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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Some viewers like how Music Meister is portrayed due to his OneSceneWonder moment; '''others''', especially [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold Music Meister]] fans, are either disappointed or pissed about his highly unfaithful adaption. I.e., instead of been able to hypnotise people through song, this version places the target, upon [[HypnoticEyes meeting his eyes]], into a dream state where they find themselves in the world of a musical. You don't even realize he's supposed to ''be'' an incarnation of the Music Meister until well into the ''Flash'' crossover episode this leads into. However, he ''does'' end up being a fun villain who triggers a MusicalEpisode with his powers.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Some viewers like how Music Meister is portrayed due to his OneSceneWonder moment; '''others''', especially [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold Music Meister]] fans, are either disappointed or pissed about his highly unfaithful adaption. I.e., instead of been being able to hypnotise people through song, this version places the target, upon [[HypnoticEyes meeting his eyes]], into a dream state where they find themselves in the world of a musical. You don't even realize he's supposed to ''be'' an incarnation of the Music Meister until well into the ''Flash'' crossover episode this leads into. However, he ''does'' end up being a fun villain who triggers a MusicalEpisode with his powers.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Mon-El's earlier claim that he was saved by the Prince of Daxam becomes this when the real flashback reveals that his bodyguard basically abandoned and killed people in order to protect Mon-El and get him off Daxam safely.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Mon-El's earlier claim that he was saved by the Prince of Daxam becomes this when the real flashback reveals that his bodyguard basically abandoned and killed people in people--specifically, ''a relative of Kara's''--in order to protect Mon-El and get him off Daxam safely.

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The Flash's musical episode "Duet" was not that well-received


* BaseBreakingCharacter: Some viewers like how Music Meister is portrayed due to his OneSceneWonder moment; '''others''', especially [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold Music Meister]] fans, are either disappointed or pissed about his highly unfaithful adaption. I.e., instead of been able to hypnotise people through song, this version places the target, upon [[HypnoticEyes meeting his eyes]], into a dream state where they find themselves in the world of a musical. You don't even realize he's supposed to ''be'' an incarnation of the Music Meister until well into the ''Flash'' crossover episode this leads into. However, he ''does'' end up being a fun villain who triggers a MusicalEpisode with his powers, and that episode is quite well-liked.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Some viewers like how Music Meister is portrayed due to his OneSceneWonder moment; '''others''', especially [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold Music Meister]] fans, are either disappointed or pissed about his highly unfaithful adaption. I.e., instead of been able to hypnotise people through song, this version places the target, upon [[HypnoticEyes meeting his eyes]], into a dream state where they find themselves in the world of a musical. You don't even realize he's supposed to ''be'' an incarnation of the Music Meister until well into the ''Flash'' crossover episode this leads into. However, he ''does'' end up being a fun villain who triggers a MusicalEpisode with his powers, and that episode is quite well-liked.powers.



* MoralEventHorizon:
** Mon-El's bodyguard not only dragged Mon-El away from his bedmate without considering her safety, he also abandoned several people to their fate and cold-bloodedly murdered a fleeing Kryptonian in order for Mon-El to use the Kryptonian's shuttle.
** On the other hand, the guard did his job--keeping Mon-El safe at any cost, which also includes his own life. While shooting an unarmed Kryptonian (and an ambassador to boot) was a little much, he couldn't have risked the guy having some hidden means to override ship controls.
** Lar Gand and Rhea proudly admit to enslaving people, although they [[BlackmailIsSuchAnUglyWord find several other euphemisms for it]].

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Did Kara really do what Rhea asked of her and tell Mon-El to go back home to take a second chance with his people? Or, what she so heartbroken and disgusted by his lie that she said all of that to get him away from her? The scene where she officially ends things with him may add to the latter; she just couldn't forgive him for what he did. The follow-up ''The Flash'' episode confirms it's the latter.
* BaseBreakingCharacter: Some viewers like how Music Meister is portrayed due to his OneSceneWonder moment, '''others''', especially [[BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold Music Meister]] fans, are either disappointed or pissed about his highly unfaithful adaption i.e. Instead of been able to hypnotise people through song, this version places the target, upon [[HypnoticEyes meeting his eyes]], into a dream state where they find themselves in the world of a musical. You don't even realize he's supposed to ''be'' an incarnation of the Music Meister until well into the ''Flash'' crossover episode this leads into. However, he ''does'' end up being a fun villain who triggers a MusicalEpisode with his powers, and that episode is quite well-liked.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Did Kara really do what Rhea asked of her and tell Mon-El to go back home to take a second chance with his people? Or, what she so heartbroken and disgusted by his lie that she said all of that to get him away from her? The scene where she officially ends things with him may add to the latter; she just couldn't forgive him for what he did. The follow-up ''The Flash'' ''[[Series/TheFlash2014 Flash]]'' episode confirms it's the latter.
* BaseBreakingCharacter: Some viewers like how Music Meister is portrayed due to his OneSceneWonder moment, moment; '''others''', especially [[BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold Music Meister]] fans, are either disappointed or pissed about his highly unfaithful adaption i.adaption. I.e. Instead , instead of been able to hypnotise people through song, this version places the target, upon [[HypnoticEyes meeting his eyes]], into a dream state where they find themselves in the world of a musical. You don't even realize he's supposed to ''be'' an incarnation of the Music Meister until well into the ''Flash'' crossover episode this leads into. However, he ''does'' end up being a fun villain who triggers a MusicalEpisode with his powers, and that episode is quite well-liked.



* MoralEventHorizon: Mon-El's bodyguard not only dragged Mon-El away from his bedmate without considering her safety, he also abandoned several people to their fate and cold-bloodedly murdered a fleeing Kryptonian in order for Mon-El to use the Kryptonian's shuttle.
** On the other hand, the guard did his job - keeping Mon-El safe at any cost, which also includes his own life. While shooting an unarmed Kryptonian (and an ambassador to boot) was a little too much, he couldn't have risked the guy having some hidden means to override ship controls.

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* MoralEventHorizon: MoralEventHorizon:
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Mon-El's bodyguard not only dragged Mon-El away from his bedmate without considering her safety, he also abandoned several people to their fate and cold-bloodedly murdered a fleeing Kryptonian in order for Mon-El to use the Kryptonian's shuttle.
** On the other hand, the guard did his job - keeping job--keeping Mon-El safe at any cost, which also includes his own life. While shooting an unarmed Kryptonian (and an ambassador to boot) was a little too much, he couldn't have risked the guy having some hidden means to override ship controls.

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** On the other hand, the guard did his job - keeping Mon-El safe at any cost, which also includes his own life. While shooting an unarmed Kryptonian (and an ambassador to boot) was a little too much, he couldn't have risked the guy having some hidden means to override ship controls.



** On the other hand, the guard did his job - keeping Mon-El safe at any cost, which also includes his own life. While shooting an unarmed Kryptonian (and an ambassador to boot) was a little too much, he couldn't have risked the guy having some hidden means to override ship controls.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Some viewers like how Music Meister is portrayed due to his OneSceneWonder moment, '''others''', especially [[BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold Music Meister]] fans, are either disappointed or pissed about his highly unfaithful adaption i.e. Instead of been able to hypnotise people through song, he now just has [[HypnoticEyes Hypno Eyes]] that put people into a coma where they sing in a dream

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Some viewers like how Music Meister is portrayed due to his OneSceneWonder moment, '''others''', especially [[BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold Music Meister]] fans, are either disappointed or pissed about his highly unfaithful adaption i.e. Instead of been able to hypnotise people through song, he now just has this version places the target, upon [[HypnoticEyes Hypno Eyes]] that put people meeting his eyes]], into a coma dream state where they sing find themselves in the world of a dreammusical. You don't even realize he's supposed to ''be'' an incarnation of the Music Meister until well into the ''Flash'' crossover episode this leads into. However, he ''does'' end up being a fun villain who triggers a MusicalEpisode with his powers, and that episode is quite well-liked.



* UnintentionallySympathetic: Mon-El becomes this, especially after meeting his parents. While it's obvious that he lied to Kara about his identity for months, he seems really ashamed about his past and his heritage. Also, he comes from a world that celebrates slavery! It's understandable that he wouldn't want people to know about that. It doesn't help that Kara basically blames him for the entire Daxam culture of partying and oppression, and acts like being a prince is something you can choose and that it gives you total control over your parents' policies and decisions.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Mon-El becomes this, especially after meeting his parents. While it's obvious that he lied to Kara about his identity for months, he seems really ashamed about his past and his heritage. Also, he comes from a world that celebrates slavery! It's understandable that he wouldn't want people to know about that. It doesn't help that Kara basically blames him for the entire Daxam culture of partying and oppression, and acts like being a prince is something you can choose and that it gives you total control over your parents' policies and decisions. The way she treats him over hiding the fact (and ''why'' he hid it becomes ''obvious'') seems pretty well over-the-top; she's shown less rage toward people who were attempting mass murder.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Mon-El becomes this, especially after meeting his parents. While it's obvious that he lied to Kara about his identity for months, he seems really ashamed about his past and his heritage. Also, he comes from a world that celebrates slavery! It's understandable that he wouldn't want people to know about that. It doesn't help that Kara basically blames him for the entire Daxam culture of partying and oppression.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Mon-El becomes this, especially after meeting his parents. While it's obvious that he lied to Kara about his identity for months, he seems really ashamed about his past and his heritage. Also, he comes from a world that celebrates slavery! It's understandable that he wouldn't want people to know about that. It doesn't help that Kara basically blames him for the entire Daxam culture of partying and oppression.oppression, and acts like being a prince is something you can choose and that it gives you total control over your parents' policies and decisions.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Mon-El's bodyguard not only dragged Mon-El away from his bedmate without considering her safety, he also abandoned several people to their fate and cold-bloodedly murdered a fleeing Kryptonian in order for Mon-El to use.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Mon-El's bodyguard not only dragged Mon-El away from his bedmate without considering her safety, he also abandoned several people to their fate and cold-bloodedly murdered a fleeing Kryptonian in order for Mon-El to use.use the Kryptonian's shuttle.
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** On the other hand, the guard did his job - keeping Mon-El safe at any cost, which also includes his own life. While shooting an unarmed Kryptonian (and an ambassador to boot) was a little too much, he couldn't have risked the guy having some hidden means to override ship controls.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Did Kara really do what Rhea asked of her and tell Mon-El to go back home to take a second chance with his people? Or, what she so heartbroken and disgusted by his lie that she said all of that to get him away from her? The scene where she officially ends things with him may add to the latter; she just couldn't forgive him for what he did.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Did Kara really do what Rhea asked of her and tell Mon-El to go back home to take a second chance with his people? Or, what she so heartbroken and disgusted by his lie that she said all of that to get him away from her? The scene where she officially ends things with him may add to the latter; she just couldn't forgive him for what he did. The follow-up ''The Flash'' episode confirms it's the latter.
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** Lar Gand and Rhea proudly admit to enslaving people.
* OneSceneWonder: Music Meister. He comes at the end of the episode, yet he manages to do the following: brag about getting himself arrested on purpose, take down Supergirl without even touching her, free himself, and escape using Cisco's device to Earth-One, all so that he could do the same thing to Barry Allen.

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** Lar Gand and Rhea proudly admit to enslaving people.
people, although they [[BlackmailIsSuchAnUglyWord find several other euphemisms for it]].
* OneSceneWonder: Music Meister. He comes at the end of the episode, yet he manages to do the following: brag about getting himself arrested on purpose, take down Supergirl without even touching her, free himself, and escape using Cisco's device to Earth-One, Earth-1, all so that he could do the same thing to Barry Allen.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Some viewers like how Music Meister is portrayed due to his OneSceneWonder moment, '''others''', especially [[BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold Music Meister]], fans are either disappointed or pissed about his highly unfaithful adaption i.e. Instead of been able to hypnotise people through song, he now just has [[HypnoticEyes Hypno Eyes]] that put people into a coma where they sing in a dream

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Some viewers like how Music Meister is portrayed due to his OneSceneWonder moment, '''others''', especially [[BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold Music Meister]], fans Meister]] fans, are either disappointed or pissed about his highly unfaithful adaption i.e. Instead of been able to hypnotise people through song, he now just has [[HypnoticEyes Hypno Eyes]] that put people into a coma where they sing in a dream
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Some viewers like how Music Meister is portrayed due to his OneSceneWonder moment, others, especially [[BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold Music Meister]] fans are either disappointed or pissed about his highly unfaithful adaption i.e. Instead of been able to hypnotise people through song, he now just has [[HypnoticEyes Hypno Eyes]] that put people into a coma where they sing in a dream

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Some viewers like how Music Meister is portrayed due to his OneSceneWonder moment, others, '''others''', especially [[BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold Music Meister]] Meister]], fans are either disappointed or pissed about his highly unfaithful adaption i.e. Instead of been able to hypnotise people through song, he now just has [[HypnoticEyes Hypno Eyes]] that put people into a coma where they sing in a dream
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Some viewers like how Music Meister is portrayed due to his OneSceneWonder moment, others, especially [[BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold Music Meister]] fans are either disappointed or pissed about his highly unfaithful adaption i.e. Instead of been able to hypnotise people through song, he now just has [[HypnoticEyes Hypno Eyes]] that put people into a coma where they sing in a dream
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* OneSceneWonder: Music Meister. He comes at the end of the episode, yet he manages to do the following: brag about getting himself arrested on purpose, take down Supergirl without even touching her, free himself, and escape using Cisco's device to Earth-One, all so that he could do the same thing to Barry Allen.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Mon-El becomes this, especially after meeting his parents. While it's obvious that he lied to Kara about his identity for months, he seems really ashamed about his past and his heritage. Also, he comes from a world that celebrates slavery! It's understandable that he wouldn't want people to know about that.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Mon-El's bodyguard not only dragged Mon-El away from his bedmate without considering her safety, he also abandoned several people to their fate and cold-bloodedly murdered a fleeing Kryptonian in order for Mon-El to use.
** Lar Gand and Rhea proudly admit to enslaving people.
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Mon-El becomes this, especially after meeting his parents. While it's obvious that he lied to Kara about his identity for months, he seems really ashamed about his past and his heritage. Also, he comes from a world that celebrates slavery! It's understandable that he wouldn't want people to know about that. It doesn't help that Kara basically blames him for the entire Daxam culture of partying and oppression.
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* CaptainObviousReveal: Mon-El being the prince of Daxam was one of the most popular theory in Season 2. In fact, it was openly revealed in the episode promo two weeks earlier, with the crew clearly having given up on anyone being surprised.

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* CaptainObviousReveal: Mon-El being the prince of Daxam was one of the most popular theory theories in Season 2. In fact, it was openly revealed in the episode promo two weeks earlier, with the crew clearly having given up on anyone being surprised.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Did Kara really do what Rhea asked of her and tell Mon-El to go back home to take a second chance with his people? Or, what she so heartbroken and disgusted by his lie that she said all of that to get him away from her? The scene where she officially ends things with him may add to the latter; she just couldn't forgive him for what he did.
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* CaptainObviousReveal: Mon-El being the prince of Daxam was one of the most popular theory in Season 2. In fact, it was openly revealed in the episode promo two weeks earlier, with the crew clearly having given up on anyone being surprised.

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* CaptainObviousReveal: Mon-El being the prince of Daxam was one of the most popular theory in Season 2. In fact, it was openly revealed in the episode promo two weeks earlier, with the crew clearly having given up on anyone being surprised.surprised.
* HarsherInHindsight: Mon-El's earlier claim that he was saved by the Prince of Daxam becomes this when the real flashback reveals that his bodyguard basically abandoned and killed people in order to protect Mon-El and get him off Daxam safely.
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Mon-El becomes this, especially after meeting his parents. While it's obvious that he lied to Kara about his identity for months, he seems really ashamed about his past and his heritage. Also, he comes from a world that celebrates slavery! It's understandable that he wouldn't want people to know about that.

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* CaptainObviousReveal: Mon-El being the prince of Daxam was one of the most popular theory in Season 2.

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* CaptainObviousReveal: Mon-El being the prince of Daxam was one of the most popular theory in Season 2. In fact, it was openly revealed in the episode promo two weeks earlier, with the crew clearly having given up on anyone being surprised.
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Misuse.


* BaseBreakingCharacter: This show didn't even need a full minute to piss off [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold Music Meister]] fans.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: This show didn't even need a full minute to piss off [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold Music Meister]] fans.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: This show didn't even need a full minute to piss off [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold Music Meister]] fans.fans.
* CaptainObviousReveal: Mon-El being the prince of Daxam was one of the most popular theory in Season 2.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: This show didn't even need a full minute to piss of [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold Music Meister]] fans.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: This show didn't even need a full minute to piss of off [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold Music Meister]] fans.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: But this show didn't even need a full minute to piss of [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold Music Meister]] fans.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: But this This show didn't even need a full minute to piss of [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold Music Meister]] fans.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Doubles as a BerserkButton, but this show didn't even need a full minute to piss of [[BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold Music Meister]] fans

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Doubles as a BerserkButton, but BaseBreakingCharacter: But this show didn't even need a full minute to piss of [[BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold Music Meister]] fansfans.
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TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Doubles as a BerserkButton, but this show didn't even need a full minute to piss of [[BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold Music Meister]] fans

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Doubles as a BerserkButton, but this show didn't even need a full minute to piss of [[BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold Music Meister]] fans
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TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Doubles as a BerserkButton, but this show didn't even need a full minute to piss of MusicMeister fans

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TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Doubles as a BerserkButton, but this show didn't even need a full minute to piss of MusicMeister [[BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold Music Meister]] fans
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TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Doubles as a BerserkButton, but this show didn't even need a full minute to piss of MusicMeister fans

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