she didn't 'earn' him.

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** Yvette has only been introduced for a few pages and she's ''already'' being flamed for being married to Xanthe, being pregnant with his child, and for using just the tiniest bit of manipulation so her workaholic husband would actually spend time with her. From just a few pages some fans are convinced that she's a manipulative bitch who tricked Xanthe into their marriage/the baby/both, told Linneus about the baby just to hurt him, and since its clearly an arranged marriage Xanthe doesn't have to be faithful to her because she didn't 'earn' him.
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** Yvette has only been introduced for a few pages and she's ''already'' being flamed for being married to Xanthe, being pregnant with his child, and for using just the tiniest bit of manipulation so her workaholic husband would actually spend time with her. From just a few pages some fans are convinced that she's a manipulative bitch who tricked Xanthe into their marriage/the baby/both, told Linneus about the baby just to hurt him, and since its clearly an arranged marriage Xanthe doesn't have to be faithful to her because she didn't 'earn' him.
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** Reed's OCD being treated as a character quirk that makes him seem snobby, instead of a crippling mental disorder.
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* BaseBreaker: On one hand, there is a bunch of fans who love Linneus for being cute, dainty, sweet and a LoveMartyr - an ever popular character type among Yaoi fans; on the other hand, you have the ones that can't stand him for being far too effeminate, gutless and weak, even for an {{Uke}}.

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* DieForOurShip: Lilith is unpopular to say the least, since she has passage into Xanthe's pants while Linneus is left USTing.

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* DieForOurShip: Lilith is unpopular to say the least, since she has passage into Xanthe's pants while Linneus is left USTing.{{UST}}ing.



** Reed's OCD being PlayedForLaughs.
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** Gilder, who's only appeared in 7 pages so far, seems quite popular.
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* UnfortunateImplications: As the story goes so far, Lilith's sole purpose seems to be filling the typical role of the evil, bitchy woman holding two men apart that's common in yaoi stories. This is repeated again with Gloria, Rhys's fiancee.

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* UnfortunateImplications: As the story goes so far, Lilith's sole purpose seems to be filling the typical role of the evil, bitchy woman holding two men apart that's common in yaoi stories. This is repeated again with Gloria, Rhys's fiancee.
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* UnfortunateImplications: As the story goes so far, Lilith's sole purpose seems to be filling the typical role of the evil, bitchy woman holding two men apart that's common in yaoi stories. She has no other characterization, and seems to be treated like an obstacle to be overcome/removed rather than a person. Time will tell if she'll be fleshed out into a character in her own right. This is repeated again with Gloria, Rhys's fiancee.

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* UnfortunateImplications: As the story goes so far, Lilith's sole purpose seems to be filling the typical role of the evil, bitchy woman holding two men apart that's common in yaoi stories. She has no other characterization, and seems to be treated like an obstacle to be overcome/removed rather than a person. Time will tell if she'll be fleshed out into a character in her own right. This is repeated again with Gloria, Rhys's fiancee.
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** On a similar note, Mercutio is described as "gross". The most he is is ''kinky'', which is implied to be the reason for that description. Add that to the fact that he's yet to receive much in the way of screen time, and...

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** On a similar note, Mercutio is described as "gross". The most he is is ''kinky'', which is implied to be the reason for that description. Add that to the fact that he's yet to receive much in the way of screen time, and...

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* UnfortunateImplications: As the story goes so far, Lilith's sole purpose seems to be filling the typical role of the evil, bitchy woman holding two men apart that's common in yaoi stories. She has no other characterization, and seems to be treated like an obstacle to be overcome/removed rather than a person. Time will tell if she'll be fleshed out into a character in her own right.
** This is repeated again with Gloria, Rhys's fiance, who's only scene consists of her - unsurprisingly - being bitchy and saying she will make Rhys's life a living hell if he crosses her. This is despite her very reasonable request that if her womanizing fiance ''must'' cheat on her could he please not humiliate her by allowing it to become public, or she will make Rhys and his mistress's life a living hell. So, again, she could become another block between a yaoi couple.
** The former description of Linneus on the cast page said "He's practically a woman. He wants to have millions of Atros' babies". It's pretty clearly meant as a joke, but needless to say, it wasn't in the best of taste.

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* UnfortunateImplications: As the story goes so far, Lilith's sole purpose seems to be filling the typical role of the evil, bitchy woman holding two men apart that's common in yaoi stories. She has no other characterization, and seems to be treated like an obstacle to be overcome/removed rather than a person. Time will tell if she'll be fleshed out into a character in her own right.
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right. This is repeated again with Gloria, Rhys's fiance, who's only scene consists of her - unsurprisingly - being bitchy and saying she will make Rhys's life a living hell if he crosses her. This is despite her very reasonable request that if her womanizing fiance ''must'' cheat on her could he please not humiliate her by allowing it to become public, or she will make Rhys and his mistress's life a living hell. So, again, she could become another block between a yaoi couple.
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** The former description of Linneus on the cast page said "He's practically a woman. He wants to have millions of Atros' babies". It's pretty clearly meant as a joke, but needless to say, it wasn't in the best of taste.
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Don\'t remove Unfortunate Implications just because you think pointing it out is \"soapboxing.\" Edit the soapboxing; don\'t delete it. That said, I\'ve edited to remove discussion.

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* UnfortunateImplications: As the story goes so far, Lilith's sole purpose seems to be filling the typical role of the evil, bitchy woman holding two men apart that's common in yaoi stories. She has no other characterization, and seems to be treated like an obstacle to be overcome/removed rather than a person. Time will tell if she'll be fleshed out into a character in her own right.
** This is repeated again with Gloria, Rhys's fiance, who's only scene consists of her - unsurprisingly - being bitchy and saying she will make Rhys's life a living hell if he crosses her. This is despite her very reasonable request that if her womanizing fiance ''must'' cheat on her could he please not humiliate her by allowing it to become public, or she will make Rhys and his mistress's life a living hell. So, again, she could become another block between a yaoi couple.
** The former description of Linneus on the cast page said "He's practically a woman. He wants to have millions of Atros' babies". It's pretty clearly meant as a joke, but needless to say, it wasn't in the best of taste.
** On a similar note, Mercutio is described as "gross". The most he is is ''kinky'', which is implied to be the reason for that description. Add that to the fact that he's yet to receive much in the way of screen time, and...
** Reed's OCD being PlayedForLaughs.
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YMMV might be subjectives but let\'s not indulge in soapboxing, especially if it goes threadmode.


* UnfortunateImplications: As the story goes so far, Lilith's sole purpose seems to be filling the typical role of the evil, bitchy woman holding two men apart that's common in yaoi stories. She has no other characterization, and seems to be treated like an obstacle to be overcome/removed rather than a person. Time will tell if she'll be fleshed out into a character in her own right.
** This is repeated again with Gloria, Rhys's fiance, who's only scene consists of her - unsurprisingly - being bitchy and saying she will make Rhys's life a living hell if he crosses her. This is despite her very reasonable request that if her womanizing fiance ''must'' cheat on her could he please not humiliate her by allowing it to become public, or she will make Rhys and his mistress's life a living hell. So, again, she could become another block between a yaoi couple.
** On a different topic, this glamorized version of a private whorehouse seems a little too clean and well tended. ''Actual'' whorehouses were anything BUT clean and glamorous. Plus, any whore that didn't get any clients was either downgraded to servitude, or thrown out altogether.
*** Then again, Teahouse takes place in a fantasy world, and is not bound by the history/present standards of Earth. Still, glamorizing prostitution can have many unfortunate implications regardless.
** The former description of Linneus on the cast page said "He's practically a woman. He wants to have millions of Atros' babies". It's pretty clearly meant as a joke, but needless to say, it wasn't in the best of taste.
** On a similar note, Mercutio is described as "gross". The most he is is ''kinky'', which is implied to be the reason for that description. Add that to the fact that he's yet to receive much in the way of screen time, and...
** After being asked to describe himself, Reed says he's an arms dealer with OCD. This means that every single scene showing his desire for cleanliness is actually caused by a crippling mental illness, but it's still treated like a bizarre character quirk instead of something more serious like depression or anxiety disorder. It doesn't help that his demands to accomodate his compulsions make him seem like a snobby asshole, rather than someone who ''must'' do those things.

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* UnfortunateImplications: As the story goes so far, Lilith's sole purpose seems to be filling the typical role of the evil, bitchy woman holding two men apart that's common in yaoi stories. She has no other characterization, and seems to be treated like an obstacle to be overcome/removed rather than a person. Time will tell if she'll be fleshed out into a character in her own right.
** This is repeated again with Gloria, Rhys's fiance, who's only scene consists of her - unsurprisingly - being bitchy and saying she will make Rhys's life a living hell if he crosses her. This is despite her very reasonable request that if her womanizing fiance ''must'' cheat on her could he please not humiliate her by allowing it to become public, or she will make Rhys and his mistress's life a living hell. So, again, she could become another block between a yaoi couple.
** On a different topic, this glamorized version of a private whorehouse seems a little too clean and well tended. ''Actual'' whorehouses were anything BUT clean and glamorous. Plus, any whore that didn't get any clients was either downgraded to servitude, or thrown out altogether.
*** Then again, Teahouse takes place in a fantasy world, and is not bound by the history/present standards of Earth. Still, glamorizing prostitution can have many unfortunate implications regardless.
** The former description of Linneus on the cast page said "He's practically a woman. He wants to have millions of Atros' babies". It's pretty clearly meant as a joke, but needless to say, it wasn't in the best of taste.
** On a similar note, Mercutio is described as "gross". The most he is is ''kinky'', which is implied to be the reason for that description. Add that to the fact that he's yet to receive much in the way of screen time, and...
** After being asked to describe himself, Reed says he's an arms dealer with OCD. This means that every single scene showing his desire for cleanliness is actually caused by a crippling mental illness, but it's still treated like a bizarre character quirk instead of something more serious like depression or anxiety disorder. It doesn't help that his demands to accomodate his compulsions make him seem like a snobby asshole, rather than someone who ''must'' do those things.
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***Then again, Teahouse takes place in a fantasy world, and is not bound by the history/present standards of Earth. Still, glamorizing prostitution can have many unfortunate implications regardless.
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** This is repeated again with Gloria, Rhys's fiance, who's only scene consists of her - unsurprisingly - being bitchy and saying she will make Rhys's life a living hell if he crosses her. This is despite her very reasonable request that if her womanizing fiance ''must'' cheat on her could he please not humiliate her by allowing it to become public, or she will make Rhys and his mistress's life a living hell. So, again, she could become another block between a yaoi couple.



** On a similar note, Mercutio is described as "gross". The most he is is ''kinky'', which is implied to be the reason for that description. Add that to the fact that he's yet to receive much in the way of screen time, and...

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** On a similar note, Mercutio is described as "gross". The most he is is ''kinky'', which is implied to be the reason for that description. Add that to the fact that he's yet to receive much in the way of screen time, and...and...
** After being asked to describe himself, Reed says he's an arms dealer with OCD. This means that every single scene showing his desire for cleanliness is actually caused by a crippling mental illness, but it's still treated like a bizarre character quirk instead of something more serious like depression or anxiety disorder. It doesn't help that his demands to accomodate his compulsions make him seem like a snobby asshole, rather than someone who ''must'' do those things.
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* DieForOurShip: Lilith. That is all.

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* DieForOurShip: Lilith. That Lilith is all.unpopular to say the least, since she has passage into Xanthe's pants while Linneus is left USTing.



** On a different topic, this glamorized version of a private whorehouse seems a little too clean and well tended. ''Actual'' whorehouses were anything BUT clean and glamorous. Plus, any whore that didn't get any clients was either downgraded to servitude, either thrown out altogether.

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** On a different topic, this glamorized version of a private whorehouse seems a little too clean and well tended. ''Actual'' whorehouses were anything BUT clean and glamorous. Plus, any whore that didn't get any clients was either downgraded to servitude, either or thrown out altogether.
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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Xanthe's adding of two sugar cubes to Linneus' tea made for a very heartwarming scene on its own, but its heartwarming level was upped after a later childhood flashback scene between the two, where Xanthe lightly chastises a young Linneus for putting more than one sugar in his tea.
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** The former description of Linneus on the cast page said "He's practically a woman. He wants to have millions of Atros' babies". It's pretty clearly meant as a joke, but needless to say, it [[{{Understatement}} wasn't in the best of taste]].

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** The former description of Linneus on the cast page said "He's practically a woman. He wants to have millions of Atros' babies". It's pretty clearly meant as a joke, but needless to say, it [[{{Understatement}} wasn't in the best of taste]].taste.
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* The former description of Linneus on the cast page said "He's practically a woman. He wants to have millions of Atros' babies". It's pretty clearly meant as a joke, but needless to say, it [[{{Understatement}} wasn't in the best of taste]].

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* ** The former description of Linneus on the cast page said "He's practically a woman. He wants to have millions of Atros' babies". It's pretty clearly meant as a joke, but needless to say, it [[{{Understatement}} wasn't in the best of taste]].
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** On a different topic, this glamorized version of a private whorehouse seems a little too clean and well tended. ''Actual'' whorehouses were anything BUT clean and glamorous. Plus, any whore that didn't get any clients was either downgraded to servitude, either thrown out altogether.

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** On a different topic, this glamorized version of a private whorehouse seems a little too clean and well tended. ''Actual'' whorehouses were anything BUT clean and glamorous. Plus, any whore that didn't get any clients was either downgraded to servitude, either thrown out altogether.altogether.
* The former description of Linneus on the cast page said "He's practically a woman. He wants to have millions of Atros' babies". It's pretty clearly meant as a joke, but needless to say, it [[{{Understatement}} wasn't in the best of taste]].
** On a similar note, Mercutio is described as "gross". The most he is is ''kinky'', which is implied to be the reason for that description. Add that to the fact that he's yet to receive much in the way of screen time, and...
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* DieForOurShip: Lilith. That is all.



* UnfortunateImplications: As the story goes so far, Lilith's sole purpose seems to be filling the typical role of the evil, bitchy woman holding two men apart that's common in yaoi stories. She has no other characterization, and seems to be treated like an obstacle to be overcome/removed rather than a person. Time will tell if she'll be fleshed out into a character in her own right.

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* UnfortunateImplications: As the story goes so far, Lilith's sole purpose seems to be filling the typical role of the evil, bitchy woman holding two men apart that's common in yaoi stories. She has no other characterization, and seems to be treated like an obstacle to be overcome/removed rather than a person. Time will tell if she'll be fleshed out into a character in her own right.right.
** On a different topic, this glamorized version of a private whorehouse seems a little too clean and well tended. ''Actual'' whorehouses were anything BUT clean and glamorous. Plus, any whore that didn't get any clients was either downgraded to servitude, either thrown out altogether.
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If you don\'t agree with this, please take it to discussion rather than nattering/removing


* TheWoobie: Five-year-old Linneus is the Woobiest thing ever to exist, but Rory definitely qualifies in the present storyline.

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* TheWoobie: Five-year-old Linneus is the Woobiest thing ever to exist, but Rory definitely qualifies in the present storyline.storyline.
* UnfortunateImplications: As the story goes so far, Lilith's sole purpose seems to be filling the typical role of the evil, bitchy woman holding two men apart that's common in yaoi stories. She has no other characterization, and seems to be treated like an obstacle to be overcome/removed rather than a person. Time will tell if she'll be fleshed out into a character in her own right.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: For a character that has yet to have a ''single line of dialogue'', Mercutio is wildly popular.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: For a character that has yet to who, until page fifty, didn't have a ''single line of dialogue'', Mercutio is wildly popular.
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* TheScrappy: The majority of the fandom (if the comments are anything to judge by) hates Lilith, mostly because she comes between Atros and Linneus.

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* TheScrappy: The majority of the fandom (if the comments are anything to judge by) hates Lilith, mostly because she comes between Atros and Linneus. That, and the fact that she is a ''gigantic'' bitch.

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