History YMMV / SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet

10th Jan '18 2:58:57 PM RaustBD
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: All over the place. Toby, for one. As the role is vocally demanding, adults are often cast in the part, which makes for the question of whether Toby is a kid or a mentally disabled man. For that note, the motives of the Beadle are ambiguous, whether he's a psychopath who's as bad as the judge or just a police officer who sincerely believes the judge is a good man. Then there's the matter of whether Anthony is a romantic hero who saves Johanna from the Judge or if he's a creepy stalker (though he's ''definitely'' a major step-up from Judge Turpin).

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: All over the place. Toby, for one. As the role is vocally demanding, adults are often cast in the part, which makes for the question of whether Toby is a kid or a mentally disabled man. For that note, the motives of the Beadle are ambiguous, whether he's a psychopath who's as bad as the judge or just a police officer who sincerely believes the judge is a good man. Then there's the matter of whether Anthony is a romantic hero who saves Johanna from the Judge or if he's a creepy stalker (though he's ''definitely'' (albeit a major ''major'' step-up from Judge Turpin).
11th Dec '17 1:33:18 PM Anddrix
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* LoveItOrHateIt: Critics, general audiences, and Sondheim, who was heavily consulted, himself love the film, but [[VocalMinority some serious fans of the stage show]] despise it. The main reason for the divide comes down to the performances, with fans of the film loving the actors in it, and haters of the film disliking the treatment of Sondheim's score, and the rather reserved performances not fitting with the main concept of Sweeney Todd as a melodrama.
16th Oct '17 1:22:05 AM Hippopotaschat
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* DemotedToExtra: Johanna in the 2007 film version. One of the nine principal characters in the original play with a decent amount of stage and song time, Johanna is reduced to a nearly silent role in the film version and barely does ANYTHING outside of singing "Green Finch and Linnet Bird". Her other major songs and solos (Kiss Me, Kiss Me/Ladies in Their Sensitivities (Quartet), City on Fire, Ah Miss (reprise)) are cut, her portion of the "Johanna" Quartet is removed entirely, she doesn't shoot Fogg in the asylum, and much of her dialogue is trimmed. In the film, she acts purely as a personality-less macguffin and a living motivation for Anthony to do anything.
** Not as bad as Johanna, but the Beggar Woman also has a much smaller role in the film. Again, this is due to the cutting of most of her singing material (specifically No Place Like London, City on Fire, and The Beggar Woman's Lullaby), the overall trimming of her scenes (her interaction with Anthony during Ah Miss cuts her "Hey, hoy, sailor boy!" line), and now she doesn't interact with Sweeney at all until [[spoiler:her death scene.]] This renders the overall twist and ending much less effective than in the original play.


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* DemotedToExtra: Johanna in the 2007 film version. One of the nine principal characters in the original play with a decent amount of stage and song time, Johanna is reduced to a nearly silent role in the film version and barely does ANYTHING outside of singing "Green Finch and Linnet Bird". Her other major songs and solos (Kiss Me, Kiss Me/Ladies in Their Sensitivities (Quartet), City on Fire, Ah Miss (reprise)) are cut, her portion of the "Johanna" Quartet is removed entirely, she doesn't shoot Fogg in the asylum, and much of her dialogue is trimmed. In the film, she acts purely as a personality-less macguffin and a living motivation for Anthony to do anything.
** Not as bad as Johanna, but the Beggar Woman also has a much smaller role in the film. Again, this is due to the cutting of most of her singing material (specifically No Place Like London, City on Fire, and The Beggar Woman's Lullaby), the overall trimming of her scenes (her interaction with Anthony during Ah Miss cuts her "Hey, hoy, sailor boy!" line), and now she doesn't interact with Sweeney at all until [[spoiler:her death scene.]] This renders the overall twist and ending much less effective than in the original play.
16th Oct '17 1:14:40 AM Hippopotaschat
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* DemotedToExtra: Johanna in the 2007 film version. One of the nine principal characters in the original play with a decent amount of stage and song time, Johanna is reduced to a nearly silent role in the film version and barely does ANYTHING outside of singing "Green Finch and Linnet Bird". Her other major songs and solos (Kiss Me, Kiss Me/Ladies in Their Sensitivities (Quartet), City on Fire, Ah Miss (reprise)) are cut, her portion of the "Johanna" Quartet is removed entirely, she doesn't shoot Fogg in the asylum, and much of her dialogue is trimmed. In the film, she acts purely as a personality-less macguffin and a living motivation for Anthony to do anything.
**Not as bad as Johanna, but the Beggar Woman also has a much smaller role in the film. Again, this is due to the cutting of most of her singing material (specifically No Place Like London, City on Fire, and The Beggar Woman's Lullaby), the overall trimming of her scenes (her interaction with Anthony during Ah Miss cuts her "Hey, hoy, sailor boy!" line), and now she doesn't interact with Sweeney at all until [[spoiler:her death scene.]] This renders the overall twist and ending much less effective than in the original play.
16th Oct '17 12:25:26 AM Hippopotaschat
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* LoveItOrHateIt: Critics, general audiences, and Sondheim, who was heavily consulted, himself love the film, but [[VocalMinority some serious fans of the stage show]] despise it. The main reason for the divide comes down to the performances, with fans of the film loving the actors in it, and haters feeling they're butchering Sondheim's score.

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* LoveItOrHateIt: Critics, general audiences, and Sondheim, who was heavily consulted, himself love the film, but [[VocalMinority some serious fans of the stage show]] despise it. The main reason for the divide comes down to the performances, with fans of the film loving the actors in it, and haters feeling they're butchering of the film disliking the treatment of Sondheim's score.score, and the rather reserved performances not fitting with the main concept of Sweeney Todd as a melodrama.
16th Oct '17 12:20:10 AM Hippopotaschat
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** "It's only occasionally reinstated..". That's actually not true at all. While the song was cut from the original Broadway and London productions, and the film version, most modern productions choose to put the song back in as it adds so much to Turpin as a character. The song has been reinstated in the concert versions, the Spanish productions, the 2005 Broadway revival, the 2012 London revival, the 2017 Off-Broadway production, most regional theatre productions, and many more.
16th Oct '17 12:11:43 AM Hippopotaschat
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** Judge Turpin, of all people, gets one depending on whether his song [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMA3fa-yO-k "Johanna"]] removed or not (that being said, it is so often removed [[NauseaFuel for]] [[{{Squick}} a]] [[BrainBleach good]] [[TooSpicyForYogSothoth reason]]). This song shows that he actually tried to resist the temptation Johanna was causing and even seems to imply that she was his MoralityPet. "Johanna, Johanna, I treasured you in innocence and loved you like a daughter".

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** Judge Turpin, of all people, gets one depending on whether his song [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMA3fa-yO-k "Johanna"]] removed or not (that being said, it is so often removed [[NauseaFuel for]] [[{{Squick}} a]] [[BrainBleach good]] [[TooSpicyForYogSothoth reason]]).not. This song shows that he actually tried to resist the temptation Johanna was causing and even seems to imply that she was his MoralityPet. "Johanna, Johanna, I treasured you in innocence and loved you like a daughter".
15th Jul '17 3:39:48 PM ClintEastwood
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* EnsembleDarkHorse: Helena Bonham Carter as Mrs. Lovett, Alan Rickman as Judge Turpin and Timothy Spall as the Beadle all by virtue of giving better performances than Johnny Depp as Sweeney Todd.

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* EnsembleDarkHorse: Helena Bonham Carter EnsembleDarkhorse: Creator/HelenaBonhamCarter as Mrs. Lovett, Alan Rickman Creator/AlanRickman as Judge Turpin and Timothy Spall Creator/TimothySpall as the Beadle all by virtue of giving better performances than Johnny Depp Creator/JohnnyDepp as Sweeney Todd.
28th Apr '17 8:32:46 AM NobodysSavior
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*** Depending on the performance, it can also come off as though he's rationalizing what he wants to do.
20th Apr '17 10:07:25 AM Anddrix
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* MostAnnoyingSound / HellIsThatNoise: The terrifyingly loud, shrill sound of the factory whistle.

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* MostAnnoyingSound / HellIsThatNoise: MostAnnoyingSound: The terrifyingly loud, shrill sound of the factory whistle.
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