History YMMV / TalesofPhantasia

1st Jan '18 4:59:26 AM rixion
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Fighting of the Spirit.

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: CrowningMusicOfAwesome:
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Fighting of the Spirit.



* DemonicSpider: Snakemen, who have a chance of petrifying anyone they hit. And one of them usually spawns right behind your party.

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* DemonicSpider: DemonicSpider:
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Snakemen, who have a chance of petrifying anyone they hit. And one of them usually spawns right behind your party.



* GoddamnBats: Ninjas and Assassins have an annoying tendency to use the NinjaLog technique when hit, then reappear right over your head to counterattack. A ninja teleporting right in the middle of your party can either be a blessing or a curse; either you manage to pin him down with melee attacks and beat him to death, or he uses the NinjaLog move repeatedly to carve huge chunks of health out of your entire party.

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* GoddamnBats: GoddamnBats:
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Ninjas and Assassins have an annoying tendency to use the NinjaLog technique when hit, then reappear right over your head to counterattack. A ninja teleporting right in the middle of your party can either be a blessing or a curse; either you manage to pin him down with melee attacks and beat him to death, or he uses the NinjaLog move repeatedly to carve huge chunks of health out of your entire party.



* MemeticMutation: A phrase in the FanTranslation got minor fame on the internet: "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQjZ8SYEgww I bet Arche fucks like a tiger]]."

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* MemeticMutation: MemeticMutation:
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A phrase in the FanTranslation got minor fame on the internet: "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQjZ8SYEgww I bet Arche fucks like a tiger]]."



* ThatOneBoss: The Fen Beast is notorious for being extremely challenging. The only reliable form of damage is fire-based attacks (sans Maxwell), he has an attack that does sizable damage to Cress and moves himself ever closer to your cleric, summoner, and witch, and his ice lance attack, which allows Fen Beast to jump in the air so it's even harder to interrupt him, is essentially a guaranteed instant-kill against [[SuperToughness Cress]]. The only reassuring aspect of the fight is that Fen Beast has only 30K HP.

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* ThatOneBoss: ThatOneBoss:
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The Fen Beast is notorious for being extremely challenging. The only reliable form of damage is fire-based attacks (sans Maxwell), he has an attack that does sizable damage to Cress and moves himself ever closer to your cleric, summoner, and witch, and his ice lance attack, which allows Fen Beast to jump in the air so it's even harder to interrupt him, is essentially a guaranteed instant-kill against [[SuperToughness Cress]]. The only reassuring aspect of the fight is that Fen Beast has only 30K HP.
1st Jan '18 4:57:23 AM rixion
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* MemeticMutation - A phrase in the FanTranslation got minor fame on the internet: "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQjZ8SYEgww I bet Arche fucks like a tiger]]."

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* MemeticMutation - MemeticMutation: A phrase in the FanTranslation got minor fame on the internet: "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQjZ8SYEgww I bet Arche fucks like a tiger]]."



* MisBlamed - the official translation is often bashed for such things as "removing" adult humor that was ''never in'' the original. The only things that were the translations fault, however, was "Kangaroo" instead of "Ragnarok" and some inconsistencies with ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia''.

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* MisBlamed - the MisBlamed: The official translation is often bashed for such things as "removing" adult humor that was ''never in'' the original. The only things that were the translations fault, however, was "Kangaroo" instead of "Ragnarok" and some inconsistencies with ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia''.



* {{Narm}} - ''"What the HECK is THAT!?"''

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* {{Narm}} - {{Narm}}: ''"What the HECK is THAT!?"''



* StoicWoobie - Mint is fully aware that her mother is dead for most of the game, but stays strong regardless.
* TearJerker - This is a Tales game. Expect it. This one's particularly nasty because it slams one in your face within the first 5-10 minutes of the game.

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* StoicWoobie - StoicWoobie: Mint is fully aware that her mother is dead for most of the game, but stays strong regardless.
* TearJerker - TearJerker: This is a Tales game. Expect it. This one's particularly nasty because it slams one in your face within the first 5-10 minutes of the game.



* ThatOneBoss - The Fen Beast is notorious for being extremely challenging. The only reliable form of damage is fire-based attacks (sans Maxwell), he has an attack that does sizable damage to Cress and moves himself ever closer to your cleric, summoner, and witch, and his ice lance attack, which allows Fen Beast to jump in the air so it's even harder to interrupt him, is essentially a guaranteed instant-kill against [[SuperToughness Cress]]. The only reassuring aspect of the fight is that Fen Beast has only 30K HP.

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* ThatOneBoss - ThatOneBoss: The Fen Beast is notorious for being extremely challenging. The only reliable form of damage is fire-based attacks (sans Maxwell), he has an attack that does sizable damage to Cress and moves himself ever closer to your cleric, summoner, and witch, and his ice lance attack, which allows Fen Beast to jump in the air so it's even harder to interrupt him, is essentially a guaranteed instant-kill against [[SuperToughness Cress]]. The only reassuring aspect of the fight is that Fen Beast has only 30K HP.



* WhatAnIdiot - Mankind is finally re-emerging from the Dark Ages, and is re-rediscovering magitechnology. One of the first things they build is the Mana Cannon, a device that is ultimately responsible for thrusting mankind into the dark ages ''twice'' in the past 8,000 years. And failed to accomplish anything useful for anyone the one time it failed to wipe out all civilization.

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* WhatAnIdiot - WhatAnIdiot: Mankind is finally re-emerging from the Dark Ages, and is re-rediscovering magitechnology. One of the first things they build is the Mana Cannon, a device that is ultimately responsible for thrusting mankind into the dark ages ''twice'' in the past 8,000 years. And failed to accomplish anything useful for anyone the one time it failed to wipe out all civilization.
19th Sep '17 6:22:58 AM IrueruPunch
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* BaseBreaker: Rondoline, '''''full stop'''''. Fans are divided whether her [[spoiler:(or rather, Derris Elysion)]] addition to Phantasia's story is necessary or not and whether she essentially rendered one part of ''Katararezaru Rekishi'' moot thanks to [[spoiler:her being Dhaos' MoralityPet instead of the novel's version of Winona]]. Some also don't like her [[{{Fanservice}} fanservice-y design]] which clashes heavily with the original ''Phantasia'' cast, though she doesn't look out of place when she's put alongside Dio and Mel.
5th Aug '17 10:39:42 PM ADrago
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** As a kick to the groin, the current state of this port is LostForever- when Namco pulled the plug on their server, every single copy of the game became a virtual paperweight instantly. That's it, no final version that makes the game playable offline, no compensation of any kind, just something along the lines of "thanks for the cash, and goodbye!" and then poof, everything's lost forever. Those who have forked out money for those items and have yet to complete the game? Yeah, we feel your pain.

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** As a kick to the groin, the current state of this port is LostForever- [[MissingEpisode lost]]- when Namco pulled the plug on their server, every single copy of the game became a virtual paperweight instantly. That's it, no final version that makes the game playable offline, no compensation of any kind, just something along the lines of "thanks for the cash, and goodbye!" and then poof, everything's lost forever.lost. Those who have forked out money for those items and have yet to complete the game? Yeah, we feel your pain.
2nd Aug '17 7:19:27 AM RAMChYLD
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* TearJerker - This is a Tales games. Expect it. This one's particularly nasty because it slams one in your face within the first 5-10 minutes of the game.

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* TearJerker - This is a Tales games.game. Expect it. This one's particularly nasty because it slams one in your face within the first 5-10 minutes of the game.
25th Jul '17 9:28:26 AM RAMChYLD
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** As a kick to the groin, the current state of this port is LostForever- when Namco pulled the plug on their server, every single copy of the game became a paperweight. That's it, no final version that makes the game playable offline, no compensation of any kind, just something along the lines of "thanks for the cash, and goodbye!" and then poof, everything's lost forever. Those who have forked out money for those items and have yet to complete the game? Yeah, we feel your pain.

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** As a kick to the groin, the current state of this port is LostForever- when Namco pulled the plug on their server, every single copy of the game became a paperweight.virtual paperweight instantly. That's it, no final version that makes the game playable offline, no compensation of any kind, just something along the lines of "thanks for the cash, and goodbye!" and then poof, everything's lost forever. Those who have forked out money for those items and have yet to complete the game? Yeah, we feel your pain.
25th Jul '17 9:27:49 AM RAMChYLD
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** As a kick to the groin, the current state of this port is LostForever- when Namco pulled the plug on their server, every single copy of the game became a paperweight. That's it, no final version that makes the game playable offline, no compensation of any kind, just something along the lines of "thanks for the cash, and goodbye!" and then poof, everything's lost forever. Those who have forked out money for those items and have yet to complete the game? Yeah, we feel your pain.
27th May '17 2:45:25 AM tropower
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* BrokenBase: ''The English [=iOS=] port.'' It [[http://kotaku.com/theyve-turned-a-classic-jrpg-into-an-always-online-fr-1510608500 has an always-online requirement]] and an in-game purchase system. On top of that, the opening song is cut, and all the skits are missing as well. On top of that, [[PortingDisaster the controls are also overly sensitive, especially on an iPad.]] Reportedly, playing on an iPhone is more tolerable. This may be the price to pay for it being [[AllegedlyFreeGame free.]]
** AllegedlyFreeGame is definitely right: the difficulty is locked in at somewhere between Hard & [[HarderThanHard Mania]], leveling up takes ''far'' more experience points than it did in the previous versions, enemy encounter rates are lowered (which makes it harder to grind), and there are also reports that save points outside the world map are disabled. If you want to stand even a prayer of a chance beating this game, you're gonna have to fork over the cash for all those helpful items like the Miracle Orb.


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* PortingDisaster: ''The English [=iOS=] port.'' It [[http://kotaku.com/theyve-turned-a-classic-jrpg-into-an-always-online-fr-1510608500 has an always-online requirement]] and an in-game purchase system. On top of that, the opening song is cut, and all the skits are missing as well. On top of that, [[PortingDisaster the controls are also overly sensitive, especially on an iPad.]] Reportedly, playing on an iPhone is more tolerable. This may (or may not) be the price to pay for it being [[AllegedlyFreeGame free.]]
** AllegedlyFreeGame is definitely right: the difficulty is locked in at somewhere between Hard & [[HarderThanHard Mania]], leveling up takes ''far'' more experience points than it did in the previous versions, enemy encounter rates are lowered (which makes it harder to grind), and there are also reports that save points outside the world map are disabled. If you want to stand even a prayer of a chance beating this game, you're gonna have to [[PayToWin fork over the cash for all those helpful items like the Miracle Orb]].
16th May '17 1:29:43 PM Patcher
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** The Magitech Cannon. Aside from [[spoiler:nearly killing the WorldTree,]] it has enough destruction force to cause it's victims to decompose ''instantly'' after they die. Imagine how much getting hit by it must hurt...

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** The Magitech Cannon. Aside from [[spoiler:nearly killing the WorldTree,]] it has enough destruction force to cause it's its victims to decompose ''instantly'' after they die. Imagine how much getting hit by it must hurt...
24th Apr '17 7:06:20 PM nombretomado
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: This game is still playable today but it's shown its age. A lot of the stuff that made this game stand out were later done better by later TalesSeries games or became commonplace. (''VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia'' was called "The game that sings" originally because it had a theme song. This is standard routine for the TalesSeries game; but a lot of other games have theme songs, too.) The Linear Motion battle system was also ''really'' cool and innovative for its time; but compared to the other Linear Motion Battle systems (Especially the 3D and pseudo-3D ones) it is Bare-Bones. Even compared to ''VideoGame/TalesOfEternia'''s LMBS, this game's LMBS can frustrate people with how chuggy it is. Also, this game's major twist was that [[spoiler:Dhaos was just a WellIntentionedExtremist]]. (However; Dhaos is still one of the most memorable TalesSeries Villainous Blondes)

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: This game is still playable today but it's shown its age. A lot of the stuff that made this game stand out were later done better by later TalesSeries VideoGame/TalesSeries games or became commonplace. (''VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia'' was called "The game that sings" originally because it had a theme song. This is standard routine for the TalesSeries VideoGame/TalesSeries game; but a lot of other games have theme songs, too.) The Linear Motion battle system was also ''really'' cool and innovative for its time; but compared to the other Linear Motion Battle systems (Especially the 3D and pseudo-3D ones) it is Bare-Bones. Even compared to ''VideoGame/TalesOfEternia'''s LMBS, this game's LMBS can frustrate people with how chuggy it is. Also, this game's major twist was that [[spoiler:Dhaos was just a WellIntentionedExtremist]]. (However; Dhaos is still one of the most memorable TalesSeries VideoGame/TalesSeries Villainous Blondes)
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