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* MoralEventHorizon: Hikaru Buckak is introduced in a scene which [[FreudianExcuse reveals his unfortunate childhood]]. His father, a former Rocket agent, died during the Great War (during the battle of Saffron City), and his mother lost the will to live regardless of the small child she should be raising. When she died, he was raised among Team Rocket, and over time grew to despise Pokemon, the League, and everything the League stood for. This initially makes him ''somewhat'' sympathetic to the readers despite his allegiance... And then he proceeds to [[spoiler:MindRape Sabrina, getting her to torture and murder her colleagues and loved ones, as well as betray the very City she has sworn herself protector of.]] By the end of the Saffron City Arc, the fact that the League is partially responsible for creating men like him is no longer the point - you've lost most (if not all) sympathy for him and want him to pay dearly for his crimes, because the FreudianExcuse just doesn't cut it anymore. [[spoiler:So far, he is a KarmaHoudini.]]

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* MoralEventHorizon: Hikaru Buckak is introduced in a scene which [[FreudianExcuse reveals his unfortunate childhood]]. His father, a former Rocket agent, died during the Great War (during the battle of Saffron City), and his mother lost the will to live regardless of the small child she should be raising. When she died, he was raised among Team Rocket, and over time grew to despise Pokemon, the League, and everything the League stood for. This initially makes him ''somewhat'' sympathetic to the readers despite his allegiance... And then he proceeds to [[spoiler:MindRape Sabrina, getting her to torture and murder her colleagues and loved ones, as well as betray the very City she has sworn herself protector of.]] By the end of the Saffron City Arc, the fact that the League is partially responsible for creating men like him is no longer the point - you've lost most (if not all) sympathy for him and want him to pay dearly for his crimes, because the FreudianExcuse just [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse doesn't cut it it]] anymore. [[spoiler:So far, he is a KarmaHoudini.]]
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* IKnewIt: Many of reviewers figured out that Elle [[spoiler: is Jessiebell]].
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* RougeAnglesOfSatin: One flaw this story has is the occasional misspelling.
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Names The Same is no longer a trope


** Also Atsushi being a fighting-type trainer from the game was also {{Jossed}} as he's an OriginalCharacter accountant who had the [[NamesTheSame same name and proximity]]

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** Also Atsushi being a fighting-type trainer from the game was also {{Jossed}} as he's an OriginalCharacter accountant who had the [[NamesTheSame same name and proximity]]proximity.

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* RougeAnglesOfSatin: The one flaw this story has is the occassional mispelling.
** YMMV on that claim

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* RougeAnglesOfSatin: The one One flaw this story has is the occassional mispelling.
** YMMV on that claim
occasional misspelling.

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* HolyShitQuotient: Professor Oak fighting Jessie and James in hand-to-hand combat. Using mantis-style kung fu.



** YMMV on that claim

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** YMMV on that claimclaim
* ShockingMoments: Professor Oak fighting Jessie and James in hand-to-hand combat. Using mantis-style kung fu.
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* HolyShitQuotient: Professor Oak fighting Jessie and James in hand-to-hand combat.

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* HolyShitQuotient: Professor Oak fighting Jessie and James in hand-to-hand combat. Using mantis-style kung fu.
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* RougeAnglesOfSatin: The one flaw this story has is the occassional mispelling.

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* RougeAnglesOfSatin: The one flaw this story has is the occassional mispelling.mispelling.
** YMMV on that claim
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* MoralEventHorizon: Hikaru Buckak is introduced in a scene which [[FreudianExcuse reveals his unfortunate childhood]]. His father, a former Rocket agent, died during the Great War (during the battle of Saffron City), and his mother lost the will to live regardless of the small child she should be raising. When she died, he was raised among Team Rocket, and over time grew to despise Pokemon, the League, and everything the League stood for. This initially makes him ''somewhat'' sympathetic to the readers despite his allegiance... And then he proceeds to [[spoiler:MindRape Sabrina, getting her to torture and murder her colleagues and loved ones, as well as betray the very City she has sworn herself protector of.]] By the end of the Saffron City Arc, the fact that the League is partially responsible for creating men like him is no longer the point - you've lost most (if not all) sympathy for him and want him to pay dearly for his crimes, because the FreudianExcuse just doesn't cut it anymore. [[spoiler:So far, he is a KarmaHoudini.]]

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* MoralEventHorizon: Hikaru Buckak is introduced in a scene which [[FreudianExcuse reveals his unfortunate childhood]]. His father, a former Rocket agent, died during the Great War (during the battle of Saffron City), and his mother lost the will to live regardless of the small child she should be raising. When she died, he was raised among Team Rocket, and over time grew to despise Pokemon, the League, and everything the League stood for. This initially makes him ''somewhat'' sympathetic to the readers despite his allegiance... And then he proceeds to [[spoiler:MindRape Sabrina, getting her to torture and murder her colleagues and loved ones, as well as betray the very City she has sworn herself protector of.]] By the end of the Saffron City Arc, the fact that the League is partially responsible for creating men like him is no longer the point - you've lost most (if not all) sympathy for him and want him to pay dearly for his crimes, because the FreudianExcuse just doesn't cut it anymore. [[spoiler:So far, he is a KarmaHoudini.]]]]
* RougeAnglesOfSatin: The one flaw this story has is the occassional mispelling.

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* FridgeHorror: Tommy's Kanghaskhan mother, World-Burning Mother has no mention of having a Kanghaskhan child and notably keeps Tommy in her pouch. In many stories of real-life InterspeciesAdoption, animal mothers take in orphans when their young offspring die.[[spoiler: The Safari Zone Rangers know who Tommy is and put in a ton of effort to hide him from his biological parents and to groom Tommy. So its not a stretch for them to have killed World-Burning Mother's child so she would take in Tommy.]]



* IKnewIt: Many of reviewer figured out that Elle [[spoiler: is Jessiebell]].

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* IKnewIt: Many of reviewer reviewers figured out that Elle [[spoiler: is Jessiebell]].
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* IKnewIt: Many of reviewer figured out that Elle [[spoiler: is Jessiebell]].
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Not YMMV anymore. Moving.


* MoralEventHorizon: Hikaru Buckak is introduced in a scene which [[FreudianExcuse reveals his unfortunate childhood]]. His father, a former Rocket agent, died during the Great War (during the battle of Saffron City), and his mother lost the will to live regardless of the small child she should be raising. When she died, he was raised among Team Rocket, and over time grew to despise Pokemon, the League, and everything the League stood for. This initially makes him ''somewhat'' sympathetic to the readers despite his allegiance... And then he proceeds to [[spoiler:MindRape Sabrina, getting her to torture and murder her colleagues and loved ones, as well as betray the very City she has sworn herself protector of.]] By the end of the Saffron City Arc, the fact that the League is partially responsible for creating men like him is no longer the point - you've lost most (if not all) sympathy for him and want him to pay dearly for his crimes, because the FreudianExcuse just doesn't cut it anymore. [[spoiler:So far, he is a KarmaHoudini.]]
* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: Jessie and James. The only reason they're villains is because thanks to [[spoiler:the psychological breaking they underwent]], they (quite literally) have a reversed perception of what the words "good" and "evil" mean.
** [[spoiler:Sabrina]] too, but now she is just the BrokenBird.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Hikaru Buckak is introduced in a scene which [[FreudianExcuse reveals his unfortunate childhood]]. His father, a former Rocket agent, died during the Great War (during the battle of Saffron City), and his mother lost the will to live regardless of the small child she should be raising. When she died, he was raised among Team Rocket, and over time grew to despise Pokemon, the League, and everything the League stood for. This initially makes him ''somewhat'' sympathetic to the readers despite his allegiance... And then he proceeds to [[spoiler:MindRape Sabrina, getting her to torture and murder her colleagues and loved ones, as well as betray the very City she has sworn herself protector of.]] By the end of the Saffron City Arc, the fact that the League is partially responsible for creating men like him is no longer the point - you've lost most (if not all) sympathy for him and want him to pay dearly for his crimes, because the FreudianExcuse just doesn't cut it anymore. [[spoiler:So far, he is a KarmaHoudini.]]
* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: Jessie and James. The only reason they're villains is because thanks to [[spoiler:the psychological breaking they underwent]], they (quite literally) have a reversed perception of what the words "good" and "evil" mean.
** [[spoiler:Sabrina]] too, but now she is just the BrokenBird.
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* {{Jossed}}: The theory that Bulbasaur had a previous trainer in Orre was {{Jossed}} by Constructive[==]Writer, who noted in an author's note that Bulbasaur did not had a previous trainer. Bulbasaur has merely spent a large amount of time there and has had to deal with the kinds of people who live there.
** Also Atsushi being a fighting-type trainer from the game was also {{Jossed}} as he's an OriginalCharacter accountant who had the [[NamesTheSame same name and proximity]]

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* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: Jessie and James.
** Sabrina too, but now she is just the BrokenBird

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* MoralEventHorizon: Hikaru Buckak is introduced in a scene which [[FreudianExcuse reveals his unfortunate childhood]]. His father, a former Rocket agent, died during the Great War (during the battle of Saffron City), and his mother lost the will to live regardless of the small child she should be raising. When she died, he was raised among Team Rocket, and over time grew to despise Pokemon, the League, and everything the League stood for. This initially makes him ''somewhat'' sympathetic to the readers despite his allegiance... And then he proceeds to [[spoiler:MindRape Sabrina, getting her to torture and murder her colleagues and loved ones, as well as betray the very City she has sworn herself protector of.]] By the end of the Saffron City Arc, the fact that the League is partially responsible for creating men like him is no longer the point - you've lost most (if not all) sympathy for him and want him to pay dearly for his crimes, because the FreudianExcuse just doesn't cut it anymore. [[spoiler:So far, he is a KarmaHoudini.]]
* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: Jessie and James.
James. The only reason they're villains is because thanks to [[spoiler:the psychological breaking they underwent]], they (quite literally) have a reversed perception of what the words "good" and "evil" mean.
** Sabrina [[spoiler:Sabrina]] too, but now she is just the BrokenBirdBrokenBird.
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* HolyShitQuotient: Professor Oak fighting Jessie and James in hand-to-hand combat.



** Sabrina too, but now she is just the BrokenBird

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** Sabrina too, but now she is just the BrokenBird
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* AngstWhatAngst: Mostly in Ash's case - he has his moments, but otherwise is quite good at controlling his emotions. Many other characters ''do'' have emotional baggage as well, and they're not quite as good at keeping it in check as he is - especially [[spoiler:Sabrina]].

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* AngstWhatAngst: Mostly in Ash's case - he has his moments, but otherwise is quite good at controlling his emotions. Many other characters ''do'' have emotional baggage as well, and they're not quite as good at keeping it in check as he is - especially [[spoiler:Sabrina]].[[spoiler:Sabrina]].
*WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: Jessie and James.
**Sabrina too, but now she is just the BrokenBird
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* AngstWhatAngst

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* AngstWhatAngstAngstWhatAngst: Mostly in Ash's case - he has his moments, but otherwise is quite good at controlling his emotions. Many other characters ''do'' have emotional baggage as well, and they're not quite as good at keeping it in check as he is - especially [[spoiler:Sabrina]].
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