History YMMV / SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet

23rd Jun '16 12:56:37 PM Ebrbfureh
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** The scene with Toby in the evil basement, when the poor kid finally learns what's in the pies -- and then has to watch as the just-murdered Beadle Bamford gets dumped right down into the basement with him. And then Mrs. Lovett and Sweeney come down into the sewer looking for him because they want to murder him too.

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** The scene with Toby in the evil basement, when the poor kid finally learns what's in the pies -- and then has to watch as the just-murdered Beadle Bamford gets dumped right down into the basement with him. And then Mrs. Lovett and Sweeney come down into the sewer looking for him because they want to murder him too.
23rd Jun '16 12:53:47 PM Ebrbfureh
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** Also, the casting of Sweeney Todd himself varies from actor to actor - George Hearn's Todd is [[BoisterousBruiser powerfully built, with a boisterous,]] pitch-black sense of humor. [[LaughingMad His cackles]] after his HeroicBSOD (Or VillainousBreakdown / [[VillainousBSOD BSOD]] in this case) song end up matching Mrs. Lovett's StepfordSmiler evil. JohnnyDepp's Todd is a waif of a man. He's a quiet, haunted misanthrope ''before'' he snaps, and a barely-functional sociopath after, having to be led around and prodded into action by [[TheDarkChick Dark]] GenkiGirl Mrs. Lovett.
** Johanna sometimes portrayed as insane from the beginning of the show. Actually, the libretto, especially "Kiss me", implies her to be at least paranoid and unstable. Also, she is the one who [[spoiler: shoots Fogg]]. Could repeat that again - [[HiddenDepths a demure young noble lady of late XVIII-early XIX century who never left her house and most probably never lifted anything heavier than a needle, never saw any blood and gore and couldn't see even a picture of a pistol]] [[spoiler: shoots Fogg]]. She probably takes more after her father than anybody realizes.

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** Also, the casting of Sweeney Todd himself varies from actor to actor - George Hearn's Todd is [[BoisterousBruiser powerfully built, with a boisterous,]] pitch-black sense of humor. [[LaughingMad His cackles]] after his HeroicBSOD (Or VillainousBreakdown / [[VillainousBSOD BSOD]] in this case) song end up matching Mrs. Lovett's StepfordSmiler evil. JohnnyDepp's Todd is a waif of a man. He's a quiet, haunted misanthrope ''before'' he snaps, and a barely-functional sociopath after, having to be led around and prodded into action by [[TheDarkChick Dark]] GenkiGirl Mrs. Lovett.
** Johanna sometimes portrayed as insane from the beginning of the show. Actually, the libretto, especially "Kiss me", implies her to be at least paranoid and unstable. Also, she is the one who [[spoiler: shoots Fogg]]. Could repeat that again - [[HiddenDepths a demure young noble lady of late XVIII-early XIX century who never left her house and most probably never lifted anything heavier than a needle, never saw any blood and gore and couldn't see even a picture of a pistol]] [[spoiler: shoots Fogg]]. She probably takes more after her father than anybody realizes.



** When Sweeney finds out Lovett lied to him, he takes her off her guard by dancing with her - and throws her into the furnace. Unlike the stage play, we can see exactly what happens as she screams and thrashes while she burns up. The last shot of her shows [[NauseaFuel a shrieking, thrashing black]] ''[[NauseaFuel thing]]'', with her face reduced to TheBlank by the [[FacialHorror sheer amount of damage]] it's taken.

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** When Sweeney finds out Lovett lied to him, he takes her off her guard by dancing with her - and throws her into the furnace. Unlike the stage play, we can see exactly what happens as she screams and thrashes while she burns up. The last shot of her shows [[NauseaFuel a shrieking, thrashing black]] ''[[NauseaFuel thing]]'', with her face reduced to TheBlank by the [[FacialHorror sheer amount of damage]] it's taken.
23rd May '16 9:14:03 AM travisbob
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*** Arguably the worst is Pirelli's. The [[HellIsThatNoise pained gurgling noises]] really sell it.


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** Less severe than other examples (because he's shown to be completely fine a couple scenes later,) but the Beadle's absolutely '''brutal''' beating towards poor Antony is pretty hard to watch. Especially because Antony is one of the only genuinely kind and sympathetic characters in the film.
30th Apr '16 6:38:05 PM Tarlonniel
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: At the very end of the 2001 concert version, George Hearn and Patti LuPone come out on stage last for their bows. George gives Patti a huge hug, takes a small bow, and steps back, gesturing for Patti to take her bow. Patti keeps clapping for George, gives him a look and, though you can't hear her, her lip movements clearly read, "Take another bow, George. Take another bow." The amount of respect and appreciation that she has for him is the sweetest thing.
17th Apr '16 5:49:20 PM Thorion
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* EnsembleDarkHorse: Helena Bonham Carter as Mrs. Lovett, Alan Rickman as Judge Turpin and Timothy Spall as the Beadle all by virtue of giving better performances than Johnny Depp as Sweeney Todd.
28th Mar '16 7:40:25 PM kataangluvr
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** [[spoiler:Sweenet Todd's reaction in general to him accidentally killing his wife. Imagine if you were in his position. You killed the person you love the most and you had no idea it was them the whole time. Some versions have him look so anguished as he stands over her corpse. Some also have him cradle her body before Toby slashes his throat.]]

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** [[spoiler:Sweenet [[spoiler:Sweeney Todd's reaction in general to him accidentally killing his wife. Imagine if you were in his position. You killed the person you love the most and you had no idea it was them the whole time. Some versions have him look so anguished as he stands over her corpse. Some also have him cradle her body before Toby slashes his throat.]]
28th Mar '16 7:40:02 PM kataangluvr
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** [[spoiler:Sweenet Todd's reaction in general to him accidentally killing his wife. Imagine if you were in his position. You killed the person you love the most and you had no idea it was them the whole time. Some versions have him look so anguished as he stands over her corpse. Some also have him cradle her body before Toby slashes his throat.]]
15th Feb '16 4:32:47 AM Shadowgazer
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15th Feb '16 3:48:46 AM Shadowgazer
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* DeliberateValuesDissonance: The judge's sentencing of a young boy to hanging, though he is a four-time offender. The musical obviously wants to criticise [[MoralEventHorizon atrocities committed]] in the name of the law that were acceptable back then, as children were treated the same way as adults. This is noticeably shortened to one previous offense in the film to make it ''even worse''.



* FairForItsDay: The Judge's sentencing of a young boy to hanging, though he is a four-time offender. This is noticeably shortened to one previous offense in the film.



* MagnificentBastard: Sweeney, himself.

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* MagnificentBastard: Sweeney, himself.himself if you consider that apart from his general wit, he smartly tricked both Bamford and Judge Turpin to come to his barbershop.
22nd Nov '15 4:00:32 PM nombretomado
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* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct (and sing!): SachaBaronCohen plays Pirelli.

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* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct (and sing!): SachaBaronCohen Creator/SachaBaronCohen plays Pirelli.
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